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Firetxmi
12-10-2005, 11:26 AM
By MATT RICHTEL
Published: December 10, 2005
Most Americans carry cellphones, but many may not know that government agencies can track their movements through the signals emanating from the handset.

Tracing a Cellphone In recent years, law enforcement officials have turned to cellular technology as a tool for easily and secretly monitoring the movements of suspects as they occur. But this kind of surveillance - which investigators have been able to conduct with easily obtained court orders - has now come under tougher legal scrutiny.

In the last four months, three federal judges have denied prosecutors the right to get cellphone tracking information from wireless companies without first showing "probable cause" to believe that a crime has been or is being committed. That is the same standard applied to requests for search warrants.

The rulings, issued by magistrate judges in New York, Texas and Maryland, underscore the growing debate over privacy rights and government surveillance in the digital age.

With mobile phones becoming as prevalent as conventional phones (there are 195 million cellular subscribers in this country), wireless companies are starting to exploit the phones' tracking abilities. For example, companies are marketing services that turn phones into even more precise global positioning devices for driving or allowing parents to track the whereabouts of their children through the handsets.

Not surprisingly, law enforcement agencies want to exploit this technology, too - which means more courts are bound to wrestle with what legal standard applies when government agents ask to conduct such surveillance.

Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/technology/10phone.html?th=&adxnnl=1&emc=th&adxnnlx=1134231299-g/1hRagLg5419YaVZGeBjw



What do yall think? I agree with the new court rulings, I don't want anyone- especially not Govt. officials to know where I am without some kind of warrant.

Hemaworstje
12-10-2005, 12:46 PM
welcome to the real world , as it has any use to tap 600 billion people , just use the words jihad , terror etc as much as you can , so the dbase is filled with crap and therefore useless.
Nothing new, it is in the genes of a government to track its civilians, this is what the newspapers find out , that is the tip of the iceberg..
they already can see if i am wearing shorts or not when i am in my garden , they know what i type or say , they could find out what i dump at the toilet, let them, bring it on as long as they do not control my mind , but hmm they are working on that as well.
and no i am not paranoia of "chemical" drinkingwater, i just happen to be interested in that..
In live in Europe ,same tada over here ,don't worry , party till you drop i'd say..

.666 Caliber
12-10-2005, 03:25 PM
Just another reason why some of the components of the homeland security act seem more and more like bullsh*t to me. The Gov. is really overstepping its boundaries here. Some people are gonna piss and mone over the fact that I said the Homeland Security Act is BS but I think most of it was unneccessary. I see this as an extreme invasion of privacy. I truly question the motives of this method. We see how corrupt and f*cked up some of our gov. officials can be like that congressman who was a Vietnam Vet that was recently exposed to accepting bribes,etc. whatever his name was. He was a hero and trusted figure to some of the folks all over this country and even on MP.net. Who knows if these kind of things will truly be used in purpose or not by the upper Echelons of our gov. No man is perfect and no system can be without mistake or fault.

My opinion.

Firetxmi
12-10-2005, 04:01 PM
"Prosecutors in the recent cases also unsuccessfully argued that the expanded police powers under the USA Patriot Act could be read as allowing cellphone tracking under a standard lower than probable cause."

If they do not have probable cause then they do not need to be getting that information. It is scary to me that we are allowing ourselves to be bullied by the Govt. in the name of stopping terrorism.