Veterans Banned from D-Day Tributes !!!!

[Kilgor]

Exclusive By Rupert Hamer


BRITISH war veterans are to be banned from this year's Normandy D-Day landings 60th anniversary tribute - because the French claim they could damage the beaches.

Elderly ex-soldiers have been told numbers are going to be limited because of "health and safety issues", including possible harm to the environment and problems with disabled access and public toilets. The snub has enraged up to 3,000 veterans preparing to make the emotional trip to the beaches where they fought the Germans to help liberate France in 1944.

Tory home security spokesman Patrick Mercer, a former army colonel, said: "It's a good job that the French didn't restrict which beaches our men could go on in 1944 because if they had then the French would still be under Nazi rule." Mr Mercer, whose father fought in World War II, added: "If our boys had been worried about such things as health and safety during D-Day, then France would never have been liberated. Some recognition of this from the French would be nice."

Veterans have been further angered by the insistence that they are only allowed access to the beaches if they wear security passes and photo ID cards. Survivors without a badge will be denied entry to events, the beaches they liberated and even a British march-past due to be attended by the Queen.

Now officials from the Ministry of Defence have begun their own war of words in a desperate attempt to get the French to change their minds.

Last night a senior MoD insider said: "The French have gone too far and this will be made clear to them. Many veterans are becoming distressed. To be treated like this on the very beaches they liberated is insulting."

Veterans from across Britain have spent months preparing for the emotional pilgrimage to the beaches. Because of their age, for many the trip to Northern France could be the last time they stand on the former battlefields to remember fallen comrades.

They will find out this week how the French have limited numbers and how many places are available.

The event is also dogged by fears of a possible terrorist strike, as the commemorations will be attended by Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

The source said: "The French are asking for frail and elderly veterans to sort out individual security passes for themselves - that is enough to put off old soldiers in their droves.

"And the number allowed at some events and areas of the beaches is going to be restricted for what the French describe as health and safety reasons.

"The feeling in the MoD is that what is being asked of these men by the French is too much and they should be shown a great deal more respect."

Last night an MoD spokesman said there would be discussions with the French to address the issue of security passes and other restrictions. The talks will will take place in the city of Caen - which was bombed flat by the British as they advanced in 1944.

Joe Sibun, 84, who landed on Gold Beach in Normandy on D-Day, said: "I think it is just a case of somebody sitting in an office in France who has decided to be bloody awkward.

"I do not see any good reason for this kind of red tape."


:-*$

:(

[Maverick77]

**** the french

[Falco]

:cantbeli: that's pretty rude.

[radon]

WTF. Somebody deserves a beating. :bash:

[martinexsquaddie]

****ing stuck up racist scum bags ugly rude pretentious
mollusc murdering
whose last miltary victory was against greenpeace and they could'nt even get away from that we out getting caught
not really human
smell of wee
now that rude :lol:

[Javehn]

They fought against greenpeace ?? Wasn't aware of that historical part ... Who won ??

[Vance]

Sad...

[Uncle Sam]

Never, ever, ever disrespect a WWII combat veteran...Ever ! Especially ones that liberated your f'n country ! :bash:

[BlackRain]

Why are you folks so suprised?

Some French are all to willing to damage Allied war graves.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39038000/jpg/_39038351_cemeteryafp203story.jpg


Slogans reading "Death to Yankees" and "Rosbeefs (Brits) go home" were painted on the central memorial in Etaples, near the Channel port of Boulogne in northern France.

The slogans also called for UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush to be sent to the international criminal court in The Hague.

"Saddam Hussein will win and spill your blood", one slogan read.

Another claimed the graves were "contaminating" French soil.


Isn't the next logical step for the French government is to denigrate the surviving war heros?

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2907701.stm

[Gringo]

What a bunch of wankers!
If they're so concerned of their enviroment then why don't they stop using Nuclear power to generate 75% of their power.

[Gringo]

Why are you folks so suprised?

Some French are all to willing to damage Allied war graves.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39038000/jpg/_39038351_cemeteryafp203story.jpg


Slogans reading "Death to Yankees" and "Rosbeefs (Brits) go home" were painted on the central memorial in Etaples, near the Channel port of Boulogne in northern France.

