Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Radovan Karadzic...

[Uncle Sam]

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Radovan Karadzic, wanted by a U.N. war crimes tribunal for charges including genocide, remains at large.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/02/11/bosnia.karadzic/


BRUSSELS, Belgium (CNN) -- Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Radovan Karadzic is living in Belgrade, United Nations war crimes prosecutor Carla del Ponte has said.

She added that her office's relations with Serbia were frozen as a result.

The prosecutors's spokesman Florence Hartmann told CNN the information had been received from "a very reliable source."

She said that there already had been information from the same source that wanted Bosnian Serb General Ratko Mladic was in Serbia -- bringing to about 15 the number of fugitives there in all.

There have been recent searches in Bosnia for Karadzic -- wanted by a U.N. war crimes tribunal for the 1995 Srebrenica massacre -- which caused him to cross the border into Serbia, Hartmann said.

"He moved out from Bosnia because the international community was searching for him very efficiently [in Bosnia].

"We hope that the same pressure will move to Belgrade to get an arrest because NATO can't go to Serbia to do it."

She said Belgrade authorities would not allow NATO troops to search for Karadzic. The U.N. office had had "no cooperation or support" from the Serb authorities and it was now up to the international community to act to bring about their arrests.

"We hope somehow we will get this compliance by the Serbian authorities," she said.

Earlier U.S. Under Secretary for Economic, Business and Agricultural Affairs, Alan Larson, told a business breakfast at the American Chamber of Commerce in Belgrade that a prosperous future for Serbia hung on political stability and cooperation with the Hague war crimes court.

Only then could U.S. boost economic ties, he said.

"It is essential that Serbia emerge from this period of political uncertainty with a clear, firm recommitment to this partnership," Larson said.

Del Ponte told *******: "I received just last week information from a credible source that even Karadzic is now in Belgrade. So Belgrade is now a safe haven for our fugitives ... Karadzic is now residing in Belgrade.

"So we have now both our most high level people responsible for the crimes committed, Mladic and Karadzic," in Serbia, she said.

"We must say that at this time cooperation is frozen," del Ponte added.

In 1995, a peace accord signed in Dayton, Ohio, ended the war between Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Serbs. The conflict was Europe's most deadly since World War II. More than 200,000 people died.

According to the War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands, 20 indicted suspects are still at large, including Karadzic, who has a $5 million reward posted on him, and his top general, Mladic. (Karadzic profile)

The U.N. tribunal indicted the two men for the massacre of up to 8,000 Muslim men and boys in the eastern town of Srebrenica in 1995 and the siege of Sarajevo, in which more than 10,000 people died.

Karadzic remains popular among nationalist Serbs, especially in the east Bosnian region, which is still politically controlled by hardliners.

Human rights activists have criticized NATO for failing to capture Karadzic and Mladic.

In August 2003, NATO forces took up positions outside the home of Karadzic's daughter in the Bosnian Serb wartime stronghold of Pale.

The NATO force failed to find Mladic during a raid on his mother's house after she died in August 2003.

NATO force authorities had said they believed Karadzic was hiding somewhere in the Republic of Srpska, the Bosnian Serb territory within Bosnia-Herzegovina.

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Uncle sam's gonna have a hangover when he sobers up

[Uncle Sam]

Insanity is my only means of relaxation.

[Royal]

From any one other that CDP I'd believe it ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3479489.stm

I don't think Milutinovic is stupid enough to have either of them in Belgrade. Somewhere in the mountains of Monte Negro is more likely...

[serbian boy]

Karadzic and Gen.Mladic are only true serbain heroes! Not milosevic! If you guys cared to learn about the conflict other than what you saw on CNN or BBC maybe you'd understand why. :D

[SeanAshi]

He looks like Ted Coppel

[Haiw]

Karadzic and Gen.Mladic are only true serbain heroes! Not milosevic! If you guys cared to learn about the conflict other than what you saw on CNN or BBC maybe you'd understand why. :D
Let's see....because they butchered 7,500 Muslims in Srebrenica? Let's make a new deck of cards with 52 heroes... some nominees:
-Hitler
-Stalin
-Mao
-Mladic...

