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StukaJr
11-16-2005, 04:22 PM
Putting together a small surprise care package for a friend in the service overseas. I've been window shopping around many sites so opinions must be of the products one has actually handled or comes recomended by someone in the field.
One of the items on my list is a good pair of all around Spring through Fall gloves. If price is worth the quality - the former is of no concern. Must be durable, long lasting, tactical rappelling gloves of a medium weight that can also act as good shooting gloves. Full Finger. Plus Options - cut resistant, fire resistant or if it works in conjuntion with liners (that's if the liners are a usable option).
Appreciate any feedback
Silent 6
11-16-2005, 05:30 PM
Hellstorm gloves from Blackhawk are popular. They're a bit pricey.
Guys have talked about tac gloves on here before...maybe run a search and see what comes up.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1458&highlight=gloves
found this on the second page in a short period of time.
Seraphim
11-16-2005, 05:43 PM
Sounds like you should check out the Hatch F.O.G. gloves. Damascus has a new model coming out called the MX-40 : AXIM...they seem pretty sweet...PM your email and I'll send you the email I received from them.
If any of you guys got some experience good cold weather gloves that still gives you good dexterity. PM me....dont want hijack the thread too bad :D Might just have to try the Hatch Winter Specialist.
Bootneck
11-16-2005, 06:15 PM
Check out SMS Friction Fighter Gloves.
http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/Friction-Fighter-Nt-Gloves-P456C56.aspx
tenda
11-16-2005, 07:33 PM
:) hatch one's are very good...
StukaJr
11-16-2005, 08:51 PM
Why the sad face, Tenda? ;)
Liked both the Hatch's SOG-100 and FOG offerings - ordered both, with pretense that I might need a pair as well for an outting in the desert :) Thanks for the info - I've last bought Hatch 4-5 years ago and didn't know that the quality/offerings improved so drastically.
crazyman
11-16-2005, 09:02 PM
i wore tactical tailor gloves my entire deployment, loved em
dont remember what they call em...basic black leather ones, velcro on the wrist...think they are called impact gloves.
other things he might like from tactical tailor that i loved: kneepads and headlamp
also..oakley M frames make for much better eye pro then the wiley X's we were issued
GoSka37
11-16-2005, 10:33 PM
Ironclad Gloves... I use them... my pair used to be my bro's... he used them for paintball... ten years ago... and they worg great with me for Paintball and Airsoft.
http://www.iclad.com/
I use the General Utility one's... they also work well in cold weather... not water resistant but that doesn't bother me. I might suggest the Framers... tho once again not water resistant... but probably have their tactical purposes. Ooo Ooo! Maybe even the TAC-OPS which seem like they'd work too... uhm... I'm gonna shut up now.
James
11-17-2005, 05:42 AM
I've owned a few pairs of USAF pilot gloves made from nomex and some kind of leather. They've served me pretty well and are inexpensive. They won't work well on their own for rapelling though - too thin.
tenda
11-17-2005, 06:20 AM
Why the sad face, Tenda? ;)
fast post...p-)
you can try also the damascus one ....p-)
http://www.damascusgear.com/
LoTek
11-17-2005, 08:29 AM
Hi,
Hatch SOG-F10 Operator® "CQB" Tactical Gloves
These gloves are awesome:
http://69.94.104.142/media/duty_gear_images/imagessog-f10-L.jpg
tango44
11-17-2005, 02:09 PM
Mechanix original glove.
They have a cammo version and the stealth version.
20 buck a pair.
Seraphim
12-02-2005, 06:53 PM
December only
www.copquest.com
Bomb kicker
12-03-2005, 08:17 AM
I would hope they would discount. Price on some pads are comparable, but you can buy a pair of Hatch SOG gloves for about $22 at the uniform shop on base.
Hispeed1
07-04-2006, 12:21 AM
Anybody own a pair of the original Blackhawk SOLAG gloves? How are they?
ShakesFIST
07-04-2006, 02:47 AM
How many generations are there? What is the difference between them? I have a pair of SOLAGs but didnt know there were different generations.
Icarus1
07-04-2006, 06:28 AM
I use the SOLAG full finger glove to work mostly in winter. In summer i find they are to thick (we have services where you wear them nearly the whole time because of the hygienical situation). I find it's a good glove, only negative point is that the leather on the inner side isn't so grippy, especially when driving you need a stronger grip on the steering wheel. I also practice with them shooting, and this works just fine because they fit good with the second velcro at the wrist.
Hispeed1
07-04-2006, 12:30 PM
Icarus-thanks for the helpful user feedback. Shakes-Blackhawk has a new design SOLAG coming out very soon. Not too different from the current one, just externally.
Icarus1
07-05-2006, 01:32 PM
No problem. If you don't drive much and you're not in too hot enviroment, it's a good glove.
AFJROTC55
07-21-2006, 02:01 AM
im in the market for a pair of gloves, i need somethin kind of all around, for in the field, cut resistance, enhanced grip, especially firing weapons, and handling a suspect, so cut resistance is a factor, something that works well in a tactical environment.
i have kevlar liners but theyre a pain and i dont like havin to put on and take off two pair of gloves,
im not sure if the Oakley MTB Pilots have kevlar protection,
i like flight gloves, they're nice but i need something short cuff, and its hard as hell to find those short cuff ones, if someone can help, much appreciated
if anybody can help or has reccomendations that would be nice.
1*
Seraphim
07-21-2006, 03:52 AM
http://www.damascusgear.com/section/products/flight/dks500.html
www.damascusgear.com
www.hatch-corp.com
Mountain Man
07-21-2006, 06:08 AM
I have both the regular and the "shorty" Operator series and really like them. Wear the ones with gauntlets for ERT and the shorties on the street. Been really happy with the beating they take and the fit.
http://hatch-corp.com/lawpages/sog-l.html
http://hatch-corp.com/lawpages/sog-l50.html
magestyk7
07-21-2006, 08:08 AM
This might sound crazy to you but I recoment "Mechanix" Glove
They last long, Great grip, shoot's great with firearms.
Have been using them for years. If you goin to play on the sandbox deffinetly get a pair. They dont cost as much Either, I use the "Original Glove in black with black letters"
http://garage.mechanix.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=7
it's a good reason why Spec Ops soldiers like em..... they are great.
cosimo
07-21-2006, 10:47 AM
I have mechanix gloves and I really like them but they do tend to show a fair bit of wear. Have you considered SWMS gloves? http://www.southwestmotorsports.com/
I reckon they'll have something that may suit. A good review is available at military morons.
Yeoman
07-21-2006, 12:17 PM
I've got a pair of hatch slash resistant gloves. I've owned them for about two years now and I'm still on the first pair of gloves (well they're about to be retired, they're starting to show the wear now)
they can take a pretty good slash, they're a tight glove, it doesn't really feel like you're wearing gloves when you've got them on. definetely worth the $50 some odd I spent on them
Greg
Whisper_44
07-21-2006, 01:08 PM
Southwest Motor Sports, recently purchased by Camelback, make an excellent product.
crazyman
07-21-2006, 01:22 PM
tactical tailor makes some gloves i like a lot, aint too expensive either
Hispeed1
07-21-2006, 04:02 PM
Old school flight gloves are pretty cool. . . I have seen some guys use Mechanix gloves-they feel pretty good and are very durable. Have you checked out the Blackhawk line of gloves?
brad 1
07-21-2006, 04:25 PM
i would say go for the oakleys i wear a pair every day while riding to/from work they are very comfy feel very light and not cumbersome but they can be slightly chilly at around the 140 mph mark and they are kevlar strenghend plus they look the biz.
brad...
AFJROTC55
07-21-2006, 05:33 PM
thanks all, thats what i needed to hear, those oaks really sparked my fancy tell you what.
1*
Icarus1
07-21-2006, 08:21 PM
I always used Nomex flight gloves on the field and I was really pleased with them. They work great in nearly all enviroments and you got a good feeling. In winter (and I'm speaking of winter in the swiss alps) there's no glove of hatch or damascus that would save you from the cold weather and snow, you need special thick goretex wool whatever gloves, but for normal service the Nomex were great.
Seraphim
07-21-2006, 08:57 PM
Well if you go with the Oakley pilot gloves...make sure you get one size larger.
Noodverbandje
07-31-2006, 12:57 PM
I've got a pair of full-finger gloves and they fit great. The only problem i've got is the velcro strap at the wrist. It makes it impossible to take of these gloves fast amd without any sound.
Rebel Yell
07-31-2006, 01:21 PM
I've got a pair of full-finger gloves and they fit great. The only problem i've got is the velcro strap at the wrist. It makes it impossible to take of these gloves fast amd without any sound.
I have to agree. Moreover, the SOLAG velcro strap system requires a few time to be opened/closed (i.e. if you need to remove fastly the gloves and the wear them again). Although the materials (leather, cordura, etc.) are pretty good, for the above reasons I've recently purchased a pair of Hatch Operator Gloves (and these have even a better grip IMHO).