The slogans also called for UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W Bush to be sent to the international criminal court in The Hague.

"Saddam Hussein will win and spill your blood", one slogan read.

Another claimed the graves were "contaminating" French soil.


Isn't the next logical step for the French government is to denigrate the surviving war heros?

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2907701.stm

They must be very stupid, they've got the swastika the wrong way round. :oops:

[California Joe]

It's cause they're used to seeing it in their rear view mirrors. ;)

[BlackRain]

Was the French Vandalism of Allied War Dead an Isolated Incident?

Unfortunately not. It happened again in December 2003.

The graves of 10 British soldiers killed during World War I were vandalised last weekend in a military cemetery near this northern French town, police said.

Their tombstones were broken or pulled out of the ground and some were stolen, police said.

The site, the Hibers Trench cemetery, is managed by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission and holds the remains of 133 British and three Canadians soldiers, most of them killed during a German offensive in the area in April 1917.

Police said they had taken shoe prints from near the desecrated graves and were looking for the perpertrators.

http://totallysweetpixels.com/patriotic/images/bd_eiffel_tower.jpg

[Shake n Bake]

They fought against greenpeace ?? Wasn't aware of that historical part ... Who won ??



Greenpeace's "Rainbow Warrior" was blown up in new Zealand by the french for protesting French nuclear testing off of Moruroa.


The french saboteurs were captured by Auckland police but later released after the French government hit New Zealand with an embargo crippling thier economy...



and the French have the gall to call us bullies rofl rofl

[BlackRain]

Third Incident: French Ghouls Attack War Graves

Vandals have kicked over 45 headstones at a military cemetery in France for British soldiers, confirms the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.

Two headstones were completely destroyed at the Saint Aubert Cemetery, near the northern town of Cambrai, the First World War I burial site of 435 soldiers, most of them British.


Workers are currently repairing the damage.


The headstones are believed to have been kicked over on Sunday evening, but police are still investigating, according to Peter Francis, spokesman for the War Graves Commission.

[Herrmannek]

assholes

[Falco]

They have no respect.

[Merik]

Like I've said time and time again, F*@& THE FRENCH!

[martinexsquaddie]

favorite story I heard about the french.
they'd invited a load of napolonic renactors over. and there was a parade and while it was all smiles for those traitors wearing french uniforms.
the poor old redcoats were getting more and more abuse then the bottles started :(
at this point the "officer " leading the redcoats ordered bayonets fixed and the french hooligans took to there heels :lol:
can't even fight pretend soldiers

[Operation Ivy]

It's cause they're used to seeing it in their rear view mirrors. ;)

ahahahahaha rofl rofl couldnt stop laughing at that

Hmm there inviting the Germans who took them over to come,but not letting the Brits who helped liberate there country come..that makes sense :roll:

[cut]

Wow,you guys really know how to stir up racist hatred. But I still think Hitler was much better at it, so by all means keep trying.

[Shake n Bake]

French is a race??



Oh thats right...FROG

[steel bonnet]

Well alas l`m not surprised :( :cantbeli:

With a COWARDLY history that the French have. Of course they don`t know HOW to so respect to BRAVE,COURAGOUS SOLDIERS. They haven`t had any for far too long.

As for there FFL,well they were only in Blighty SPYING on us ALLIEDS,to report back to there MASTERS the THIRD REICH. :-*$

France is a provence of Germany,they just keep forgetting that till there told.....lol

Ja
Steel Bonnet

[Yard Ape]

They have no respect.
Clearly they acting out their frustration from not speaking German.

[Operation Ivy]

Im sure most of you know when im angry i draw pictures, heres my pic for the French (no offense to Germans, dont mind you guys :D )

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/Dumb_French1.jpg

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/Dumb_French2.jpg

[Javehn]

You are so talanted , Ivy !

[Operation Ivy]

I only draw the truth ;)

[Yard Ape]

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/Dumb_French2.jpg
Even the Poles found room in thier hearts to save the French when thier own country was over run. The fought beside the Canadians from Normady to VE Day.