[SeanAshi]

Who was that guy who ran the KLA, he was killed a few years back in a hotel lobby, some say Milosevic had him shot?

[usa320]

Good. We should just locked the KLA and the serbian war crimes people in a room and let god sort em out.

Neither of them are the kinda people id want to deal with.

[MetalBoy]

That would be Zeljo "Arkan" Raznatov. There was a pretty good documentary about him on the History Channel series Targeted a few weeks ago.

Monday, January 26 @ 10pm ET/PT
Arkan: Baby-Faced Psycho
One of the world's most heinous war criminals, Zeljko Raznatovic--aka "Arkan"--cut his teeth on the Yugoslavian underworld of organized crime. A flamboyant and ruthless killer, Arkan purportedly operated at the bidding of Slobodan Milosevic, enforcing his policy of ethnic cleansing. Indicted by The Hague for war crimes, he was targeted by Delta Force, British SAS, and French Commandos. Finally the manhunt ended in Belgrade, when a masked gunmen put a bullet in Arkan's head. TV PG
Interesting, don't remember seeing anything about the D-Boys hunting him though.

[usa320]

Shhhh....we arent supposed to know that.

[SeanAshi]

Arkan got bullet in the head, he got off eazy.

[16 OBr SpN]

Karadzic and Gen.Mladic are only true serbain heroes! Not milosevic! If you guys cared to learn about the conflict other than what you saw on CNN or BBC maybe you'd understand why. :D
Let's see....because they butchered 7,500 Muslims in Srebrenica? Let's make a new deck of cards with 52 heroes... some nominees:
-Hitler
-Stalin
-Mao
-Mladic...

If I created a card deck of all the Albanian, Muslim and Croatian scumbags who killed innocent Serbs by the thousands, I would have a card deck of 100 cards. :(
Unfortunately, I don't see albanian, and other ****ers getting tried in tribunal.

Unfortunately, due to the propaganda, you guys think that the Serbs were the "evil" while others were "good".


Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[SeanAshi]

Unfortunately, due to the propaganda, you guys think that the Serbs were the "evil" while others were "good".

What the hell is good about ethnic cleansing?

[16 OBr SpN]

Unfortunately, due to the propaganda, you guys think that the Serbs were the "evil" while others were "good".

What the hell is good about ethnic cleansing?

Did I say something about ethnic cleansing being good?? :roll:

I said that the whole thing about Balkans is VERY one-sided.
I don't see see the tribunal looking eagerly for Croats, Albanians who also killed thousands of Serbs! Do you??

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[serbian boy]

Oh jeez, all of you are so naive,
haiw wrote
Let's see....because they butchered 7,500 Muslims in Srebrenica? Let's make a new deck of cards with 52 heroes
And my dear friend what do you think the croatians and muslims did.

REFERENCE #6:

Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, Vol 1, page 323, entry: Croatia
Quote:

CROATIA (Nazavisna Drzava Hrvatska or Independent State of Croatia, NDH) ... established during WWII, that was in existence from April 1941 to May 1945. Its area... CONSISTED OF WHAT ARE TODAY THE FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF CROATIA AND THE FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA... Its capital was Zagreb. It had population of 6.3 million, of whom 3.3 million were Catholic Croats, 1.9 million Serbs, 700,000 Muslim..., 40,000 Jews, 30,000 Gypsies...

... Shortly after taking control, the Ustasha, WITH THE SUPPORT OF MANY CROATS, EMBARKED UPON WHAT IT CALLED "THE PURGE OF CROATIA FROM FOREIGN ELEMENTS," which had as its main purpose the ELIMINATION OF THE SERB MINORITY.

In a BRUTAL TERROR CAMPAIGN, more than half a million Serbs were killed, a quater of million expelled, and 200,000 forced to convert to Catholicism.

THE USTASHA REGIME IN CROATIA, AND PARTICULARLY THIS DRIVE IN THE SUMMER OF 1941 TO EXTERMINATE AND DISPOSSESS THE SERBS, WAS ONE OF THE MOST HORRENDOUS EPISODES OF WORLD WAR II !!!!!!!!!!