These are the ones I got:
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2212/exting5ma.jpg
They should be also available with a shorter forearm cover (i.e. it reaches the wrist like the SOLAG).
ShakesFIST
07-31-2006, 02:48 PM
I have seen the pictures of the newer generation gloves and they look kinda nice. All three of my last generation gloves have been great. I've used them as a driver, gunner, RTO and they work just fine for all three of those jobs. I've used them in Iraq, Washington, and Colorado. Without having tried anything but the issued gloves, I'd say they are my best gloves.
akmarksman
08-02-2006, 01:36 PM
I haven't tried the SOLAG gloves..but I had a pair of the nomex aviator that were the heat..(no pun intended)..the leather on those wore nicely..still had a bit of grip on them when I had to chuck them after a interesting fuel mishap..
tacticalmaster[EST]
08-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Tried the SOLAG glove, not really for me. The best gloves for me are Hatch Operator "CQB" SOG-F15 gloves. The grip is absolutely perfect and the gloves breathe and dry really easy. Also they have saved my hands from some pretty nasty burns.
Catch22
01-29-2007, 12:30 PM
Well, I hope this thread might provide some usefull information regarding best solutions for winter/extreme cold handwear - for both civvy and military use. I count especially on scandinavian/alpine country MP.net members oppinions since they have probably most experience in the given topic.
While reviewing diffrent options we should keep in mind that we are looking for optimal compromise between retaining manual dexterity for operating equipment, weapons etc and keeping our hands warm. Personally, I've been using some diffrent gloves - from thin nomex flyers, skiing goretex pieces to clumsy arctic mittens, now I'm checking out the use of neoprene diving gloves (3mm thick), yet they all have their pros and cons - so I'd like to learn what do you guys use in extreme cold to protect your hands? What you find a best solution?
Marsuitor
01-29-2007, 01:28 PM
Back in Kabul, 2005 some of us were issued a pair of Bergans gloves for the winter, which was very cold at times. I think they are originally designed as a snowboarders glove, and they're probably not the warmest around, but they kept my hands good enough to let me do my job whilst speeding down the main road at 100Km/H on top-cover, with an ambient temperature of 30C below (someone else do the maths at what the windchill would amount up to).
It's thin enough to let you use a trigger or do other more finer work, but thick enough keep an ok temperature in low temperatures. But as with any glove, if you're not moving or doing anything, you will eventually get cold hands.
A fine detail to them is the fog-wiper on the left thumb, which also works charms wiping frost and ice off the goggles.
I've now used them during two winters on two tours to Afgh, and they still look like new. I'm recommending them.
Product Features:
- Breathing and windproof
- Friction grip and fog wipe
- Wrist web cinch
- Drawcord
http://www.bergans.no/images/bekledning/3805_large.jpghttp://www.bergans.no/images/bekledning/3805_large_sor.jpg
http://www.bergans.no Should get you sorted.
Catch22
01-29-2007, 02:03 PM
Thanks Marcus, gotta look into it, I like the fog wiping detail.
Jippo
01-29-2007, 02:18 PM
As boring it may be, for shooting I use standard thin damascus gloves. If it is cold I use standard issue mittens on top of those.
http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/pictures/sissikinn.jpg
Basically when below 20C it is nice to have all the fingers together. The problem comes from the fact that you can't do anything with your fingers together so it is a nice compromise. When there is no wind and not very cold, normal leather glove with fur lining will do for most activities.
-jippo
jerka71_1
01-29-2007, 02:29 PM
I like to work with three layers when really cold:
A "flyers glove" or thin ski-glove. Stays on all time when cold never touch metal etc.
A "thumb glove" made out of wool.
And finally an outer thumb glove of leather.
I don´t use finger gloves as outer glove when really cold.
I´ve also tried different variants of expensive materials but found that natural materials work best!!
khukuri
01-29-2007, 04:57 PM
Thin silk gloves
Goretex gloves
Mittens
For military purpose there are mitten who are foldable,theyou can workyour index finger while still combining alla fingers for warmth.
Ijust dont find it justifiable to spend big money on gloves anymore, they wear out so easily ...
Royal
01-30-2007, 04:14 AM
Dachstein mittens.
Start playing with rock, ice, climbing gear or hot weapons and Goretex gets holes (which defeats the object). They also leak at the wrists if your on wet ice.
If it's not that cold Barbour neoprene shooting gloves.
TacoDelRio
01-31-2007, 01:36 AM
I've got some good gloves from REI that I use for climbing. They've kept my hands warm, even when digging in snow.
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=47942169&parent_category_rn=4501423&vcat=REI_SSHP_MENS_CLOTHING_TOC
They're a bit bulky when using a rifle, but it works. For AR15's, you're rather forced to pull down the trigger guard for them.
BrigN96
02-01-2007, 10:19 AM
I'm a norwegian, x-mil and frequent hunter.
If you are talking of extreme cold conditions do NOT use gloves.
The nature of gloves separates your fingers and makes them go colder faster.
Mittens are the only way to go, and two or three layers once are the best.
Standard two layers consist of a outer shell, type Gore tex or other windbreaker and water resistant material. The inner mitten has to be wool, and nothing else.
If you go for the three layers, use wool gloves, with the fingers cut off.
If you need to take your mittens of to handle equipment, put your mittens inside your outer jacket. NOT in the snow or on any cold surface.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3800/1060ux0.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9606/3904xlch3.jpg
Argo AdAm
02-03-2007, 08:45 AM
Very usefull to keep your hands warm in cold weather can be chemical hand warmers. They are one time use, air-activated. All you have to do is to open the package and put the small flat warmer in the glove. They work for about 7-8 hours. I think it's good to have them in an equipment, just in case or to permanent use in extremely cold conditions.
Last summer ;) I used these:
http://www.warmers.com/ItemImg.aspx?myImage=/Media/ProductImages/488.jpg&x=500&y=500
http://www.warmers.com/Category.aspx?Cat=1&pkey=Products%7cWarmers&pval=0%7c1&pIds=Showcase%7cCategoryID
There are similar warmers designed for foot, body, toe. Foot warmers can be very good for use to sleep in very cold conditions cause feet are the most vulnerable to cold (at least my feet).
Cedan
02-03-2007, 08:49 AM
when im out in cold weather I like to use a very thin glove with aluminium fibers and regular good gloves over that, I've never had any problems with cold fingers
atiko
02-03-2007, 10:51 AM
I use a pair of Swehand Nevada (workers gloves). They're cheap and keeps me warm when its down to about -15 to -20°C cold.
If it's colder I use Hatch specialist winter shooting gloves as first layer and mittens as second layer.
ColdOne
02-07-2007, 08:48 AM
Lowe Alpin gloves.... good grip and fog removal surface beetwen thumb and long finger...Had them for some years now, never seem to wear out.
On REALLY cold days i use Bergans like the ones Marsuitor recommended...
TacoDelRio
02-08-2007, 05:04 AM
Argo, those hand warmers are real nice. They last for a whole night of sleeping over ice with no fartbag. Good stuff.
HoboWithAK
02-08-2007, 05:20 PM
I've lived here (Nothern NY) my entire life. Here's the deal. You can have either warm fingers or no fingers. If you wear something thin enough for dexterity, your fingers will soon become so cold that you will risk frostbite (even if you're moving a good amount, they're fingers FFS) or they will get to that gray area where you really aren't hurting the tissue, but you can't feel anyways.
Layering DOES help here, a lot. A silk or really light fleece liner + gloves work very well. I'd say don't worry about fine motor skills, just make sure that finger can pull the trigger.
Oh, and remember, meat on meat is the warmest.
Fallen_Hero
02-22-2007, 11:46 PM
Does anybody know where i can get these gloves?
i attached the pic below
thx...
ShakesFIST
02-23-2007, 12:24 AM
Got any details about them?
that_one_guy
02-23-2007, 01:33 AM
umm not sure the exact brand you're asking for but try these sites:
http://www.omega-gear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse&id=39616&pageid=216
http://www.mmawarehouse.com/MMA-Gloves-Competition-s/22.htm
http://www.karatedepot.com/mma-gloves.html
http://www.gungfu.com/cart-htm/training_gear_gloves_grappling.htm
ZoneOne
02-23-2007, 03:38 AM
Any online martial arts supply store
Fallen_Hero
02-23-2007, 12:46 PM
Got any details about them?