[obd]

Dont worry guys. Pretty soon France will be an Islamic Republic anyway and all those cheese eating surrender monkeys will be trying to move to your country. Just dont let 'em in. Im sure communist North Korea would love to have them but I think the koreans require people to work more than 6 months out of the year and I dont think the French would like that very much. Also the Koreans tend to convert efficiency into more porduction (at least by French standards) instead of converting it into more vacation time (which the French are absolute masters of) which would also anger the French..........

I gotta say, the French sure do know how to live it up.... They lay down in bed with dictators and Hitlerians, then when nations and peoples brave enough to take the bastards on come along, the French cry foul with "national sovereignty" and "its all about oil". Well, yea it is all about oil and money: Saddams cheap oil to France and his weapons payments. I wonder how many Iraqi's were killed by French weapons and French funded weapons over the last 10 years??? More than were killed by American and coalition weapons during the first UN sanctioned war or the US invasion: probably not but at least those deaths meant something more than a few bucks in a cheese eating wine swilling Frenchmans wallet so he could send agents to kill Taiwanese protesting the sale of overpriced French warships when there were superior US ones available for an equal price!!!!! Again even the French investigated that one, mostly after about 9 agents ended up dead after "falling from thier balcony railings" by accident (all of whom were involved in the Taiwanese naval scandals).

Kinda makes you wonder why the one thing the French government has been kinda quite on over the last decade was the embargo which was killing a great number of Iraqi's. Go figure when the French were involved in illegal arms and oil sales. Even the French did an investigation on French high tech missiles which had not been exported and were manufactered in France just before the war started being found in Iraqi weapons caches.

[Dennis G]

It's cause they're used to seeing it in their rear view mirrors. ;)

rofl

[BlackRain]

Wow,you guys really know how to stir up racist hatred. But I still think Hitler was much better at it, so by all means keep trying.

Is Racist hatred linking to articles about French vandalizing war graves?

Or did you mean French Racial Hatred?


Marshal Philippe Pétain's collaborationist Vichy government, in alliance with the Nazis, deported between 61,000 and 80,000 French citizen Jews to the extermination camps.

The first anti-Jewish legislation introduced by the Vichy government had been proposed by the French, not demanded by the Germans.

The Vichy government and its many supporters were responsible for a "National Revolution" which was intended to reassert a traditional vision of France which questioned or even rejected the participation of Jews as equal citizens.

[Jack Mehoff]

Wow,you guys really know how to stir up racist hatred. But I still think Hitler was much better at it, so by all means keep trying.
*scratch my balls*

French is a race?

[MARINO]

How we say here in Spain la proxima vez que les libere su madre.
The next time is their mother who will liberate them.
Silly french, i've been living during 3 years in France, and they think that they are the tops, and they don't know what victory means.
During Napoleonic wars when they were in Spain they profanated churchs, they stole in all spanish houses.
At the end spanish people exploded.
http://www.auburn.edu/forlang/Spanish/buck/index/civ/images/2mgrsm.jpg
http://www.xtec.es/~fchorda/18web/img/jpg/goya07.jpg

And frenchies do this:
http://www.cyberspain.com/passion/jpgs/mayo2.jpg
And the end they obviously lose. Is a tradition

[Shake n Bake]

Guys, Guys.. hold your fire untill the french get here otherwise it looks like one big circle jerk

[obd]

yeah the French are really good at putting the "race label" on things that dont really qualify as race: A good example would be qaulifying the Jewish religion as a "race" and then collaboratting with the Nazi's to wipe them off the face of ther earth. OF course there was this one French town that worked realy hardot save "thier Jews" and so I guess the Frensh really didnt mistreat the Jews, seeing as how that one town did a good thing and stood up for what was right and moral......... rofl

[M1A2U2]

I wonder if the french members have anything to say. Didn't think so theyre already running fomr theyre computers.

"French Tanks have 4 gears. 3 to go backwards and one to go forwards incase the enemy is coming from behind."

[cut]

Wow,you guys really know how to stir up racist hatred. But I still think Hitler was much better at it, so by all means keep trying.
*scratch my balls*

French is a race?

arabs are a race and these people are blaming them..


