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Uncle Sam
02-11-2004, 11:13 AM
http://www.25idl.army.mil/




http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v56/deathdot/02052004_015.jpgMOSUL, Iraq -- A change made to the Stryker infantry vehicle has proven itself in combat.

The 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division -- also called Task Force Olympia after its Fort Lewis, Wash., home -- is replacing the 101st Airborne Division in this city.

The Stryker, an eight-wheeled infantry transporter, is an armored vehicle designed to stop 14.5 mm rounds. Critics said the main threat in Iraq is rocket-propelled grenades, and that the vehicle would not provide protection from them.

Army officials outfitted the Strykers with what the soldiers call a "cage." The slat armor put on the vehicles in Kuwait does look like a cage. It encircles the vehicle and gives added protection to the body of the Stryker.

It is slats placed about 18 inches away from the main body. The theory was that an RPG would hit the slat and "defuse" between the slat and the main armor, said Brig. Gen. Carter Ham, the brigade commander.

The theory was exactly right, he said. "A bit earlier this morning there was an RPG attack against a Stryker vehicle in the eastern part of Mosul," he said to reporters traveling with Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. "It was the second attack against a Stryker, but the first to strike the slat armor.

"It did exactly was it was intended to do," he continued. "When the round impacted on the slat armor, it detonated the warhead. The round defused in that space."

There were no casualties of any kind, he said, and there was "very, very minor damage to the vehicle."

The crew continued its patrol. The patrol was conducting neighborhood engagement, interacting with local citizens.

The crew identified the assailant and tried to call an OH-58 helicopter in on it, but the helicopter crew was unable to regain contact with the assailant.

It was a typical "drive-by" shooting, Ham said. A car drives up about 100 meters away, a gunner pops out of the window or the sun roof and fires the weapon, and the car speeds away.

"We're not surprised the slat armor worked the way it was intended to, and we continue to have great confidence in the Stryker vehicle," Ham said.

All of the 300-plus Strykers in the brigade have this cage.

Falco
02-11-2004, 11:15 AM
what happened to the striker that was hit by an RPG but didn't have the protective cage?

Sergei
02-11-2004, 11:55 AM
And what happened to the one, which after explosion overturned into a Tigris canal and buried three soldiers under?

perdurabo
02-11-2004, 12:03 PM
this cage it's so simple :) but russians where first with this :) i've seen projects of BTR with cage.

hedgehog
02-11-2004, 12:28 PM
Those were first used Panzer Mark III an IV s during WWII against Russians anti tank weapons. Then used to a certain extent on US Shermans in Western Europe.

Sixgun Symphony
02-11-2004, 03:46 PM
So what does the Stryker do that the M113 does not do?

Royal
02-11-2004, 03:51 PM
Those were first used Panzer Mark III an IV s during WWII against Russians anti tank weapons. Then used to a certain extent on US Shermans in Western Europe.

Those were spaced armour sheets, not wire cages. Similar idea, different method. They were also used on British SF (security Forces) APC's and buildings in Northern Ireland


So what does the Stryker do that the M113 does not do?

Move fast, on and off road.

Operation Ivy
02-11-2004, 05:17 PM
So what does the Stryker do that the M113 does not do?

Look Cool

marktigger
02-11-2004, 07:08 PM
yep I remember Saracens and Pigs with Kremlin and kremlin 2 mesh on them in Belfast when i was a kid.

Uninen
02-11-2004, 07:30 PM
"slat armor" is nothing new, Soviets used those in ww2, to defeat German Shaped Charge weapons..

http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t34_85/t34_85_4.jpg
"The T-34-85 crew savors the victory in front of Branderburg Gates. Despite all western claims, the Russians did not use bedsprings as protection against German Panzerfausts and Panzerschrecks. The Soviet industry manufactured various shields instead. On this photo you can see a kind of shield made of 8-mm wire."

http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t34_85/t34_85_2.jpg
"The T-34-85 medium tank of the 36th Tank Brigade of the 11th Tank Corps. Berlin. April 30, 1945."

;)

Javehn
02-11-2004, 07:34 PM
It's so so old idea . Everybody using it , or used it .
Soviet T55 had this , they called it "Lenin bed " .
British "cans" vehicles had them in Ireland , British Brocky towers had them , every bases in dangerous areas had them .

Durandal
02-11-2004, 07:42 PM
So what does the Stryker do that the M113 does not do?

Better Armor, Better Engine, Wheeled (less maint), faster, smoother, better handling, more comfort, better mine/IEDsurvivability...it is the forst step of the Interim Vehicle Series. Eventual the Stryker/Interim Brigade will use a series of Modular Stryker/LAV III. You will have Recce, IFV, ATGW, Mortar, Command, Ambulance, NBC, etc.. The logistics footprint of the Brigade is MUCH smaller than that of a similar sized unit with a traditional force makeup, mainly because they will use nothing but Strykers and light vehicles (Humvees and Trucks).

The Interim Brigade also has a fairly advanced intelligence gathering and C&C infrastructure that a unit its size normally does not have.

The role of the unit is for Security(mainly supply routes logistic chains and post conflict policing) and as a RDF, since a broken down Stryker can ride on a C130 and you can get a crap load on to a RORO or whatever deployment ship they are using these days.

RuSoKaR
02-11-2004, 08:39 PM
It's so so old idea . Everybody using it , or used it .
Soviet T55 had this , they called it "Lenin bed " .

There were also called "umbrellas".
There is even a site with a picture of it, but it's down right now... :(

Uncle Sam
02-11-2004, 08:41 PM
Old...New...It don't matter...As long as it works !

RuSoKaR
02-11-2004, 08:42 PM
but it's also means "stealing ideas"

Uncle Sam
02-11-2004, 08:43 PM
but it's also means "stealing ideas"

More like "borrowing". Anyway, what are they gonna do...Sue the U.S. I don't think stuff like this is copyrighted.

Durandal
02-11-2004, 08:45 PM
but it's also means "stealing ideas"

Huh?

RuSoKaR
02-11-2004, 08:45 PM
well you are getting something from that so maybe you need to pay some money for peope who developed it.

Uncle Sam
02-11-2004, 08:50 PM
well you are getting something from that so maybe you need to pay some money for peope who developed it.

I don't think it works that way.

Operation Ivy
02-11-2004, 08:57 PM
but it's also means "stealing ideas"

You could say that about alomost every military thing ever tanks,planes,guns

Durandal
02-11-2004, 09:00 PM
well you are getting something from that so maybe you need to pay some money for peope who developed it.

Nevermind...this is pure silliness...

Nizark
02-11-2004, 09:26 PM
i posted this a couple weeks ago

James
02-11-2004, 09:36 PM
well you are getting something from that so maybe you need to pay some money for peope who developed it.

Okay, the entire world can pay the United States for developing powered flight. And military submarines. And armor for naval vessels.

I think it's a rather silly idea, myself...

Operation Ivy
02-11-2004, 09:53 PM
i posted this a couple weeks ago

Yea i know :hug: but incase u didnt notice on this forum we argue about everything at least twice for some reason :|

Durandal
02-11-2004, 10:16 PM
Yea i know :hug: but incase u didnt notice on this forum we argue about everything at least twice for some reason :|

Hey, screw you man!




:D

Yard Ape
02-11-2004, 10:16 PM
So what does the Stryker do that the M113 does not do?
120 km/h

provide crew survivability in a mine stryke

protection from 7.62 mm fires

carry 11 soldiers comfortably