Deployment Gear

[ThePunisher]

Lets say that you have around $1,000 to $1,500 to spend on gear that you plan on deploying to Iraq within the next few months. You are a combat infantryman with a basic USMC loadout and nothing more.
What would you spend your money on?
The reason that I'm asking is because I am in this situation. I'm looking into the Oregon Aero BLSS kit (anyone have a review?), some Danner Boots(suggestions? looking into the Desert Acadia and Hot temperate USMC authorized boot), some optics for my new A4 (either Aimpoint or ACOG), and a few other comfort items. Does anyone have any suggestions as to whatelse I should look into?
I did a basic search and did not find this topic. Sorry if it is a repost.
Thanks for your help in advance.

[Crewdog]

The helmet upgrade kit is a lifesafer man. I would highly recommend it. As well as a decent underarmor shirt.

As for the weapon sight it just depends on what you hope to do with it. The ACOG is a 4x magnifier IIRC and the aimpoint is a reflex sight.

[ThePunisher]

As for the weapon sight it just depends on what you hope to do with it. The ACOG is a 4x magnifier IIRC and the aimpoint is a reflex sight.
Yeah I'm familiar with the ACOG. I just cant decide on which ACOG, the TA01NSN, or one of the TA31 models. I don't know much about the Aimpoints though. Thanks for the info about the BLSS kit.

[Seraphim]

If your going to get the ACOG, you wont have any money left!

[ThePunisher]

If your going to get the ACOG, you wont have any money left!

Yeah I understand. I'd try to get a used one or one off of ebay for around $700. If the optics weren't included in my budget though? We might get optics for our new A4's, so I wouldnt look at buying one until I found out for sure.

[DnA]

I've heard a lot of good things about the BLSS. I own a pair of danner acadias, they are an awesome pair of boots, can't go wrong with them. Optics, I woulden't worry to much about that, I'd assume you'd get them, especially being Infantry. Good pair of ballistic goggles(I like ESS) are good to have.


Probably get these issued, but kneepads and a camelbak are good to have.

Also, don't have to add combat infantryman, is there any other kind?

[Beppo]

Isn't the phrase "combat infantryman" strictly an Army term?
And, I could be wrong, but aren't Marines issued the Danners?

Just askin', is all...

[TacoDelRio]

Those BLSS kits, wish I had one. Normal PASGT suspension digs into your friggin skull.

I think the TA31 ACOG is USMC issue, so you might end up with that. Nice piece of glass! (or ass)

If you go with an Aimpoint-type optic, I'd personally suggest an EOTech if they let you mount it. It doesn't require a seperate mount, and you can get ones that accept AA batteries, which I'm sure may be in a bit more abundance than N or whatever style batteries. Plus the dman things cost about the same, within about $20 usually.

Good luck!

[Daga]

Are you being issued a Pasgat or the new Marine Corps lightweight helmet? With my Pasgat the BLSS was absolutely fantastic (i usually get major headaches with the old suspension system) - you might want to check if the blss will work with the gentex marine corps helment if that is what you are being issued... I just looked at it and it doesn't look like a mich - the suspension system looks like the pasgats...

Edit to add: Just found out marines are not being issued the new helmet on a large scale. That's pretty crap!

[ThePunisher]

Isn't the phrase "combat infantryman" strictly an Army term?
And, I could be wrong, but aren't Marines issued the Danners?

Just askin', is all...

Combat infantryman is more of an army term yes. Marines are not issued Danners though.

[ThePunisher]

Are you being issued a Pasgat or the new Marine Corps lightweight helmet? With my Pasgat the BLSS was absolutely fantastic (i usually get major headaches with the old suspension system) - you might want to check if the blss will work with the gentex marine corps helment if that is what you are being issued... I just looked at it and it doesn't look like a mich - the suspension system looks like the pasgats...

Edit to add: Just found out marines are not being issued the new helmet on a large scale. That's pretty crap!

The Marine Corps is poor, so I have the old PASGAT helmet. A buddy of mine just got the BLSS kit but has not installed it yet. Chances are that if we do get optics, it will be only a few Marines per platoon or squad that are considered "Designated Marksmen" not all of us.

[crazyman]

here are some things i brought over or was issued by the unit that really came in handy

oakley M frames: your gonna want good eye pro, and wiley Xs suck.
gloves: the brigade issued tactical tailor impact ones, wore em constantly
good kneepads: again, from TT
taclight: easy way to signal oncoming LNs to git outa the area at night, among other things
underarmour shirts: duh
camelbak: went n got a hydration holder that worked with MOLLE, one less thing to worry about
ammo pouches: i happen to like blackhawks stuff, but thats just preferance

LBE: theres' a million out there. I happened to use TT stuff simply because its around here and i could go and play around with how i wanted to set up. my system was keep the essentials on the front, everything else was on the sides(MBITR, pouch for batteries, laser designator, etc)...and the stuff you arent gonna use much at all (aidbag, nods) went on a belt (normal TA50 belt that had my M9 and ammo on it) around the kidney area. jes how i happen to like it. this is probably dumbing it down but id suggest playin around with several ways to do things and figure out what you like. i liked having only things that went boom right in front of me, kept everything else out of the way.

as for optics, i had an M68 on my M4, but if i had it to do over again, id get either an EOtech, or one of the older ACOGs. the one without the low light setup(easily spotted by the rather large red stripe on the top of the new ones) i used both types, and i jes prefer the older ones more. also the older ones have iron sights on top, which helps out with room clearing some. the M68 aint bad at all, but if your gonna spend some money, those are the two i happened to like.

didnt mean to rant, hope some of this is usefull

[Beppo]

You won't really need to bring that many "comfort items" because the US has been there for so long there are PXs almost everywhere, selling anything from cold sodas & snacks to big screen TVs and the latest DVDs.
That said I recommend a couple rolls of toilet paper cause you never know when you'll need it.
Also, a Surefire flashlight. It's the only thing I used every single day out there...besides my porn collection.

[James]

Take a cooling neck wrap. They have these little crystals inside that absorb water and expand. They are wonderful on hot days.

