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crim_head

11-28-2005, 03:06 AM

Mil Mi-17:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0784.jpg.53871.jpg

Mil Mi-2 Hoplite:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/p/P9100028.JPG.90961.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0401.jpg.47325.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/6006.jpg.73884.jpg

Mil Mi-24 Hind:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0840.jpg.25296.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY_PRU.JPG.75496.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-24D.JPG.62141.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY1_PRU.JPG.70909.jpg

Mil Mi-8 Hip:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-8_PRU.JPG.15343.jpg

PZL-Swidnik W3 Sokol:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/s/SOKOL_2.JPG.86202.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0601.jpg.92124.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/0/0602.jpg.44334.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/d/DSCF6761new1024.jpg.61126.jpg

PZL-Swidnik W3 Sokol Tatra Mountains Rescue (TOPR):
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/w/W3_SP-SXW.jpg.35458.jpg

Greets!

Marmot1

11-28-2005, 03:45 AM

Mil Mi-17:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0784.jpg.53871.jpg
Mil Mi-2 Hoplite:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/p/P9100028.JPG.90961.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0401.jpg.47325.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/6006.jpg.73884.jpg

Mil Mi-24 Hind:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0840.jpg.25296.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY_PRU.JPG.75496.jpg[/URL]
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-24D.JPG.62141.jpg[URL="http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-24D.JPG.62141.jpg"] (http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY_PRU.JPG.75496.jpg)

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY1_PRU.JPG.70909.jpg

Mil Mi-8 Hip:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-8_PRU.JPG.15343.jpg

PZL-Swidnik W3 Sokol:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/s/SOKOL_2.JPG.86202.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0601.jpg.92124.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/0/0602.jpg.44334.jpg

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/d/DSCF6761new1024.jpg.61126.jpg

PZL-Swidnik W3 Sokol Tatra Mountains Rescue (TOPR):
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/w/W3_SP-SXW.jpg.35458.jpg

Greets!

Now even lazy a...es can see them ;-)

crim_head

11-28-2005, 03:47 AM

Yeah! :) Thanks, Marmot 1 !

signatory

11-28-2005, 05:36 AM

Great photos ! brutal.

crim_head

11-28-2005, 05:40 AM

Great photos ! brutal.
yep! p-) you know - opposing forces usually are far more brutal... ;-)

perdurabo

11-28-2005, 06:19 AM

crim_head

11-28-2005, 06:34 AM

sorry but only few are Airforce! and 2 of that W-3 are not even military one (blue) is Police and one(red) is TOPR-witch is mountine rescue from Tatry (other groups of our mountine rescue are GOPR but they use name TOPR because tradition) but rest is Army Airforce!
OK p-) ...so what? those 2 I decided upload 'cos found interesting how they compare with an military stuff. And there are 14 photos, with only 2 non-military. Take it easy :D

crim_head

11-28-2005, 06:48 AM

...another:

Bell 412:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/IMG_4821.JPG.63466.jpg

crim_head

11-28-2005, 06:56 AM

...some more Mil Mi-24:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/1/1.jpg.35192.jpg

perdurabo

11-28-2005, 06:59 AM

and this Bell is Airforce(but Mi24 isn't -i don't want to sound like asshole but if you name thread Airforce you shouldnt post pics of other branches or mark it). 412 is used by 36SPLT "special" they do presidential flights etc this Bell was bought for pope JPII visit but never flew with pope, and spend few years grounded because lack of spare parts.

variable

11-28-2005, 07:04 AM

How many gunships are in service and are they all still fully operational?

Nice pics, btw! :)

perdurabo

11-28-2005, 07:08 AM

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/634_mi_turning_corrected.jpg.38789.jpg
for egzample here you have Airforce helo also from 36SPLT

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:09 AM

My apologize perdurabo, but for me it was just another Polish Air-Force used helo... p-) . If it's never used by military pilots - sorry... :)

perdurabo

11-28-2005, 07:16 AM

How many gunships are in service and are they all still fully operational?

Nice pics, btw! :)

16 Mi24 W
25 Mi24 D

plus

22 Mi2 URP -armed anti-tank version

As for our Airforce helos
we have:
35 Mi2 in flight school and will be changed with SW-4
5 Mi8 for presidential flights -new helos will be bought
1 Bell 412
11 W-3W
6 W-3
(W-3W is armed)

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:18 AM

How many gunships are in service and are they all still fully operational?
all uploaded helos are in service, and (as far I know) they ARE fully operational.