No i got no info on these but i have seen them on many soldiers in europe.
kutter
02-23-2007, 01:56 PM
The pic is kinda small but they look alot like Hatch LR10 3/4in rappelling gloves. it's the old version though, they changed the design recently (the most obvious being the padding on the back of the hand is now 3 seperate pieces). I've attached link of the current ones and a pic of my old style glove for comparison.
http://www.hatch-corp.com/detail.aspx?pid=LR10
no manicure jokes, eh.;-)
Fallen_Hero
02-23-2007, 03:43 PM
The pic is kinda small but they look alot like Hatch LR10 3/4in rappelling gloves. it's the old version though, they changed the design recently (the most obvious being the padding on the back of the hand is now 3 seperate pieces). I've attached link of the current ones and a pic of my old style glove for comparison.
http://www.hatch-corp.com/detail.aspx?pid=LR10
no manicure jokes, eh.;-)
haaaaaaaaaaaaa yes those are the ONES!!!
thank you brother...man i have been looking for these for a long time and i couldnt find it anywhere..do you know where i can buy them?
thx a lot guys:)
kutter
02-23-2007, 06:05 PM
haaaaaaaaaaaaa yes those are the ONES!!!
thank you brother...man i have been looking for these for a long time and i couldnt find it anywhere..do you know where i can buy them?
thx a lot guys:)
I got mine at a local surplus store about 7 years ago. Like I said they changed the design a bit but I've seen a pair from Rothco that look like the old style ones like mine (don't know how good they are though). I'm sure if you google Hatch LR10 you would find lots of retailers. Good luck!
Fallen_Hero
02-23-2007, 11:51 PM
ok thx a lot man been a great help thank u guys
Christophe
02-24-2007, 06:14 AM
Here is a major European manufacturer´s site that makes these gloves.
http://www.gkpro.fr/catalogue/c/intervention/p/mitaines-dintervention/backPID/3/index.html
They are 30 euros.
Their gear is used by a large number of European LE and military personnell.
red dragon
06-09-2007, 03:18 AM
I am looking for a good pair. Any suggestions?
ShakesFIST
06-09-2007, 03:47 AM
You could get any pair of gloves and cut the fingers off.
gearqueer
06-09-2007, 06:00 AM
black weightlifters gloves. if you get a pair in camo then bonus
THE CAT
06-09-2007, 09:40 AM
I use the Watson Shok Blok. You have 2 version, normal and shorty. The best gloves I bought so far.
Sand Man
06-09-2007, 09:54 AM
How about the ones the Chinese were using in the "Today's Pics - July 8, 2007" thread? Anybody got experience with those?
Sabre
06-09-2007, 11:09 AM
What for?
In my opinion, only weightlifters, cyclists and period drama actors need fingerless gloves. If you are doing any sort of mil/LE/weapon handling then you want full gloves. There are plenty of good gloves that allow dexterity and still provide protection against flame/cuts/cold. Steer away from 'rambo' gloves mate, you'll just end up with injured fingers.
That's my advice anyway.
Catch22
06-09-2007, 03:37 PM
^ Listen to Sabre. If want to get your fingers cut or burnt (you know, firearms tend to get rather hot after you shoot them for a while), sure, use them.
PS>Sabre, are those LEGO-Fallschirmjaegers in your profile pic?
Fallen_Hero
06-09-2007, 05:34 PM
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/492/grapplegloveshalfsbb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8382/1411428472leh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hatch LR10 very good gloves and cheap 2
Sabre
06-10-2007, 08:13 AM
^ Listen to Sabre. If want to get your fingers cut or burnt (you know, firearms tend to get rather hot after you shoot them for a while), sure, use them.
PS>Sabre, are those LEGO-Fallschirmjaegers in your profile pic?
Yeah, I found the pic on google images. Thought they were pretty nifty! p-)
raulv
06-22-2007, 11:15 PM
I think!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/raul3000_99/SIGloves.jpg
What do ya'll think!!!!!!
Seraphim
06-22-2007, 11:22 PM
I disagree...
D-gin
06-22-2007, 11:24 PM
HHmmmm......I paid $20 for my Nomex flight gloves more then six years ago and they sill work fine.
digrar
06-22-2007, 11:37 PM
If you'd done 6 years of Infantry soldiering those $20 nomex gloves would be less than rags.
D-gin
06-22-2007, 11:41 PM
If you'd done 6 years of Infantry soldiering those $20 nomex gloves would be less than rags.
Oh come on digs, Everyone knows that paintballing is just as tough as the Infantry. p-)
*sarcasm*
digrar
06-22-2007, 11:51 PM
Yeah... What was I thinking...
Seraphim
06-22-2007, 11:55 PM
Yeah... What was I thinking...
Dig, you missed the hidden sarcasm.
digrar
06-23-2007, 12:01 AM
You just missed mine, it was a lot more subtle than D's... p-)
California Joe
06-23-2007, 12:07 AM
Someone is a grumpy panda tonight. :hug:
D-gin
06-23-2007, 12:09 AM
Someone is a grumpy panda tonight. :hug:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7957/untitledff7.th.png (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledff7.png)
He just needs to go blow something up.
ArmyJonHall
06-23-2007, 12:30 AM
If you'd done 6 years of Infantry soldiering those $20 nomex gloves would be less than rags.
No kidding. I've gone through, in 4 years, 8 sets of issue nomex gloves now. One set only lasted me 4 weeks in the Solomons. Shocking.
James
06-23-2007, 02:03 AM
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/6610/gloveslf8.jpg
Hispeed1
06-23-2007, 02:16 AM
Old school Nomex flight gloves=good and affordable. The Oakleys and new Wiley-X gloves are nice too, but a bit expensive. Check out the new Hatch Operator HK gloves.
raulv
06-23-2007, 02:16 AM
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/6610/gloveslf8.jpg
those look like repelling gloves. sorrry for the spelling
raulv
06-23-2007, 02:19 AM
Old school Nomex flight gloves=good and affordable. The Oakleys and new Wiley-X gloves are nice too, but a bit expensive. Check out the new Hatch Operator HK gloves.https://usstandardissue.com/Default.aspx
go here and register you"ll get a good prize if u qualify. they will be on backorder for a while but they will be well worth it.
they are only $35.
Sand Man
06-23-2007, 02:39 AM
How about Mechanix? Any good insights on those?
raulv
06-23-2007, 02:45 AM
How about Mechanix? Any good insights on those?NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE BUT TO ME THE COLORS SUCK!!!!!!!
raulv
06-23-2007, 03:02 AM
i seen some pretty cool ones, dont remember where they were suppost to be racing gloves but matched with the ARMY ACU.
if anyone has info please post or link.
Sand Man
06-23-2007, 03:03 AM
I've seen SEALs wearing them in the SEAL's thread. They were in black, though.
raulv
06-23-2007, 03:03 AM
I've seen SEALs wearing them in the SEAL's thread. They were in black, though.
cool! do u have a link
Sand Man
06-23-2007, 03:15 AM
cool! do u have a link
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2331592&postcount=318
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6061/2946719993faa91fdb6olr2.jpg
One Shot Tactical Supply
06-23-2007, 09:33 AM
The WileyX gloves are the best out there IMO.
My buddy spent 6 month in A stan with them on and they look pretty much like new except for the stains.
Yes, he was out side the wire all the time.
We stopped carry the Hatch line because of non stop complaints about falling apart after a few weeks.
Besides you can get Global Armour gloves which are very similar to the Hatch ones for half the price.
JDBL14
06-23-2007, 11:02 AM
i just recently got a pair of the mechanics wear impact protection gloves for $24, they are brown and grey in color, and so far in my opinion, the most durable gloves i've had, compaired to issue flight gloves, hatch, and the oakles(i don't have them but a friend does...)
and yes i do airsoft, sometimes, but i've used these for an ftx and weekly training in rotc...
Bohemoth
06-23-2007, 11:41 AM
A real good allround tactical glove is made of thin material yet cut resistent, non-slippery, fire-retardent and durable.
Jarhead
06-23-2007, 01:23 PM
those look like repelling gloves. sorrry for the spelling
Those are Heavy Duty gloves
Jarhead
Hippo
06-23-2007, 05:12 PM
How about Mechanix? Any good insights on those?
cheap, very very durable, great glove all around.
AnUbIs
06-23-2007, 05:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/kwp/9fa11575.jpg
those gloves look familiar
Marine FR
MPNFL
06-23-2007, 05:54 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2331592&postcount=318
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6061/2946719993faa91fdb6olr2.jpg
I have those same gloves, and they are MONEY
ibstolidude
06-23-2007, 06:10 PM
NOT REALLY EXPENSIVE BUT TO ME THE COLORS SUCK!!!!!!!
they come in black now- which beats using a marker.
schwarz
06-23-2007, 06:18 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/kwp/9fa11575.jpg
those gloves look familiar
Marine FR
I wonder how many airsofters are going to be running around with fanny packs now.
Hippo
06-23-2007, 06:24 PM
oh the irony in that statement
Macs.
06-23-2007, 06:33 PM
I wonder how many airsofters are going to be running around with fanny packs now.
I would even guess that this is one, look at the background.
schwarz
06-23-2007, 06:42 PM
I would even guess that this is one, look at the background.
Ah yes a wrinkly pee stained bed sheet.
TehSuig
06-23-2007, 07:14 PM
No active Infantrydeltarangersealsreconcommando has gear that clean and pretty. Sorry. Deffinately some guy with too much cash and a buddy to take his cool-guy pictures.