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=12836345&parent_category_rn=4501449&vcat=REI_SEARCH

I'm scared of wearing underarmor... I don't think it's very flame retardant. They also get stinky real quick.

[ramy]

If you do plan on purchasing some sort of optics for your rifle remember to keep your receipt.. I remember reading of a few cases of people bringing optics on their deployments and not being able to get them back because they cant prove that it belong to them.

[LthrnckZero]

I'm scared of wearing underarmor... I don't think it's very flame retardant. They also get stinky real quick.

Agreed on that one. UnderArmour, while quite nice for hot weather, is NOT flame retardant. That's one of the reasons the USMC did not approve UA for wear. However, some shirt that looks exactly like UA, only cheaper, is now available in most exchanges. I don't know if they're flame retardant or not.

Wait on the optics. See if you get one issued first, then decide from there. You can always order one and have it sent to you.

The BLSS is kickass, much, much better than the old school suspension. Is it expensive? Very. Is it worth it? I would say so.(I got mine for free so I can't truly make that call) Call Oregon Aero and tell them your situation, they may hook you up with some sort of deal. Their customer service is great and they are dedicated to getting us the gear we need. The only knock I have on the BLSS is that the pads are stiff when they are cold, so it may be uncomfortable for the first few minutes on your head if it is cold.

The Danner boots are great IMO but I have not put them through too much abuse. I have also not heard how they are holding up in combat, but I would put money on them. Just like the BLSS, they're expensive but I'm glad I bought mine.

A good pair of gloves(Hatch) and some ballstic sunglasses and goggles to round it out. Oakley has a government sales program to help us out.(read: you get them cheaper than anywhere else.)

Check out www.extremeoutfitters.us for your gear needs. They are right outside of Lejeune on Western Blvd.

[Sabre]

Crazyman: (and anyone else)

You mentioned oakleys for eyewear, what is your opinion on ESS kit? Namely the Advancer and ICE models? Apparently that's what we brits get issued.

Also, who in the US uses MBITR? Just curious.


I second the flame retardant issue, if you are going to spend a lot of time inside vehicles or aircraft, then burns are a big risk. I'd much rather not have a permanent UA shirt tattoo, thanks very much!

For cold weather, a nomex/wool mid layer worn next to the skin is an option, or perhaps silk is a possibility all year round? I've never tried silk, but I think I might give it a go.

This is a nomex/merino wool mid layer shirt from arktis:
http://www.arktisltd.co.uk/Products/1514_Antarctica_05.jpg

Flame-resistant base layer (nomex or kermel viscose) from Anson tactical:
http://www.ansontactical.co.uk/acatalog/roll_neck_kv.jpg

[crazyman]

couldnt even begin to guess at who uses mbitrs...i know we do, and i know SF does, thats all i can tell ya. Its one of those fun things we picked up right before we left. they def come in handy.

as for ESS, we got issued their goggles (dong ask me which type, damned if i know...the things look like ski goggles) and they aint bad...only downside is that they hold in heat and fog up. we got the oakleys because they allow air to move around some. Also because its easy as hell to switch the lenses out if your out for a long time.

on UA...RFI gave us a cupla t shirts that felt like normal t shirts but had the same sweat soaking abilities, so thats what i wore most of the time. no like wearing underarmour is really going to make a huge diff...once you hit march n april its going to be hot as **** and your gonna be soaked in sweat no matter what you do.

[Beppo]

Personally, UA made a HUGE difference to me! I wasn't nearly as "soaked" as I normally would have been in regular issue tshirts, but that's just me.

[oregongrunt]

Get a pair of thin gloves to wear, for example flight gloves. Your black rifle gets hot to handle sometimes when its especially hot.

[NOR_KNet]

The helmet upgrade kit is a lifesafer man. I would highly recommend it. As well as a decent underarmor shirt.

As for the weapon sight it just depends on what you hope to do with it. The ACOG is a 4x magnifier IIRC and the aimpoint is a reflex sight.

I am just wondering what kind of updates for the helmet?

I' a curious norwegian.

[Sabre]

couldnt even begin to guess at who uses mbitrs...i know we do, and i know SF does, thats all i can tell ya. Its one of those fun things we picked up right before we left. they def come in handy.

as for ESS, we got issued their goggles (dong ask me which type, damned if i know...the things look like ski goggles) and they aint bad...only downside is that they hold in heat and fog up. we got the oakleys because they allow air to move around some. Also because its easy as hell to switch the lenses out if your out for a long time.

on UA...RFI gave us a cupla t shirts that felt like normal t shirts but had the same sweat soaking abilities, so thats what i wore most of the time. no like wearing underarmour is really going to make a huge diff...once you hit march n april its going to be hot as **** and your gonna be soaked in sweat no matter what you do.

Right-o, you're in the Stryker lot aren't you? I wasn't sure how far the MBITR was issued outside of SF.

Was asking about the ESS goggles cos I just bought some off ebay. They're the new 2005 kind with air vents to prevent fogging (apparently), so that ought not to be a problem. Cheers.

[Scorpion]

I am just wondering what kind of updates for the helmet?

I' a curious norwegian.
check out this one: http://www.oregonaero.com/p81_2001.html

[GeorgiaBoy]

I'm collecting all types of info for one of my best friends who is down in Basic at Benning right now. When he gets out I'll let him read it.
I took this from the Lightfighter Forum as you can tell, these are not my own words.


