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StealthMode
02-12-2004, 11:00 AM
With so many flights being canceled in the last couple months, the one today (BA223 on Feb.11th) caused me to question the policy of blatantly canceling the flight..

The intelligence appears to be founded, and today as many days it seems they have detailed plans about what is going on.

So I ask...

Why are "they" just cancelling all these flights just to prevent their capture...and not allowing the plane to board its passengers to capture the suspects??

Why are "they" not setting up these flights as traps... allowing local police and/or FBI to have the plane under watchful eyes and security, to then prevent takeoff and screen the passengers on the plane?

It seems we are preventing possible hijacking by cancellation, but we could be having the same amount of security, prove intelligence capabilties, and subtract terrorists from the community that are using this strategy of terrorism.

By not capturing these suspects, it would seem, that they are just bouncing around flights until they are able to succeed finally?

What do you think?

Royal
02-12-2004, 12:11 PM
With so many flights being canceled in the last couple months, the one today (BA223 on Feb.11th) caused me to question the policy of blatantly canceling the flight..

The intelligence appears to be founded, and today as many days it seems they have detailed plans about what is going on.

So I ask...

Why are "they" just cancelling all these flights just to prevent their capture...and not allowing the plane to board its passengers to capture the suspects??

Why are "they" not setting up these flights as traps... allowing local police and/or FBI to have the plane under watchful eyes and security, to then prevent takeoff and screen the passengers on the plane?

It seems we are preventing possible hijacking by cancellation, but we could be having the same amount of security, prove intelligence capabilties, and subtract terrorists from the community that are using this strategy of terrorism.

By not capturing these suspects, it would seem, that they are just bouncing around flights until they are able to succeed finally?

What do you think?

Who says the terrorists are planning to board?

Ever heard of bombs? It has been proved that it is fairly easy to get a job as a baggage handler - and easy way to load a device.

Ever heard of SAMs? Al Qaida have already used them in Kenya. They have been used against coalition a/c in Iraq, as well as transport a/c flying from Bagdhad International Airport.

StealthMode
02-12-2004, 01:42 PM
Thanks for the input Royal.
I did not think about it at that angle, I was simply refering to threats of hijack. I am aware of the points you have mentioned, which of course would lead to a cancellation being one obvious course of action.

All of the threats have not, however, been based open bomb placement onboard, SAM threat, etc. It appears that at least the flight I have suggested (as well as the majority of the others lately) are hijack threats with intelligence to support the planes use such as 9/11.

And again, I pose my question? Why does cancellation seem to be the BEST procedure in dealing with this particular aspect of threat?

Is it just the first step, quickest, easiest to deter a possible security failure?

Royal
02-12-2004, 02:04 PM
Highjack is not what we're worried about.

That's all I'm going to say.

NcDeuce
02-12-2004, 02:46 PM
Better safe than sorry. Better safe than sorry...

StealthMode
02-12-2004, 02:49 PM
I disagree. The SAM, and bomb threat have been legitimized, but the majority of intelligence wholy points to Hijack and use of planes as weapons.

It is known, and published weekly that Al-qaeda still pursues planes as one of its major threats of attack against the US for instance.

http://washingtontimes.com/world/20030823-112756-6187r.htm

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/23/1071941730592.html?from=storyrhs

I could go on all day posting various media reports, and not even touching intelligence agency reports.


Highjack is not what we're worried about.

I'm trying to change your opinion, cant you tell.... ;) :hug:

Royal
02-12-2004, 02:51 PM
I disagree. The SAM, and bomb threat have been legitimized, but the majority of intelligence wholy points to Hijack and use of planes as weapons.

It is known, and published weekly that Al-qaeda still pursues planes as one of its major threats of attack against the US for instance.

http://washingtontimes.com/world/20030823-112756-6187r.htm

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/23/1071941730592.html?from=storyrhs

I could go on all day posting various media reports, and not even touching intelligence agency reports.


Highjack is not what we're worried about.

I'm trying to change your opinion, cant you tell.... ;) :hug:

How many IntReps do you read?

Roger Rabbit
02-12-2004, 03:04 PM
Is this not terrorism winning? They are disrupting peoples movement and gaining a lot of publicity without actually carrying out any attacks. Least not any that we have heard of.

Royal
02-12-2004, 03:08 PM
Is this not terrorism winning? They are disrupting peoples movement and gaining a lot of publicity without actually carrying out any attacks. Least not any that we have heard of.

My emphasis

StealthMode
02-12-2004, 04:22 PM
The fact that that the media alone recognizes "terrorists groups" creates their existence for them. Acknowledging them gives them power. Allowing them to have "offices" such as the ones recently shut down in Pakistan.. is just rediculous. Allowing them to have spokesmen, and not arresting them on sight when the publicly speak is rediculous.

Thats just me though... :|