Nice pics, btw! :-)

Thanx, I'll come with some more... :)
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perdurabo

11-28-2005, 07:22 AM

My apologize perdurabo, but for me it was just another Polish Air-Force used helo... p-) . If it's never used by military pilots - sorry... :)
ok. moust of them are military (apart from those two) but they are from diffrent branches, Army has its own airforce -only helos now, Navy also has its own airforce with thingies like Mi14PS or SH-2G but there is separate branch called Airforce.
If you are Pole:
jest Lotnictwo wojsk lądowych
lotnictwo marynarki wojennej
i Siły Powietrzne albo Wojska Lotnicze i Obrony Powietrznej, tylko to ostatnie nazywa się po angielsku Airforce pozostałe są ArmyAirForce i NavyAirForce, jeśli piszesz Airforce i dajesz fotki czegoś innego to to zaznacz żeby ludzie wiedzieli do czego jest to przypisane, jasne że jakiś gówniarz z teksasu i tak nic nieodróżni ale zaglądaja tu też ludzie zainteresowani tematem więc to jest ważne.

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:27 AM

...
If you are Pole:
jest Lotnictwo wojsk lądowych
lotnictwo marynarki wojennej
i Siły Powietrzne albo Wojska Lotnicze i Obrony Powietrznej, tylko to ostatnie nazywa się po angielsku Airforce pozostałe są ArmyAirForce i NavyAirForce, jeśli piszesz Airforce i dajesz fotki czegoś innego to to zaznacz żeby ludzie wiedzieli do czego jest to przypisane, jasne że jakiś gówniarz z teksasu i tak nic nieodróżni ale zaglądaja tu też ludzie zainteresowani tematem więc to jest ważne.
OK, teraz zrozumiałem :) A tak w ogóle to większość z tych fotek zrobili moi qmple - spotterzy na różnych wystawach/piknikach lotniczych!
Dzięki za rozjaśnienie! Take care... :)
that's all true what perdurabo just post, folks! :-D ...

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:33 AM

that's nice one: Mil Mi-24 Hind (another one):

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/Mi-24_738_3.jpg.40395.jpg

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:41 AM

and that is my fav shot:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0664.jpg.20914.jpg

crim_head

11-28-2005, 07:55 AM

"the wing" of Mil Mi-24 Hind - again:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/7/728.jpg.12951.jpg

crim_head

11-28-2005, 08:01 AM

and "inside shot" of MI-24 Hind:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/mi24strzelkabina.jpg.31119.jpg

and another one:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/mi24kabina.jpg.73884.jpg

black templar

11-28-2005, 08:01 AM

crim_head

11-28-2005, 08:13 AM

What is the difference between two models of mi 24. black templar - please use a question marks (?) - then we know you are asking... p-) . Differences? Anybody...???

how does one remove the aerodynamic thing fitted in front of the missile before firing the missile. not sure either... :oops:

what is that pipe thing fitted on the mi 2 exhaust. is it for reducing IR signature of the engines. I think it's for repairing time reason only, but not sure...

Is the W3 gunship fitted with any guns. The thing in front what is it radar or some type target acquisition thing. I though there are some heavy guns assembled with W3W - haven't you figured it out?
Ciao! p-)

perdurabo

11-28-2005, 08:13 AM

What is the difference between two models of mi 24.
how does one remove the aerodynamic thing fitted in front of the missile before firing the missile.
what is that pipe thing fitted on the mi 2 exhaust. is it for reducing IR signature of the engines.
Is the W3 gunship fitted with any guns. The thing in front what is it radar or some type target acquisition thing.
1. Mi24D is erlier version visual you can see it has nose turret but it also has older targeting systems and uses older rockets, Mi24W has twin gun pod on its side and has newer targetting systems.
2.duno prabably removed before flight
3.its not for reducing ir signature its device to lay smoke on battlefield (its Army helo)
4.its armed with twin guns on side (on some removed) also it carries diffrent pods on its "wings" and can carry gunners with PK inside, thingy on front isn't radar it is place where nose turret will be placed (it was planned but it never got one now with upgrade programe it will get its nose-gun)

corran.pl

11-28-2005, 08:44 AM

Please change name of topic to Polish helos or somethin like that - most of this helos is used by Polish Army Land Forces, not by Air Force.

Air force helos:

Mi-8S (S for Salonka - Vip transport)
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/634_mi_turning_corrected.jpg.38789.jpg

Bell 412 - used for vip transport – commonly used to transport international guests from Warsaw-Okęcie Air Port to Belweder Palace (polish White House)
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/IMG_4821.JPG.63466.jpg

Army helos:

Mi-24
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0840.jpg.25296.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY_PRU.JPG.75496.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-24D.JPG.62141.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/c/CZARNY1_PRU.JPG.70909.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/1/1.jpg.35192.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/7/728.jpg.12951.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0664.jpg.20914.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/Mi-24_738_3.jpg.40395.jpg

W-3W
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/d/DSCF6761new1024.jpg.61126.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/0/0602.jpg.44334.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/s/SOKOL_2.JPG.86202.jpg

Mi-17
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0784.jpg.53871.jpg

Mi-8
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/MI-8_PRU.JPG.15343.jpg

Mi-2
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/6006.jpg.73884.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0401.jpg.47325.jpg
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/p/P9100028.JPG.90961.jpg