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RAPOSABJJ, you head downrange with OIF-IV, 2nd Brigade? Some of my bros are
going. The BRT, is it K-Troop? I trained up for OIF-III with TF Dragoon, came home off
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back filled my plt. Don't know what you'll get but the medic attached to my scout plt.
got the molle vest w/ all the pouches and the molle medic pack issued to him.. Push
training on the guys your assigned to. Tourniquets, IV's, etc. We also got lots of the
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leave for Tx. in 5 days, draw equipment and head over. Good luck with your mission!
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Gear List for Deployment to SW Asia
Let me start by saying that this is a list of what I took, what I wish I had taken, and
what I would have taken had I been allowed. This is all-inclusive and may include
items that you’ll find you won’t need or already have. It is not in order of importance
(although, I would definitely put the MICH/ACH Helmet at the top of my own priority
list). If you haven’t been issued these items, they can all be found at
www.lightfighter.com unless noted otherwise.
-MICH Helmet (also called TC-2000 or ACH). If you have to wear a combat helmet for
any period of time this one is probably the best and will save you from fatigue and
headaches. It is also DOT approved as a motorcycle helmet and is neutrally buoyant.
The old Kevlar Helmet would literally wear you down the longer you had to wear it. If
you can’t get your hands on a MICH helmet, then at least get the Oregon Aero BLU
upgrade and the Specialty Defense 3-Point chinstrap for the K-Pot. This upgrade kit
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takes a couple of minutes to install and basically converts your K-pot suspension over
to MICH. Unfortunately, this won’t improve the helmet shape or ballistic protection
that MICH provides, but it will greatly increase the comfort.
-Lightfighter RAID Pack. This is an assault pack that I designed along with the owner
of Lightfighter Tactical, SSG Brad Nelson. It was developed based off of our own
experiences in the Army. It has all the features that were never available in an
Assault Pack until this one. You may not be doing much, if any, straight Infantry stuff,
but it will make your life a lot easier for the day to day living. I lived out of mine for
days and weeks at a time and it never let me down. In addition to being the best
assault pack ever made, it is also a great day pack and carry-on bag. Make sure to
take some extra pockets for the exterior. This will allow you to configure it as a larger
pack if you need the additional space.
-E&E Kit (Escape and Evasion kit). This is something that you will probably have to
put together yourself, but the guys at www.prosurvivalkit.com also make some really
good ones. It should include just the essentials you would need to survive if on your
own for a unknown period of time in a given setting. Meaning, it should be specifically
tailored to your environment and mission. Some suggestions are: small supply of high
energy food (MRE, sport bars, and the like), means to collect food locally (fishing line,
hooks, snares, etc.), cash in local currency and/or American money, signaling
devices (strobe, whistle, mirror, etc.), small medical kit, small amount of water or
means to collect water (purifying tablets, solar still, etc.), solar blanket, etc. Some
neat items I’ve just heard about are the Hydration Tech Forward Osmosis pouches
found at www.hydrationtech.com. They can turn muddy, bacteria ridden swamp water
into drinkable water in a few hours with no mixing, pumping, or moving parts. Some
people will say an E&E kit is essential, but depending on your mission you may not
need a full-blown survival kit. Think Bravo Two Zero compared to Blackhawk Down; A
week of surviving on your own as opposed to 18 hours of surviving on your own. Your
mission and environment will dictate what you need to carry. Me personally? I kept
one stripped down MRE, $300 in American currency, small med kit, 9 volt IR strobe
and orange SERE panel, and a lightweight solar blanket (mirrored on one side,
brownish-tan on the other) in my right cargo pocket at all times. After I had stripped
down the MRE, I put the other items back into the MRE pouch and sealed it with
100-mile-an-hour tape. I have found out since then that the Regular and Large
versions of CSM Gear’s Fanny Pack www.csmgear.com are a great way to carry an
E&E kit or other miscellaneous items.
-PVS-14 Night Vision Monocular. I don’t know how you will be outfitted, but I would
put this item at the top of my own packing list. Their use will give you such a huge
advantage at night that you will wonder how you got along without them. Don’t forget
all the equipment to attach it to your helmet and to wear it as a stand-alone unit. The
compass attachment for the lens is a neat extra. It allows the wearer to instantly get a
direction reading without having to lift up the NOD and dig out a compass. Consider
getting a small protective case for them that attaches directly to your vest or assault
pack. Blade-tech makes a good one, but loctite all the screws and mounting hardware
before you use it.
-Sand and sun goggles. Although I’ve heard some bad things about them, I found that
in the dry heat the Wiley X SG-1’s worked well and the lenses didn’t fog that much. I
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usually sweat pretty badly too. I liked them because the were much less bulky than a
standard set of goggles, but still offered excellent protection from sun, sand, and
wind. I also like the Bolle T-800 Tactical Goggles, but any quality set of goggles that
you’re comfortable with will do just fine. At a minimum, the goggles you choose
should be well vented and offer the ability to replace lenses should they become
scratched or damaged. For protecting and covering the lens, I recommend the cut off
sock technique over a flap cover. The flap cover only protects the goggles against
damage. They will fill with sand and crud and be useless when you need them. ESS
brand goggles come with a spandex “tube” that works even better than the time
tested cut off sock.
-Sunglasses. Same deal as the goggles. I like the Oakley XX’s. They offer wrap
around protection and to be honest, they just look really cool. A better idea might be
to bring a cheap pair that you don’t mind getting scratched and beaten to hell.
-A couple of good scarves or shemaghs. You’ll find a hundred uses for them, but
mostly they keep the sand from going down your shirt during sandstorms and while
driving or flying around.
-“Boonie” style hat. Helps keep your face, ears, and neck from getting burnt. Also
keeps the sun out of your eyes.
-Comfortable, light-colored, loose fitting uniform. Whether you wear 5.11’s, DCU’s,
flightsuits, or whatever, make sure that they are durable and loose fitting. Make sure
you take some warm stuff too. Depending on where you’re at, the nights will start
getting cold sometime in September. The sleeves of your blouse should have pockets
on them if you’re going to be wearing armor outside the gates. The Crye Precision
combat/field uniforms look very promising and their proprietary Multicam pattern is
extremely effective over a variety of terrain.
-Take a pair of comfortable, well broken in boots. The Wellco Desert Tuffkushion
Boots are awesome. They feel like a set of broken in boots right out of the box. It
doesn’t really matter which color you get. They will be sand colored by the end of the
first week. I would take a pair of Hot Weather style boots for every 3 months you’re
going to be over there. A lot of different manufacturers are making “Assault Boots”
these days that supposedly feel like you’re wearing running shoes. You may want to
give one of those a try. For cooler weather, just take some thicker socks. For lots of
walking, only wool or synthetic socks will do. Cotton socks will eat your feet up and
they will look like hamburger meat by the end of the first long movement. Then after
they have eaten up your feet, the cotton socks themselves will fall apart. Blisterguard
socks and Smartwool come to mind.
-Take a set of amplified hearing devices like the Peltor Comtac or Tac-6. I think that
amplified hearing devices are great at what they do, but they really shine when the
bullets start flying. I went without when I was there and just used foam plugs, but
since communication is one of the most important aspects of combat, I’d definitely
give mine a try if I went back. If you have get the model with the integrated
communications package (like the TCI Liberator Headset) that’s even better as they
work with your team radio and offer you amplified hearing.
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-Load carrying equipment. I’m going to assume that you’ll be wearing some kind of
