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Parzival
02-08-2004, 04:21 PM
War movies from countrys out of US is very intresting. of course can americans tip about great war-movies from there country too.
Many countrys make war movies in diffrent ways. I see russians, americans, french, finnish, british, germny, norwegian and swedish movies.
Here you can tip about war movies from you country.
Write a link to the movies website or trailer.
http://www.br-online.de/unterhaltung/kino/filme/200211/210/
click on -> hohe Bandbreite
its just a shortmovie but a really impressive one.
MARINO
02-08-2004, 05:20 PM
From Spain you have:
Los ultimos de Philippinas, a true history about Spanish troops who continued to fichtduring 1 year after war into a church.
Harka, about Spanish war in Africa, you have also la fiel infanteria, Sin novedad en el Alcazar etc.. And embajadores en el infierno about spanish soldiers cpatured by soviets durin WWII in camps from Siberia
all those films are from 40's and 50´s after spanish civil war. The last is guerreros is a real ****, antimilitary movie where spanish army had take part and we still don't know why.
http://www.e-falange.com/fei/fotostienda/lafielinfanteria.jpg
http://www.e-falange.com/fei/fotostienda/sinnovedad.jpghttp://www.e-falange.com/fei/fotostienda/lapatrulla.jpg
http://www.e-falange.com/fei/fotostienda/elsantuario.jpg
http://www.e-falange.com/fei/fotostienda/embajadores.jpg
http://www.cartelia.net/fotos/g/guerreros.jpg
And this is the antymilitary ****.
MARINO
02-09-2004, 05:44 AM
There are not many spanish war movies after 50's :( I I want to show more spanish military films, but not antimilitary :slap:
Tengu
02-09-2004, 05:53 AM
Not 2 many belgian war movies.
In fact the only movie i can come up with is the movie from our (Flanders) independence: De Vlaamse leeuw (The Flemisch Lion)
You boys are going to love this: ITS ABOUT A BUNCH OF FARMERS BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF FRENCH KNIGHTS! :bash: :-*$ p-)
http://home.online.no/~vlaenen/bervl.gif
Roger Rabbit
02-09-2004, 05:55 AM
Off Topic
A Bridge Too Far- so many British actors, and an epic movie. I see it as a sequal to The Longest Day. Both were great war movies which didnt need to use excessive amounts of gore to show that war isn't nice. Oh and the Germans weren't protrayed as baby eating mindless killers.
mustamato
02-09-2004, 05:57 AM
Well here are some good ones from Finland
http://store1.yimg.com/I/ihf_1771_14661720
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098437/
http://www.dvdpris.com/img/dvdcovers/7290.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048752/
http://www.mollberg.uiah.fi/Kuvat/tuntematon%20sotilas1.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090215/
http://www.matilarohr.com/Ruka3med.jpg
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162625/
And there is a new war-movie coming up in Finland now as well, with a
budget almost as big as the four above combined, I hope it will be good
**** as well.
Yard Ape
02-09-2004, 06:04 AM
Deippe (http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/item.asp?N=37&R=566417&act=A03&Item=6680520004&Section=video&Catalog=Video&Lang=en&mscssid=NNC4B9GK6X339M2RGUQUG14REENP09FA&WSID=0502996BABFF1087489A9DDBBEB065FBD20E5909)
Saranof
02-09-2004, 08:16 AM
Off Topic
A Bridge Too Far- so many British actors, and an epic movie. I see it as a sequal to The Longest Day. Both were great war movies which didnt need to use excessive amounts of gore to show that war isn't nice. Oh and the Germans weren't protrayed as baby eating mindless killers.
I agree :)
Don't actually know any war movues from Sweden.. :|
Schwabo Elite
02-09-2004, 08:49 AM
Das Boot
Stalingrad
Both very good movies.