THE MURDER METHODS APPLIED BY THE USTASHA WERE EXTRAORDINARILY PRIMITIVE AND SADISTIC: thousands were hurled from mountain tops, other were beaten to death or their throats cut, entire villages were burned down, WOMEN RAPED, people sent to death marches in the middle of winter, and still others starved to death.

(End quote)
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Gospic at the end of 1991; Croatian military formations, under the command of Tomislav Mercep, killed 26 Serbian civilians
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Collective grave of Serbian civilians in Mrkonjic-Grad
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A corpse of 73-years-old man, one of 34 civilians killed by Muslims in destroyed Kravice village on Orthodox Christmas on January 1 1993
Now can you tell me serbs where the only murderers?

[SeanAshi]

I said that the whole thing about Balkans is VERY one-sided. I've seen many website run by extremist saying America killed all those muslmis in the Balkans, if the muslims were killing Serbain christians why was that not put into the media?

[PsihoKeke]

OK let's clear up a bit. In Bosnia everybody was killing everyone, but it's the Serbs who have by far the highest bodycount, Srebrenica is yust the tip of the iceberg. Haag tribunal is actualy looking for Croats and Muslims responsible for some of the warcrimes, some of them are allready put to trial (general Norac), some are still hiding (general Gotovina).
As for NDH atrocities during II.WW, that was solved after war, altough some got away.

[Dalleer]

Karadzic and Gen.Mladic are only true serbain heroes!

I'm sorry, but I do not really care who killed/raped/tortured etc. the highest amount of civilians from the various sides in the Yugoslavian civilwar. But I can tell you that the the only thing that makes this Karadzic-guy a ****ing pansy is that he doesn't have the guts to go to a tribunal to answer for his crimes, not to mention that his best friend Ratko Mladic is also hiding.

My opinion also includes people from the muslim side, from all of the sides that have violated the Geneva convention not to mention what else.

Come on, turn up in Haag and maybe people will at least remember you as a man who had the guts to face the consequences of his actions.

[Royal]

I said that the whole thing about Balkans is VERY one-sided.
I don't see see the tribunal looking eagerly for Croats, Albanians who also killed thousands of Serbs! Do you??

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

Actually yes, I've been involved in Ops targeting Serb, Croat, Muslim and Albanian war criminals in the Balkans over the past 9 years.


I've seen many website run by extremist saying America killed all those muslmis in the Balkans, if the muslims were killing Serbain christians why was that not put into the media?

Because the international media were based in Sarajevo (inside a muslim enclave) and sided with the people they were living with. They either didn't want to or couldn't report much or what happened throughout the Balkan wars. Ask any of the guys on here that served with UNPROFOR; yes the Serbs were guilty of war crimes but so were the others.

BTW I can certainly vouch for Serbian Boy's grave in Mrkonjic Grad. I was there when it was opened. Not an experience I want to repeat.

[Groove]

lol 16 OBr SpN

Next time inform a lttle bit better before you try to defend your orthodox brothers!

There are some croatians already in Den Haag. And try to google for Gen. Ante Gotovina - Den Haag wants him.

Try to google for "Vukovar" too pls.

Groove

[serbian boy]