armor anytime that you’re not asleep. I would highly recommend the releasable or
non-releasable versions of Paraclete’s RAV Armor. If you can lay your hands on one,
Eagle’s MLCS/RLCS Releasable Armored Vest is also a top preference. Point
Blank’s FSBE armor is another good choice and it’s what I wore in the sandbox. Use
IIIA soft armor panels and Level III or IV hard armor plates depending on your known
threats. Take extra pockets that you think you might need so that you can tailor your
load to specific threats and missions. The Eagle MLCS or the Paraclete
LCS/Assaulter kit both have a variety of pockets, vests, and a bag in which to carry
them around. They are expensive, but contain enough pouches to create an unlimited
number of load carrying options. Don’t worry about taking to much kit. If nothing else,
there will be guys over there that will need items that you have and aren’t using that
you can barter with.
On this armor I would carry:
-8 to 16 M4 mags (depending on mission). I always carried one or two of these mags
on my first line (in pockets or on trouser belt). We also carried an MRE box full of
loaded mags, frags, and smokes in each vehicle. If the **** really hit the fan you had
a stash to grab from. Keep the mags in their cloth bandoleers so that you can grab
one and get away from the bullet magnet. I mean vehicle.
-3 to 6 sidearm mags (depending on caliber and magazine capacity)
-Couple of frags
-Couple of smokes (the A.L.S. Tactical Coverage Pocket Smokes are a great option
in a small package)
-Couple of bangs
-A handful of visible and IR chem-lights
-3 Liter camelback
-Small first aid kit for everyday cuts and boo-boo’s
-Small trauma kit (with IV and starter kit (optional), Quick Clot, tourniquet, and several
blow out bandages. The Marine issued IFAK is a good starting point.)
-GPS. Make sure to play with it a lot before you need it. These are an excellent
navigation tool, but if you are not totally confident in their use they can be confusing.
-Compass and map. Once again, make sure you’re confident with these before you
need them. You don’t need a huge military style compass. One of the simple,
lightweight hiking versions will do just fine.
-Day/Night signaling devices (9 volt strobe, whistle, orange signal panel, mirror, etc.).
It might be a good idea to keep these on your first line too.
-Note pad, pen, and pencil.
-Team radio
-“Leatherman” style multi-tool. I like the Gerber Multi-tool.
-Small flashlight. (i.e. Inova Microlight).
-Cigarette lighter (a Bic is fine. The Zippo lighters are nearly worthless except to
barter with.)
It’s a lot of stuff and it gets heavy when you wear it all day, but this kind of work isn’t
for the weak or feint of heart. You’ll get used to it.
-If you’re doing any low visibility protection or security work where you can only wear
soft armor, you should consider taking a plate carrier. This will allow you to instantly
upgrade your armor level to protect against rifle threats by just throwing it on over
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your soft armor. They’re all about the same, but Tactical Tailor makes a good one at
a good price. The SO Tech Callahan vest is also quite versatile. It combines a plate
carrier with a removable chest harness. It’s pretty neat.
-I would take a bayonet. They can be very intimidating when you’re not allowed to just
shoot people. A lot of the people you will meet are used to having guns shoved in
their faces, but a bayonet is almost supernatural. People will acknowledge it. It’s not
much of a field knife, but it’s great for crowd control. For that matter I would probably
take all the typical crowd/prisoner control stuff. Baton, mace, flex/hand cuffs, Taser,
etc.
-I’d take a chemical protective mask too, but I doubt it will ever come out of the duffel
bag. You may want to consider taking a chemical protective suit like the JSLIST (or
Saratoga Suit). There are still a lot of chemical weapons unaccounted for and recent
reports suggest that the insurgents in Iraq are trying hard to acquire the WMD’s left
over from Saddam’s regime. I know the M40A1 protective mask inside and out so
that’s what I use, but whatever you take, I would recommend that it be compatible
with military replacement parts as they are easier to locate in country.
-Don’t worry too much about rain gear, but you may want to consider something along
the lines of a lightweight Gore-Tex jacket. When combined with layered clothing this
could also be used as your cold weather jacket. It didn’t rain on us much, but when it
did it was cold and there was lots of it.
-Wris****ch. The Casio G-shock is an excellent choice. It is a good, inexpensive,
durable watch. It has a stopwatch feature, an alarm, and is waterproof down to 600
feet (not that you’ll ever use that feature).
-Lip balm, sunscreen, and insect repellent. The mosquitoes over there can be pretty
bad depending on your location and the flies are really, REALLY bad no matter where
you’re at. You might want to take some fly strips or poison.
-Hammock. The $10 kind they sell at Military Clothing Sales packaged by Brigade
Quartermaster works great. I think it holds 500 pounds as a hammock and can be
used for a dozen different uses (cast net, hide site, etc.). They are super comfy, pack
down real small, and help to keep you cool while you try to sleep. They keep your feet
elevated giving them a much-needed rest. Be wary of using a hammock when it starts
getting cold at night. It will keep you a little too cool.
-Sleeping bag. I actually got away with using just a poncho liner the whole time I was
there, but in the winter months you will definitely need something warmer. I like the
two season bags that pack down real small like the Artkis Halo 3 or the Snugpak
Merlin. The Wiggy’s bags are really well made, but don’t pack down as small and the
owner is crazy! You can add a waterproof outside “Bivy Sack” to these and they are
usually good as long as you are dressed appropriately and the air temperature stays
above freezing. A good sleeping pad is almost as important as the bag. It will provide
an insulating cushion of air between you and the ground. You can find these at any
good hiking and camping store. If you get the inflatable kind be sure to buy and bring
the patch kit.
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-Snivel gear. The Infantry axiom, “Pack light, freeze at night,” is as old as it is true. I
froze my ass off the first couple of weeks in country until our “comfort items” caught
up with us. I would recommend at least a few lightweight, compressible layers that
you can take with you if needed. The Arktis Stowaway Shirt saved my ass on several
nights. That and the issued Polar Fleece watch cap; these two items will bottle the
heat in enough to let you sleep comfortably during the spring and fall nights. During
winter you will need true cold weather gear at night.
-Knee Pads. I only used one on my right knee, because that’s the one I drop to when
“taking a knee.” I wore both though and just kept the left pad pushed down around my
ankle. It’s there if you need it, but won’t aggravate your leg where the straps rub. I
can’t wait till someone invents a comfortable kneepad. But until they do, the Alta
brand kneepads with the buckle closure are probably the best. Several uniform
companies are making jackets and trousers with slot pockets for foam padding (tool
box liner works well) already built into the knees and elbows. BDU’s can also be fairly
easily modified in this manner at home or by your local seamstress.
-Batteries. You may be supplied with these in country, but go ahead and take extras
for every item you have that requires them. If you have something that takes an odd
battery (like the M68 Close Combat Optic or CCO), then make sure you will be able
to resupply. If not, take your own stash.
-Tie-downs. We used these unfailingly for all of our high-dollar/sensitive items. Just
use a little bit of gutted 550 cord. This can save you a lot of heartache as some items
will be very difficult or impossible to replace in theater. I’ve seen several Joes with
laser aiming devices or red dot sights dangling off their weapon by their tie-down that
otherwise would have been damaged or lost. I’d take a couple hundred feet of 550
cord and a bag of heavy-duty zip-ties to be used for all kinds of field repairs and
tie-downs. 550 cord has a lot of other uses too. It can be used to replace boot laces,
hang heavy items, and the inner strands can even be used for heavy duty sewing.
-Gloves. I like the aviator style gloves that have become popular for tactical work
(military pilots have been wearing them since the Vietnam era). They are relatively
inexpensive, easy to find (you can get them through the military supply system), and