Miles Teg
02-09-2004, 08:55 AM
http://www.alyon.org/generale/theatre/cinema/affiches_cinema/p/pac-per/paris_brule_t_il.jpg
http://frenchfilms.topcities.com/nf_Paris_brule_t_il_rev.html
August 1944. The French and American armies are nearing the French capital. Hitler orders one of his generals to retain control of the city or else destroy it. After the massacre of some students, Colonel Rol incites the public to turn on the occupying Nazis. As soon as the allied troops arrive, frenzied battles break out all over the city…
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This monumental epic war film, which offers a graphic portrayal of the 1944 Liberation, received a luke-warm reception with the public when it was released in 1966. With an all star-cast featuring some of the biggest names in French and American cinema, and some impressive battle scenes, the film is weighed down by its own enormity. Despite the length of the film (almost three hours), the action moves at a dizzying pace and, with so many characters, it is difficult to follow the plot in any detail.
Also off-putting is having a large part of the film filmed in black and white. One driving reason for this was that the French authorities would not allow the original black, white and red Nazi flags to be flown anywhere in Paris – so black, white and grey flags were used instead.
René Clement’s most ambitious film is, for all its lavish budget and impressive spectacle, sadly one of his least satisfying.
© James Travers 2000
http://frenchfilms.topcities.com/1966_Paris_Brule-t-il.jpg
Kingpin
02-09-2004, 09:21 AM
A LOT!
Some fresh meat:
The war (2002)
http://www.ctb.ru/base/films/photo_3/CDocumentsandSettingsMike1war_poster.jpg
Recomended: http://video.ctb.ru/Voina.mpg
Coocoo bird (2002)
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_20.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_11.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_21.jpg
In August 1944 (2000)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1409/2402.jpg
The Star (2002)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1380/s/2550s.jpg
OldRecon
02-09-2004, 09:35 AM
Well here are some good ones from Finland
http://store1.yimg.com/I/ihf_1771_14661720
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098437/
...
And there is a new war-movie coming up in Finland now as well, with a
budget almost as big as the four above combined, I hope it will be good
**** as well.
That is one of the best war movies I've ever seen. Some avesome scene (like when f.ex a Finnish soldier is lighted by a Soviet T-26 flamethrower thank). Much better than Blackhawk down.
Don't say much about which part of the front the action is centered on, but to judge from the trenchlike scenery it's either got to be the fighting on the Karelian istmus South of Lake Ladoga or on the Kolla front.
As for Norwegian war movies we've only got 2 to speak of
"Ni liv" (Nine lives)
http://www.snurrfilm.no/pl/n/180703_2906.jpg
Description (http://www.snurrfilm.no/synopsis.asp?fkMID=2906&syntag=Synopsis)
and
"Tungtvannssabotørene" (The heavy water saboteurs)
Which was later made in a Holywood version "The Heroes from Telemark", with Kirk Douglas amongst others.
Not this "Heroes from telemark" movie though rofl (http://www.skiinfo.it/movies/snowboardguide_1_high.mov)
wreck
02-09-2004, 09:47 AM
A LOT!
Some fresh meat:
The war (2002)
http://www.ctb.ru/base/films/photo_3/CDocumentsandSettingsMike1war_poster.jpg
Recomended: http://video.ctb.ru/Voina.mpg
Coocoo bird (2002)
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_20.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_11.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_21.jpg
In August 1944 (2000)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1409/2402.jpg
The Star (2002)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1380/s/2550s.jpg
Damn! I'd really like see those movies. Especially the first one listed, The war. Guess there's no chance of finding those movies from p2p or finnish box offices :|
IDFM203
02-09-2004, 10:26 AM
Here are two Israeli war films that can be found in English (either by subtitles or in sound dubbing).
There are more good ones but I cant find any links to them.
The first is a movie that came out in the year 2000 and its called Kippur (http://www.kino.com/video/item.php?film_id=582) which is a movie that chronicles a medivac unit in the Yom Kippur war.