I can't fight you all off so there's not point in defending the french no matter how good the challenge.

but this **** is a bit out of order, I was just attempting to show the similarity between the perception of Jews before WWII and your perception of the french now.

[Jack Mehoff]

but this **** is a bit out of order, I was just attempting to show the similarity between the perception of Jews before WWII and your perception of the french now.


WTF are you talking about? When was the last time i said anything about Jews is a RACE? Do you get into the habit of making thing up to cover your ignorance?

[cut]

but this **** is a bit out of order, I was just attempting to show the similarity between the perception of Jews before WWII and your perception of the french now.


WTF are you talking about? When was the last time i said anything about Jews is a RACE?



Dont worry guys. Pretty soon France will be an Islamic Republic anyway and all those cheese eating surrender monkeys will be trying to move to your country.

f*** the french

http://totallysweetpixels.com/patriotic/images/bd_eiffel_tower.jpg

RACIST and and I mean in the looser meaning, in terms of nationality.

If you think that the regular guy in france would do all you accuse them off then you ( not jack personally btw) are racist. [/quote]

[Operation Ivy]

Miles where are you, tell us whats goin on :|

[usa320]

This is gross. I used to give the french the benefit of the doubt- just say they are ignorant to the threat posed by terrorism and rogue nations, and ignorant to the deeds we for them decades back. But now i can say bluntly, that the french are arrogant, rude, disrespectful and we should treat them the same.

It hurts me to know that my grandfather put his life on the line to help save these people, and many of his comrades didnt make it home, only for them to come back and disrespect him and the men that served with him 60 years later.

[Rantanplan]

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Rantanplan/Tour.jpg

woot woot woot

[Tengu]

hehe nice pic :lol:

But anyway i can't believe this **** man. There are no words to discribe it.

[Schwabo Elite]

Ouch!
Also I am quite fond of modern France, I agree that sometimes they have quite a skill for fu**ing up totally. I mean nature saving and all the eco stuff is great, but it's a bad axcuse for not honoring your friends, especially because the number of veterans should be more this year, by nature... That's giving your savior the boot.
rofl

I liked ivy's drawings. Could be cartoon in the old Simplicissimus...
Pretty funny stuff. :)

SE

[Vance]

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Rantanplan/Tour.jpg

woot woot woot
To be more historically accurate...

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/nazitower.JPG

[Rantanplan]

@Vance


They must be very stupid, they've got the swastika the wrong way round. :oops:

rofl

[cut]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2001/07/10/fawlty.jpg

Don't mention the WAR!

[usa320]

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/nazitower.JPG

It be nice if we could experiment- go back in time. NOT act against the Nazis. Let them murder and rape france. Then fastforward time 50 years, and bring back a french guy friom the 40's i think he would be downright embarrassed over how poorly his modern countrymen hold the people that liberated their nation.

[Vance]

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/eiffel.jpg


http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/hitler-eiffel-tower.jpg

[AFG]

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/nazitower.JPG

It be nice if we could experiment- go back in time. NOT act against the Nazis. Let them murder and rape france. Then fastforward time 50 years, and bring back a french guy friom the 40's i think he would be downright embarrassed over how poorly his modern countrymen hold the people that liberated their nation.


uh no. Hitler needed to be stopped. There would be no Jews left in Europe if we let that happened.

edit: hmm wouldnt russia be enough though to stop the Nazis? /edit

the french are at it again...

[Rantanplan]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2001/07/10/fawlty.jpg

Don't mention the WAR!

Ah! Se war!!! Ha ha ha, Heinri... Cut, I have the wrong Thread here you silly old leg-before-vicket English person.

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Rantanplan/Hilter.jpg

[Uncle Sam]

oh how soon we forget the past..............

[AFG]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2001/07/10/fawlty.jpg

Don't mention the WAR!

Ah! Se war!!! Ha ha ha, Heinri... Cut, I have the wrong Thread here you silly old leg-before-vicket English person.

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Rantanplan/Hilter.jpg


LOL thats a funny episode, especially the interviews

[cut]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2001/07/10/fawlty.jpg

Don't mention the WAR!