offer good dexterity and protection. They are a lightweight glove and tend to wear out
quicker than something like a work glove. The Hatch Operator CQB gloves are also
nice. They are more expensive, but have nicer features. I would find what you like
and take a pair for every 3 months you’ll be deployed.
-100 mile-an-hour tape (or duct tape). This stuff holds the world together. You will
never stop finding uses for it. I used to put a dozen wraps or so around each of my
canteens so that I’d always have some on me.
-Pocket knife. The tactical folders are nice, but even something like a Swiss Army
knife will work well. You may even find the Swiss Army knife to be more useful. If you
go with a tactical folder, I’ve had excellent luck with Benchmade, Spyderco and CRKT
knives. They are reasonably priced, hold an edge well, and require minimal
maintenance. Along those lines, make sure you take a knife sharpener. This may
seem obvious, but I could have made a fortune renting out the sharpener I took with
me.
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-Several Bic lighters. Even if you don’t smoke they are light weight insurance.
-Entertainment. You won’t be busy every second and it’s nice to have something to
pass the time. Books, Game Boy, CD player, pictures from home, etc.
-Carabineers/D-rings. Take a handful of the locking and non-locking styles. They are
almost as useful as 100 mile-an-hour tape or 550 cord. Make sure you get the ones
rated for climbing or rappelling and not the crappy, multi-colored key-chain style like
the ones found by the checkout at Wal-Mart. That way, you can use them for actual
load-bearing applications if needed.
-Digital Camera. You will see things that defy description and live through things that
will be a blur after time has gone by. I wouldn’t suggest snapping away in the middle
of a drama, but it will be nice to have a record of your experience. Take plenty of
memory or memory “sticks.”
-ID Tags. Have a set of “Dog tags” made up and wear them all day, every day. If the
worst happens it will make things easier on everybody. Make sure they have the
correct blood type on them. If you don’t know, go donate some blood to the Red
Cross and they will type your blood for you.
WEAPONS
-I’m assuming you’ll have an M4 or something similar. First, clean your weapon every
day. I think that the M4 is an excellent, reliable weapon, but the day you skip
weapons maintenance is the day you’ll need it most. I cleaned mine everyday before
anything else and after every time I had to fire it. If you ride on helicopters as much as
we did this becomes especially important. Those birds will find a way to get dirt and
grit into every crevice (yours and your weapon’s). The Army issued cleaning kit is a
good start. I would add a bottle of Strike Hold weapons lube. It goes on like any other
oil, but then evaporates leaving a Teflon-like coating that doesn’t attract dust or dirt
like oil will. The little shaving brushes used to apply shaving cream are also good for
brushing off your weapon in the sandy environment. Keep a muzzle cap on the end
and the dust cover closed when you’re not cleaning it or shooting it.
-Obviously, red dot sight, BUIS, and Surefire are a must. I still read articles where
people without any practical experience downplay the effectiveness of the red-dot,
collimator style sights. Iron sights are great and all, and they are necessary for
backup purposes, but if you really want to make hits, under stress, at a variety of
ranges, under any lighting condition, I believe that a CCO is essential. A Trijicon
TA01 ACOG is a good choice for longer shooting. The NSN model has a graduated
reticle that compensates for bullet drop over different ranges. The reticle is also
illuminated for low light shooting.
-If you’re able to take PVS-14’s or any sort of night vision devices then I think the M4
should have an IR laser-aiming device. Once again, huge advantage at night to be
able to bear down on your enemy without him even knowing he is being targeted.
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These can be tough to get as they are restricted items controlled by the FDA. Yes,
Food and Drug Administration.
-If I could have taken any weapon over there it would have been the M4 I carried with
the addition of a sound suppressor; Possibly an M4 with a 10.5 inch barrel and a
sound suppressor. Long story short, excessive loud noises are very distracting when
you’re trying to shoot, move, and communicate. And once you’re out of contact and
still alive, you want your hearing to be in good shape.
-Make sure all your mags are serviceable. If you can get your hands on them, take
some Heckler and Koch M4 mags. With a steel body and a metal follower, they are
the bee’s knees. If you’re using USGI magazines, the Enhanced Self Leveling
Follower from Magpul Industries Corporation is a good way to increase the reliability
and function of the standard magazine. I also like their Ranger Plates which makes it
easier to extract the magazine from its pouch. Both are “drop-in” parts and require no
tools or modification of the magazine. Magazines are the heart of a reliable weapon.
Keep them clean and very well maintained at all times!
-I would recommend either a Tango Down pistol grip, a VLTOR ModStock (or the
Crane NSW stock if you can find or afford one), or both. They allow you to carry a
variety of extra batteries on your weapon, which is a good thing. The Tango Down
pistol grip also eliminates the pinching effect that is occasionally experienced with the
trigger guard. If you’ve got a foregrip mounted, I would recommend the Tango Down
foregrip. It has a hollowed out storage compartment for batteries, extra bolt group,
cleaning oil, etc. There is also a slot that will accept a pressure pad if you use one for
your light or laser. Any or all of these would be a good addition.
-Slings. I found that while wearing armor, a sling just wasn’t working well. It was hard
to get on and off and for some reason it didn’t really work quite right. The buckles and
connections would get caught on the protuberances all over my armor and I couldn’t
always bring it to bear as quickly as I expected. So, I just kept my M4 clipped to my
Armor with a 1-inch side release buckle and some extra webbing I had. A bail snap
shackle (like the one found on Blackhawk’s Chalker Sling) found in almost any
hardware store works even better and is what I use on my armor now. This method
kept the carbine on my person, the buttstock in the pocket of my shoulder, and it was
convenient. I also kept a simple 3-point sling on it so that while not out and about I
could still carry it tactically without my armor on.
-If you get stuck with an AK47 it’s not the end of the world. There are plenty of options
for good tactical slings, the mounting of CCO’s, and other improvements to form and
function. The best advice I can give is to try and get one that hasn’t been beaten or
abused. I’ve heard good things about rifles made in any of the former Warsaw Pact
countries (i.e. Poland, East Germany, USSR, etc.), but as long as they aren’t
worn-out, AK’s seem to run pretty well in general. Whatever you wind up with shoot it
plenty before you trust your life to it.
-If you are issued or allowed a sidearm, I would carry it in a Drop Leg style holster.
This kind of holster will allow the weapon to be worn with armor and keeps it on your
person even if you aren’t wearing your other gear. Ideally, this holster should drop
down to just below your belt line. A lot of guys wear these too far down on their leg,
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just above their knee. This is incorrect and will slow your draw. It may also make it
uncomfortable to wear and allow the holster to slide and flop around on your leg.
Depending on what kind of work you’re doing, my favorites are London Bridge
Trading Company’s NSW Holster or the Safariland 6004, but Eagle and SOE make
great holsters too. I would also take a belt style concealment holster just in case. You
will need a thick sturdy belt off of which to hang them. The SOE Rigger Belt is my
favorite, but most of them are basically the same. Make sure it will fit the loops on
your trousers and make sure it is stiff and won’t sag. You can also wear a holster
attached to your armor (Tactical Tailor and Paraclete make good ones), but if you
aren’t wearing your vest then you will have to have a separate holster on your belt in
which to move your pistol.
-“Rambo” knives. For the weight of a big survival style knife, you could carry an extra
M4 mag or a couple of extra sidearm mags. You’re not going to be sneaking up
behind sentries or making a survival shelter out of bamboo so leave the giant knives
at home. A small, multi-purpose pocket knife will be infinitely more useful and
practical.
"The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're
****ed."