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=kippur/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://web.utk.edu/~uthillel/images/kippur.jpg
I highly recommend viewing of this Trailer, for it is very well done. (http://www.kino.com/video/trailer_qt.php?film_id=582&media_id=1)
The next movie is on the Israeli rescue of the hostages at Entebbe.
There are a few versions of it.
This one here is the better one and it was produced by Menahem Golan (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0324875/) in Israel who is the same Israeli director and producer that has produced a lot of famous 80’s action films in Hollywood.
The Israeli version is called Mivtsa Yonatan (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0076398/)
http://www.jewishstore.com/Videos/images/SU-392.jpg
There is a U.S. version as well that was made in the U.S. which I found wasn’t as good…though it had a lot of famous actors in it like Richard Dreyfuss, Kirk Douglas, Elizabeth Taylor and it was called victory at Entebbe (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075391/)
Shalom :D
OldRecon
02-09-2004, 10:28 AM
As for Swedish war movies I suppose this is the nearest you'll get rofl (http://svt.se/content/1/c6/06/06/74/f_xy_hi.ram)
Kingpin
02-09-2004, 10:39 AM
wreck
You can get The Cuckoo in English on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000DGKI7/qid=1071420332/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-4555718-6702537?v=glance&s=dvd
WWII. Lapland. The last days of the hostilities between Finland and Russia. A Finnish sniper, Veiko, wearing an SS uniform, is chained to a rock and left to die. For several days we follow his ingenious attempts to free himself from his chains. Meanwhile, a Russian soldier, Kartuzov, a military prisoner of his own army, is being taken to stand trial. They both eventually escape their respective predicaments and end up in the remote farm of a Sami woman, Anni, whose husband has left four years earlier to go to war and has apparently been killed.
Once they reach the farm, they settle in with Anni and an interesting triangle develops. The Finn is a friendly pacifist, the Russian is suspicious and hostile and the Sami woman has no interest in the war at all.
As for The war you can take only Russian version
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1096067&partner=ctb
As for p2p networks
The war:
ed2k://|file|Voyna.(DVDRip.DivX.Rus).Drivemad.ShareReactor.ru.avi|723703808|6971df164625a577ea057b7fedfba3ed|/
Javehn
02-09-2004, 11:05 AM
A LOT!
Some fresh meat:
The war (2002)
http://www.ctb.ru/base/films/photo_3/CDocumentsandSettingsMike1war_poster.jpg
Recomended: http://video.ctb.ru/Voina.mpg
Coocoo bird (2002)
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_20.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_11.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_21.jpg
In August 1944 (2000)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1409/2402.jpg
The Star (2002)
http://www.keed.ru/promo/photos/1/1380/s/2550s.jpg
Saw both of them .... Bodrov better stick to "Brother" movies . But never the less , pretty nice movies . I was petrified from the amount of sigarretes the guy smoked, even for me it was shocking :)
Parzival
02-09-2004, 12:55 PM
HOTET English: The Threat
http://www.hotet.se/images/stunt2.jpg
This is not a real "war-movie" but almost.
This is a swedish movie and here you got the trailer!
Trailer:
http://www.hotet.se/trailerqt2.asp
Parzival
02-09-2004, 01:01 PM
A LOT!
Some fresh meat:
The war (2002)
http://www.ctb.ru/base/films/photo_3/CDocumentsandSettingsMike1war_poster.jpg
Recomended: http://video.ctb.ru/Voina.mpg
Coocoo bird (2002)
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_20.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_11.jpg
http://video.ctb.ru/cuckoo_screenshots/cuckoo_21.jpg
That movie seems to be really good. are that movie translate or subtitle in English. I hope that the swedish tv will show that in the futiure.
Maybe you could tell us the story?