I used to wear Hatch gloves, but I switched once I bought my first pair of Mechanix gloves. I loved them dearly until I somehow cut one of them pretty bad on something a few missions ago. I decided to step away from the miltary style glove and bought some gloves by a company called Ironclad. I love these gloves too. They make some gloves for military use, but mainly have gloves for roofers/manual laborers. So far they've held up great and I have no complaints. Check them out. https://www.ironclad.com/www/index.jsp I'd deffinately recommend either Mechanix or Ironclads over the Hatch's or regular flight gloves any day.
You gotta remember that if you're outside the wire walking around, searching houses, and busting your ass out in the desert all the time - your gloves are going to eventually fall apart. There really is no glove that take can take infinite abuse.
lightfire
06-23-2007, 08:19 PM
an attempt to participate in another bestlongeststrongestwhateverest contest:
http://www.graveyardproductions.com/images/products/FW8119PK.gif
AnUbIs
06-23-2007, 11:28 PM
I wonder how many airsofters are going to be running around with fanny packs now.
it goes with the loadout ;)
digrar
06-24-2007, 12:09 AM
I decided to step away from the miltary style glove and bought some gloves by a company called Ironclad. I love these gloves too. They make some gloves for military use, but mainly have gloves for roofers/manual laborers. So far they've held up great and I have no complaints. Check them out. https://www.ironclad.com/www/index.jsp I'd deffinately recommend either Mechanix or Ironclads over the Hatch's or regular flight gloves any day.
I've used ironclad gloves a fair bit in mining. Very comfy, reasonably hard wearing gloves.
Institutionalized
06-24-2007, 12:19 AM
My personal favorite are the tried and true nomex flight gloves.
California Joe
06-24-2007, 12:42 AM
I've seen SEALs wearing them in the SEAL's thread. They were in black, though.
It's a good thing the SEALs weren't wearing them in a Marines thread.
The only trouble with the Mechanix gloves is fighting off the sudden urges to change all 4 tires on the Hummer in 17 seconds while you're under fire.
AnUbIs
06-24-2007, 12:53 AM
It's a good thing the SEALs weren't wearing them in a Marines thread.
The only trouble with the Mechanix gloves is fighting off the sudden urges to change all 4 tires on the Hummer in 17 seconds while you're under fire.
hahahahahahaha
Doomsayer
06-24-2007, 08:39 AM
The only trouble with the Mechanix gloves is fighting off the sudden urges to change all 4 tires on the Hummer in 17 seconds while you're under fire.
Now that's funny
Sabre
06-24-2007, 08:59 AM
I use leather RAF pilots gloves. I only really need them for weapon handling and to stop me burning my hands on barrels etc. They're very thin and not massively durable but they're fine for being out in open country/patrolling etc. For anything that would involve a lot of climbing about over shyte or open flames/glass/metal (ie driving or built up areas) then any one of the fairly cheap nomex/kevlar blend flight gloves do the trick. As the guys said, all gloves will get knackered, don't splash out on a fancy pair when a £15 pair of gloves will do the trick.
Laconian
06-24-2007, 09:34 AM
I really used to like the Sapper gloves, medium leather weight with lead powder sewn into the knuckle area, very useful. Then they got banned by my agency. I carried Damascus gloves for a bit, but they weren't as durable as I needed. I carried the Operator gloves and they were fine. Most of the HSLD guys I bumped into all went with the Mechanix gloves and a Sharpie marker. I'm going to look into the Ironclad gloves.
Irish_11
06-24-2007, 05:03 PM
The only trouble with the Mechanix gloves is fighting off the sudden urges to change all 4 tires on the Hummer in 17 seconds while you're under fire.
Thats really funny, nice work
It's a good thing the SEALs weren't wearing them in a Marines thread.
The only trouble with the Mechanix gloves is fighting off the sudden urges to change all 4 tires on the Hummer in 17 seconds while you're under fire.
thats funny! p-)
tango44
06-25-2007, 03:21 PM
I think!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/raul3000_99/SIGloves.jpg
What do ya'll think!!!!!!
Totally useless! and expensive, not worth it!
http://garage.mechanix.com/Images/products/xlarge/orig_c.jpg
This is enough for 20 bucks!
oregongrunt
06-25-2007, 06:28 PM
http://www.siestacrafts.co.uk/__uploads/catalog/NW10a%20rainbow%20wool%20gloves_1.jpg
Pete031
06-25-2007, 06:42 PM
The Hatch Operators you can draw from the CQ... When they break, just get a new pair.
SMGLee
06-26-2007, 05:00 AM
Southwest motorsports being the benchmark for me
I have been running a pair of the Blackhawk SOLAG Nomax... it has been pretty easy to wear so far. dexterity are decent, the fit is nice except for the index finger, it was a bit too long. it still bunch up a bit too much for my taste, but it will take some asbuse in the palm area, I guess that is the trade off.
ABNINF
06-26-2007, 11:41 AM
I use the Hatch shooters. After shreading my Nomex gloves in 3 weeks, I went with the Hatch, which lasted me the rest of my tour
baboon6
06-26-2007, 12:34 PM
The Hatch Operators you can draw from the CQ... When they break, just get a new pair.
:-)
Why do you need gloves to operate a hatch?
Pete031
06-26-2007, 02:58 PM
:-)
Why do you need gloves to operate a hatch?
It gets cold up here Buddy...LOL
D.Sigurdsson
06-26-2007, 03:01 PM
I have two pairs of Hatch Operator gloves, both are falling apart at the same place, I also have a pair of nomex flight gloves that are also falling apart.
Any of you EU fellows have a decent source for these?
ETA: I also had (lost them about 3 months ago) a pair of your avarege mountainbike gloves, used them for over two years for shooting and working, no problem with them.
D.Sigurdsson
07-02-2007, 08:39 PM
bump to top
johnyew
07-02-2007, 11:49 PM
Post deleted.
I apologise for posting inappropriately. Mods, please remove post completely if possible.
D.Sigurdsson
07-03-2007, 04:45 AM
I'm currently using Mechanix gloves and they're holding up great.
Maybe it's just me but I can't see how this is inappropriate
I'm a cheap bastard. I use the issue US made green/grey nomex and leather gloves and cut the thumb and index finger off. They are not durable field kit but that was not what they were designed for originally.
I use them because replacement is free and I'm yet to use a pair of gucci gloves that stop f#$%ing spinefex penetrations.
Rebel Yell
07-04-2007, 05:56 AM
Blackhawk SOLAG gloves...
Jarhead
07-04-2007, 07:48 AM
The new german IDZ combat cloves aren´t bad
Jarhead
Sloppy Joe2
07-04-2007, 08:37 AM
i have a pair of them oakley gloves, aint bad except they are already falling apart(c-wire hasnt helped) and they suck if you have to squeez your hand into somewhere tight (doing the credit card on personelle search :D)
the mechanic gloves do the job, durable and i havent had a problem when i used them.
sgt124inf
11-08-2007, 07:21 PM
I Know That The Fingers Were Cut Off.i Am Just Looking For The Name Brand Or Type He Using...thank You In Advance.
TacoDelRio
11-08-2007, 11:44 PM
Metolius makes good ones.
http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/gloves.htm
Most folks don't like them. I like them though. Just my taste.
I've used Uncle Mike's fingerless leather gloves for a few years, and they are just starting to wear. I've used them for shooting, rappelling, climbing, work, etc.
http://www.uncle-mikes.com/products/leather_shooting_gloves.html
I would go with tan, unless you want red/black dye on your hands.
SMGLee
11-09-2007, 01:55 AM
What for?
In my opinion, only weightlifters, cyclists and period drama actors need fingerless gloves. If you are doing any sort of mil/LE/weapon handling then you want full gloves. There are plenty of good gloves that allow dexterity and still provide protection against flame/cuts/cold. Steer away from 'rambo' gloves mate, you'll just end up with injured fingers.
That's my advice anyway.
I agree, the gloves it protect your hands and fingers, I never find those cut off gloves to be any use.
Chulo
11-09-2007, 01:58 AM
I Know That The Fingers Were Cut Off.i Am Just Looking For The Name Brand Or Type He Using...thank You In Advance.
this guy has a fingerless glove obsession ..
tactical73
11-09-2007, 08:10 AM
you say well SMGLee :up:
Nephilim
11-09-2007, 04:04 PM
@ smglee
try to fumble some very delicate machinery with leather or nomex gloves p-)
but apart from that yea it doesnt really make much sense in a combat situation
Eoin666
11-09-2007, 10:07 PM
"Arnold, you'd be able to write better if you removed your boxing gloves"
XxDrAg0nxX
11-10-2007, 03:59 AM
Fingerless?? :D
I thought they were called half finger gloves?
I have a blackhawk assault 1/2 finger, not bad... durable, comfortable, not hot as on top is sort of open...