Ah! Se war!!! Ha ha ha, Heinri... Cut, I have the wrong Thread here you silly old leg-before-vicket English person.

http://img1.photobucket.com/albums/v40/Rantanplan/Hilter.jpg

HOOOOWWWZZZZAAATT?? wrong thread?

http://www.crickitalia.org/ASA/Giac/images/howzat2.gif

[Rantanplan]

http://www.crickitalia.org/ASA/Giac/images/howzat2.gif

Damn, rugby is soooo ghey!!! p-)

[cut]

Speaking of which we have the six nations soon with all the big countries in westerb europe except Germany (and Spain and all the others) but you see my point?

[Haiw]

Should I point all you guys talking about 'French history' to some old thread about some dog? ;)

Anyway, I'm amazed by this too. Don't understand why the French would do such a thing to the Brittish vets. I suppose someone's gonna lose his job.

[cut]

and I was getting so close to killing this thread

[Rantanplan]

Six nations? Pah! Who cares? As long we'll kick some english buts in portugal this year ;)

[cut]

are we playing you? well if you get far enough, when was the last time we played? the 1st september 2001?

[Rantanplan]

Hey, only tournaments count :D


Btw: 26.06.1996 p-)

[cut]

the last time we played surely is the best indicator rather almost 10 years ago.

[Rantanplan]

Not in germany. We play ****ty in qualifications and friendly games to confuse the enemy :lol:

[cut]

we havn't got it worked out yet we do it the other way round as a double bluff, doesn't work though

[Rantanplan]

It seems the limeys are to cunning for football.

[Miles Teg]

Miles where are you, tell us whats goin on

:(

Nothing.

I've heard nothing about this.

This can't be true. Despite some extremist you will never see a french be so rude with veterans.

I live in Rouen. Very close of Caen and Dieppe. Everywhere we see is rebuilded city cause of the war, it's impossible for us to forget.

How can you believe that the "French" have total disrespect for the men giving their life for liberty !!

We have our problems with our population of muslim and jews living here. Reporting the hatred of the Palestinian conflict in France.

Don't give substance to the rare extremist who are doing this :
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39038000/jpg/_39038351_cemeteryafp203story.jpg


I'm very sad to see that a lot of you are flooding here with hate.


Exclusive By Rupert Hamer
Who is he?


Tory home security spokesman Patrick Mercer, a former army colonel, said: "It's a good job that the French didn't restrict which beaches our men could go on in 1944 because if they had then the French would still be under Nazi rule." Mr Mercer, whose father fought in World War II, added: "If our boys had been worried about such things as health and safety during D-Day, then France would never have been liberated. Some recognition of this from the French would be nice."
It's impossible! That can't be an objective article from a journalist. It's not information, just flame war.

This can be only "Food for trolls" that you are. Agree with this, since how many time you are waiting for an occasion like this?

And believe me when I say that your behavior is feeding the hate of the french against you.

Take some seconds to use your brain before jumping on easy french bashing.

[Vance]

We never said we hated all of the French, only the ones who were guilty of those crimes...

[Miles Teg]

We never said we hated all of the French, only the ones who were guilty of those crimes...

ok, but can you understand that the reaction of everybody make my blood boiling?

But the worst is i think that the article source is a real piece of ****.

Cheer up men !

[Rantanplan]

Hey! Don't try to hijack this thread!We are talking here about football pal! ;)

[BlackRain]

...

[Miles Teg]

I try again


Tory home security spokesman Patrick Mercer, a former army colonel, said: "It's a good job that the French didn't restrict which beaches our men could go on in 1944 because if they had then the French would still be under Nazi rule." Mr Mercer, whose father fought in World War II, added: "If our boys had been worried about such things as health and safety during D-Day, then France would never have been liberated. Some recognition of this from the French would be nice."

This is not fact, just bashing.

But everybody know that the mirror is a reference. Yeah, take a look on the other main titles :

JORDAN GETS BOOTED OUT OF THE JUNGLE

RUDDOCK'S JUST A DRUNKEN LOVE CHEAT

BLAIR IN PUSH FOR BUSH SECOND TERM
PM to make controversial visit to Washington to boost President Bush's campaign for second term...

