Assassinations Tear Into Iraq's Educated Class

[Skaman]

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/international/middleeast/07ASSA.html?ex=1076734800&en=f2848e5dfb0a2326&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[MetalBoy]

****ing disgusting cowardly pieces of ****. That just goes to show how those thugs know they are on the wrong side, because for them to win they must sow the seeds of ignorance.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Interesting strategy, but doomed to fail.

The insurgents are mostly Baath-Socialist party dead-enders with a sprinkling of Islamic religious fanatics. They know that most Iraqi's will be happy to have any kind of stability, which is why the insurgents are attacking the Iraqi's who are rebuilding.

Anywhere in the world, the masses will be content with having a job, beer in the refrigerator, and a ball game on television. When their simple needs are being met, then they become apathetic about politics.

These Baath party thugs know that their insurgency will be doomed if things are stabilized and the people get comfortable.

[Uninen]

Theres also the possibility that some of the assassinations are in fact US black ops.. much like in Vietnam, to make Iraq dependent on US..

So that they would need / want your strategic bases there etc, even long after conflict there has ended..

:roll:

[wholagun]

Interesting strategy, but doomed to fail.

Well the Nazi's (Russians to a smaller extent) did the same to the Poles in WW2. It takes away someone to rally the people and provide leadership in an otherwise chaotic situation; not to mention an educated voice of reason.

[MetalBoy]

rofl Uninen, you're a great comedian. Unless you're not joking... :|

[Uninen]

:|

Well,

In Nam they did kill enemies and 'friendlies' alike in the black ops..

So why not in Iraq?

[Sixgun Symphony]

:|

Well,

In Nam they did kill enemies and 'friendlies' alike in the black ops..

So why not in Iraq?

To what gain?

If so called "friendlies" were corrupt and an impedement to victory, then of course they need to be purged. But when you have productive people on your side it does not make sense.

[Uninen]

In Nam they killed 'friendlies', inluding South Vietnamise officials to blame those on VC, in effort to make them lose support of the population..

This is known fact today, but of Iraq, we can only guess..

Just said that it is a possibility..

[Sixgun Symphony]

In Nam they killed 'friendlies', inluding South Vietnamise officials to blame those on VC, in effort to make them lose support of the population..


Now that is right up there with UFO's and Elvis sightings.

[Uninen]

http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

Operation Phoenix

Vietnam, 75 Counter-spy magazine describes Phoenix Program as "the most indiscriminate and massive program of political murder since the nazi death camps of world war two." Counterspy spring/summer 75 6.

Vietnam, in 82 Ex-Phoenix operative reveals that sometimes orders were given to kill U.S. military personnel who were considered security risks. He suspects the orders came not from "division", but from a higher authority such as the CIA or the ONI. Covert Action Information Bulletin (now Covert Action Quarterly) summer 82 52.

Vietnam. Phoenix Program to neutralize VCI (tax collectors, supply officers, political cadre, local military officials, etc). Plan to send pru or police teams to get in practice, death the frequent result of such ops, some times through assassinations pure and simple. Powers, T. (1979), The Man Who Kept the Secret, 181.

:roll:

**** like this and worse..

Directly from Apocalypse Now, yet so very real..

:|

[Royal]

Interesting strategy, but doomed to fail.

Standard revolutionary warfare tactic. Seems to have worked rather well in almost every revolutionary campaign in the last 100 odd years


The insurgents are mostly Baath-Socialist party dead-enders with a sprinkling of Islamic religious fanatics.

Been there recently? Seen the transcripts of any interrogations? IntReps?


Anywhere in the world, the masses will be content with having a job, beer in the refrigerator, and a ball game on television. When their simple needs are being met, then they become apathetic about politics.

Seems to be true in the US. An Iraqi team in the world series anyone?

[Sixgun Symphony]

Your source is a commie website. That don't count for nothing.

Phoenix Program? They killed communists in a war against communism. That is a good thing, though alot of you pinkos might not agree





http://www.serendipity.li/cia/operation_phoenix.htm

Operation Phoenix

Vietnam, 75 Counter-spy magazine describes Phoenix Program as "the most indiscriminate and massive program of political murder since the nazi death camps of world war two." Counterspy spring/summer 75 6.

Vietnam, in 82 Ex-Phoenix operative reveals that sometimes orders were given to kill U.S. military personnel who were considered security risks. He suspects the orders came not from "division", but from a higher authority such as the CIA or the ONI. Covert Action Information Bulletin (now Covert Action Quarterly) summer 82 52.

Vietnam. Phoenix Program to neutralize VCI (tax collectors, supply officers, political cadre, local military officials, etc). Plan to send pru or police teams to get in practice, death the frequent result of such ops, some times through assassinations pure and simple. Powers, T. (1979), The Man Who Kept the Secret, 181.

:roll:

**** like this and worse..

Directly from Apocalypse Now, yet so very real..

:|

[Sixgun Symphony]

Royal,

You fail to see the point. The revolutionaries do want to disrupt things, they know they can't have a revolution when everything is stable. That is my point, get things stable and the 'dead enders" will not have a popular base to support them.

The word I have on the insurgents is second hand, but maybe you are in on these interrogations?

[Falco]

It's really a shame :(

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Royal,

You fail to see the point. The revolutionaries do want to disrupt things, they know they can't have a revolution when everything is stable. That is my point, get things stable and the 'dead enders" will not have a popular base to support them.

The word I have on the insurgents is second hand, but maybe you are in on these interrogations?

Things are as unstable now as they will ever be, they only have now and the point at which Iraq is handed back to iraqis to use instability to start a revolution, the dumbass thing is no matter how unstable a revolution is impossible while Iraq is being watched by the west which will be for decades.

[One?]

f*** disgusting cowardly pieces of ****. That just goes to show how those thugs know they are on the wrong side, because for them to win they must sow the seeds of ignorance.

who would be interested in killing scientists, physicts, nuclear engineers, etc.... :roll:

I don't think any iraqi would want to kill those people.