XxDrAg0nxX
11-10-2007, 04:05 AM
http://www.blackhawk.com/images/catalog/SOLAGHF_0BIG.JPG
http://www.blackhawk.com/product1.asp?P=SOLAGHF&C=C1909
Royal
11-10-2007, 05:59 AM
@ smglee
try to fumble some very delicate machinery with leather or nomex gloves p-)
Pilots seem to cope okay - and there's not much more delictae than a jet fighter. What most people don't do is get gloves that actually fit
Sabre
11-10-2007, 06:29 AM
Most military equipment is designed to be used when wearing gloves anyway, or how else is an army supposed to fight in winter or in a CBRN environment?
With the possible exception of the swiss army knife.
harosokman
08-04-2008, 02:22 AM
I recently went field with some new nomex gloves. i must admit, they are a fantastic piece of kit, however now they're really dirty.
Does anyone know how to wash them, im worries about the leather.
dave81
08-04-2008, 03:15 AM
Soap and water. Nothing special. You can even throw them in the washing machine and dryer and the leather will come out the same.
Be aware, though, that they don't last very long under regular daily military use (sandbags, weapons, vehicles, climbing in & out of trucks, etc), maybe 3-4 months.
harosokman
08-04-2008, 03:50 AM
Cheers,
Thanks for that...
wildcat
08-04-2008, 03:52 AM
I recently went field with some new nomex gloves. i must admit, they are a fantastic piece of kit, however now they're really dirty.
Does anyone know how to wash them, im worries about the leather.
I always wash mine in the washing machine
dangerdan87
08-04-2008, 04:30 AM
My nomex gloves would barely last me a month in Iraq.
wildcat
08-04-2008, 04:31 AM
My nomex gloves would barely last me a month in Iraq.
I had 2 set in Iraq, but I would put my leather shells over the them, I guess that why they lasted.
Hispeed1
08-04-2008, 01:46 PM
Wash in soap and water then air dry. It's lightweight and you get great finger dexterity. I myself sometimes prefer them to the chunky Oakley SI gloves or Wiley-X CAG gloves for shooting.
martinexsquaddie
08-04-2008, 01:50 PM
there not that heat resistant as somebody found out when gucci nomex gloves met hot gpmg barrel mind you saved his hand so what was he whining about
Sir Zach of R.
08-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Wash in soap and water then air dry. It's lightweight and you get great finger dexterity. I myself sometimes prefer them to the chunky Oakley SI gloves or Wiley-X CAG gloves for shooting.
Oakleys come clean easy, but they're neither fire resistant or kevlar. We got issued two sets of Hatch Shorty Operator's Gloves, and they're the best gloves I've ever had. I already burned through one pair by getting battery fluid on the fingers, but that was my dumb ass.
LaoSexMachine
08-05-2008, 04:59 PM
I always wash mine in the washing machine
x2 .
Pappy
08-06-2008, 12:17 AM
Oakleys come clean easy, but they're neither fire resistant or kevlar. We got issued two sets of Hatch Shorty Operator's Gloves, and they're the best gloves I've ever had. I already burned through one pair by getting battery fluid on the fingers, but that was my dumb ass.
X2 I used Hatch shorty operator gloves for the second half of my deployment and they were great. I cut the index fingers and thumbs off of them for dexterity too which really helps if you're frequently manipulating small parts when you have the gloves on. Now, with those fingers off, and the gloves not extending past the wrist they were cool but fire safety was obviously compromised a bit.
And for cleaning, I use soap and water, then let it air dry. Sometimes I'll apply leather conditioner to the palm so that it doesn't get hard and crusty.
lukipsc
10-26-2008, 07:09 AM
Hi guys,
I would like to ask you
which type of gloves do you recomment for duty on street (for COP) I prefer cut resistant and with cut resistant and puncture resistant. I bought from
Hatch
Street Guard with X11
and
PPG1
do you have any practical experiences with this gloves how can protect your hands? Please write them.
Thank you
Policía Loco
10-26-2008, 05:21 PM
I use Hatch Streetguard SGK100 w/Kevlar. The inside of the hands and fingers are lined with the Kevlar. I'm on my third pair. As far as any other gloves, they should be comfortable and fit well. I would make sure that I could be just as proficient handling my weapon with my gloves on as I am with them off. Not just drawing it and firing, but also working the slide, the safety, and loading and reloading.
bobunio
10-26-2008, 07:04 PM
Hatch Streetguard SGK100 w/Kevlar
These are the ones I use as well. I used to buy cheaper gloves but all they do is turn your hands black from sweat/etc.
Mountain Man
10-26-2008, 09:13 PM
I wear the operator shorties. Love them.
FDF_Hemppis
10-26-2008, 10:58 PM
PPG1
do you have any practical experiences with this gloves how can protect your hands? Please write them.
During the last 3 years I've used PPG1's, Street Guards (X11) and Friskmasters (FM2000). I'll write up some points about each.
PPG1
+ Good fit (get a snug fit, they'll loosen up a bit with use)
+ Good-ish protection, X11 + protected fingertips (see cons, though)
+ Breathing fabric makes these pleasant to use, even in hot weather (works both ways, see cons)
- Not very suitable for anything that might require the use of ones fingertips, the needle-resistant "ArmorTips" are very stiff. Feeling someone's pockets, you can stick your finger to a needle and not feel it, that's how "numb" they make you. I also had a bit of a hard time with the wide and hard thumb and flip-top OC cans...
- The X11 fabric only covers the palm area, leaving the back of your hand exposed.
- Not very warm (when cold)
SGX11
Probably my favourite ones...
+ Good fit
+ Good protection, X11 all around your hand.
+ Good grip for weapon or gear
+ Thin enough for feel, thick enough to protect.
- Bitch to keep clean, the fabric soaks all kinds of dirt into it, and using disinfect makes them smell like sh1t in the long run...
FM2000
+ They last for years of use
+ Easy to keep clean
+ Plain looks
+ Provide the best other-than-cut protection
- Can be a bit slippery
- Although these are somewhat thin, some might find them too thick for weapons handling
- Pricey
- Protection is worse than with X11
Christophe
10-27-2008, 09:16 AM
I use the Hatch Operator 300.
I needed a glove for patrol duty as well as riot duty and this is perfect for me. The issue riot gloves are way too cumbersome to handle the GL or Ispra.
Pos:
-Kevlar and leather material.
-Excellent knuckle protection.
-Excellent feel (weapons handling etc,...).
-Fire retardant.
Neg:
-Wrist length. I wish they would make this model with a longer sleeve like the SOG 600.
lukipsc
10-27-2008, 10:00 AM
Thanks to everybody for your answers.
And what do you say on:
COP® 'NIGHT SENTINEL'
COP® 'PATROL GUARD'
SEK PRO or
SWAT PRO
any experiences? Today our dealer said that Hatch will not for our republic :(
orange
10-27-2008, 10:37 PM
I use the Hatch Friskmaster SB8500 (I think) right now and I find them a bit to cumbersome atm. They have great protection and all that but they're a bitch to put since the kevlar liner tends to get all snuggled up inside the "outer glove". Not that happy about them.
Before that I used a an older model of Streetguard but they didn't have any cut or needle resistance except for in the area between the thumb and the index finger. I used them while frisking people at an airport and I had them for about a year, which would mean a couple of thousands frisked, so they don't wear out easily.
I'd go for the SGX11 hands down. I think I'm going to buy a pair.
Hokiecadet88
10-28-2008, 12:18 PM
Im just asking what your opinion of the SI Assault Gloves. Mostly personal experience, do they work well in hot and cold, and comfort. Any help would be appreciated.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2186/5b6410dc3048812a2e41b4fnd5.jpg
Hokiecadet88
10-28-2008, 12:22 PM
If anybody has personal experience with these gloves I would greatly appreciate it. I am considering buying a pair of cold weather gloves that allow me to operate my weapon, write in a notepad, operate a compass/land nav materials, and carry out other common field task while still keeping my hands warm.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1515/25509l7314288ac1.jpg
budgie
10-28-2008, 01:05 PM
Looks great with Blood Diamond Pants.
Hokiecadet88
10-28-2008, 01:37 PM
Why yes of course they do lol.
LillaMy
10-28-2008, 04:58 PM
I have a pair of Hatch Specialist Neoprene Gloves...
The gloves are very well suited for shooting and "normal" military carrying/loading shyt as well as handling of pencils, computers etc.
On the drawback is the fact that they are made of just Neoprene. It will give you great feel and grip capabilties but the gloves breaks easily and the material is just not durable enough for extended use.
If we leave fire protection i.e. the gloves will melt onto your hands...
The main drawback is that the gloves is not breathable. This means that your hands(after aprox. 10mins) will be wet or at least have moisture on the inside...If your planning of using the gloves in a real winter environment (I am a swede and that means -20C) that moisture could spell disaster.
For winter duty I would recommend using thin leather gloves (I use a variant from Hatch). Another alternative would be Gore windstopper...