Civil helos:

W-3A - used by mountain rescue
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/w/W3_SP-SXW.jpg.35458.jpg

W-3 - used by Warsaw Police
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0601.jpg.92124.jpg

crim_head

11-28-2005, 08:47 AM

:| OK, you are right! But only moderator can change the topic name now... please! Lets make it as corran suggest: Polish Helos
Greets! :)

Brzeczyszczykiewicz

11-28-2005, 08:50 AM

crim_head

11-28-2005, 08:51 AM

and another one:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0889.jpg.67942.jpg

Brzeczyszczykiewicz

11-28-2005, 09:07 AM

1. Mi24D is erlier version visual you can see it has nose turret but it also has older targeting systems and uses older rockets, Mi24W has twin gun pod on its side and has newer targetting systems.
It's the Mi-24P that has a twin gun :p. But you're right about the rest- Mi-24D uses the 9M17 Falanga (AT-2) ATGMs while -V uses the 9M114 Kokon (AT-6).

corran.pl

11-28-2005, 03:49 PM

Radical changes are going to appear in the Polish military helicopter fleet during the next few years... Up to 60 new medium helicopters will be bought, first for the VIP transport and later to replace all currently used Mi-8/-14/-17 in the Air Force, Army and Naval aviation. The tender is already underway and the contestants are NH-90, EH-101 and S-92.

That isn't exactly true. There is a bid for 6 (six) new heli for vip transport for Air Force, theri should buy more but... the bid is only for 6 copters.

Currently AF is using Mi-8S (salonka) and Mi-8P (pasażerski) to transport VIPs (AFAIR there also is one Mi-8T) and Mi-8RL as SAR (not CSAR). This year five from six Mi-8S will be recapture so we need new copters. We also need four to six CSAR (some of them will replace Mi-8RL) - I think that goverment should do this like a man and replace all medium copters used by AF (this would be 6 VIP, 6 CSAR and about 4 TTC to fulfill all needs) - and transfer all flyable Mi-8 to Land Forces.

The thing is different in the NAVY - We use Mi-14PL (anti-submarine variant, modernized - new radar and equipment, can carry MU-90 eurotorpeedo - will be used no less then next 10 years), Mi-17T (transport variant - can fly next 10-15 years) and Mi-14PS (the SAR variant that need to be replaced ass soon as possible - we need about 3-4 new copters).

What about Land Forces? they use about 25 Mi-8 (4 of them in Iraq) and about 10 Mi-17. Mi-17 are newer and can fly next 10-15 years, but most of the Mi-8 should be retired next 5-10 years.

So what we should buy to fulfill our needs? (in brackets i put the name of the hopter that will be replaced.

2006-2010 (20 copters)
6 VIP transport (Mi-8S, Mi-8P), 6 CSAR(Mi-8RL), 4 TTC(Mi-8P, Mi-8T) for Air Force and 4 SAR (Mi-14PS) for Navy.
2010-2015 (26 copters)
about 20 TTC(Mi-8T) for Land Forces, about 6(Mi-14PL) anti-submarine for Navy
beyond 2015 (18 copters)
2 TTC(Mi-17T) for NAVY and about 16 TTC(Mi-17T) for Land Forces

so it will be about 60-70 copters to be bought next 15 years to replace all fleet.

And some pictures:

Mi-14PS (Navy)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0502/0502220003.jpg

Mi-14PL (Navy)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0501/0501270018.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0401/0401240006.jpg

Mi-8T (Land Forces)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0509/0509110017.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0508/0508230008.jpg

Mi-17T (Land Forces)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0509/0509090068.jpg

Mi-8S (Air Force)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0505/0505210050.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0505/0505210048.jpg

Iraq
Camp Echo, Ad-Diwaniyah
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0508/0508120021.jpg

Camp Babilon
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0502/0502080027.jpg

W-3W (Land Forces)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0509/0509240027.jpg

Name them all ;-)
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0509/0509110040.jpg

bloddyaxe

11-28-2005, 05:06 PM

Poland = Helicopterland? p-)

nice pics!!

artistoli

11-28-2005, 05:49 PM

Absolutely stunning pictures! I think the Mi24 is fast becomming my new favourite helicopter. It's lines are just so poweful!

crim_head

11-29-2005, 03:38 AM

...a pair of Mi-24 of Polish (Land Army) Forces:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/e/eppr-pruszcz-457.jpg.83720.jpg

crim_head

11-29-2005, 06:51 AM

and this one looks like at vacation ;) :
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/m/Mi-24_728.jpg.78153.jpg

and another one:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/a/axo_728_300d.jpg.73660.jpg

crim_head

11-29-2005, 08:26 AM

Guys needs some rest too:
http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/6/629.jpg.47635.jpg

crim_head

11-30-2005, 03:35 AM

Another MI-17 founded:

http://images1.jetphotos.net/images/i/Img_0750.jpg.54133.jpg