General discussions?

[Argyll]

Ok gentlemen and Ladies(Md :hug: ) Given the insurge of Political Flaming and trolling in the past 5 days,I'd like to ask something to the forum members

This is MILITARYPHOTOS.NET correct?

The general dicussion board,is this a MILITARY General discussion board?

If so why all the political ****e being posted in this section and not in the Off topic/Homour section..........Politics should not be on a Military board,unless it has it's own section,where GENERAL MILITARY DISCUSSIONS cannot be taken off topic through outbursts of Islamaphobic,or Political beliefs,these should be in the OFF TOPIC discussions.......................they are not relevant to Military affairs or are they?

I'd like to see Politics be banned altogether,as it's detracting a great site into another hate filled forum,where people have got their sphincters and their mouth's mixed up(Maybe Gods way of humour but not mine! ;) )
Too many genuine folks Like Tane Angle,Royal,and a few others are being questioned over first hand accounts that they quite frankly do not have to prove to anyone here,somethings they will have to live with having seen them in 1st hand accounts,this is not a board of Inquiry into the rights and wrongs of war,BTDT's have no moral obligation to "Tell me what you did/saw,as I do not believe you" attitude being pressed by some newer members here,most of the BTDT's here are not spotty little kids who get *****s about war,most are late 30's upwards who are perhaps a little ashamed in seeing Mans inhumanity to man at 1st hand.
We ex serving members wherever we're from,be it the USA,UK,Russia,Norway wherevere have nothing to prove to the youth of today ,it is for them to prove to us they are worthy of our company,there are aspiring Soldiers Sailors and Airmen out there,but until that 1st TOD is over you are still greenhorns,and sprogs,I have the deepest respect for those who have pulled the uniform on and served not to get an education or it's a job,but to make a difference.It angers me when there are those here who will just not listen and look at the big picture,and slagging off people for their Beliefs,religion ,Race, Creed or colour is not on!
Leave Politics to those lying scheming manipulating bas*ards who get paid for it,and lets's get back to the military world again!

[Operation Ivy]

Yea i dont really like to get involved in those threads, but as long as some people keep posting Anti (put country here) articles then it will never stop :|

[fantassin]

Too bloody true.

Since visiting this site, I have an idea of what it must have been like to be a Jew in Germany under the 3rd reich; now, it's a case of if you are French, you are wrong and everything your country does is wrong.

[Uncle Sam]

Agreed !!!!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8561

[Jack Mehoff]

Too bloody true.

Since visiting this site, I have an idea of what it must have been like to be a Jew in Germany under the 3rd reich; now, it's a case of if you are French, you are wrong and everything your country does is wrong.

and Americans

[hank]

C'mon, Argyll. It is kind of fun to argue about it isn't it? Let's don't ban politics, please?

hank

[IDFM203]

Amen argyll :D

I would just also extend that to the photos section.

Hell this is supposed to be a site for military enthusiasts and former or currently serving BTDT's to swap photos or swap stories or tactics or simply to discuss all things military.

Its crazy that when I post pics in a MILITARY forum, I am forced to put this warning (here ill just repeat it……I ask that any flame comments be refrained from this thread…if you so desire to go continue with your rhetoric then please do so in the general section. A lot of times people forget that this is a MILITARY forum and any pics that might offend anyone’s leftist/liberal ideology (or more importantly, have no real clue as to the real situation and combat that the IDF has faced and has to have put up with) should keep the comments to himself or post it in the other general section and not pollute this thread on what is a collection of IDF photos on what is a militaryphotos forum.)


I frankly don’t understand at times what a lot of people are doing on a Military forum if they cant handle talking about man (or women ;) ) that have weapons to fight or to defend their nations.

You know there are a lot of pics or articles on military aspects or tactics that I hesitate to post or a lot of times don’t, simply because I don’t need to have some of these snot nosed kids (in a lot of cases) or even some adults go off on some aspects and exaggerate it out of proportion simply because they have no idea what its like to be in the military or to be in a real combat zone.