Then U.S. interests in 1991 orginally were to help the serbs keep yugoslavia together but under a democratic government since the communist one had already fallen. That was what president bush wanted to do in 1991! :hug:
But, since the reunification of Germany and the fall of the Soviet Union the U.S. foreign department needed a strong allie to keep "security" if some crazy **** broke out in the eastern european countries( as it had already in Yugoslavia) But the German ministers were already unsuprisingly looking how to help build an "independant,"healthy" Croatian state" :(
This new state reminded alot of people of WW2 (Ustashi,anyone?,anyone?)
This also unsurplisingly scared alot of gypsies,serbs,orthodox and whoever that wasn't Croatian or catholic. And they decided to take up arms to defend themselves.
Madeline Albright persuaded the U.S. governemnt to help the Croatians,Slovene,Muslims to break away and to keep Germany happy :roll:
From that day on the serbs were the bad guys in western media, and thats why you didn't see any thing about crimes commited on serbs.
There probably was a massacre in Srebrenica but I highly doubt 8000 people in 2 days! I guess thats when we were already losing the war and we just wanted some revenge :P
All this is from living through it, watching both our and western media, reading books listening to stories and getting information from people who were there. I spent the last 4 years trying to figure it out and my parents still don't understand it all! So I don't expect some westerners who've only heard about it on CNN or BBC to understand! ;)
But im guess that's just how it is
Any way it's long past and alot of people want to forget about and just look forward to another day. Hopefully some better days ahead for the people that have had to live through it. :lol: :hug:

[SeanAshi]

I seen on the history channel when the Serbs or KLA chained UN Peackeepers to bridges and buildings, as human shields.

[serbian boy]

I heard that story too. But it was a canadian peacekeeping unit in bosnia in 1995 and some old serb soldiers got together one more time for a drink but the Canadians came into the bar and some hostility started. Anyway the smurfs werent carrying guns and one of the old serbian soldiers had an M-70AB2 folded under his overcoat and they chained the canadians to a tree and painted the 4 c's sign on their helmets and left them their right close to the croatian sector :lol:
Good thing they were rescued a couple of minutes later and not popped of by some croatian sniper :hug:

[Royal]

Considerably more than a few Cannucks were held, including more than 20 Brit's during the attacks on Gorazde and others in the later stages of Op Oluja in the Banja Luka area.

[SeanAshi]

Wasn't it Arkans wife who took part in killing Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic ?

[Haiw]

If I created a card deck of all the Albanian, Muslim and Croatian scumbags who killed innocent Serbs by the thousands, I would have a card deck of 100 cards. :(
Unfortunately, I don't see albanian, and other f*** getting tried in tribunal.

Unfortunately, due to the propaganda, you guys think that the Serbs were the "evil" while others were "good".


Regards,
16 OBr SpN
Yeah well you won't hear me defending those guys as well. Besides, I know the UCK aren't exactely angels either. If it was up to me anyone guilty of genocide should be tried... However, other parties being guilty of it as well doesn't change anything about the deeds of Mladic and his likes.

[Dalleer]

4 c's sign on their helmets and left them their right close to the croatian sector

Forgive me for my ignorance, but what does the "4 c's sign" mean when the Serbs painted it onto the Canadian UN troops' helmets?

And what comes to the story that told you us, I might be a bit more interested of knowing what was the trouble that the Canadians were causing to the Serbs?


I seen on the history channel when the Serbs or KLA chained UN Peackeepers to bridges and buildings, as human shields.

Yep, there was also some interesting stories circulating about Nepalese and Russian UNPROFOR (?) troops bartering with the Serbs...

The Nepalese were "trading" army boots to the Serbs in one case, in order to let a team of foreign reporters to a village or something.

[serbian boy]

The for c's is an old serbian saying that says in serbian "camo cloga crbina cpasava" which roughly translates into just "independence saves serbs" or something to that extent. This is widely used on serbian signs and flags and insignia
http://www.tridentmilitary.com/new-photos11/yu3075f.jpg
First Serb Krajina Arm Patch
I heard it from a friend who owns a bar in Vancouver and he said that there was a bunch of canadian soldiers one night who were out for drinks and then 2 serbian guys walk in to get some drinks and the soldiers get up and asked him to kick them out, he refused and then the soldiers started talking about how serbs were animals and what they did to those smurfs in bosnia.
About what trouble the soldiers were causing to the serb veterans, he didn't quite here but i think it's something about one of the soldiers making crude anti-serb jokes but I'm not sure about that.

[Dalleer]

The for c's is an old serbian saying that says in serbian "camo cloga crbina cpasava" which roughly translates into just "independence saves serbs" or something to that extent.

Heh heh, I can imagine the Canadian troops chained there with something like that written on their helmets(heads?), just waiting for a patrol to find them...


