Whats the possibilities of a Canadian fighting in Chechnya ?

[tiger-unit]

ok, im Canadian, and I was wondering if it was possible for a Canadian (me) to join the Russian army, and fight in the war in Chechnya ?... I can get more specific with what unit and other stuff, but just the basics first.

[stuntman]

Why in the world would you want to leave the safty of eh o'l Canada?
Russia is involved in alot of war crimes there plus its not your war. Join the canadian armed forces and keep your integrity please! Not flaming but trying to put some sence in you. :bash:

[tiger-unit]

call me crazy, but its what I want to do, I accept that you think im a war feind, but ya..

[wholagun]

:cantbeli: Well first off you speak Russia? You fat and lean? Cause if you are, there will be no poutine where you wanna go, nor any tasty beaver tails however you like em.

[tiger-unit]

say wut ?, no im in great shape, im not fat and i dont speak russian.

[wholagun]

say wut ?, no im in great shape, im not fat and i dont speak russian.

It was a joke, I wasn't saying your fat or anything just that food can be abit scarce during war and .... aha nevermind..


Ya man join the Canadian forces, **** I'd join if I didn't have bad hearing.
Well how would you communicate with your fellow Russian soldiers?`
Its not your war, if you were Russian ok ya sure go but your not.
If Poland got in **** I would go back but only cause 1) Im Polish and I have an actual connection and 2) I speak the language

[Jack Mehoff]

say wut ?, no im in great shape, im not fat and i dont speak russian.

Come down south of the border because the water is warm and nice over here

[Yard Ape]

Why Chechnya?

[wholagun]

say wut ?, no im in great shape, im not fat and i dont speak russian.

Come down south of the border because the water is warm and nice over here

damn it jack, don't encourage the guy, we need troops up North.

[Russian Texan]

ok, im Canadian, and I was wondering if it was possible for a Canadian (me) to join the Russian army, and fight in the war in Chechnya ?... I can get more specific with what unit and other stuff, but just the basics first.

Your desire to help is very noble and deserves respect but you won't be able to go to Chechnya as a Russian Army soldier for several reasons:

#1Language barier

#2 Russian Army is only open to its citizens and citizens of CIS (most of the former soviet republics)

#3 Russian Army is done in Chechnya, it is MVD's (police) responsibility now.

Sorry

[tiger-unit]

well, I am Ukrainian, but thats not quiiite russian is it, and I would rather fight in Chechnya because i like the russian army better than the Canadian, where else is russia fighting right now, or are they fighting anywhere ?

[tiger-unit]

Thanks for your guys's response, but i think Permkiii Omon would know wuts up.

[Russian Texan]

If you have a Ukranian passport you can serve on a contract. The term varies from 2 to 5 years. Do you speak/understand any russian at all? - that would be the biggest issue. If you are looking for some "action ", go join FFL.

[tiger-unit]

No, i dont know Russian, I would try to learn it.

[tiger-unit]

french foreign legion eh ? no, i still would prefer Russian Army.


I mean, I look at pictures of the soldiers fighting there and how the environment is and it doesnt really look that organized, It doesnt really look like they would care if some canadian was fighting for them, just as long as he was fighting, you know what I mean ?

[Uninen]

http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/afl.shtml

American Foreign Legion anyone?

:D

American Foreign Legion to be Formed

WASHINGTON - The Bush Administration today announced plans to create an American Foreign Legion loosely modeled on the French Foreign Legion.

The idea came out of a recent cabinet level brainstorming session on how to put the best spin on President Bush's vow to send enough troops to Iraq to "do the job" and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's assertion that we do not need to send in any more forces despite the military's near daily plea for additional help. Reportedly, the idea came from Treasury Secretary John Snow who, after not saying anything for a long period, blurted it out as a joke to get noticed. However, it was soon realized that an American Foreign Legion (AFL) would have several advantages including:
Large supply of desperate people worldwide willing to fight for a chance at freedom (there's nothing that free's one soul more than death).
An armed force operating outside of constitutional limits makes for kick-ass news reports.
Why put American soldiers into harms way when we can get expendable foreigners to do the dirty work?
Economical. It takes fifty AFL soldiers to equal the cost of one US soldier. These fantastic savings are achieved through elimination of medical supply overhead, no paid leave, no retirement, no funerals, and the likelyhood that the US will never have to pay these troops (we don't pay the dead...it's un-American).
"If the weasly little Frenchmen won't support the US, we'll hire our own foreigners. I like it!" thumped Vice President Cheney enthusiastically. Cheney was subsequently rushed to Walter Reed hospital for tranquilizer and nitroglycerin treatments.