Hell just last week I PM’d a great IDF MOUT tactics article to a few “mature” members that asked for it, for I felt if I posted it here, there would be some statements there that some people would interpret completely out of any real context and I would be responding to unjustified flame rhetoric all day.

Shalom :D

[Jack Mehoff]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

[hank]

I got 2 sheds and whoever else he brings, b/c we know he can't handle me one on one.

hank

[UoUo]

I say...let hood give a politcal saction on this forum.

[Argyll]

I say...let hood gice a politcal saction on this forum.

I'd seconded that Uo Uo ;)

[Uncle Sam]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

Jack vs Jacks ego...juss kiddin' :lol:

[Argyll]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

Why not take them all on ,king of the ring scenario?
I'm sure you have that sewn up Jack mate?

[hood]

This is a hard call. International politics are often the precursor to military action. I'll get a poll going.

[Argyll]

I appreciate that Hood ,thank you very much.
Did you have a look at the "other thing"?

[FallenAngel]

Agreed.

It worked for the Airsoft stuff (I myself hardly ever visit that forum).

Of course, I assume that this will entail a little more moderation from the moderators.:lol: If a topic is started in the inappropriate forum, it must be moved immediately. If a discussion in progress turns into a political flame war, the thread should be closed and another thread should be started in the political forums.

You might need another moderator Hood. I nominate TP for his wonderful "people skills" :lol:

No...really....I think Farmgirl would be a fine moderator (and spell checker :lol:)

[Jack Mehoff]

farmalicious can't be a mod. She will ban me if i ever make any ****** innuendos

[WARPIG]

I think a seperate forum for politics is warranted. Like a lot of tech, photo, and humor stuff, it may creep into the general forum often enough but the bulk of the political stuff would fair well in it's own forum. That way if some of these flame yankers can call it home while we keep our military discussions in perspective

[Kingpin]

Well...
We're not discussing pure politics.
We discuss political issues only in case they're linked with military questions... Except some **** about presidental elections...

So 80-90% of political flames still linked to military domain.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I must admit the political banter can take up a lot space in the general discussion area at times, so it would do no harm to shift it to the Off Topic and Humour section it might chase away the **** size and anal *** discussions which have lot less to do with military matters than politics.

[Tane Angle]

While I agree with Agryll on a lot of what he said (thanks for the support, buddy) I'll defer to the majority and Hood on this one. Whatever floats the collective-and Hood's-boat. I think Hood made a really great point in his post. I couldn't have said it any better. Presidents do have substantial influence on foreign, and thus military, policy. The Off-Topic is kind of a fun haven, so I don't know if politics would go well there. And some of the military stuff is in the photos, equipment, or history sections. If you all really want a political section, you can ask Hood.

About moderators, I think we've tried not to be censors or thought police. While we are mere guests of Hood, he hasn't really said "shut up" too much to too many people. I've tried to take a cue from him about how I should act. I probably am too argumentative sometimes :D , but if I just delete someone's statement, then does that change anything? Maybe I'm too idealistic still to think that any of this would ever change anything. Anyways, I'll check back in to see what you all think.

As always, have a good one, and just some thoughts...

[Sixgun Symphony]

A political situation will often lead to military action. So I think 'General Discussions" is appropiate.

[Argyll]

What has the ****e about Kerry got to do with a Military discussion?
What has Anti Semetism got to do with Military discussion
I do not mind it being relevant to the the topic,but when people label others are Anti semetic,Pinko's,Anti US,and the topic degenerates then it no longer becomes relevant and therefore should not be in a General Military category!

[hood]

but when people label others are Anti semetic,Pinko's,Anti US

Such issues are how wars start, which is why it's relevant to military discussion. :) They're the cause and summation of many of the conflicts in this world. One side thinks an issue is important, and the other side thinks it's worthless. Fight! I agree about some of these topics though. Sometimes it has nothing at all to do with the topic.

[StarvingStudent47]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

I want a match. Who has beef with me?

