President ready to fight US [Archive]

LaoSexMachine

11-22-2005, 05:49 PM

President ready to fight US
The Venezuelan president also stepped up his rhetoric against the United States, saying he was prepared to flee to the mountains to help Venezuelans fight a guerrilla war against a possible US invasion, while defending his decision to purchase 100,000 Russian-built Kalashnikov rifles.
The Bush administration denies backing a plot against Chavez, though US officials last week accused him of endangering Venezuelan democracy by assuming ever-greater powers.
Kirchner's visit is likely to be seen as a sign of support for Chavez, who has helped Argentina through financial and oil deals.
Venezuela has bought $950 million this year in Argentine bonds in what Chavez has called a step toward creating a so-called Bank of the South to help provide financing to the region. Chavez said he would talk with Kirchner about buying more Argentine debt.
"The Caracas-Buenos Aires link is growing stronger," said Chavez, calling Kirchner "a good friend."

http://gulfnews.com/Articles/WorldNF.asp?ArticleID=194012

PeterG

11-22-2005, 05:54 PM

Chavez must have run out of prozac a good while ago now. What a nutter!

Lefty

11-22-2005, 05:58 PM

I really hope the people of Venezuela are saying this with me....

WTF Chavez!?!?!

Beppo

11-22-2005, 05:58 PM

Making a false case for war? Defending war expenditures by claiming an imminent threat? Hmm...

BloodyTalon

11-22-2005, 06:46 PM

LOL I just have a couple questions for Mr. Chavez:

1. What's his proof that the US is going to invade Venezuala?

2. Why do think we would want to invade your country in the first place?

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 06:49 PM

LOL I just have a couple questions for Mr. Chavez:

1. What's his proof that the US is going to invade Venezuala?

2. Why do think we would want to invade your country in the first place?

2. Oil

That's our MO these days. In case you didn't notice we only went to Iraq to get oil which is why I'm still paying 3.00$ a gallon at the pumps.

California Joe

11-22-2005, 06:54 PM

What a f*cking clown this guy is. Maybe someone ought to tell him he needs to knock over a fruit stand, or strongarm some pimps or something to make his bones. Then he can be considered a 7th level axis of evil member worthy of invasion. My mother in law needs an invasion worse than this ****. p-)

BloodyTalon

11-22-2005, 06:54 PM

2. Oil

That's our MO these days. In case you didn't notice we only went to Iraq to get oil which is why I'm still paying 3.00$ a gallon at the pumps.
Actually, even with oil in the equation we don't need to go to war with Venezuala. We already get oil from that country, and although Chavez is crazy, he's not an idiot. He'd never risk cutting us off from his oil.

SGMGSG9

11-22-2005, 07:02 PM

The Venezuelan president needs to S.T.F.U. and recognize....... This is the same taunting shiznet that got Hussein @ his Crew visited in the middle of the night. "If you bullS-hit to much some one will call your bluff."

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 07:03 PM

Actually, even with oil in the equation we don't need to go to war with Venezuala. We already get oil from that country, and although Chavez is crazy, he's not an idiot. He'd never risk cutting us off from his oil.

Hence the sarcasm in my post.

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 07:04 PM

My mother in law needs an invasion worse than this ****. p-)

hahahahaha

SeanAshi

11-22-2005, 07:07 PM

Must be Castros influence, he's paranoid as hell. He needs some antipsychotic medication.

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 07:08 PM

I enjoyed when he threatened to sell F-16As to China or Cuba. Like we would really give a flying ****.

LaoSexMachine

11-22-2005, 07:10 PM

I enjoyed when he threatened to sell F-16As to China or Cuba. Like we would really give a flying ****.

China has the J10 derived from an F16

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 07:12 PM

China has the J10 derived from an F16
I know. They had that pakistani F16 to work from and likely technology from Israel's Lavi program.

SeanAshi

11-22-2005, 07:17 PM

I enjoyed when he threatened to sell F-16As to China or Cuba. Like we would really give a flying ****.
And we could sell some bad ass **** to Colombia so they could kick some leftest ass.