Javehn
02-09-2004, 01:20 PM
That not so "fresh meat" movie , it over 2 years old , i think .The title is translated as "war" . It's about a Russian VDV soldier , that kept in Chechen enprissonment , along with a VDV officer , another soldier , and old merchant jew . To them added English strange guy , and English women , that were performing groop in Chechnya . The soldiers is getting released , along with English guy . English guy must reqruit 5 million marks in 2 month , in order to buy back the women . He isn't succeding in that task , so he returns to Russia , and asking this soldier for help . They driving to Chechnya , and so on ...
There is much better movies from Russia about Chechnya . One is called "Blockpost" , about Russian blokpost overlooking on Chechen village , and the soldiers of the blockpost getting harrased by some local sniper .. Anoth one is "Purgatory" , but the movie is to hard for westerners . And there is a movie , called "Marsh brosok"-"A road march" (perhaps there is a better translation) . It has very nice action parts , and pretty nice story . About some guy that is a commander of a squad in VDV spetsnaz , and some fighting events in Chechnya .
About Israeli movies , there are several war movies , most of them about Lebanon . The famous one containts song , that become a folklore and almost mythical song , called " 2 Fingers from Sidon ..." .
Parzival
02-09-2004, 01:34 PM
That not so "fresh meat" movie , it over 2 years old , i think .The title is translated as "war" . It's about a Russian VDV soldier , that kept in Chechen enprissonment , along with a VDV officer , another soldier , and old merchant jew . To them added English strange guy , and English women , that were performing groop in Chechnya . The soldiers is getting released , along with English guy . English guy must reqruit 5 million marks in 2 month , in order to buy back the women . He isn't succeding in that task , so he returns to Russia , and asking this soldier for help . They driving to Chechnya , and so on ...
There is much better movies from Russia about Chechnya . One is called "Blockpost" , about Russian blokpost overlooking on Chechen village , and the soldiers of the blockpost getting harrased by some local sniper .. Anoth one is "Purgatory" , but the movie is to hard for westerners . And there is a movie , called "Marsh brosok"-"A road march" (perhaps there is a better translation) . It has very nice action parts , and pretty nice story . About some guy that is a commander of a squad in VDV spetsnaz , and some fighting events in Chechnya .
About Israeli movies , there are several war movies , most of them about Lebanon . The famous one containts song , that become a folklore and almost mythical song , called " 2 Fingers from Sidon ..." .
How many of those movies can I find a trailer in?
Royal
02-09-2004, 02:58 PM
OldRecon,
This is probably a stupid question, but do you know if there is a version of "Tungtvannssabotørene" on DVD with subtitles in English, 'cos jeg taler ikke meget Norsk ;) ?
Of all this movies, I´ve never seen the finns ones, actually the finns movies nevers are showed in spanish screens, and it seems I´m losing something interesting. I saw movies of the other countries, but the ones of Russia (better said, soviet era) I´ve seen, weren´t exactly about war but the effects of war in the rearguard, I remembered I liked one called "And the storkes will come back" or a title like this.
About spanish civil war, there is a good movie called "La Vaquilla"(The little cow) directed by Luis García Berlanga, a good director and a vet of IIWW, btw, that was filmed in the 80s and its a bitter/sweet comedy, it´s funny and some of the scenes(only a few) were like that in that war, reality was worst.
http://www.culturalianet.com/imatges/articulos/3718-1.jpg
http://www.culturalianet.com/art/ver.php?art=3718
Macs.
02-09-2004, 04:24 PM
http://www.br-online.de/unterhaltung/kino/filme/200211/210/
click on -> hohe Bandbreite
its just a shortmovie but a really impressive one.
Ahh, thanks for that link !
Parzival
02-10-2004, 12:43 PM
I really want to see "The War"
intelligenzija
02-10-2004, 02:02 PM
You can download english subtitles over edonkey.
Parzival
02-10-2004, 05:30 PM
You can download english subtitles over edonkey.Where can i download the film?