I SCORED WITH ZOE TO JOIN MILE HIGH CLUB
Becks-style soccer hero gets naked with superbitch Tanya in Footballers Wives' wildest-ever scene...

Neat...

[Miles Teg]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk//upl/mirror/feb2004/4/6/000BCF2C-427D-1027-9A6F80BFB6FA0000.jpg

No comment.

[Miles Teg]

That remember me when I saw this during my lunch :
http://www.greatestjeneration.com/chiracworm.jpg

I was in england when it's happend. That make me pleased and make laugh all my english pal who know that was a toilet paper.

[Aegirsson]

Tout ce qui a été écrit est:

Pitoyable, affligeant, déplorable, minable, misérable, calamiteux, lamentable, piteux, navrant, médiocre, faible, insignifiant, honteux, dégoutant et finalement triste.

Les types qui ont écrit ces conneries, même si c'est pour troller, ne se placent pas plus haut que les extremistes ayant écrit sur les monuments commémoratifs ces choses abjects.

[cut]

It seems the limeys are to cunning for football.

since when does the bosch call us limeys ;)

[Miles Teg]

I will try to make this intervention usefull for our english speakers mate:


Everything wrote here is :
Pitiful, saddening, deplorable, pathetic, seedy, calamitous, appalling, piteous, disturbing, poor, weak, unimportant, ashamed, disgusting and finally sad.

The men which wrote these stupidity, even if it is for troller, do not place themselves higher than the extremists having written on the memorials these things contemptible.

[stephane from Paris]

Nice put Miles Teg!
Everybody in France knows the so famous UK WC press!!!!!!! And Royal family knows it very very well too!!! Every 2 months this press put some french bashing specially before sports "friendly" games.
So many stupid people here!

I could add for those who hates leftish and socials aids (...), who hates the non ultra-patriots americans and more, that Vichy government was formed by people who were in a very close way of thinking!!!!
The only differences is that ultraright parties in Europe at this time hated jews!
Bush gand liked them since neo con count lots of jews and since jews lobbies support him!
Strangely in France most of jews were from centre left party (3 of the 4 future candidates of the socialist party are Jews)!!! during the last 20years they explains us every times that muslims imigrants are a chance not a menace! Now they open their eyes but it's too late! They so much said that french who are affraid by massive muslims immigration are stupid or facists that now it's time to smile!

For the spannish guy: what country was under muslims laws several century when France's won againts them!?
For those who speak about terrorism: Who was the country where Bomb explosed in subway in the 80's and 90's????? Who was the country who fight against islamists terrorists when terrorists speaks in London , when CIA helped Islamists in Afghanistan? Who is the country who is a close friend to Saudi the country who send money to extremists in Europe or Pakistan?

Pauvres baltringues!

[Rantanplan]

We germans have also some nice experiences with the english press rofl


"Achtung, surrender Krauts!", "Watch out Krauts!", "Let's Blitz Fritz"

[Saranof]

This is f****ing pathetic :| Because a countrys governmet dos things /that according to some of the residents of that country, are incorrect) everyone starts a flamewar. It's just stupid. Look at it in a couple of years and you'll see.

[Kaos]

can you give some links, please, kilgor?
never seen those news in the French newspapers.
Blackrain!!!!
Oh nice to see you here!!!!
Seems to me that there is only one kind of thread which are worth your posts!!!

[Schwabo Elite]

I still remember Paul Gascoign on the front of Sun/Mirror (dunno which one) with a helmet. Titled: "Let's show the German,s who won the war!"

rofl :backhand:

Must have been around 1996.

SE

[martinexsquaddie]

somebody strike that flag down and put up so proper colours
to words to the germans SORE and LOSERS rofl

[Roger Rabbit]

Two world wars and one world cup doo dah doo dah

[Rantanplan]

Germany:

Word Cups 3, Finalist 4

Euro Cups 3, Finalist 2

--------------------------------------

England:

World Cups 1, Finalist 0

Euro Cups 0, Finalist 0


Hey, isn't england the home of football??? :D

[Roger Rabbit]

erm no thats cricket, no wait damn Australians. Its erm Rugby, yes Rugby :lol:

[Miles Teg]

Sorry to steal again this football thread.