[GeorgiaBoy]

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Posts: 2654 | Location: SC | Registered: 19 November 2002
posted 23 November 2004 10:28 PM
wow;
what a long, time consuming post.
lots of good , specific , helpful info' there.
do u have a link/source for the p.v.s. 14? price?
many thanks
Cold Zero
Posts: 359 | Location: all over | Registered: 18 March 2004
posted 23 November 2004 11:15 PM
I am saving this one
Im a Seabee nuf said.
Posts: 270 | Location: CONUS, now a resident of NV. | Registered: 07 July 2003
posted 24 November 2004 11:33 AM
cold zero
Long Time Posting
Guy
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Long Time Posting Guy
hodge175
Yay! I get to use
the Swap meet!
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Good post Stephen, looks like we are heading out around January to start our state
side training for OIF-IV.
I am thinking about getting a RAID, just can't make up my mind on which color to get.
Looks like for now we will be doing alot of light infantry stuff, We are a Inf Batt from
PA. But that all may change when we get there.
Posts: 95 | Location: Pittsburgh,PA,USA | Registered: 27 January 2004
posted 24 November 2004 11:47 AM
The only thing I would add to stephen's post is to have seperate armor carrier/LCE. I
would use an IBA/TT Mav or Hellcat combo, depending on what you want to use.
Most posts require taht you wear body armor around on the post, and it is very nice at
the end of your day outside the wire to be able to drop your 18 mags full of ammo in
your room and go to chow a ****load lighter.
Never interrupt the enemy when he is doing something wrong.
- Erwin Rommel
Posts: 248 | Location: Iraq | Registered: 07 June 2004
posted 25 November 2004 03:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cold zero:
do u have a link/source for the p.v.s. 14? price?
many thanks
http://www.lightfighter.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=235
"The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're
****ed."
Posts: 2654 | Location: SC | Registered: 19 November 2002
posted 26 November 2004 04:20 AM
This is a great post. Thanks for taking the time to share your ideas and insights.
ATW- LT D (In the ROK)
mountainwolf
Long Time Posting
Guy
stephen
Gear Queer Admin
ROK
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Posts: 12 | Location: korea | Registered: 10 September 2004
posted 26 November 2004 10:15 AM
Good stuff Stephen!
Signal6Delta, OUT
SSAF Plankowner
Martini time!
Riding, Shooting Straight, And Speaking The Truth, 'Cause I'm Jeff Cooper, and
I carry a Glock, Biotch!
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Posts: 1631 | Location: Littleton, CO | Registered: 16 March 2004
posted 26 November 2004 10:52 AM
Great info. Infinately useful and comprehensive.
Posts: 18 | Location: Southern California | Registered: 24 December 2003
posted 26 November 2004 08:04 PM
Holy information overload Batman!!!
You need to start another thread with just that info on it. Anyone/everyone going
overseas could really use that.
"Sell 'crazy' somewhere else, we're all stocked up here!"
Posts: 184 | Location: Birmingham | Registered: 25 June 2004
posted 27 November 2004 10:57 AM
Looks like my Christmas wish list to Santa.
Good info.
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posted 05 January 2005 12:22 AM
Sorry to Necro but I have had a lot of requests. These are just MY thoughts as a CT.
Military guys will have different wants and needs.
Iraq Gear List
* Indicates that it should be an issued item.
Clothing
2) Sunglasses: Wiley-X (SG-1s) “sunglass goggles” work well for dust.
1) Goggles Bolle T-800
1) Clear Shooting / Safety glasses Wiley X
3) Under Armor T-shirts
2) Hiking Boots (Danner’s are GREAT.)
7) Socks- (Wigwam hiking socks worked great for me.) Take regular socks too.
2) Blue jeans
4) Khaki pants (5.11 or Columbia)
1) Swim trunks (for the Embassy sausage party)
1) Sturdy Pant’s Belt
2) Shorts (5.11 or Columbia)
4) Cotton T-shirts
4) Polos (thin and light)
4) Collared shirts long sleeve (cold weather)
2) Workout clothes
1) Workout / Running shoes
1) Rain gear
1) Flip Flops or sandals
1) Hat for sun protection
1) Sleep wear
2) Laundry Bags
1) Warm clothes Iraq gets into the low 30s with a lot of rain in the winter.
* Attempt to keep all ”operational” clothing in earth tones. NO BDUs!!
Weapons / Tactical Gear
1) GPS
2) Dog Tags with Blood Type
1) Map Case
1) Map Markers
1) Protractor
1) Poncho and Poncho Liner
1) Sleeping Bag
1) Gun cleaning and care kit
1) Compass
1) Gloves – Hatch Operator Shorties or equivalent
1) Strobe – MS2000 IR is the best
1) Pocket Binoculars
1) * Nylon Duty belt
1) * Tactical Holster – Safariland 6004
Yeager
Tactical Response
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1) Drop Leg Dual Magazine Pouch for M4
6-8) *Magazine pouches (M4, AK, and MP5…yes all of them) MOLLE compatible
1) *Pistol Magazine pouch for Glock 17/19
1) AK-47 Seventy Five round drum
1) Flashlight (Surefire)
1) *Weapon tactical sling (M4, AK, and MP5…yes all of them)Blue Force Gear