Funding for AFL will come mostly from reallocation of foreign assistance funds designated for population control. "Rather than encouraging ***, condoms, abortion, and other deviant behaviors," the President stated, "we'll help control the population through traditional methods founded in our Judeo-Christian ethics. You know, kill thy enemy, that sort of thing."

(I guess its not real, but still funneh.. :lol: )

[Jack Mehoff]

http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/afl.shtml

American Foreign Legion anyone?

:D

American Foreign Legion to be Formed

WASHINGTON - The Bush Administration today announced plans to create an American Foreign Legion loosely modeled on the French Foreign Legion.

The idea came out of a recent cabinet level brainstorming session on how to put the best spin on President Bush's vow to send enough troops to Iraq to "do the job" and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's assertion that we do not need to send in any more forces despite the military's near daily plea for additional help. Reportedly, the idea came from Treasury Secretary John Snow who, after not saying anything for a long period, blurted it out as a joke to get noticed. However, it was soon realized that an American Foreign Legion (AFL) would have several advantages including:
Large supply of desperate people worldwide willing to fight for a chance at freedom (there's nothing that free's one soul more than death).
An armed force operating outside of constitutional limits makes for kick-ass news reports.
Why put American soldiers into harms way when we can get expendable foreigners to do the dirty work?
Economical. It takes fifty AFL soldiers to equal the cost of one US soldier. These fantastic savings are achieved through elimination of medical supply overhead, no paid leave, no retirement, no funerals, and the likelyhood that the US will never have to pay these troops (we don't pay the dead...it's un-American).
"If the weasly little Frenchmen won't support the US, we'll hire our own foreigners. I like it!" thumped Vice President Cheney enthusiastically. Cheney was subsequently rushed to Walter Reed hospital for tranquilizer and nitroglycerin treatments.

Funding for AFL will come mostly from reallocation of foreign assistance funds designated for population control. "Rather than encouraging ***, condoms, abortion, and other deviant behaviors," the President stated, "we'll help control the population through traditional methods founded in our Judeo-Christian ethics. You know, kill thy enemy, that sort of thing."

(I guess its not real, but still funneh.. :lol: )


rofl rofl rofl rofl American Foreign Legion rofl rofl rofl

We have "American Foreign Legion" since the Revolutionary War because this country is make up of immigrants. There are probably ten of thousand green card immigrants serving in U.S. armed forces right now. I happen to know a dozen of them. Hell, my platoon sergeant just got his U.S. citizenship 3 months ago

[Yard Ape]

well, I am Ukrainian, but thats not quiiite russian is it, and I would rather fight in Chechnya because i like the russian army better than the Canadian, where else is russia fighting right now, or are they fighting anywhere ?If the Canadian Army is not what you want, why not US or UK or Australia? At least then you could contributre in Iraq or Afghanistan.

[Uninen]

We have "American Foreign Legion" since the Revolutionary War because this country is make up of immigrants. There are probably ten of thousand green card immigrants serving in U.S. armed forces right now. I happen to know a dozen of them.

I know.. Arnie made some 200 of those that had served in Iraq citizens, not that long ago.. last week was it?

[Saint]

french foreign legion eh ? no, i still would prefer Russian Army.


I mean, I look at pictures of the soldiers fighting there and how the environment is and it doesnt really look that organized, It doesnt really look like they would care if some canadian was fighting for them, just as long as he was fighting, you know what I mean ?


Good thing you judge your career based on pictures. You think the Russians would care if you were a Canadian fighting for them. They would
probably tell you to go home. Be realistic.

[Uninen]

Saint,

What he ment was i think that he thinks that Russian Armed Forces lack discipline and he could then do whatever he liked in the Chechnya.. without any of that "military discipline crap"..

rofl

But i figure that you have all seen those vids of Russian NCOs beating the crap out of the recruits, just for laughs.. so i think that i wont have to explain this any futher..

:cantbeli:

[Russian Texan]

french foreign legion eh ? no, i still would prefer Russian Army.


I mean, I look at pictures of the soldiers fighting there and how the environment is and it doesnt really look that organized, It doesnt really look like they would care if some canadian was fighting for them, just as long as he was fighting, you know what I mean ?