NcDeuce
02-10-2004, 05:35 PM
The Longest Day
A Bridge Too Far
Gods & Generals
*****sburg
Braveheart
Band of Brothers
Anybody see the preview for that movie coming out on the Alamo? Looks badass.
Kingpin
02-10-2004, 05:45 PM
You can download english subtitles over edonkey.Where can i download the film?
Edonkey. I recommend emule client (www.emule-project.net)
Link:
ed2k://|file|Voyna.(DVDRip.DivX.Rus).Drivemad.ShareReactor.ru.avi|723703808|6971df164625a577ea057b7fedfba3ed|/
As for subtitles i can't help :(
fantassin
02-10-2004, 05:51 PM
The best French war films are probably those made by Pierre Schoendorfer, a former military cameraman who spent several years in Indochina during the war.
Here are the critics from Amazon.com
The 317th Platoon
Finest Indochina war film ever made., February 14, 2002
Reviewer: J.M. Brown (see more about me) from Sacramento, CA USA
Directed by Pierre Schoendorfer, a Dienbienphu survivor, and photographed by Raoul Coutard, who shot "Breathless" (the real one, Godard's) and Truffaut's best films, this is in every way the best, most real and gripping filmed drama of the Indochina wars ever made. It was photographed in glorious black-and-white on location in Cambodia. If you were a combat veteran, line doggie or LRRP in Vietnam this wonderful movie will resonate with you. The little details are there, sounds, faces, jungle rivers, all of it. If you weren't there and want to know what it was like then you should purchase this film. No other film comes close to the understated realism and gritty reality of Schoendorfer's masterpiece -- and I've seen them all. This is a true masterpiece of the war film genre and the best "Vietnam movie" ever made. Trust me.
The Crabe Tambour:
Epic, tragicomic and moving tale of a discarded warrior, February 14, 2002
Reviewer: J.M. Brown (see more about me) from Sacramento, CA USA
A little-known cinematic masterpiece of sweeping scope, "Le Crabe Tambour" is a film for people who like a good story and who like to think. It's a wonderful film, a film with real and interesting characters and a film with a real, honest-to-god story. These are rare qualities in movies days and, very unfortunately, there is no way that Hollywood would make a movie like this today. I first saw "Le Crab Tambour" at a Filmex (now defunct Los Angeles film festival) in the 80s and was haunted by it for years. When this VHS version became availavble I was serving in an overseas post (in Eastern Europe) and had to wait several weeks for the video to arrive. I watched the tape in awe. The story development is quite sophisticated and there are many references to Joseph Conrad. If you are a Conrad fan you will find this film to your liking. But it is also linked to Schoendorfer's superb Indochina War film "The 317th Platoon" also available from Amazon. (Buy it if you don't have it.) "Le Crab Tambour" moves beyond the Indochina theater to the "Savage War of Peace" in Algeria and beyond. It helps if you are somewhat familiar with the history of what happened in France's colonies after World War II but this is in no way a documentary. This is a poetic and beautiful story that (at least in my case) captivates and transports you into several wildly different worlds. The central image -- the most amazing and completely Gallic image -- is that of the French naval rating playing a bugle as a little French riverine craft chugs down a Vietnam river. Absurd, tragic, doomed, yet astoundingly beautiful. Our central character (again, related to the "317th") travels on a junk from Indochina to a series of adventures from Somalia to Algeria to Paris to the North Atlantic. Even if you are not particularly fond of the French you will enjoy this film. Should you be a combat veteran of Vietnam or post Vietnam conflicts you will have a special appreciation of the characters.
Only caveat is this is a subtitled film (French track but the subtitles are crisp and easy to read). On the other hand, if you like Joseph Conrad you have to buy this tape. Just buy it.