"Contractor Pack"!!!
1) Universal Pistol Holster – Galco Yaqui Slide
1) Surefire Weapon Lights
1) Red Dot Sight – Aimpoint M2 or ML2, EOTech 551 or 552
1) Red Dot Mounting Hardware (AK, M4, MP5..yes all of them)
1) Folding Pocket Knife
1) Multi-tool - Leatherman Wave or Gerber Multiplier
1) Fixed Blade Knife
1) *Body Armor (Level 4) and the following Pouches
• Medical Pouch and Medical Kit
• Rifle Magazine Pouches
• Pistol Magazine Pouches
• Frag Grenade Pouches
• Bang/Smoke Pouches
1) *Helmet – MICH 2000
1) Digital Camera
1) Personal firearms range equipment
?) Batteries for everything
1) Mini L.E.D. Light: I-Nova
General
2) Shaving Kit
1) Gold Bond
1) Chapstick
1) Sturdy backpack for bug out bag / E&E
1) Alarm clock battery operated
1) Watch
4) Pen, pencils, pocket sized notebook
?) Cash – Min $500 Plus Credit Cards
2) Lotramin AF foot powder
?) Medications: Sinus, Aspirin, Ointment, Imodium AD, etc
1) Vitamins
Comfort Items
1) CD/MP3/Walkman etc.
?) Books
?) Porn (If you go through Kuwait they will take it).
?) DVDs - Plenty
1) X box / PS2 - Can double as your DVD player
1) Laptop computer with wireless ability
Luggage
NOT Blackhawk type bags. They identify you as a Security Contractor in transit. Get
Samsonite or similar quality, but “non-tactical”, luggage. Preferably any color but
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black.
You will be able to buy many day to day things at the PX. It isn’t as well stocked as
Wal-Mart but it will have a lot of stuff you will need on a daily basis. The tactical stuff
will be the toughest to get so if you have to choose between toothpaste and Cordura
take the Cordura.
James Yeager President
Tactical Response LLC
www.WarriorMindset.com
Training At The Cutting Edge!
Office:731-676-2041
U.S. Cell: 731-336-4602
Iraqna: 011-964-790-164-5473
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NSN/NIIN Cheat Sheet as promised. Guys (and Gal's!) Bring these to your supply Sarge and he no longer has a good reason to NOT order stuff for you. When your unit gets it is a another story........
01-247-0362 15" GREEN CHEM LIGHT BX/5
01-265-0612 15" RED CHEM LIGHT BX/5
01-265-0614 15" BLUE CHEM LIGHT BX/5
01-265-0613 15" YELLOW CHEM LIGHT BX/5
01-247-0367 15" WHITE CHEM LIGHT BX/5
01-247-0366 15" IR CHEM LIGHT 3HR BX/5
01-445-3937 10" STANDING CHEM LIGHT BX/6
00-074-5122 TAPE 1" DK GREEN RO
00-890-9872 TAPE 1" OD RO
00-074-4961 TAPE 2" BLACK RO
00-074-5124 TAPE 2" DK GREEN RO
00-266-5016 TAPE 2" OD RO
00-074-4969 TAPE 2" RED RO
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00-074-5160 TAPE 3" DK GREEN RO
00-890-9874 TAPE 3" OD RO
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7510-00-164-8893 CHALK, MARKING WHITE GR
5110-01-346-5341 Multitool, Folding Pocket EA
00-174-6865 PANEL MARKER VS-17 EA
00-240-2146 550 CORD WHITE SL
00-262-2019 550 CORD GREEN (400 yards) SL
00-261-9772 MIRROR PERSONNEL LRG EA
00-105-1252 MIRROR PERSONNEL SML EA
00-285-4299 BOTTLE VACUUM 2QT EA
00-634-6555 BOTTLE VACUUM 1QT EA
01-346-7462 PADLOCK BRASS SHANK COMBO) EA
01-346-4611 PADLOCK STEEL SHANK EA
00-089-3827 CAN, WATER 5 GAL EA
01-337-5269 CAN, FUEL 5 GAL EA
6230-01-502-4073 IR strobe EA
01-471-1024 TRUNK LOCKER EA
8465-01-465-2272 ADAPTER, K-BAR MOLLE (WOOD) $3.20
8465-01-465-2289 PACK, MAIN, MOLLE (WOOD) $71.15
8465-01-465-2088 PACK, PATROL, MOLLE (WOOD) $66.55
8465-01-465-2082 BELT UTILITY MOLLE (USMC) $22.08
8465-01-465-2070 POUCH UTILITY 100RND (WOOD) $10.80
8465-01-465-2080 SET, BUCKLES, MOLLE (USMC) $2.65
8465-01-465-2057 POUCH, RADIO MOLLE (WOOD) $13.25
8465-01-465-2158 PACK, FRAME, MOLLE (WOOD) $31.35
8465-01-491-7519 PACK, MAIN, MOLLE (DCU) $66.95
8465-01-491-7438 PACK, PATROL, MOLLE (DCU) $62.55
8465-01-491-7446 POUCH, RADIO MOLLE (DCU) $11.85
8465-01-491-7449 PACK, FRAME, MOLLE (USMC, DCU) $26.81
8465-01-491-7525 ADAPTER, K-BAR MOLLE (DCU) $2.70
8465-01-495-0054 POUCH, RADIO MOLLE (ARCTIC CAMO) $8.94
8465-01-495-0063 ADAPTER, K-BAR MOLLE (ARCTIC CAMO) $3.45
8465-01-494-9667 POUCH UTILITY 100RND(ARCTIC) $8.78
6532-01-446-2594 MOLLE medic vest $318.74
1005-01-371-4462 Shotgun 12 Gauge, Riot Type 250.00
1005-00-106-7788 Pistol .45 Cal, Automatic 147.00
6135-01-106-7740 BATT, FINGER LIGHT $0.07
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8465-00-432-2073 CLIPBOARD, PILOT KNEE $139.82
5110-01-346-5341 MULTITOOL, GERBER $48.99
6230-01-411-8535 LIGHT, DISTRESS(AA BATTS) $88.50
6230-00-783-5713 AA DISTRESS LIGHT IR COVER
9330-00-618-7214 ACETATE, COMBAT, ADHESIVE $13.48
7210-00-935-6665 BLANKET CMBT, PLASTIC $5.96
7210-00-935-6666 BLANKET CMBT, TYPE II $6.45
7530-01-060-7511 MEMOBOOK, GREEN 3.5"X4.5"
6230-01-247-7549 MAG LIGHT, 3 D CELL $19.34
6230-01-353-4468 MINIMAG FLASHLIGHT AA $74.15
8345-00-174-6865 VS-17 PANEL $19.60
8315-01-222-0680 SAW KIT $9.50
9390-00-481-3424 GLET TAPE (IFF/IR TAPE) $169.86
6135-01-351-1131 ANCD 3PER ITEM 12/EA
6135-00-826-4798 MISC AAA 12/EA
6135-00-985-7845 MISC AA 24/EA
6135-00-985-7846 MISC C 12/EA
6135-00-835-7210 MISC D 12/EA
01-398-5922 M145/M68 batt EA
4110-01-452-7317 CHEST, ICE STORAGE