[duck]

Care to discuss Sharon's grand strategy again, dear friend? ;)

[hank]

Watch out for ss47 - he thinks before he posts. That in an of itself is enough for most around here.

hank

[Javehn]

I want to add something . I personally no longer see this forum as a military forum , where one can learn something , share his personal information, and even discuss some matter in a good way , a little bit more then "your country sucks , so you sucks , you don't know ****" style . I enjoyed visiting this forum at the begining , and even learned interesting information . It has a good potential from hardcore people that visit this forum .
Recently , probably because of the new users flood , i don't know to what this site became . I am not interested whis whom Carry had affair , i always thought that this section is to discust armed conflicts , and news related to it . How does the fact , that Kerry had a fair from the side , connected in any way to it , ah ? Where is the thread about Chechen war ? Where are the informative threads ? There are forums that dedicated to politics , if i am not mistaken , this forum is still called "Militaryphotos" (even if it's time to rename it Politics 101 for dummies) .
At list if people arguing about those matters , it would be expected that they would be somewhere informed , more then "you sucks , and you don't know ****" . The discussions on this forum starting to remind the comments in gallery section that have been deleted .

Can someone explain me what this is ? :
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That's a signature of this forum member .

Can someone explain me why a member of the forum (permsi omon) brings rare pictures , that he spends time on them , scan them , uploading them on the net , and he getting very strange reaction from this forum member - "Russian army sucks , they don't know **** , OMG they look GAY" . What kinda responce is this ? Don't you think that he will think twice or 3 times , before posting the pictures again ? Or perhaps he wouldn't want to poot his pictures here anymore ?
And that story is without end , it goes on and goes on . You want to loose all the members that still have something to contribute , and left alone with members like Zorba2000 , and comments "OMG , i was with him in Delta" ? Please , don't moderate nothing , expect perhaps one thing . Chance the name of the forum to "www.wedontknow****about****butwestillargueit.net" .
I don't know about other people , but once it was interesting to visit this forum, today there is a little deal this forum can contribute to something . I personnaly don't want to post here nothing anymore , and i shure that many members feel that also .

Moderate this forum . If it is broke , fix it . Save the little interesting members you do have .
Add Political section , or just edit , and ban someone . I am shure Hood don't want to waste his bandwith on Megabytes of "you are idiot" , "no youare asshole , read books" , "i am reading books , not like you , you stupid TV kid" ...

[Herrmannek]

Can someone explain me why a member of the forum (permsi omon) brings rare pictures , that he spends time on them , scan them , uploading them on the net , and he getting very strange reaction from this forum member - "Russian army sucks , they don't know **** , OMG they look GAY" . What kinda responce is this ? Don't you think that he will think twice or 3 times , before posting the pictures again ? Or perhaps he wouldn't want to poot his pictures here anymore ?
And that story is without end , it goes on and goes on . You want to loose all the members that still have something to contribute , and left alone with members like Zorba2000 , and comments "OMG , i was with him in Delta" ? Please , don't moderate nothing , expect perhaps one thing . Chance the name of the forum to "www.wedontknow****about****butwestillargueit.net" .
I don't know about other people , but once it was interesting to visit this forum, today there is a little deal this forum can contribute to something . I personnaly don't want to post here nothing anymore , and i shure that many members feel that also .

Moderate this forum . If it is broke , fix it . Save the little interesting members you do have .
Hi..welcome to the real world :)...That's the way it is. people like to jump on Russians because this is new topic and they now **** about it..The same thing was with Palestinian vs Israeli conflict and it will be the same with any other new topic people here will care to "disscuss". The best part of thing, is that, it realy works, I don't see now people jumping at every pic with Israeli aiming at some Palestinians..Why because you managed to defend your opinions with succes..Same thing Russians must do...They must battle prove their point of view. and I assure you it will be fierce battle :)...

[Javehn]

I perfectly understand you , thank you , but sence when "OMG , those soldiers are so gay" is a valid point ? It's done by idiot member , and on other forums his acount would be long gone . Why on this forum it's evolving to 10 pages arguement ? And about what ? Nothing !! Just a waste of good server space.
The only thing i learned for last 3 weeks here, is how to write "fuсk" without the stars . ;)

[Luxembourger]

keep the political stuff in the General Discussion ... it s good as it is .