Trunk_Monkey
10-28-2008, 05:00 PM
Hey buddy, I've got these and they're alright. They're warm enough, but at the cost of dexterity. It's possible that I sized mine too large, but something just feels off when you're firing. While grippy, they're bulky and that has thrown off more than one shot for me...but then again, I'm a picky guy when it comes to cold weather gloves. Writing is almost out of the question for me with them on, although nav is easy enough.
Trunk_Monkey
10-28-2008, 06:18 PM
LillaMy, I agree on the wet-not-so-breathable bit. They ARE warm, but I really found that I had no dexterity.
TehSuig
10-28-2008, 08:33 PM
I've tried basically all the winter military style gloves I can find and have not found any that work well for military operations. They're all either too bulky or not warm enough. I stepped away from the military market and went to REI to get my gloves for Afghanistan and found that civilian mountaineering type gloves fit the bill much better. If you have an REI type store near you, go there and start trying gloves on.
In a strange twist, my favorite pair of gloves in the 'ghan were actually mittens that allowed you to pop your fingers out when needed.
http://www.rei.com/product/773910
Seriously, try them. I've worn them on patrol with my fingers out and had no problems manipulating my NODs or anything on my weapon.
Hispeed1
10-28-2008, 08:46 PM
That's the Gucci gear right there. They're ok, I sold mine. They were a little loose on a couple of my fingers. You need to get used to the backside of the knuckles on the top of your hand. Check out the Hatch Operator HK gloves too if you're on a budget. Or good ol' flight gloves.
SMGLee
10-28-2008, 09:45 PM
I had a pair that i wore through in some spots during a 3 day 2500 rounds pistol class. It is very comfortable and it provided great dexterity, but a little lackluster in the durability department.
I switched to the new Wiley-X CAG-1 gloves and have been very happy with it, it is not as cool looking as the Oakleys but they are just as comfortable and very durable. I also have a pair of the new BHI SOLAG gloves, the pair i got in large was a bit smaller then my hands so although it seem comfortable, I don't wear it much except for hauling steel out of the conex box.
As far as the go to Gloves to buy...the New EOTAC vickers gloves... you can go to http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=20572, sign up as a member on that forum and you can get 20% off on the Vickers Gloves.. I tried those on once and they are probably the best gloves i have wore so far and it will be my next purchase once io go through the Wiley-X
http://www.eotac.com/images/products/m_a107.jpg
jagermeister
10-29-2008, 12:16 AM
I've always had good luck with them and will continue buying them.
Sloppy Joe2
10-29-2008, 01:09 AM
i liked mine, comfortable and they breathed pretty well, the mesh part of the hand doesnt stand up to well against C-wire.
Eztyga
10-29-2008, 01:17 AM
Looks great with Blood Diamond Pants.
And lonely men jack off with because of the raised 'stimulators'...
Britboy
10-29-2008, 08:55 AM
Seen a coursemate with something that looked like these, except they were black and the knuckles weren't a hard shell so much as a softer-rubbery-plasticy material. No idea exactly which model they'd be though?
He seemed happy with them, anyhow.
TRIAX
10-29-2008, 09:16 AM
Excellent gloves. Cool
tactical73
10-29-2008, 10:12 AM
comfortable but they last little, I prefer the SMWcamelback
Christophe
10-31-2008, 05:59 PM
They´re nice, but I prefer my Hatch Operators. Same thing basically, but better fire retardant and no annoying air-holes.
I have had a pair for work for about 18 months. I have a tan pair for team stuff and a black pair for everyday work wear. They fit well and work pretty good. I had to cut off the thumbs and the trigger finger to get the right feel on my weapons. Yesterday I did my quarterly departmental Sniper qual in them and shot just fine passing the first time without a problem. I like having the extra hard knuckles for DT work and H2H. BTW they work well on people. I have been pretty happy with them and they seem to be holding up very well. Out of a team of 22 of us 18 have them and everyone is happy. We went to them after replacing Hatch Operator gloves because the fingers came apart after a couple of months and the stiching came out. One real draw back with the Oakley is they are not fire retardend so for deploying LSDDs they aren't as safe and will burn. They are a fire problem! Oakley just introduced them in small and extra small as well.
Britboy
11-02-2008, 07:00 AM
Wider question: Why does it seem to be the 'in thing' to wear gloves all the time now?
I can understand in the winter, as its freaking cold; I can understand if you are searching people, since the last thing you want to do is get a needlestick injury or such...
But why in decent weather/hot weather? Why for general shooting, whats the benefit? Don't you find it slows down your weapons handling, and makes general things more fiddly?
Regards
BB
jagermeister
11-02-2008, 12:28 PM
Well have you ever fired a weapon tell it was smoking? Or touched a metal object that has been out in the 120 degree weather? Gloves are truly priceless.
I can only speak to my experience however; I began SWAT in 1988, at that time no one I'm aware of other than a few elite military units wore gloves. The glove thing began for me about 1991-3. We (LE SWAT) began on a small scale to wear gloves nomex primarly. Prior to that in the late 80s no one wore gloves generally. Fast rope and rappeling operations required a better glove than what we had. Most of us wore work gloves of a rough leather type for farm work for rappling and fast roping. Then we began to see injuries from detonations occasionally from LSDDs detonating during training to users, sometimes burns. Once in while you would see injuries from breaching ops forced entry missions to the hands of operators. Then we have ops that require intervention with individuals armed with knives or small slashing instruments (jail setting). This requires cut / puncture resistant gloves with long guantlets up the arms. The evolution of gear has progressed to the point now that more information is widely spread and the needs of the end user are more rapidly addressed with the advent of so many companies competing for the dollar. Now there are so many Military users and so many SWAT teams in the USA that the manufactures are making a fortune just staying up with the need. At one time we would make our own gear and no one made anything other than "Eagle" and a couple of other small companies. Many now consider gloves manadatory safety gear and require them for the operators. The other factor involved is more contempory training has evolved and the older Cops in charge are retiring with old methods, ideas and frankly misconceptions. Younger, better trained and more litigation senstive professionals are moving up the ranks. Also SWAT and LE in general is much busier and the work load has increased. I have 5 sets of different gloves for different mission peremeters to protect my hands. At times depending on the mission I have at least two sets on me at all times plus two more sets of blood borne pathogene protective gloves. This is due to the high level of Hep C and Aids in some communites in the general population as well as drug users that have needles on them. Society is changing and the equipment and skills required is changing as well for responders. Prior to 1998 we never wore protective glasses just goggles for special ops. Now this is mandatory regular duty wear due to the increase in spitters in our client base. The list goes on and on! The customer gets what they order.
Britboy
11-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Yep, I've burnt myself on metal parts of the gun after blatting a fair few rounds off.
Barrel changes can be a bitch for that sort of thing :p
But you soon learn not to do it! Very quickly...
IMTT that's a great description, I can see how cops need them, especially for searching people.
Do you just use the latex gloves for searching people, or is there a more substantial glove that'll stop a needlestick? Since that could be useful for troops having to search various peoples in current theatres...
I have worked in LE and the US Military as an active & reserve for many years. In both arenas I feel gloves are manadatory. In the case of barrel changes the AG kit comes with a mit that should be in the bag with the extra barrels. The great part about the M249 is that you can use the barrel handle to do a qwick change even when its hot. The M2 comes with a mit as well. The old Pig (M60) also has a mit. I'm not sure about the 240B. However in regard to the M4 if you have the all metal handgun with rails it can get pretty hot pretty qwick that's the nice part about the old style handguards they keep your hand cool. As recently as a couple of days ago I was on the range firing my duty weapon. We shot about 150 rounds respectively in a short time frame, we were doing ready up drills and shooting on the move. The weapon was giving off steam and burning oil off the surface areas on the barrel resulting in slight smoke. I had my Oakley gloves on and the handguard never got hot enough to prevent handling. That's where the vertical grip on the rail systems come in nice.
As for the needle stick gloves there are many types but many don't combine the tactical requirements. Typically they have a thin black leather covering with a yellow kevlar lining to prevent sticks. I have a pair of guanlets that were made in Russia that are laterially razor proof they pull up all the way to the elbow. The are not as good for sticks but close. I use these once in a while for specific tasks I also have a scarf that is made of the same material to prevent slashes to the throat. They were gifts from some Estonian friends and they work very well. They are strange material and I have never seen anything else like it sold in the USA. Its also important to wash your gloves after contact with subjects after shift if you are using them for clothed body searches or hands on searches. I haven't looked recently for new gloves but I'm sure Hatch or one of the other glove manufactures combines many requirements by now. I get most of my gear issued so I really don't get to wrapped up in searching for new stuff all the time.
Christophe
11-02-2008, 05:34 PM
Yep, I've burnt myself on metal parts of the gun after blatting a fair few rounds off.
Barrel changes can be a bitch for that sort of thing :p
But you soon learn not to do it! Very quickly...
IMTT that's a great description, I can see how cops need them, especially for searching people.