How does organized army should look like? :)

Kid,

#1 Any large country's military is what a civilian would call "unorganized" and a lot of things/rules/policies do not make any sense to an outsider but somehow it all comes together and works in the end...

#2 Unless you have a CIS citezenship (former soviet republics) you won't be able to sign a contract.

#3 Army is done in Chechnya, so if you want to get there look at MVD.

#4 Are you sure you are tough enough? I don't mean just physically, I also mean mentally. Service in any military requires toughness and in Russia's case especially... Look at these pictures

http://www.hunt101.com/img/085321-big.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040127/capt.sge.enw49.270104105439.photo00.default-384x256.jpg

http://akalbum.by.ru/images/P1010138.JPG

http://akalbum.by.ru/images/P1010050.JPG

http://akalbum.by.ru/images/P1010053.JPG

Are you sure you can handle all of that? I don't think so, you were born and raised in clean, plush, beautiful, politicaly correct Canada and we are talking RUSSIA here... Dude, get real.

[Haiw]

How old are you anyway?

[Tommy Gunn]

Anyone that really wants to fight should go join the US Marines.

[serbian boy]

I'm a serb and I know other comrades who've gone to fight for our Russian brothers!
I not really sure if I'd want to fight in Chechnya for russian army but if there ever was a coalition of Russia/CIS/FRY against some muslim country I'd go for sure.
Fight in Iraq? Same thing as chechnya just without a good cause! rofl

[tiger-unit]

Russian Texan, How in the hell would you know if I could or couldnt do that, its what I want to do, if you dont have any useful comments please dont bother posting, thanks.

T.Simituk.

[Maverick77]

Join the U.S or Canadian army those two are probably going to be invloved in a massive war within the next 20 years.

btw how old are you man

[tiger-unit]

im 15, I know it sounds stupid wanting to make a desicion like this so early, but I dont see hwy people are thinking im an idiot, just cause I want to help the good, fight the good fight.

[cut]

rofl rofl plenty of time to learn russian then

[Uninen]

it doesnt really look that organized

Yeah,

PR photo shoots arent priority mission for RFF, unlike for certain other militaries.. rofl

[Maverick77]

15

im 16 youll realize soon enough that when you join it wont be just for the hell of it........wont be for any country.


but for yourself and the man next to you.......... which will be a Canadian.

trust me on this one i know you think im full of **** right now but youll see soon enough.

[Haiw]

im 15, I know it sounds stupid wanting to make a desicion like this so early, but I dont see hwy people are thinking im an idiot, just cause I want to help the good, fight the good fight.
rofl
Explains a lot... Anyway, war's not a video game. You don't sign up with just any army just 'because you want to fight!'. (That's what the Marines are for ;))

[Russian Texan]

Russian Texan, How in the hell would you know if I could or couldnt do that, its what I want to do, if you dont have any useful comments please dont bother posting, thanks.

T.Simituk.

How the hell would you know what I know and what I don't?

I'd like to see you demonstrate same attitude in Russia, especially in the military rofl
I am very sorry that have tried to be helpfull and answer your questions.
Now I honestly hope that by some miracle you make it to Russia and they put you in some "stojbat" unit somewhere in ZABVO. Let us know how you like it and how many pairs of socks "grandfathers" make you wash every day.
Young, stupid and worst of all hopeless....

[16 OBr SpN]

At first I was questionning myself whether I should even comment here.

Listen, go do something else. Learn computers; date girls; watch movies; play games. Do you have even a slightest idea WHAT war is??

Blood, guts, dirt, constant hunger, death, ****ing smell of dead flesh. Have you ever heard the screams of a wounded person? Have you ever seen a guy stepping on his own intestines while in pain shock? Do you want to to drink water from dirty rivers and sewers? Do you want to crawl on snow and dirt, and later feel how the cold freezes your uniform? Do you want to wake up at night seeing faces of people who died next to you, or that you've killed?
This is just a small portion of what war is. There is nothing good in it.

You say you want to "help good"? :cantbeli:
Listen, when you're out there, you don't give a flying **** about "good", "freedom", "democracy", and other bull****! You only think about how to survive, and not let your comrades die, and go home (take a shower, have ***, get drunk), and forget this ****ing place.

As for your service in Russian army - impossible. If you really want to wear the uniform, go to Canadian army. Canadian army is very good and definitely worth serving at. Besides, it's your Homeland. I'm sure they'll make you a man, that you want to become.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[tiger-unit]

ok, I thought I was doing a good thing, oh and the thing about dating girls, i have a girlfrinds, a very good looking one, but anyways, I want to fight, maybe not the russian army, according to you, its impossible what other organizations are there, where I wouldnt have to go through all the trouble of joinging the military and having to train for a long time and maybe not even having a chance to see sction ?

