No Russian Plans to Nuke Poland.

[wholagun]

RUSSIA DOES NOT PLAN TO TARGET STRATEGIC NUCLEAR MISSILES AT POLAND


MOSCOW, February 10 (RIA Novosti). Russia does not plan to target its strategic nuclear missiles at any country, said Yuri Baluyevsky, first chief of the Russian General Staff. "We have no intention or goal to target strategic missiles at Poland in connection with the potential appearance of NATO bases in its territory," said the general.


"Moreover, today Russian and US strategic missiles have no flight tasks" and "we have no intention to feed new flight tasks into them. ...Besides, the technical characteristics of ballistic missiles are not suited for a strike at Poland, as only a missile that will circle the Globe can do it and there are no such missiles yet."



http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=3910869&startrow=41&date=2004-02-10&do_alert=0 russian news

Um well aaaahhhhh.. gee thanks, I guess? That was a wierd article, short and breif and about a dumb topic. Meh (shrug), posted it for the Russian and Polish guys on this forum. Maybe you Russian guys could explain why such a thing would be in the news? Seems like a dumb news story to me.

[RuSoKaR]

rofl
Poland is a part of NATO, it's just for the polish folks so they willl not worry about :-*$

[Russian Texan]

There was a press-conference dedicated to the ongoing russian nuclear forces exercise and one of the journalists asked a question about Poland/NATO. The paragraph above was the answer to that question.

Also in case of a conflict with Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. it makes much sense to use tactical nukes. "The good stuff" should be reserved for countries like China and US. :)

[wholagun]

rofl
Poland is a part of NATO, it's just for the polish folks so they willl not worry about :-*$


well the reason we joined NATO is so we do not have to worry. Im not worried at all. For now.

[wholagun]

There was a press-conference dedicated to the ongoing russian nuclear forces exercise and one of the journalists asked a question about Poland/NATO. The paragraph above was the answer to that question.

Also in case of a conflict with Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. it makes much sense to use tactical nukes. "The good stuff" should be reserved for countries like China and US. :)

Yeah im not worried about Russia, Russia should be worried about expanding China in the East. I cann't help but think of LOTR but you have Moscow which is like a huge eye not as strong as it use to be but getting stronger. However the eye is busy looking at the East taking pressure off the west.

[Russian Texan]

Dude, you are way too deep into LOTR :lol:

[wholagun]

Dude, you are way too deep into LOTR :lol:

:D What does the eye command.

[serbian boy]

The polish are traitors to the eastern european cause!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fork:
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fork:

[stuntman]

Wow russia finally made a good move! I guess they like life. Any way how do russians feel about Chinas growing power?

[wholagun]

The polish are traitors to the eastern european cause!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fork:
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fork:


:cantbeli: wait, I gotta read that again to see if I read what I actually read, hold on...... yup :cantbeli:
What? Dude what are you talking about? What cause and how are we traitors? Just cause we're more developed and got better economy and standard of living then most other Eastern Europeans does not make us traitors to *cough* eastern european cause. If we're traitors then so is Czech Rep, Hungry, Sovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia.
Please tell me your joking.

BTW I like your avatar where did you get it?

[GazB]

Wow russia finally made a good move! I guess they like life. Any way how do russians feel about Chinas growing power?


Hahahaha... a "good move"?

Sorry but since the end of the cold war it has been polticially correct for Russia and US to not target each other with long range missiles. The fact that it would take a few seconds to retarget them is ignored. In this case they even point out that Poland is not far enough away to warrant ICBMs targetting it and tactical nukes would be more likely used if needed.


Regarding China's growing power most of the weapon systems and technology it is buying is Russian... and they like the business. There is some hesitation... for example work on the Su-30MKK for China has lead to the Su-27SM upgrade for Russian aircraft. The Russians still won't sell the Chinese their absolute best stuff like Mig-31Ms or Su-34 strike aircraft. Nor for that matter the Tu-22M3.