HoboWithAK

11-22-2005, 07:22 PM

Invade Venizuela? When I can't spell the name of a country off the top of my head it can probably be taken care of by a SAG with a few TLAMs

chauncy republicans

11-22-2005, 07:34 PM

Making a false case for war? Defending war expenditures by claiming an imminent threat? Hmm...
Sounds familiar does'nt it?

AmericanImperialist

11-22-2005, 09:11 PM

Sounds familiar does'nt it?
It "does'nt" sound familiar to me.

Lt-Col A. Tack

11-22-2005, 09:29 PM

President ready to fight US
The Venezuelan president also stepped up his rhetoric against the United States, saying he was prepared to flee to the mountains...
So that's his defensive strategy...run for the hills!

Brave Guy.

Alphonse

11-22-2005, 09:58 PM

And he's saying it like it's some sort of great sacrifice..

Flee to the mountains..

ROFL.

Uncle Sam

11-22-2005, 10:00 PM

Like a little kid throwing a tantrum.

Rifleman

11-22-2005, 11:21 PM

He should hook up with Bagdad Bob.

Omaha

11-22-2005, 11:25 PM

It just gets better and better every week. Like a new show on Fox.... rofl

.666 Caliber

11-22-2005, 11:54 PM

What happens if the oil is cut off? I smell invasion......its not that serious ....or is it? Dum dum dummmmmm! LOL

SerbPVO

11-22-2005, 11:57 PM

If I was Chavez, i'd buy a Kalash for every member of population.

khukuri

11-23-2005, 12:39 AM

If I was Chavez, i'd buy a Kalash for every member of population.

Thats whats he want to do. Which rumsfeld critisizied

Limeyfellow

11-23-2005, 12:59 AM

He seems too busy selling heating fuel to poor americans for 40% below the market price and offering free eye surgery for americans if you go to the Venezulan embassy for those who can't afford it. The bastard. He is costing us lots of profit.

KEEPER0311

11-23-2005, 01:49 AM

This guy need to take a step back, take his prescribed medication. And calm down. For some reason, i see venezula invading one of its nieghbors fairly soon...probally under some fake banner of American Imperialism of some BUll like that.

2Sheds_Jackson

11-23-2005, 02:46 AM

So what is this guy after? We all know the silly anti-US ranting is just a means to an end. He's gonna try to justify some outlandish power grab by saying it's a national security measure. Is Venezuelan oil under state control? If not, it soon will be. I should really read up on this clown - he's prepping his populace for something - but what? The brilliance of his strategy is that when he does grab the oil from the people, the UN will send, guess who?...and of course it will appear to justify what he's been saying all along.

KEEPER0311

11-23-2005, 02:52 AM

JQ24

11-23-2005, 03:03 AM

What the hell got him started with his anti-US attitude?

KEEPER0311

11-23-2005, 03:11 AM

What the hell got him started with his anti-US attitude?
i believe it was the US objection of his purchase of 100,000 AK's...

sp2c

11-23-2005, 06:19 AM

LOL I just have a couple questions for Mr. Chavez:

1. What's his proof that the US is going to invade Venezuala?

probably the brown stuff in his underwear when USS Bataan visited the Netherlands Antilles

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/08/mil-050824-nns04.htm

joedirt

11-23-2005, 10:04 AM

I think his fear stems from the history of Mohammed Mossadegh being deposed in Iran by British and American intelligence agencys, Salvador Allende in Chile being taken down by a American supported coup, the cia coup in Guatamala in 1954, the cia's attempts to remove castro, and Chavez's own experience with a coup that possibly had american approval if not support thus he is a bit paranoid.

vryhpyammoadded

11-23-2005, 10:06 AM

LOL, last week the Burmese government, now Chavez heads for the hills.

LaoSexMachine

11-23-2005, 11:58 AM

What the hell got him started with his anti-US attitude?

The April 11, 2002 military coup in Venezuela, He believes the Bush Admin. had a hand in it. I'm no Chavez fan or BUsh basher, but even though US didn't have a hand in it they sure did nothing to condemn it. Ever since he's been paranoid.