Do you just use the latex gloves for searching people, or is there a more substantial glove that'll stop a needlestick? Since that could be useful for troops having to search various peoples in current theatres...
Just for me:
During regular patrol: I use the gloves for searching people and close encounters.
For riot duty: Since I am a grenadier, regular riot gloves are too thick, not enough feeling using the issued weapons like a Cougar grenade launcher or its hand grenades, or an Ispra gas device.On the other hand, the Hatch Operators have great feeling, are nomex so fire retardant, as needed, with nuckle protection as an extra touch.
Britboy
11-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Hmmm, interesting.
I know the Canadian Forces issue a 'Mortarmans Glove' which is meant to be pretty dextrous as well as insulating (I'm guessing its got to be insulating with mortar barrels getting pretty hot, and in Canadian winter up north...)
I'm actually on the lookout for a pair of new gloves since I just lost a pair, bad skills I know :(
Waterman
11-04-2008, 10:38 PM
Neoprene gloves a great in modest cold conditions. But as stated above, your hands are wet if you are doing anything active...which can be very bad if you are in VERY cold conditions. I find that they work better in milder, but maybe wetter conditions.
Something that I have found that has worked well is to wear a lightweight full finger mountain bike type glove under a heavier insulated glove. When I need to do detail work, I can slip off the outer glove, and still have my fingers covered (I have been in places where you could freeze to bare metal unless your skin was covered).
But as stated above, you need to spend some time in an outdoors store (REI, EMS, etc, etc.) and try some on. And see what will work for you in your situation.
Waterman
11-04-2008, 10:44 PM
It's a good glove for retaining dexterity. I have been happy with mine....but they have showed their use very quickly. What you gain in dexterity, you lose in protection (and as stated above they are NOT fire resistant).
My work keeps me more in wet places where I need abrasion protection and grip, and I have been happy with mine.
gtronin
11-05-2008, 05:44 AM
I have bought these gloves and they are not bad...
I dont think they were meant for the field though, more LE use is my guess...
I found that the gloves were too short and that rain, snow and other stuff got into the glove from the cuff... you cant close the sleeve over the glove or the sleeve over glove...
The winter specialist is not only neoprene, but has a liner in it. As it goes it is a pain in the butt when it separates when you remove the glove... especially when its still wet...
the glove isnt flame-proof, but obviously will not spontaniously combust, I mention this because besides the negatives mentioned, I did not dislike the gloves.
If you arent out for extended periods and usually ride around in a vehicle, they wont melt if you dry them on most hot spots on the armored vehicle...
They do retain some warmth even when they are wet and dont take too long to dry.
Dexterity is ok, you can do most things with them...
I think the gloves could be alot better, but then again I havent seen any glove out there that can keep your hands dry and warm for the field... so... I am on my second pair... my first pair got caught in the hatch and get extra ventilated...
kaibilgt
11-12-2008, 12:23 PM
Hi.
I am considering buying a pair of gloves that allow me to operate my weapon and drive my Motorcycle I have two ideas
SureShot™ Leather Shooting Glove
BSG170
Or
Street Guard™ with X11™ Liner
SGX11
Im from Guatemala sory for my Inglish
Thanks
Carib
11-12-2008, 04:11 PM
You're not in MS-13 r u?
kaibilgt
11-12-2008, 04:14 PM
You're not in MS-13 r u?
ajjajajajajaja.... :fork: nop...
Pappy
11-12-2008, 05:32 PM
You should not get one set of gloves for both motorcycle riding and also shooting. They require two very different things. Shooting requires heat resistant gloves, and riding requires abrasion resistant gloves. Even if the shooting gloves are leather, it most likely won't be a leather that's resistant enough to the pavement at 50mph.
I have a pair of Hatch gloves EM007 50%Kangaroo leather 50%Schoeller Dynamc Extreme.Not sure what that means but they are comfortable.
JC0352
11-12-2008, 06:47 PM
yea, just buy some motorcycle gloves AND some shooting gloves
kaibilgt
11-13-2008, 05:20 PM
yea, just buy some motorcycle gloves AND some shooting gloves
Thanx...
I have Blackhawk HellStorm SOLAG they are comfortable...
Hispeed1
11-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Some suggestions:
For riding: Alpinestar gloves
For shooting: Hatch HK gloves, Wiley-X CAG gloves, Oakley SI, Mechanix Original or flight gloves. Good luck.
GETSOME
11-15-2008, 11:16 AM
Stupid question,is there a gloves thread ,i cannot seem to find it.:oops:
Policía Loco
11-15-2008, 11:01 PM
These are very popular with guys I work with. Inexpensive also.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6475/glovedq5.png
gilgoul
12-11-2008, 02:34 AM
I now use 5.11 kevlar lined gloves whenever in reserves, after I cut myself nicely doing a car seat search.
The problem will be in the summer thought, how will I handle the heat 8 hours a day with gloves, no Idea.
Maybe reverting to a pair of nomex gloves, they don't feel too hot, but don't offer the same protection.
Yarrick2
12-11-2008, 03:22 AM
These are very popular with guys I work with. Inexpensive also.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6475/glovedq5.pngshould be $15-20 at your local sears.
tactical73
12-11-2008, 07:19 AM
I now use 5.11 kevlar lined gloves whenever in reserves, after I cut myself nicely doing a car seat search.
The problem will be in the summer thought, how will I handle the heat 8 hours a day with gloves, no Idea.
Maybe reverting to a pair of nomex gloves, they don't feel too hot, but don't offer the same protection.
Camelback SwMotorsport Magnum MP glove ,+++++++++1
great product ;-)
UK1RPO
01-16-2009, 06:18 AM
Sealskinz Ultra Grip Glove Waterproof. These are very good!
http://im.edirectory.co.uk/p/55/i/sealsglovewater.jpg
CQB_Operator
01-19-2009, 05:17 AM
I've bought (a couple of years ago) some Oakley SI gloves, the fitting is not that good the fingers are too long for me and if I take a size down, I can't slip my hand into (too narrow :|). Some colleagues of me had the same problem with these gloves. I also find the palm to be not very protective.
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/ProductImages/gloves/350/94025-323-Ltop_350x350.jpg
I tried the Hatch CQB Operator, very good gloves but not very long lasting.
https://dstactical.com/images/sog-f10-L.jpg
I also tried the Damascus,they copy Hatch but the copy is better than the original IMHO p-)
http://www.recon-tactical.com/images/Interceptor%20X.jpg
I finally found what's the best (for my use)
The Mechanix Wear Impact, they are excellent, long lasting (I got them more than a year ago and they are still in perfect condition. excellent for shooting and for bodysearches.
http://www.ops-equipement.com/images_ops/articles/286.jpg
Hispeed1
02-13-2009, 08:50 PM
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g246/Hispeed217/Gear/733tgloves.jpg
(I honestly prefer the old flight gloves for shooting)
Laconian
02-13-2009, 08:54 PM
I've got a pair of the Wiley-X gloves that look like the Hatch with the plastic knuckles. Nice so far in my T&E, but they are not seeing hard field use.
+MEDIC+
03-27-2009, 03:20 PM
We got plenty of Mechanix Gloves at our store sn we sell them really a lot. They are a uprising product on the european market and we sell a lot of them to german paratroopers... i got three pairs by my own and curious for the models coming out next month.
+MEDIC+
PS: Take a look at my PMC Reenactment Album....there you will see the M-Pact...
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21sinotec
06-16-2009, 10:07 PM
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numquam retro
06-23-2009, 01:59 PM
hello everybody!
does anyone recognize this gloves?
thanks in advance...
tango44
06-23-2009, 03:01 PM
hello everybody!
does anyone recognize this gloves?
thanks in advance...
IRONCLAD GLOVES:
https://www.ironclad.com/www/index.jsp
numquam retro
06-23-2009, 04:16 PM
IRONCLAD GLOVES:
https://www.ironclad.com/www/index.jsp
thanks alot tango!
tango44
06-23-2009, 07:19 PM
You are welcome mate!
socom-lv
08-31-2009, 09:12 AM
plz help indificate gloves
thank's
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1589/14dlg8i.jpg
ShadowKnows
09-01-2009, 12:20 PM
I`ve gone through 2 pairs of O & 2 300 Hacth I also have USMC New Camelbak gloves MXO4-09-DAFAR .
Now For the USMC Camelbak they make 2 types one for the Corps and other for S.F. in Coyote Brown.
The USMC Issue has the USMC Frog EGA stamped on the wrist sleeve.
Christophe
09-01-2009, 05:54 PM
[QUOTE=socom-lv;4377674]plz help indificate gloves
thank's
I'd guess the brand is Blackhawk.
I have these gloves as a gift from a friend of mine,very comfortable.
iam thinking to buy one of these, and experience / suggestions?