[wholagun]

In this case they even point out that Poland is not far enough away to warrant ICBMs targetting it and tactical nukes would be more likely used if needed.



ah damn it, why the heck does every fricken war have to be fought in our backyard. Damn it, go find somewhere else. Siberia is big ain't it, go there. Seems like every war has to go through Poland jeez ppl. Why would you want to target Poland? What did we ever do.. :petting:

[Russian Texan]

Sorry man, you know - location, location, location.... :)

On a serious note, I definitely can forsee some future "disturbance" between Russia and China. China is growing, it needs "food" - natural resources and living space for its ever increasing population.
Right now Russia needs money and unfortunatelly would sell pretty much anything if the price is right but I am afraid that sometime in the future it might backfire.
There are only two comforting thoughts about this situation:

#1 Russia's WMD arsenal and means of its delivery

#2 China's poor record in reverse engineering and inability to invent/develop anything on their own.

I can't imagine a scenario when US and Russia will have to settle their differences with arms, but China is completely different ball game and mentality...

[wholagun]

Sorry man, you know - location, location, location.... :)

On a serious note, I definitely can forsee some future "disturbance" between Russia and China. China is growing, it needs "food" - natural resources and living space for its ever increasing population.
Right now Russia needs money and unfortunatelly would sell pretty much anything if the price is right but I am afraid that sometime in the future it might backfire.
There are only two comforting thoughts about this situation:

#1 Russia's WMD arsenal and means of its delivery

#2 China's poor record in reverse engineering and inability to invent/develop anything on their own.

I can't imagine a scenario when US and Russia will have to settle their differences with arms, but China is completely different ball game and mentality...

Silent sigh of relief (hoping Russian forumers don't hear or see it)... Phew, that takes pressure off Western border.
Something may happen with China and Russia. Russia has Siberia which has yet to be expoited, and you said it China needs resources and living space.

[Herrmannek]

RUSSIA DOES NOT PLAN TO TARGET STRATEGIC NUCLEAR MISSILES AT POLAND


MOSCOW, February 10 (RIA Novosti). Russia does not plan to target its strategic nuclear missiles at any country, said Yuri Baluyevsky, first chief of the Russian General Staff. "We have no intention or goal to target strategic missiles at Poland in connection with the potential appearance of NATO bases in its territory," said the general.


"Moreover, today Russian and US strategic missiles have no flight tasks" and "we have no intention to feed new flight tasks into them. ...Besides, the technical characteristics of ballistic missiles are not suited for a strike at Poland, as only a missile that will circle the Globe can do it and there are no such missiles yet."




I'm surre that programing raw missiles to hit Poland doesn't take more time than one minute, so all that talking is only PR and is meaningless.

[Nizark]

Anyone know when the Russian nuclear excersise is gonna happen?

[tony6]

I'm surre that programing raw missiles to hit Poland doesn't take more time than one minute, so all that talking is only PR and is meaningless.
Bingo!

[wholagun]

I'm surre that programing raw missiles to hit Poland doesn't take more time than one minute, so all that talking is only PR and is meaningless.
Bingo!

give me a break they wouldn't program an actual missile they'd drop a nuke no lauch one at us :D

Besides I doubt Russia wants to really nuke us.

[Tengu]

Ok good thing they decided not to nuke poland :| .

Otherwise i would never be able to find out what my polisch (last)name means; Szrek.

[wholagun]

Ok good thing they decided not to nuke poland :| .

Otherwise i would never be able to find out what my polisch (last)name means; Szrek.

no need to go to Poland I can tell you (at least I think I can). Its prounounced the same as: shrek. :D

http://www.imageshack.us/files/shrek.jpg

[Kingpin]

rofl
Poland is a part of NATO, it's just for the polish folks so they willl not worry about :-*$
well the reason we joined NATO is so we do not have to worry. Im not worried at all. For now.

Зррряяяя! rofl
Finland also received a lot of support from western countries before and during winter war. This didn't stop Soviet Union.

[Rantanplan]

Well, if we consider the unlucky polish history and status in the russian armed forces we can make a realistic war scenario.

1. China attacks russia

2. Russia orders to nuke China

3. The drunken russian rednecks forget to reprogram the missiles and nuke accidentaly poland

4. The moderat westen polititians have insight for russia and don't start a counter attack.

5. China overruns siberia and poland ceased to exist

[Tengu]

no need to go to Poland I can tell you (at least I think I can). Its prounounced the same as: shrek. :D
Yes i know its ****ounced the same :D . No relations btw ;)
But most names have a meaning and i can't find out what it is here in belgium.

[Herrmannek]

I didn't said Russia want to nuke us or anybody else now. But if she does she can do that from scrach in less than one minute...