About what trouble the soldiers were causing to the serb veterans, he didn't quite here but i think it's something about one of the soldiers making crude anti-serb jokes but I'm not sure about that.

Well, weren't they a pair/group of bad mannered Canadians then...

[serbian boy]

Well I wouldn't want to be one of those canadians for sure!
Especially if some HOV unit came along!

[PsihoKeke]

As for captured peacekeepers, Serbs kidnaped more than hundred of them and used them as human shield against posible NATO bombardment during offensive against Goražde and Sarajevo. It was constantly on the news at that time but serbian boy was probably too young at that time to remember.

As for Djindjič assasination it was done by elemnts within JSO, Arkans wife was acused of helping to hide the suspects and some other criminal activity.

[16 OBr SpN]

lol 16 OBr SpN

Next time inform a lttle bit better before you try to defend your orthodox brothers!

There are some croatians already in Den Haag. And try to google for Gen. Ante Gotovina - Den Haag wants him.

Try to google for "Vukovar" too pls.

Groove

On the subject of that war, believe me, I'm definitely much more informed than you.
During those times, I had access to LOTS of very interesting sources. ;)

I will say it once again - ****ing croat, albanian and other scumbags killed Serbs by thousands.
The first time albanian ****s commited genocide on Serbian population, was back in 1981. 60 Serbs were killed by the members of albanian underground. Two churches were burned. Thousands fled their homes.

I have always defended my Orthodox brothers, because they simply were protecting themselves.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Royal]

lol 16 OBr SpN

Next time inform a lttle bit better before you try to defend your orthodox brothers!

There are some croatians already in Den Haag. And try to google for Gen. Ante Gotovina - Den Haag wants him.

Try to google for "Vukovar" too pls.

Groove

On the subject of that war, believe me, I'm definitely much more informed than you.
During those times, I had access to LOTS of very interesting sources. ;)

I will say it once again - f*** croat, albanian and other scumbags killed Serbs by thousands. As Serbs killed Croats, Muslims and Kosovar Albanians
The first time albanian f*** commited genocide on Serbian population, was back in 1981. 60 Serbs were killed by the members of albanian underground. Two churches were burned. Thousands fled their homes. and the UCK carried on to this day, but the VJ and paramilitaries retaliated pretty well

I have always defended my Orthodox brothers, because they simply were protecting themselves. In Kosovo and the Krajina maybe, but in most of Bosnia, definitely not.
Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Groove]

its great for u that u had interesting papers !

but as i already mentioned there are croats in den haag and the tribunal is searching for croats.

It seems to me that you maybe had LOTS of great papers on the ongoing war bur you have no idea of the serbians in former yugoslavia before the war. Where serbians were in all the key positions in the government and so on.

But thats a other strory.

Ah - another question. Were you religious back in the old soviet times ? As you was or were in a Special Unit - could you speak freely you are a Orthodox ???

Thx and cu later

Groove

[martinexsquaddie]

just because one side commits a massacre doe'snt give the otherside a right ot commit genocide as well.
cetainly the serbs managed the biggest body count not that thats anything to boast about :(
from my friends who served out there said it used to be a proper country with running water and electricity and TV and such. Till a bunch of ****ers decided to wreck it. Balkan warriors prefer there targets to be women and childen even old men make them think twice tossers the lot of them

[Argo AdAm]

There probably was a massacre in Srebrenica but I highly doubt 8000 people in 2 days!Probably???!!! :bash:

I guess thats when we were already losing the war and we just wanted some revenge :P :cantbeli: So revenge on civilians is the only thing that Bosnian Serbian army [edit: here was only "Serbian army" but it was my mistake] realy likes and can do? Are you proud of that "Serbian significant victory"? Probably yes, the main commander there was your hero Mladic...


All this is from living through it, watching both our and western media, reading books listening to stories and getting information from people who were there. Did you ask any Bosnian from Srebrenica if there was massacre or not? Probably no, but of course you can discuss this thing with Serbs who were there...