Another critic:
A French Meditation on Personal and National Honor, April 16, 1999
Reviewer: Victoria Richardson from Tokyo, Japan
Le Crabe Tambour is a moody piece that explores the conflicts inherent in following one's own sense of honor. The backdrop of French colonial involvement in Indochina provides a tableau that will resonate for Americans who experenced their own personal conflicts during America's involvement in Vietnam. However, Le Crabe Tambour is much more than a (French) Vietnam period piece. It follows the conscience of the protagonist through his own inward reflections and overt actions during French involvement in Indochina, and later, in Algeria. Historically compelling, and full of sub-plots and rich character development: this is a fine film that requires time to ponder. As such, it is not for everyone, and won't qualify as "entertainment" for many. However, it is a deeply rewarding journey into the complex world of personal and national honor, in a French context. Le Crabe Tambour is also a film which draws upon jungle, desert, and maritime landscapes to provide symbolic illustration to the riveting story unfolding. I enjoyed viewing this film the first time I saw it; and every time I watch it I find more to think about.
And an Academy Award winner also made by Pierre Schoendorfer, the Anderson Platoon:
Six weeks with an infrantry platoon in Vietnam circa 1967, March 10, 2002
Reviewer: Lawrance M. Bernabo (see more about me) from The Zenith City: Duluth, MN United States
This documentary from 1967 won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature. Director Pierre Schoendoerffer focuses on an integrated American combat platoon of African-American and Hispanic troops in Vietnam commanded by Lt. Joseph B. Anderson, an African-American graduate of West Point. Schoendoerffer had served his own time in Vietnam, having been a veteran of France's Indochina war against the guerrillas of Ho Chi Mihn. Schoendoerffer spent six weeks with the platoon filming their search and destroy combat missions, interrogations of prisoners, life at the front, and visits to a local city on R&R. Narrated by actor Stuart Whitman, "The Anderson Platoon" provides a first hand record of what the war was like for the grunts, where nothing is more important that survival, not even friendship or completing your mission. What it shows us is often more mundane than profound, but the goal here is clearly to preserve a documentary record of what it was like in that time and place. The best thing I can say about "The Anderson Platoon" is that it provided a much better sense of Vietnam than "Platoon," or any other dramatic film I have seen. This may have to do with the shortcomings of Hollywood, which always seemed to be recycling World War II films to set in Vietnam, but I think it has more to do with the cinema verite of the documentary. No, it is not a great documentary, but it is a compelling record of simply what it was "really" like, more than most of us ever got to understand from the evening news or million dollar movies.
serbian boy
02-10-2004, 11:08 PM
Have any of you ever seen "NO MAN's Land" or "Lepo Selo Lepo Gori"
(pretty village burns prettily) pretty shocking movie.
PsihoKeke
02-11-2004, 06:46 AM
To me it's very funnymovie, just like Maratonci trče počasni krug or Ne joči Peter.
Royal
02-11-2004, 07:09 AM
Nicija Zemlja wasn't bad as a comedy. Had f**k all to do with the way UNPROFOR worked on the ground though.
Lepa sela, lepo gore was just wierd. Okay on the former friends become enemies thing, but the director took way too many drugs (think Apocolyspe Now).
OldRecon
02-11-2004, 09:49 AM
OldRecon,
This is probably a stupid question, but do you know if there is a version of "Tungtvannssabotørene" on DVD with subtitles in English, 'cos jeg taler ikke meget Norsk ;) ?
Have only seen the movie once on TV, so I really don't know.
There is a public institution here though that takes care of the history of Norwegian film and TV production, called Norsk filminstitutt (Norwegian film institute), that also has a shop selling copies of old Norwegian movies on DVD or VHS. Maybe you can contact them? You'll find the necessary address information here (http://www.nfi.no/english/aboutnfi/).
Otherwise you have the Hollywood version "Heroes from Telemark" which is all English in dialogue, but being a Hollywood they just couldn't let be the Hyperboles.
The nice thing about the original Norwegian version was that most of the actual heavy water saboteurs played themselves in the film :).
The Ray Mears remake survival story of the raid gives a pretty good overall outline of what happened also.