[Herrmannek]

I perfectly understand you , thank you , but sence when "OMG , those soldiers are so gay" is a valid point ? It's done by idiot member , and on other forums his acount would be long gone . Why on this forum it's evolving to 10 pages arguement ? And about what ? Nothing !! Just a waste of good server space.

He didn't said they are gay, just that they look like such :) ...Let's say this post was effect of cultural differnces. I'll tell you in secret that those stripy t-shirts remind me jail outfit, so in some way they look gay to me, and I would not wear them. Those are just random associations and someone probably wasn't carefull with expressing them... Noone should take such offenses personally, as they can be effect of many random factors and ussaly aren't direct attack. In shoes of PerskyOMON I would ask that person why he think so, and would try to explain his doubts with some bits of history&tradition..with would be far more interesting than engaging in flame war :).

[Javehn]

Hermannek ,i wasn't pointing at this thread . Just gave it as example . Here is another example . And there are thousand examples like this . Is it really possible to ignore them all ? Good threads always get burried in the end of the screen , because crappy threads get attention . There are more then enough political forum, this one is supposed to be connected in some way to military .
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8578

[Argyll]

keep the political stuff in the General Discussion ... it s good as it is .

This what I asked is a "general discussions" with no bearing on Military matters or is it a "General Milirary discussions"?

If General why an off topic forum.

At one point last night there were 5 topics on the front page with nothing to do with Military whatsoever,should these not be in the Off topic forum?

[oldsoak]

I'd agree with Argyll on that - if its not general military or has the military central to the item - off topic it goes. The other thing, can we go easy on the language ? Slagging of some bloke is not going to help matters and once the ante rises, the military side of the discussion gets rather lost. I know anonymity can encourage rudeness but we're all adults here.

[memphiz]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

memphiz vs a Monkey/gorilla
memphiz vs a bear
memphiz vs 5 college chicks in a tub of KY jelly :D
memphiz vs a fighting chicken
memphiz vs any one who wants to fight

[mustamato]

We can settle this like gentlemen in a boxing ring. I'll arrange the date and location. ]


Here are some matches I can think off

Jack vs mustamato
Jack vs ducimus
Jack vs Uninen

Trigger vs ducimus
TriggerPuller vs mustamato
California Joe vs farmgirl

Feel free to add...

memphiz vs a Monkey/gorilla
memphiz vs a bear
memphiz vs 5 college chicks in a tub of KY jelly :D
memphiz vs a fighting chicken
memphiz vs any one who wants to fight

Haha! Given that Jack Me Off seems to have bigger biceps muscles than
me I think (and probably also ***** muscles given his name) I´ll pass the
boxing. But maybe all of us on a island, and then little Battle Royale?

Or we can play a little chess?

[Seoulstriker]

1) politics is part of the military equation.
2) the purpose of the general discussion is: "Current events and general topics."

discussing current political events is part of this.

[Argyll]

1) politics is part of the military equation.
2) the purpose of the general discussion is: "Current events and general topics."

discussing current political events is part of this.


So General Discussions is not about General Military topics?
I'm in the wrong place as I came here to catch up on Miliatry affairs.......not get called a Pinko,an Eurotrash,or Anti Semetic,
Politics pertaining to Military is reasonable but why have this called a Military Site when it's getting so far from military that it has become more Political motivated than Military orientated.?

[Seoulstriker]

1) politics is part of the military equation.
2) the purpose of the general discussion is: "Current events and general topics."

discussing current political events is part of this.


So General Discussions is not about General Military topics?
I'm in the wrong place as I came here to catch up on Miliatry affairs.......not get called a Pinko,an Eurotrash,or Anti Semetic,
Politics pertaining to Military is reasonable but why have this called a Military Site when it's getting so far from military that it has become more Political motivated than Military orientated.?

i think straight-out politics should be in the off-topic section (like threads about the dem presidential candidates, or about whatever). however, any topics which have any military implication should be in the general discussion. there can be tangents, such as iraq-war-->US politics/world politics. or israel-->palestinian terrorists--> israeli military--> lebanon/syria/iraq.

[Kingpin]

Argyll, my dear, is chechen question of military or political origin?
Often we can split one from anoher.
So as i said before 80% of political talks closely related to military.