Kingpin said he was trained as oparator of ICBM's missiles, he can probably tell us more about how much time Poles have to find shelter from decission about nuking Poland :)

[Herrmannek]

no need to go to Poland I can tell you (at least I think I can). Its prounounced the same as: shrek. :D
Yes i know its ****ounced the same :D . No relations btw ;)
But most names have a meaning and i can't find out what it is here in belgium.

I think it has german origins, because there is no polish word Szrek. My own surname is wariation about german surname Herman with means something like "armed man" or "man with a spear".....

[Kingpin]

I didn't said Russia want to nuke us or anybody else now. But if she does she can do that from scrach in less than one minute...

Kingpin said he was trained as oparator of ICBM's missiles, he can probably tell us more about how much time Poles have to find shelter from decission about nuking Poland :)

Too close to our borders. Plus west winds. I don't think we will nuke Poland anyway with or without NATO. Only if we'll be attacked by NATO from Poland territory.

And tactical nukes more suitable for you. So this question is not for me. :)

[perdurabo]

I didn't said Russia want to nuke us or anybody else now. But if she does she can do that from scrach in less than one minute...

Kingpin said he was trained as oparator of ICBM's missiles, he can probably tell us more about how much time Poles have to find shelter from decission about nuking Poland :)

Too close to our borders. Plus west winds. I don't think we will nuke Poland anyway with or without NATO. Only if we'll be attacked by NATO from Poland territory.

And tactical nukes more suitable for you. So this question is not for me. :)
yep russia have enough conventional wepons to kill us 10 times :)

[serbian boy]

Wholagun,
The polish are traitors to the eastern european cause!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha HA man I just crack myself up sometimes.
But really why wouldn't Poland help other Eatern European neighbours, of there so rich and developed? And any way there is no need for NATO, Cold War over, Germany wants out, France wants out. Come on, really, Eastern Europe needs it's countries to unite in an economical and military union to stop drugs,corruption,terrosrists and criminals in eastern europe.
Wouldn't that be sweeeet!!!!!! :lol:

[usa320]

No Russian Plans to Nuke Poland.

We cant all rest easier now.

:hug:

[wholagun]

Wholagun,
The polish are traitors to the eastern european cause!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NUKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha HA man I just crack myself up sometimes.
But really why wouldn't Poland help other Eatern European neighbours, of there so rich and developed? And any way there is no need for NATO, Cold War over, Germany wants out, France wants out. Come on, really, Eastern Europe needs it's countries to unite in an economical and military union to stop drugs,corruption,terrosrists and criminals in eastern europe.
Wouldn't that be sweeeet!!!!!! :lol:

Eastern Europe is decades behind the EU, countries like Serbia and Romania, Ukraine etc still have bad laws in place and economies are not as developed, democracy is still very young and politics are unstable for such a project. It would be too hard if not impossible to create something like the EU in eastern europe. Poland is not that rich and developed, but simply the most developed of the eastern block and we could not sustain our economy while still giving aid to other poorer eastern euro states like the EU does. NATO is good cause 1)security from anyone not only russia but anyone 2) economy - nato gives us $ and helps us bring our military up to date, and we get to learn new tactics from the west and we get money to upgrade our radars and airstrips. Its probably best to just join the EU for the Eastern Euro states and forget about a Eastern EU. However I am more then willing to create a Eastern group of countries with something simular to the EU just not as integrated and which is subordinate to the EU.

[RuSoKaR]

securety for the eastern countries from who?

[serbian boy]

There are lots of mafia bosses and organized crime that I'v heard of taking over whole army units in some eastern european countries!
Plus I think that it would be fun if eastern europes soldiers could get together and roll around in the mud! :lol: :hug:

[Catch22]

Glad you finally aren't going to nuke us Serbian :hug: About that rolling in the mud... let's just wait for summer to come then we'll see about it, now its about -15 Celsius here in Poland so mud would be rather hard to find, and if ever wont be as comfy as it should be.

Anyway the whole discussion reminded me of an well known (at least in Poland) satiric cartoon by Andrzej Mleczko. It depicted God surrouded by host of smiling angels. The Allmighty was pointing his finger at Earth globe, somewhere at Europe and explaining to the seraphins: And we'll make fun out of the Poles just by placing them between Russians and Germans...