The art of winter field craft has moved along a bit since WW-2 however, but reckon you're more than aware of that :).
Royal
02-11-2004, 09:55 AM
The nice thing about the original Norwegian version was that most of the actual heavy water saboteurs played themselves in the film :).
The Ray Mears remake survival story of the raid gives a pretty good overall outline of what happened also.
The art of winter field craft has moved along a bit since WW-2 however, but reckon you're more than aware of that :).
That's why I want it ;)
I saw part of Ray Mears thing (which used alot of clips from it), and am getting a copy burned by the boys he used in the reconstruction. I'd just like a copy of the original.
I'll try the link you've given. Cheers :D
BTW The art of survival hasn't really changed, sure there's better kit around, but when it comes down to it it's 90% in the mind.
OldRecon
02-11-2004, 11:43 AM
The best French war films are probably those made by Pierre Schoendorfer, a former military cameraman who spent several years in Indochina during the war.
...
Have only seen the film he made on Dien Bien Phu some couple of years ago. And that was ok.
Some years ago also had access to french TV-5 through my cable operator. There were some war films shown on that channel, whose titles I don't know unfortunately as I was zapping when I accidentaly came to see them.
One of the movies was centered on the crushing of the French resistance in the Vogses.
Another was about a French officer being dragged to court for an atrocity during the Algerian war. Though the court hearing was taking place several years after the end of the war it appeared. From the uniforms of the guys it seemed the unit depicted was a conscript one (not cammo uniforms as for the paras).
A third was about some French naval officer deserting from service in the Far East and somehow ending up as a shipwreck on the shores of Somalia or thereabout. Being taken as a slave by a tribe there, until he showed them how to fight with guns in a clash with another tribe. Upon which they in a way gave him status as a full member of the tribe. The Frenchman in question honouring the gratitude of the "wild men", by doing a runner and escaping from them and back to civilization. :D.
All great films, whom I would have liken to see again.
Anybody know if there ever was made a film based on the book "Les Centurions" by Jean Larteguy?
With characters lik "Colonel Raspeguy" (some say to a large extent modelled on Jaques Bigeard), Captiane Esclavier...etc.
Interesting book, though the first part centered around the prisonership of the main characters under Viet Minh after Dien Bien Phu, was better than the seccond part centered around the Algerian war.
Another interesting book, of which I managed to find a Norwegian translation, was one written by a French medical officer I think, describing a legion campaign in the Maghreb against Morrocan tribes some time during the 1880's/1890's under either Negrier or Gallieni.
OldRecon
02-11-2004, 11:56 AM
Speaking of Hotet ("The threath"). You of course have the Swedish answer to 007 "Codename Coq rouge". Carl Hamilton on the rampage for his Majesty the King sort of.
Based on the books of the author Jan Guillo.
Somehow have a notion of that the creation of SSG was influenced by the Coq Rogue thing, as I think I read somewhere once on the net some years back that all members of SSG were Officers (as were all the special agents of the unit created and lead by captn. Hamilton co-incidentaly)
http://www.filmsajt.se/bilder/film/11307_hb.jpg
OldRecon
02-11-2004, 12:31 PM
... BTW The art of survival hasn't really changed, sure there's better kit around, but when it comes down to it it's 90% in the mind.
May be on to something there.
Did a ski march along the border with Finland and Sweden once, temp was between -30 to -20 degrees, there were gale winds the first day/night, though clear nice weather for the rest of the distance. And though we only carried basic pack + a snowsled, pulled in turns within the team, I hated every minute of it. Cause I hadn't been too entusiastic about it in the first place (being one of the worst skiers in my unit).
Later on a NATO exercise did a 25 km approach march to AO on skis mostly slightly upphill, and back again next day, with a 100 pound load stuffed into an example of the then standard Norwegian army WW-2 vintage bergen, with only one working carrying strap. And didn't feel to bad about it as I thought nothing could be worse than that first ski march :D.
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