[Kingpin]

So revenge on civilians is the only thing that Serbian army realy likes and can do? Are you proud of that "Serbian significant victory"? Probably yes, the main commander there was your hero Mladic...


It wasn't regular army.

[Argo AdAm]

So revenge on civilians is the only thing that Serbian army realy likes and can do? Are you proud of that "Serbian significant victory"? Probably yes, the main commander there was your hero Mladic...
It wasn't regular army.
Oh, yes, thanks - my mistake. It was not regular Serbian Army but Bosnian Serbian Army

[Dalleer]

As for captured peacekeepers, Serbs kidnaped more than hundred of them and used them as human shield against posible NATO bombardment during offensive against Goražde and Sarajevo.

Yes, I've heard and read stories like that as well. Although, the main reason why the peacekeepers were being treated like dirt was that they didn't have the authority (and guts, it rather seems) to push back when the Serbs started to 'order' them around.

I believe that it was the Dutch peacekeepers that got into trouble in Srebrenica, yes?

[Royal]

I believe that it was the Dutch peacekeepers that got into trouble in Srebrenica, yes?

It was the Dutch Battalion in Srebrenica that was continually refused armoured support and airstrikes (by the same UN security council (including Clinton's US) that set up the so called 'safe areas') to prevent the regular Serb army from over-running the town.

A similar situation happened with British 'peacekeepers' in Gorazde, although many fewer civilians were slaughtered.

[Dalleer]

It was the Dutch Battalion in Srebrenica that was continually refused armoured support and airstrikes (by the same UN security council (including Clinton's US) that set up the so called 'safe areas') to prevent the regular Serb army from over-running the town.

Yes, this particular case further demonstrates the fact that the UN really had a huge problem with authority there, not to mention that their chain of command was somebit questionable.

No wonder the peacekeepers were pushed and shoveled from every side there, a sad thing really...

[Haiw]

It was the Dutch Battalion in Srebrenica that was continually refused armoured support and airstrikes (by the same UN security council (including Clinton's US) that set up the so called 'safe areas') to prevent the regular Serb army from over-running the town.

A similar situation happened with British 'peacekeepers' in Gorazde, although many fewer civilians were slaughtered.
Yup...very sad. It's known as propably the biggest blunder of the Dutch army, but they couldn't really do much about it; they were refused all support, and a .50 isn't gonna do much good against tanks.

[Dalleer]

and a .50 isn't gonna do much good against tanks.

Yes, it's so very frustrating sometimes when reading about the UN peacekeepers trying to do their job, and then the "boss" not letting you do it right...

[Pille1234]

and a .50 isn't gonna do much good against tanks.

Yes, it's so very frustrating sometimes when reading about the UN peacekeepers trying to do their job, and then the "boss" not letting you do it right...

The same happened again in Rwanda, but don't blame the UN for that. The UN is nothing more than their members want the UN to be. In both cases at least some members didn't want a full scale engagement and **** like this usually happens when doing a half measure.

[serbian boy]

Argo Adam, please dear friend don't be so biased and anti-serb :hug:
There were three different forces that paritcipated on the serbian side in the war, in bosnia: the Republika Srpska Vojska, in croatia: Vojska Srpske Krajine and in all of those places in earlier stages of the war the JNA participated in most of the large actions.
They were all hard core fighting units, but what you have to know is their were hundreds of different militia and paramilitary units on all sides that weren't under the command of anybody.
And come on Srbrenica is one place, WOW! How many serbs were killed by Croatians and Muslim mujahadeen? I couldn't even count.

[serbian boy]

The hague is a bull**** court consisting primarily of amercian,british judges and persecution! They do not give Milosevic fair trial times, bring in stupid witnesses that correct themselves at least 10 times and change their stories. I don't believe anything that they say they "found out"
More like made up! :backhand:
If there ever is to be any real tribunal it would contain the countries who participated in the war, to convict the murders and criminals both their own and each others. That would be a real crime tribunal! Not the Hague, yeah right rofl ! ****ing Hague! rofl

[Ichhabe]

Debating with serbian boy is like shouting out against the wind. Pointless...