I understand that you as pure soldier evading political discussions because orders of your commander have much greater importance than political aspect of what he's ordering but anyway....

[Argyll]

1. Don't use tons of in your posts.
2. Don't use excessive profanity.
2.5. Don't direct post gory or graphic images. If you must post such things, only provide a regular link with a large warning as to what to expect when someone clicks on it. Users that continue to post such images after a warning will be banned.
3. Don't post threads with TITLES IN ALL CAPS.
3.5. Don't use avatars or signatures that are unreasonably large.
3.75. Don't use avatars are signatures that are obscene or sexist.
4. Don't use racial slurs.
5. Don't be a poser. Being yourself is good enough; there's no need to try to be something you're not. If you don't know something, ask and people will respect you for your honesty.
6. Don't hijack a good conversation thread with an off-topic political or flame war. Posts of this nature will be deleted from now on.
7. Don't make multiple accounts for yourself. If it's discovered (it's not difficult) that you have multiple accounts, all of them will be deactivated and most likely your ip subnet banned.
8. Don't insult the airsofters or video game players in their forum section. A separate section was setup specifically for hobbyists to separate the real from the non-real military people and events to alleviate such problems.
9. Don't post topics with thread titles that don't describe what's in the thread. Examples are: "WTF?" "Please read this..." and "Oh my god!"


See this is what I meant,all thoses highlighted are going on in some of these so called Political disscusions.
No.6 is open to debate,as it clearly states an OFF TOPIC POLITICAL or FLAME WAR,which my interpretation of these rules is that Politics should not be in this section,and should be in the OFF TOPIC Forum?
I was mearly seeking clarification as to the definitions of General discussions,whether they literally mean "General",which means why have an Off topic forum if it comes under the same "Generalisation",or whether the "General is General Military"?

What is the point in having rules when there are some people here who break them,by using racial slurs,and yet there were guys banned for posting unsuitable pictures,ok they were undesireables too,but we need to have consistancy here,if it is acceptable to have been racialy slurred,then change the rules!

[Haiw]

Or just ban the offender. I think no one would be sad if that offender would be banned, no?

[Royal]

Without getting into Clauswitz, military matters and politics are inextricably linked. That said, I agree 100% with Argyll that items about US Primaries should be in the 'Off Topic' area and general Islamophobic or other xenophobic rants have no place anywhere here.

[NcDeuce]

http://dtle.home.comdcast.net/t3-7.jpg

:roll:

[Javehn]

Btt
Just a reminder ...

Can someone explain me why a member of the forum (permsi omon) brings rare pictures , that he spends time on them , scan them , uploading them on the net , and he getting very strange reaction from this forum member - "Russian army sucks , they don't know **** , OMG they look GAY" . What kinda responce is this ? Don't you think that he will think twice or 3 times , before posting the pictures again ? Or perhaps he wouldn't want to poot his pictures here anymore ?


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8969

I am not profit . But with this attitude to the board , it's time to start thinking about new name to it ..
It's not a problem to get new moderators . It's worth to save this board .

[TriggerPuller]

Without getting into Clauswitz, military matters and politics are inextricably linked. That said, I agree 100% with Argyll that items about US Primaries should be in the 'Off Topic' area and general Islamophobic or other xenophobic rants have no place anywhere here.Jesus Royal I thought I was gonna be able to fight Mustamato and you come up with "islamaphobic" ans "xenophobic". For Gods sake man Iam a Marine cant you speak in English for me!!!! :D :D

SS47, Iam game you ready for it?

TP

[hood]

Adding moderators is difficult. There's so many strong opinions here, which is great, but a moderator always has to stay objective. I'll see what I can do. For now, keep sending me PM's about violations that you see and I'll take care of them. I deleted 12 topics in the last day, and moved about 10 topics from one section to the other. I definitely see that there's problems.

[farmgirl]

farmalicious can't be a mod. She will ban me if i ever make any ****** innuendos

oh please jack..... you know me better than that! :roll: Silly boy ;)

[farmgirl]

Ok gentlemen and Ladies(Md :hug: ) Given the insurge of Political Flaming and trolling in the past 5 days,I'd like to ask something to the forum members

This is MILITARYPHOTOS.NET correct?