Ironclad Framer or Ironclad Tac-Ops
http://eliteperformancesupply.com/coreline/framerlarge.jpg
http://images.hayneedle.com/mgen/digimarc.ms?img=master:BLD022.jpg&h=368&w=368
and i only want to use it for in and outdoor shooting under normal conditions
https://www.ironclad.com/www/productDetail.jsp?prodID=123&catID=43
https://www.ironclad.com/www/productDetail.jsp?prodID=61&catID=43
athrun1211
09-19-2009, 11:54 AM
Hey guys,i want to buy a pair of tactics gloves.Can you guys give me some suggestions:roll:?How about the OAKLEY gloves?
Hey guys,i want to buy a pair of tactics gloves.Can you guys give me some suggestions:roll:?How about the OAKLEY gloves?
In here:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62270
Roy Batty
09-19-2009, 02:40 PM
Mechanix Vents. I wore them for 10 months is A'Stan and loved them........
SE7ENSIX
09-19-2009, 03:45 PM
I wore a pair of black batting gloves. Thin, light, comfy and they worked well. Plus I got to sport a big Nike swoosh
athrun1211
09-20-2009, 12:09 AM
In here:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62270
thanks mate
athrun1211
09-20-2009, 12:10 AM
Mechanix Vents. I wore them for 10 months is A'Stan and loved them........
i have heared about Mechanix is very good,i will try them.
athrun1211
09-20-2009, 12:17 AM
I wore a pair of black batting gloves. Thin, light, comfy and they worked well. Plus I got to sport a big Nike swoosh
so you are a soldier?what kind unit?:)
SE7ENSIX
09-20-2009, 01:57 AM
so you are a soldier?what kind unit?:)
Yessum, I'm a soldier. Infantry, deployed to A-stan as an infantry soldier with an infantry battle group. Hope that's not a sarcastic smiley face
athrun1211
09-20-2009, 02:10 AM
Yessum, I'm a soldier. Infantry, deployed to A-stan as an infantry soldier with an infantry battle group. Hope that's not a sarcastic smiley face
you will be ok,just do everything carefully.i am a chinese guy,so do you use msn?may i can add you as my friend and want to know something about you army life.
SE7ENSIX
09-20-2009, 02:17 AM
you will be ok,just do everything carefully.i am a chinese guy,so do you use msn?may i can add you as my friend and want to know something about you army life.
No no, I'm not deployed right now, I was deployed before. That was when I used the gloves. You can add me if you want, I'm not sure how much help I can be though, I'm Canadian Forces, but feel free to ask. Just pm me or something
athrun1211
09-20-2009, 02:21 AM
No no, I'm not deployed right now, I was deployed before. That was when I used the gloves. You can add me if you want, I'm not sure how much help I can be though, I'm Canadian Forces, but feel free to ask. Just pm me or something
OK,i will add you,i will send you a message.
Canadian Bommer
09-22-2009, 07:31 PM
Okley is the way to go, I just got a set for my deployment, I have wrecked my knuckels too many times to count, and now I don't need my brass knuckels any more, lol not kidding. But have a set of mechanic gloves on stand buy.
athrun1211
09-23-2009, 04:59 AM
Okley is the way to go, I just got a set for my deployment, I have wrecked my knuckels too many times to count, and now I don't need my brass knuckels any more, lol not kidding. But have a set of mechanic gloves on stand buy.
ok,I gotta it,thanks mate
Roy Batty
09-23-2009, 06:51 AM
I burned through so much Gucci (5.11, Converse, Oakley......) kit last tour I just stopped trusting it. Stay simple. Mechanix gloves are 1/4 of the price and last twice as long.....
Frens
09-23-2009, 06:59 AM
I burned through so much Gucci (5.11, Converse, Oakley......) kit last tour I just stopped trusting it. Stay simple. Mechanix gloves are 1/4 of the price and last twice as long.....
+1
if you're .mil I dont see the reason to spend big money on gloves, googles or glasses....they're going to be literally destroyed anyway.
better stay simple and buy multiple sets of cheaper (but good!) stuff like the good old nomex gloves.
lukipsc
10-01-2009, 05:41 AM
Which experience do you have with Mechanix Wear gloves, model Original with protection over sharp thinks, puncture protection? Thank you for answer.
Sanjeger
10-04-2009, 09:21 AM
Just got some Hatch X11 gloves for my job as a bouncer. Feels good, looks good. Just hope they work good :)
KilledByAGirl
10-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Can anyone recommend a glove that have protection at the middle joint on the fingers? Most gloves omit protection there to bend your fingers more easily. Price range of ≤$50
I know the Ironclad Super Duty gloves have the entire back of each finger protected, but I'd rather not have the yellow on my gloves. Also, I know the Camelbak Magnum Force gloves have protection there too, but they are expensive. I had ordered them from Botach for a good price, but I never received them.
Roy Batty
10-04-2009, 12:03 PM
Can anyone recommend a glove that have protection at the middle joint on the fingers? Most gloves omit protection there to bend your fingers more easily. Price range of ≤$50
I know the Ironclad Super Duty gloves have the entire back of each finger protected, but I'd rather not have the yellow on my gloves. Also, I know the Camelbak Magnum Force gloves have protection there too, but they are expensive. I had ordered them from Botach for a good price, but I never received them.
http://www.mechanix.com/tactical/m-pact-2-covert-glove
http://www.mechanix.com/tactical/m-pact-coyote-glove
......and Botach are renowned thieves. Lots of folks have paid for stuff that never arrived. I avoid them like the plague.
KilledByAGirl
10-04-2009, 12:24 PM
Thanks! I dont know how I never saw those on their website.
Re: Botach - Yes, after I ordered from them the first time, I saw all of the terrible reviews, and was so nervous, but thankfully, I received the order (~$200 worth), but I was not so lucky the second time.
Oh, and if a glove like I described above exists with a long cuff, that would be even better.
goose36
11-07-2009, 04:44 PM
i still run issue nomex, i get about a year out of each pair, cant go wrong!
Andreas
11-27-2009, 11:20 AM
http://www.mechanix.com/tactical/m-pact-2-covert-glove
http://www.mechanix.com/tactical/m-pact-coyote-glove
......and Botach are renowned thieves. Lots of folks have paid for stuff that never arrived. I avoid them like the plague.
I bought a pair of these on eBay for mild weather ****ing around, shooting and such. But when it gets really cold im relying on the standard issued mittens.
http://www.mechanix.com/the-original-covert-glove
yan2xng
12-07-2009, 11:53 PM
blackhawk fury w/ nomex for me, really comfortable, bit pricey though
samurai-x
12-14-2009, 05:46 PM
hi im looking at getting some underarmour gloves does anyone know more about them or how well they perform thankyou
JC0352
12-14-2009, 05:48 PM
hi im looking at getting some underarmour gloves does anyone know more about them or how well they perform thankyou
It helps if you elaborate a bit. What do you plan to use them for, and under what conditions (weather, etc..)?
samurai-x
12-14-2009, 05:53 PM
It helps if you elaborate a bit. What do you plan to use them for, and under what conditions (weather, etc..)?
well at the moment it would be to protect my hands while camping and jumping around a farm (dont ask) but next year ill be going to oman so theyll need to protect them from not only sun but general wear and tear in desert/mountanious terrain
JC0352
12-14-2009, 06:00 PM
well at the moment it would be to protect my hands while camping and jumping around a farm (dont ask) but next year ill be going to oman so theyll need to protect them from not only sun but general wear and tear in desert/mountanious terrain
I don't know which of their gloves would suit that best. Personally, I've had bad experience with UA, and I think their quality control is severely lacking. I had a pair of football receiver gloves that fell apart in less than one season of flag football, and several pairs of their gym shorts that just fell apart way too easily.
These would probably suit your needs just fine:
http://www.mechanix.com/the-original-glove
I have some of these and I use them to work on my dirt bike, loading firewood, hunting, and I played paintball with them in college. I've had them for about 5 years and they're in good shape still.
samurai-x
12-14-2009, 06:02 PM
I don't know which of their gloves would suit that best. Personally I've had bad experience with UA, and I think their quality control is severely lacking.
These would probably suit your needs just fine:
http://www.mechanix.com/the-original-glove
thankyou for that its helpful to know what other peoples experiances are and those mechanix gloves do look good so thankyou for your help
Roy Batty
12-14-2009, 06:05 PM
I wore the Mechanix Vents through a 10 month tour in A'stan. I love those gloves.......
JC0352
12-14-2009, 06:08 PM
This guy that rides motocross with us sometimes wears those oakley tactical gloves; makes me wonder if he plays airsoft.p-)
hi im looking at getting some underarmour gloves does anyone know more about them or how well they perform thankyou
Under Armour has quite a few different pairs of gloves on the market.
I use these ones for PT an walking around, an they are excellent gloves for that. But I wouldn't use them for any actual work/field use.
http://images.smarter.com/300x300x15/35/00/1740300.jpg
Bacon
12-14-2009, 07:44 PM
This guy that rides motocross with us sometimes wears those oakley tactical gloves; makes me wonder if he plays airsoft.p-)
Those gloves were originally designed for mountain bikers.
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