Bush Speech on China

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Bush urges greater freedom in China

From: Agence France-Presse
From correspondents in Kyoto

November 16, 2005


CHINA had made great strides economically and should allow greater religious and political freedom, US President George W. Bush said today.
"By meeting the legitimate demands of its citizens for freedom and openness, China's leaders can help their country grow into a modern, prosperous, and confident nation," he said.

http://mercury.tiser.com.au/nserver/SITE=NEWS/AREA=NEWS.BREAKINGNEWS/AAMSZ=300X250/pageid=1 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)
The White House released the prepared speech as Mr Bush was wrapping up the Japan leg of a week-long trip to Asia and prepared to head to South Korea and from there to China before ending the visit with a stop in Mongolia.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17264437-23109,00.html

[tehllama]

From Tokyo -- I find it interesting to make just such a speech from a rival country (Chinese no likey Japanese in my experience), but the speech was really just hint-and-prod over human rights abuses that Bushie couldn't have done from Beijing.

[redflash]

legitimate demands of its citizens for freedom and openness,
this is really getting old, can't bush think of anything else to say.

once he opens his big mouth, you will find 'freedom' stick up somewhere...

[Bluezoo]

This just came in....


Bush Hails Taiwan As Democratic Model

KYOTO, Japan - Challenging China just days before meetings with its leaders, President Bush on Wednesday held up the self-governing island of Taiwan that Beijing claims as its own as a model of freedom "at all levels" that the communist giant should emulate. Bush's speech opening a four-country tour of Asia amounted to a road map of the coming discussions he was to have on a potential bird flu outbreak, global trade, North Korea's nuclear ambitions and other issues at a gathering of Pacific Rim economies in South Korea.

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

[U-S-S-R]

this is really getting old, can't bush think of anything else to say.

once he opens his big mouth, you will find 'freedom' stick up somewhere...

Indeed, it's getting tiring. I guess his interpretation of bringing freedom equals opening a country's doors for Soros-run oligarchy.

[ed316]

Indeed, it's getting tiring. I guess his interpretation of bringing freedom equals opening a country's doors for Soros-run oligarchy.

what kind of commie BS is that? More like bringing Russian Crime into your country

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Indeed, it's getting tiring. I guess his interpretation of bringing freedom equals opening a country's doors for Soros-run oligarchy.

Am I the only one who noticed the irony of our resident self-proclaimed voice of truth and freedom, saying that all this talk of freedom is "getting tiring".

[rocket13]

Wouldn't it be funny when China become the economic power house that everyone speaks about but yet still stays communist and refuses to give freedom to its people.

Then again why worry about freedom and voting when you can have a shinny xbox 360 ;)

[U-S-S-R]

Am I the only one who noticed the irony of our resident self-proclaimed voice of truth and freedom, saying that all this talk of freedom is "getting tiring".

It gets tiring when Bush&co tries to impose their rule on countries under the cloak of freedom.

[ed316]

It gets tiring when Bush&co tries to impose their rule on countries under the cloak of freedom.

Like free elections and democracy?

[Spike_Kojima]

Like free elections and democracy?
Those bastards.

[rocket13]

Like free elections and democracy?


Why is it our responcibility to provide freedom to others?

[U-S-S-R]

Why is it our responcibility to provide freedom to others?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Now hold on - in a span of one page, you guys are all over the place.

What exactly are you objecting to?

The candidates;

-that freedom is bad

or

-that it's only bad when Bush promotes it

or

-that it's good but it's bad that US foreign policy is based upon providing freedom to people.

If you think freedom is bad, then you're beyond help.
If you think it's good, but suddenly turns bad when Bush promotes it, you are mentally ill.
If you think US foreign policy is based upon providing freedom to people, you're either not paying attention (on a grand scale), or are deliberately misrepresenting the facts in order to make a point....neither of which is particularly flattering.

Why don't you just give up the tiresome efforts to tie your dislike of Bush to whatever happens to be going on at the moment? "Bush praises newly discovered bird flu vaccine!" to which you reply "well, if Bush hadn't diverted research funds to Iraq, it would have been discovered last year". Yawn.