[Maverick77]

I dont think anyone in History has ever fully understood war.

But OBr SpN has some type of understanding of it and and so do I

I used to be like that tiger.........just chill out get drunk **** some stupid whores and stop watching The Longest Day and Battle of the Bulge.

If you want to be in a war wait until you understand what it is a little better.

and fight with your Canadian brothers in one of the most professional and skilled militaries in the world.

I will join and glady go into battle but my understanding of it is drastically differant and more clear now than it was even a year ago.

[tiger-unit]

why, what happend ?

[serbian boy]

Hey **** all you guys! :fork: If tiger-unit wants to go to Chechnya to fight then thats what he wants to do alright. Just because you guys don't have anything to do except sit on your computers and make fun of serbs, russians and people who have some goals or things theyed like to do or "adventures" theyed like to experience doesn't mean you have the right to bark down on somebody like that.
You go Tiger-Unit, you have MY support behind you! People think the same things about me, but youre a real free person who's not afraid to speak his mind. **** those mother****ers dont pay attention to them!!!
MOTHER****ERS!!!! :fork:

[Vance]

How old are you, tiger?

[Maverick77]

got older

you get older you start you understand things better

[tiger-unit]

im 15 and thanks serb boy.

[usa320]

I think the US or a international group of special operations and analyst teams should go to chechnya and asess the links between Chechen insurgents and Al Queda. The more we learn about this worldwide network of terror, the better we will be able to take them out. Right now we merely chopped off an arm of the beast. We need to be able to pull out the heart of the beast.

[Vance]

I used to be like you when I was 15 (I'm 16) but now I have a totally different outlook on war...

[tiger-unit]

i dunno, ive been like this for as long as I can remember, I have always wanted to be a soldier and fight.

[Maverick77]

So have I

but my understanding of what a Soldier and war actually are has changed a lot.

[tiger-unit]

ok

[Vance]

Just make sure you can take it

[usa320]

Wait a few years- **** go to college first.

Then if you still want to be a soldier, enlist...

Theres nothing fun about it- but someone has to do it.

[tiger-unit]

I have a feeling im gonna still wanna be a soldier, in the long run.

[serbian boy]

Go Tiger-Unit! YOU ROCK!!! :lol: woot woot woot

[serbian boy]

Russia should just drop some surplus gravity nukes on Chechnya! :lol:

[Maverick77]

You wanna fight so bad right now....

go to africa theyd be glad to have you

[the_spec]

Whoever told you that going to some foreign country, participate in a war that you don't understand and kill people is a good thing to do? I mean, I can't believe that the ultimate answer for "With what can I do most good in the world?" is to kill people. Most of the russian regulars who did fight in chechnya (and survived) would beat the crap out of kids like you, that sit in their nice little homes and want to exchange that for a hole in the ground. You should think about how many didn't want to go to chechnya but had to.
You're maybe old enough when you realized that there is no good or bad in war, only different reasons.
Besides, before playing the loudmouth wanting to chechnya, how 'bout finding out what it is like to be a soldier first? You have no clue what that's like but already want to go to war. That's stupid. Join the canadian forces, then you can decide whether that's enough for you not.

[Tommy Gunn]

im 15 and thanks serb boy.

You should just concentrate on your studies in high school for now. Take the harder classes, get good grades, and particpate in sports, then you can get into a military academy to become an officer in the Canadian armed forces.

If you just want to fight, then join the United States Marine Corps. They're the best infantry in the world.

[tiger-unit]

Im canadian, will the USMC accept me ?

[Tommy Gunn]

Im canadian, will the USMC accept me ?

Yes

[tiger-unit]

ohh ****, i was tlakin to my dad about that and he said u have to be an american.

[Tommy Gunn]

We had Canadians, Irish, Mexicans, Brits, and other foriegn nationalities. I assumed that they joined as part of their naturalization to become Americans. But I never asked.

You should talk to a Marine recruiter and get the straight scoop.

[tiger-unit]

ya man, what are the requirements ?

[Tommy Gunn]

ya man, what are the requirements ?

You need to ask a recruiter for the details.

official United States Marine Corp recruiting site. http://www.marines.com/

[tiger-unit]

ok