[serbian boy]

yeah good thing you gave up numbnuts! I win! woot I win! woot
SUCKER!! rofl

[serbian boy]

anyway, ignoring ichabe or whatever the **** his name is. Did any of you guys ever se Boris Tadic's film "Nicija Zemlja" or No Mans Land? Good movie! :D

[ibstolidude]

anyway, ignoring ichabe or whatever the f*** his name is. Did any of you guys ever se Boris Tadic's film "Nicija Zemlja" or No Mans Land? Good movie! :D
I have and it was pretty good.

I like the way the reporter played into the ending.

[Haiw]

serbian boy... your ignorance is simply impossible to describe in words.

[Groove]

Well Serbs thinks that they are "the chosen" by god - hes behaviour is normal ;)

Btw they believe in witches and stuff like that - im not wondering about anything ! :cantbeli:

Groove

[serbian boy]

Groove, I wonder how you would know that? Are you a serb? Anyway I was talking about NO MANS LAND why are stirring up conflict and hatred? :lol:

[serbian boy]

Also we don't beleive in witches! We tell folk tales to little kids about how if their bad they get eaten by a witch. Okay? It just a FOLK TALE,mkay?
FOLK TALE,Mkay? jeez :lol: :hug: :hug:

[serbian boy]

And haiw, what are you talking about? I was talking about a movie! Is talking about movies considered ignorance in wherever you live? Make Peace man :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Haiw]

I was talking about how you were slacking off Ichabe...just like you did with Tane Angle in another thread. In case you haven't noticed yet; ripping on the respected BTDTs like that doesn't make you a very popular person...

Oh and yeah I've seen the movie, actually a pretty good movie.

[serbian boy]

Alright! At least one thing we can agree on. :hug:
And anyway me and Taneangel apologized to each other so thats done. :hug:

[GazB]

just because one side commits a massacre doe'snt give the otherside a right ot commit genocide as well.

So why is it that only one side is considered guilty of it if all sides did it?

The Serb handed over Milosovich and got nothing but promises of help for all the destruction caused by NATO. The KLA acted like a terrorist organisation, bombing nightclubs and other civilian targets to get the serbs to retaliate. Now the Serbs are being prosecuted for the retaliation in Kosovo and in the previous conflicts there. If you want to criticise Pro Serb people for being blindly pro serb then reserve some criticism for yourself. Blindly anti Serb is no better.

FK the hauge... if Yugoslavia was more powerful then there would have been no NATO or UN intervention. Such courts are only inflicted on the weak and are monkey courts to punnish the "bad side" as determined by the all powerful agencies of the Whitehouse and CNN and do nothing to solve any problems.

It is ironic that Blair even vocalised his bigotry. Such things as open war can't be allowed in Europe... really? Is Europe so civilised and advanced and perfect that it can't have open warfare? It seems OK for it to occur elsewhere... What a prick.

[Groove]

I know enough serbs (they are not my hostiles). They believe in witches (mostly the land living ppl) and they really think they are the chose one.

Greetings

Groove

[serbian boy]

Groove, everybody thinks they are chosen one German Arayans, Isralis, Muslims. I personally don't so i don't see a reason just to dump on serbs but if thats what you beleive then thats okay. :D :hug:
And Gaz, one other point I and you bith missed the war in Yugoslavia was "officialy" seen as started by 3 muslim men who drove up to a serb wedding in sarejevo and opened fire, killing two people I think it was and wounding 6 other. They were thought to come from an organization called the "Black Swans"
More info: Check out this non biased site http.//ispec.specwarnet.net

[Durandal]

The same happened again in Rwanda, but don't blame the UN for that. The UN is nothing more than their members want the UN to be. In both cases at least some members didn't want a full scale engagement and **** like this usually happens when doing a half measure.

BS, I will blame the U.N.. The troops are there to maintain the peace either by presence or by force. The U.N. had the troops in place in Rwanda and took them out...

In both cases, much like the U.S.'s pullout of Somolia, the lack of use of proper force when presence no longer acts as a deterrent, only teaches the "bad" guys they can get away with it...