The general dicussion board,is this a MILITARY General discussion board?

If so why all the political ****e being posted in this section and not in the Off topic/Homour section..........Politics should not be on a Military board,unless it has it's own section,where GENERAL MILITARY DISCUSSIONS cannot be taken off topic through outbursts of Islamaphobic,or Political beliefs,these should be in the OFF TOPIC discussions.......................they are not relevant to Military affairs or are they?

I'd like to see Politics be banned altogether,as it's detracting a great site into another hate filled forum,where people have got their sphincters and their mouth's mixed up(Maybe Gods way of humour but not mine! ;) )
Too many genuine folks Like Tane Angle,Royal,and a few others are being questioned over first hand accounts that they quite frankly do not have to prove to anyone here,somethings they will have to live with having seen them in 1st hand accounts,this is not a board of Inquiry into the rights and wrongs of war,BTDT's have no moral obligation to "Tell me what you did/saw,as I do not believe you" attitude being pressed by some newer members here,most of the BTDT's here are not spotty little kids who get *****s about war,most are late 30's upwards who are perhaps a little ashamed in seeing Mans inhumanity to man at 1st hand.
We ex serving members wherever we're from,be it the USA,UK,Russia,Norway wherevere have nothing to prove to the youth of today ,it is for them to prove to us they are worthy of our company,there are aspiring Soldiers Sailors and Airmen out there,but until that 1st TOD is over you are still greenhorns,and sprogs,I have the deepest respect for those who have pulled the uniform on and served not to get an education or it's a job,but to make a difference.It angers me when there are those here who will just not listen and look at the big picture,and slagging off people for their Beliefs,religion ,Race, Creed or colour is not on!
Leave Politics to those lying scheming manipulating bas*ards who get paid for it,and lets's get back to the military world again!


Argyll,
I've been staying away from this part of the forum for awhile for precisely the reasons you have stated.
I too think that politics and the military can be very closely related, but I think we should separate the two. There is bound to be some cross over between the two, but we might be able to manage the flame wars a little more effectively on separate areas of the forum.

Anything I can do to help.... just let me know. :)

marydawn

[Argyll]

Thank you Hood,we all,appreciate the good work you're doing with this site,and it is nice to see you have aknowledged that there is indeed a small minority that are causing a problem.
I myself can appreciate the difficulties in adding more moderators,but if there is one around most of the time he/she(hint hint!)can quickly step in to diffuse a potential flame war.There is a wide range of forum members present today from all over the globe,it is impossible to achieve harmony,but if they follow the site guidlines it will prevents the idiocy we have seen here of late.

Keep up the good work,I shall always be a supporter here .

If you are looking for a clear headed persons to add to your list of moderators then California Joe and farmgirl get my vote ;)

[Haiw]

Mmmm farmgirl would make for a good mod, no? I mean, she's always fairly objective, and everyone respects her authority.
It's no use making some of the people with really an outspoken opinion a mod (people like me, Argyll, Trigger etc.) because that wouldn't work.

BTW Hood thanks for all the work you do. I know it must suck because you didn't start this site to police the forums... :|

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Mmmm farmgirl would make for a good mod, no? I mean, she's always fairly objective, and everyone respects her authority.
It's no use making some of the people with really an outspoken opinion a mod (people like me, Argyll, Trigger etc.) because that wouldn't work.

BTW Hood thanks for all the work you do. I know it must suck because you didn't start this site to police the forums... :|

I definately agree farmgirl would make an excellent mod.

Unforunately whats turned into a military site has turned into a polictical **** tornado of hate/flame posts. Its time something gets done before we lose all of our members who really are here to have serious discussions about various military issue's. I say if you want to talk politics call your local talk radio, or go sign up at another forum on the internet about politics to express your opinion.

[hank]

Hey, if permi gets his feelings hurt and runs away then that is his deal. IMHO he and his buddies are just as offensive a lot of times. Everybody needs to grow up and realize that other people have a right to believe what they want. Since Hood owns the deal, he has a right to stop it, I agree. But, extreme opinions are part of the landscape and if we kick these guys off other will fill their places very soon.