[raid]

How wonderfull. Just quote a frickin tabloid (which accidentaly belongs to Rupert Murdock, THE top french basher), and let all the hatred flow... And then the same people are going to whine about how french and european in general like to bash the US :roll:

For those who still care, here's how the BBC presents the facts (oh wait, maybe that doesn't count, since sunday mirror is Waaaaaaaay more unbiased than the BBC :slap: )


Veterans may need D-Day passes
War veterans wishing to mark the 60th anniversary of D-Day in France this year have been told they may need passes because of security concerns.
Thousands of ex-servicemen and women are expected to attend the event to mark the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings in June 1944.

But the authorities in France have said veterans without correct identification will not be allowed to take part.

A meeting is due to be held next week to discuss the issue.

Tim Lerwill, of the British Embassy, said many people would be disappointed if the perceived threat of terrorism prevented them attending what is to be the final D-Day commemoration.

He said: "I think it's a great shame.

"I think that the upswell of interest has perhaps caught a lot of people on the hop on both sides of the Channel.

"There are a lot of people who may well not have been to the 50th anniversary who suddenly realise this is to be the last official commemoration of the event and wish to be there."

D-Day veteran Reg Hill, from Birchington, near Margate in Kent, is one of those who hopes to travel to France in June.

'Dragging their feet'

He said the British government was not doing enough to help its veterans meet the requirements for photo identification.

He said: "The French government have put thousands of pounds into it but our government are still dragging their feet.

"They couldn't care less as long as we got rid of Hitler when we did."

Allied forces, many of whom sailed from Kent and Sussex, landed on the Normandy coast before liberating France from German occupation during World War II.

Several heads of state, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair, German Chancellor Gerhard Shroeder and US President George Bush, have been invited to the ceremonies in June.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/3456115.stm


incidentally, the only people getting criticized here are the ones from the UK government...

[Miles Teg]

A lot of noise for nothing.

American habits...?

[BlackRain]

Lottery to fund 'Heroes Return'

A Lottery-funded scheme will help to pay for Second World War veterans to visit the battlefields where they served.

The 'Heroes Return' scheme will allow UK veterans to commemorate the battles they fought and the comrades they lost 60 years ago by travelling to areas including Europe, North Africa and the Far East.

The New Opportunities Fund and the Confederation of British Service and Ex-Service Organisations announced the funding programme at the Cabinet War Rooms in London today.

Lottery funding will also be available for spouses and carers to accompany veterans on their trips, which can be made at any time this year or in 2005. War widows and widowers will also qualify for funding.

The money will help veterans to record their experiences on the visits so that younger generations can learn from them.

Launching the scheme today, Lottery Minister Estelle Morris said:

"We all owe the men and women who fought in World War II a great deal. I am very pleased that money has been made available by the New Opportunities Fund to make it possible for them to once again pay their respects to their former colleagues."

Heroes Return is the centrepiece of the New Opportunities Fund's Veterans Reunited programme, through which National Lottery money is enabling veterans and young people to mark the courage and sacrifice of Britain's wartime generation. The programme will involve those who served at home and overseas, and ensure that new generations can learn from their experiences.

The government announced last June that veterans and their spouses wishing to travel to France for the D-Day landings anniversary will receive free passports.

Source: http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page5352.asp

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How wonderfull. Just quote a frickin tabloid (which accidentaly belongs to Rupert Murdock, THE top french basher), and let all the hatred flow... And then the same people are going to whine about how french and european in general like to bash the US :roll:

For those who still care, here's how the BBC presents the facts (oh wait, maybe that doesn't count, since sunday mirror is Waaaaaaaay more unbiased than the BBC :slap: )


Veterans may need D-Day passes
War veterans wishing to mark the 60th anniversary of D-Day in France this year have been told they may need passes because of security concerns.
Thousands of ex-servicemen and women are expected to attend the event to mark the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings in June 1944.

