View Full Version : 'Confirmed kill' case: Full acquittal
Moledet
11-15-2005, 09:50 AM
Southern Command military court acquitted Tuesday of all charges an IDF captain who was accused of violating army rules by shooting at the body of 13-year-old Palestinian girl he feared was sent by terrorists
Ronen Greenberg
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3169693,00.html
Finaly the court has done its job right.
ed316
11-15-2005, 09:52 AM
No win at all for anyone. Girls dead and his military career is ruin.
Moledet
11-15-2005, 10:52 AM
No win at all for anyone. Girls dead and his military career is ruin.
Since he is innocent he will return to the IDF at least until the end of his contract.
Lerclair
11-16-2005, 03:59 AM
What are you guys talking about... I don't care what's going on there. But you have to at least be compassionate.
Read the transcript.
The transcript
The following is a recording of a three-way conversation that took place between a soldier in a watchtower, an army operations room and Capt R, who shot the girl
From the watchtower "It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward." "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?" "A girl about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death." "I think that one of the positions took her out." "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."
From the operations room "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?"
Watchtower "A girl about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death."
A few minutes later, Iman is shot from one of the army posts
Watchtower "I think that one of the positions took her out."
Captain R "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."
Capt R then "clarifies" why he killed Iman
"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."
At no point did the Israeli troops come under attack.
The prosecution case was damaged when a soldier who initially said he had seen Capt R point his weapon at the girl's body and open fire later told the court he had fabricated the story.
Capt R claimed that he had not fired the shots at the girl but near her. However, Dr Mohammed al-Hams, who inspected the child's body at Rafah hospital, counted numerous wounds. "She has at least 17 bullets in several parts of the body, all along the chest, hands, arms, legs," he told the Guardian shortly afterwards. "The bullets were large and shot from a close distance. The most serious injuries were to her head. She had three bullets in the head. One bullet was shot from the right side of the face beside the ear. It had a big impact on the whole face."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1643573,00.html
Regards,
SeanAshi
11-16-2005, 05:25 AM
I rarely question the tactics the IDF use, but stuff like this needs to stop.
BarkingSquirrel
11-16-2005, 05:53 AM
Stuff like suicide bombings of checkpoints/pizza shops/diners needs to stop.
Around and around we go, where we stop nobody knows.
Of course the children would never be suicide bombers would they now
Moledet
11-16-2005, 08:46 AM
I rarely question the tactics the IDF use, but stuff like this needs to stop.
The Guardian's transcript was taken from an Israeli TV show, it was very biased and was heavily criticised. The judges watched the full tapes with no editing and heard the soldier's testimonies.
Unfortunately, the girl passed through a closed military zone and since Palestinians use children to determine the path they should pick to attack an outpost and the girl was carrying a large bag they decided that she is a threat.
Secret Squirrel
11-16-2005, 07:19 PM
how many bullets does it take to kill a 13-year-old Palestinian girl from up close?
sir-chimp
11-16-2005, 10:11 PM
I don't know which is saddest.
The results of the accidental identification of a child as a terrorist threat and her loss of life due to it.
or
The fact the Palestinians gave the Israelis reason to suspect their children as potential terrorist threats.
BarkingSquirrel
11-17-2005, 02:19 AM
how many bullets does it take to kill a 13-year-old Palestinian girl from up close?
Let's find out. One, two, three.
*crunch*
Three.
Argyll
11-17-2005, 04:28 AM
Poor taste !!!
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