.666 Caliber

11-23-2005, 02:20 PM

Do we actually have the right to invade the country if they cut off the oil we get. I mean it is their oil. Just a question. I'm curious. Or does it not belong to them directly? Im not saying anything Im just asking a question.

joedirt

11-23-2005, 02:20 PM

well i suspect that the coup while not orchestrated by america like the ones in the past where i have little doubt that america did probably know about it or was in contact with elements who where involved. also right after the coup took place the american position very early on was in support of the coup.

Atlantic Friend

11-23-2005, 03:32 PM

Making a false case for war? Defending war expenditures by claiming an imminent threat? Hmm...

Chavez is probably scoring easy political points by cashing in on the anti-yanqui sentiment that is rampant in South America. On the one hand he agrees to sell cheap oil to the US to heat the poor, on the other he says "oh, look I'm the new Bolivar, I'm the new Che Guevara, I stand up to that horrible Boosh yanqui who wants nothing more than to invade you".

Digital Marine

11-23-2005, 03:34 PM

So..... do i smell a war coming up?

AmericanImperialist

11-23-2005, 03:35 PM

Chavez is probably scoring easy political points by cashing in on the anti-yanqui sentiment that is rampant in South America, probably. On the one hand he agrees to sell cheap oil to the US to heat the poor, on the other he says "oh, look I'm the new Bolivar, I'm the new Che Guevara, I stand up to that horrible Boosh yanqui who wants nothing more than to invade you".

well put, this is all just posturing which is likely why the US hasn't payed much attention to him lately

Atlantic Friend

11-23-2005, 03:44 PM

So..... do i smell a war coming up?

Er, no, most probably you don't. "Hugo and the Chavettes" are just playing the immortal hit "Oh those naughty yanquis" (number one in Latin America, and definitely in the Top Ten in Europe) to the Venezuelan audience.

In the official portraits, he will move his chin more martially to look more like a great leader, and he'll use the excuse of an impending US invasion to step up action against his opposition, who will be branded as being in the CIA's payroll.

Rifleman

11-24-2005, 08:14 AM

The April 11, 2002 military coup in Venezuela, He believes the Bush Admin. had a hand in it. I'm no Chavez fan or BUsh basher, but even though US didn't have a hand in it they sure did nothing to condemn it. Ever since he's been paranoid.

IIRC the U.S. quickly recognized those who lead the coup as the official Government of Venezuela. I think a popular uprising brought down the new gov in a day or two and put Chavez back in. Sooo, I would say we (The U.S.) probably had a little something to do with it.

Our intelligence has been performing rather well lately. (in foxhole now)

khukuri

11-24-2005, 09:38 AM

IIRC the U.S. quickly recognized those who lead the coup as the official Government of Venezuela. I think a popular uprising brought down the new gov in a day or two and put Chavez back in. Sooo, I would say we (The U.S.) probably had a little something to do with it.

Our intelligence has been performing rather well lately. (in foxhole now)

And historically the USA have been supporting the Latin American rightwing overclass, and "unholy" coups. Taking into acount whos governing america now it wouldnt be surprising tha the US knew it. But I think this time the venezuelans did it entire themselves without the direct aid of USA.

AmericanImperialist

11-24-2005, 10:46 AM

IIRC the U.S. quickly recognized those who lead the coup as the official Government of Venezuela. I think a popular uprising brought down the new gov in a day or two and put Chavez back in. Sooo, I would say we (The U.S.) probably had a little something to do with it.

Our intelligence has been performing rather well lately. (in foxhole now)

Just because the US would have rather had that government in power than Chavez's is hardly an implication of involvement in the coup.

stonecutter

11-24-2005, 10:55 AM

Just because the US would have rather had that government in power than Chavez's is hardly an implication of involvement in the coup.

Yes, but if I'm not mistaken, Venezuela (like Iraq) switched over from the U.S. dollar standard to the Euro for its oil transactions. This alone would be enough for the U.S. to try to effect a "regime change" there, just like they did in Iraq. The difference is, the Iraqi switchover to the Euro had much graver consequences to the American economy, whereas a Venezuelan switchover, not as much. Perhaps the difference is between an all-out invasion, and a hand in a coup?