But the authorities in France have said veterans without correct identification will not be allowed to take part.

A meeting is due to be held next week to discuss the issue.

Tim Lerwill, of the British Embassy, said many people would be disappointed if the perceived threat of terrorism prevented them attending what is to be the final D-Day commemoration.

He said: "I think it's a great shame.

"I think that the upswell of interest has perhaps caught a lot of people on the hop on both sides of the Channel.

"There are a lot of people who may well not have been to the 50th anniversary who suddenly realise this is to be the last official commemoration of the event and wish to be there."

D-Day veteran Reg Hill, from Birchington, near Margate in Kent, is one of those who hopes to travel to France in June.

'Dragging their feet'

He said the British government was not doing enough to help its veterans meet the requirements for photo identification.

He said: "The French government have put thousands of pounds into it but our government are still dragging their feet.

"They couldn't care less as long as we got rid of Hitler when we did."

Allied forces, many of whom sailed from Kent and Sussex, landed on the Normandy coast before liberating France from German occupation during World War II.

Several heads of state, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair, German Chancellor Gerhard Shroeder and US President George Bush, have been invited to the ceremonies in June.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/3456115.stm


incidentally, the only people getting criticized here are the ones from the UK government...

raid don't get caught up in this for the wrong reasons. Kicking the BBC when it's don't does fvck all to do with this issue. I hope for you're sake you are an gullible brit rather than an american claiming to know more about british media then we do. Comparing the mirror and the BBC is just bollocks. I happen to think that the french government is being completely stupid and I can't begin to understand why, however those who are just using this to bash France are just being ****heads.

[raid]

American habits...?
don't say that buddy. Most of our american brothers know how to think for themselves, just like most of french people.
This just sounds like another easy witch hunt led by a vocal minority feeded by biased toilet paper tabloids...

About the graves, if you look at the first post about that event from last year, you'll see that I was, and still am, totally disgusted by that thing. Same goes for the facts reported this time, although I got to admit that's the first time I hear about them. But don't judge a whole nation on the basis of two or three people's act. And don't blame the govt for that. Disagree all the way with their stance on Iraq case, that's just fine. But don't mix up political things with isolated crimes (nevertheless, I'd still love to see the bastards who did this die in pain)

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American habits...?
don't say that buddy. Most of our american brothers know how to think for themselves, just like most of french people.
This just sounds like another easy witch hunt led by a vocal minority feeded by biased toilet paper tabloids...
but isn't that exactly what seemingly everyone else is doing to the French on this site?



About the graves, if you look at the first post about that event from last year, you'll see that I was, and still am, totally disgusted by that thing. Same goes for the facts reported this time, although I got to admit that's the first time I hear about them. But don't judge a whole nation on the basis of two or three people's act. And don't blame the govt for that. Disagree all the way with their stance on Iraq case, that's just fine. But don't mix up political things with isolated crimes (nevertheless, I'd still love to see the bastards who did this die in pain)

Hit the nail on the head there well said.

[raid]

but isn't that exactly what seemingly everyone else is doing to the French on this site?

Nhaa, I don't think so. That's why I used the term vocal minority. The jokes/insults/bashing always come from the same people.
I think most of the forum users have learned to wait a bit before making flaming statements, and know at least to separate truth from fiction.
They just won't make a statement here, because it's pretty much useless (who said food for trolls?).

That being said, I'd be the first to be pretty upset if half of what was said in the Mirror was true, but somehow, I have a hard time believing that piece of crap. My grandfather fought the nazis, was arrested and deported to germany, and managed to escape from there all the way back to paris under a train, so if he was still among us nowadays, I'd be really mad if he couldn't attend the commemorations.

[Kaos]

Yes, the flamers are the same every time. Saying exactly the same things, over the same threads, with the same sentences, the same words, with their short knowledge of life and history coming from the same sources. Quite funny to talk to them in the beginning, but in the beginning only...
But as you says, (thanks God!!!) they're a minority.

[Kilgor]

Didnt France also say no to filming parts of saving private ryan on the beaches ???

hmmmm :roll:

[Kaos]

If so, I really don't mind. Far from being a great problem.