[ElHombre]

the problem is one of credibility. specifically, bush doesn't have any. he either, a) doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, b) doesn't actually care in the first place, or c) both. right now, bush talking about the noble ideals of freedom is like a barrel of sewage trying to pass itself off as fine wine.

by his own actions, bush has proven himself that he can't be taken at his word. if he wants to be taken seriously, he needs to start by exercising a little diplomacy and keep silent and let others with more credibility do the talking. perhaps he can ask his dad and clinton to help like he did after the tsunami.

[U-S-S-R]

Now hold on - in a span of one page, you guys are all over the place.

What exactly are you objecting to?

The candidates;

-that freedom is bad

or

-that it's only bad when Bush promotes it

or

-that it's good but it's bad that US foreign policy is based upon providing freedom to people.

If you think freedom is bad, then you're beyond help.
If you think it's good, but suddenly turns bad when Bush promotes it, you are mentally ill.
If you think US foreign policy is based upon providing freedom to people, you're either not paying attention (on a grand scale), or are deliberately misrepresenting the facts in order to make a point....neither of which is particularly flattering.

Why don't you just give up the tiresome efforts to tie your dislike of Bush to whatever happens to be going on at the moment? "Bush praises newly discovered bird flu vaccine!" to which you reply "well, if Bush hadn't diverted research funds to Iraq, it would have been discovered last year". Yawn.

There is no altruïsm in the world. For every move a country (in this case the USA) makes it expects something in return. Whether it's 'lebensraum', money, allies or in these days political leverage or (oil) contracts. If you really believe that Bush's goal is to promote only 'freedom' you are mentally ill, beyond help or both.

Although I said that all countries do this, US policy understandably affects the world most. That's exactly the reason why so many people around the world dislike the political expansionism of the US.

It has to be mentioned that the US is not only protecting it's own interests but also Israels interests. One might argue that Americans actually sacrifice their security for Israel, because the US has nothing to gain there.

Ahhhhh... If we all would be isolationist in our own little countries the world would be a better place.

[ed316]

There is no altruïsm in the world. For every move a country (in this case the USA) makes it expects something in return. Whether it's 'lebensraum', money, allies or in these days political leverage or (oil) contracts. If you really believe that Bush's goal is to promote only 'freedom' you are mentally ill, beyond help or both.

Are you still mad that your Soviet Empire fell? Because y'all were led by idiots

[p$ycho+log!cal]

Are you still mad that your Soviet Empire fell? Because y'all were led by idiots

......this has no sens with what he just wrote...

[ed316]

......this has no sens with what he just wrote...

Read a couple more of his post and you'll find out why I wrote it

[Apathy]

There is no altruïsm in the world. For every move a country (in this case the USA) makes it expects something in return. Whether it's 'lebensraum', money, allies or in these days political leverage or (oil) contracts. If you really believe that Bush's goal is to promote only 'freedom' you are mentally ill, beyond help or both.

Although I said that all countries do this, US policy understandably affects the world most. That's exactly the reason why so many people around the world dislike the political expansionism of the US.

It has to be mentioned that the US is not only protecting it's own interests but also Israels interests. One might argue that Americans actually sacrifice their security for Israel, because the US has nothing to gain there.

Ahhhhh... If we all would be isolationist in our own little countries the world would be a better place.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/apathy18/1131279237405.jpg

Isolationism does not work anymore. We are all in the same boat now. So even though the leak is on the other side boat, we still got to plug it.

[Kilgor]

Indeed, it's getting tiring. I guess his interpretation of bringing freedom equals opening a country's doors for Soros-run oligarchy.

Remember, some people dont want freedom, elections or free speech. They love to have a strong hard rulers like stalin or Mao, ramming their proverbal stiffys in the population for decades.

Thats why all the biggest adovacates of the soviet union are now in america.

[U-S-S-R]

......this has no sens with what he just wrote...

That's why he is on my ignore list. No need to quote him. :)


Isolationism does not work anymore. We are all in the same boat now. So even though the leak is on the other side boat, we still got to plug it.

Why doesn't it work? Because of the artificial centralization of power by Global organisations? (World Banks especially and WTO) It's never too late to untangle ourselver from their web of lies.




Remember, some people dont want freedom, elections or free speech. They love to have a strong hard rulers like stalin or Mao, ramming their proverbal stiffys in the population for decades.

Thats why all the biggest adovacates of the soviet union are now in america.

I say it's up to the people what they want. Let everybody deal with their problems in their own way. Why should we be interfering in others business? Like I said, there is no altruïsm in the world. We are interfering because it suits our goals.