[akmarksman]

Marines AREN'T issued Danners??? shat..I thought they were.
If your not issued one..get a Surefire. If they let you mount a CCO..go with a EOTech..AA battery model.
MagCinch if it's allowed.
Can't stress this last one enough..but

Oakley!!!! eyewear..whether it's the M-frame or not..get some...You'll save your eyes.

[ThePunisher]

Marines AREN'T issued Danners??? shat..I thought they were.
If your not issued one..get a Surefire.


No, no issued Danners for me. The USMC approves a type of Danners for wear, but it is not in their budget to buy me some Danners. I have a Surefire Z2 that I plan on taking over there, but I was looking at the A1 Aviator because it has LED's and a 60 Lumen bulb. Anyone ever used one of these? I assume that if it's Surefire, then it's good.

[akmarksman]

You might be better off with a Surefire G2..but that's personal preference.
I'm going to buy a A2 Aviator for my dad's birthday..

Blade-Tech makes a sturdy Kydex horizontal holder for the Surefire G2..but I'm afraid your limited to the kydex model Surefire sells..the V70 speed holster. It should fit on your BDU belt.

[gtronin]

Re: goggles

dont have too much experience with goggles for duty, but I occasionaly use some ess goggles which are good, but then again I havent compared much. I had problems with the goggles fogging up on occasion, so I installed a minifan in it and I find it to be quite usefull... it cools a bit and clears the fog in notime. thats the only thing I can think of to try to help. maybe someone else knows more about the fans which can add his .02$