The question is - why is everybody so worked up to the point of kicking people off b/c some littel twerp calls permi gay or some retard wants to bash gays or the Marines or anybody else? Does it really matter? I doubt triggerpuller loses any sleep when some snotty nosed teenager says something bad about the Corps. My bet is he kind of enjoys lashing them. ;)

Read what you want here, and ignore the rest, I say.

hank

[Kingpin]

I just noticed one thing... i figured out that i'm constantly mixing up Royal with Argyll. Sorry men! p-)

[Herrmannek]

I just noticed one thing... i figured out that i'm constantly mixing up Royal with Argyll. Sorry men! p-)
Me to..... :oops:

[Argyll]

rofl I'm not sure whether to take that as a compliment guys or not?

Royal and I are I guess pretty similar in our views in most cases
We are both Scotsmen...........and proud of it!

Royal is an Officer in the Royal Marines,where as I worked for a living!! ;)

Just kidding royal!!

[hank]

If its not Scottish, its crap!

hank

[farmgirl]

If its not Scottish, its crap!

hank


you need to draw that out a little bit more there Hank.....

"If it's not Scottish, it's craaaaaaaap" (see how much better that is???);)

[hank]

I hear ya. :hug:

hank

[Kingpin]

Royal and I are I guess pretty similar in our views in most cases
We are both Scotsmen...........and proud of it!


Yeah, that's why probably mixing occured :)
Anyway i respect you both so consider previous as a compliment :)

[16 OBr SpN]

Ok gentlemen and Ladies(Md :hug: ) Given the insurge of Political Flaming and trolling in the past 5 days,I'd like to ask something to the forum members

This is MILITARYPHOTOS.NET correct?

The general dicussion board,is this a MILITARY General discussion board?

If so why all the political ****e being posted in this section and not in the Off topic/Homour section..........Politics should not be on a Military board,unless it has it's own section,where GENERAL MILITARY DISCUSSIONS cannot be taken off topic through outbursts of Islamaphobic,or Political beliefs,these should be in the OFF TOPIC discussions.......................they are not relevant to Military affairs or are they?

I'd like to see Politics be banned altogether,as it's detracting a great site into another hate filled forum,where people have got their sphincters and their mouth's mixed up(Maybe Gods way of humour but not mine! ;) )
Too many genuine folks Like Tane Angle,Royal,and a few others are being questioned over first hand accounts that they quite frankly do not have to prove to anyone here,somethings they will have to live with having seen them in 1st hand accounts,this is not a board of Inquiry into the rights and wrongs of war,BTDT's have no moral obligation to "Tell me what you did/saw,as I do not believe you" attitude being pressed by some newer members here,most of the BTDT's here are not spotty little kids who get *****s about war,most are late 30's upwards who are perhaps a little ashamed in seeing Mans inhumanity to man at 1st hand.
We ex serving members wherever we're from,be it the USA,UK,Russia,Norway wherevere have nothing to prove to the youth of today ,it is for them to prove to us they are worthy of our company,there are aspiring Soldiers Sailors and Airmen out there,but until that 1st TOD is over you are still greenhorns,and sprogs,I have the deepest respect for those who have pulled the uniform on and served not to get an education or it's a job,but to make a difference.It angers me when there are those here who will just not listen and look at the big picture,and slagging off people for their Beliefs,religion ,Race, Creed or colour is not on!
Leave Politics to those lying scheming manipulating bas*ards who get paid for it,and lets's get back to the military world again!

I totally agree with you Argyll!
There should be some strict action taken from the part of our Moderators. The forum is slowly degrading as a result of these political, and other "wars".
Posting news is certainly a good thing, but news should be strictly connected to military subjects. For the other news, there's always BBC, *******, CNN...

The other rule which I think should be implemented is - IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE SUBJECT, DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW IT!

You don't see "older" people (like us ;) ) posting things if we don't have any knowledge about the subject.
While there are numerous "specialists" about foreign militaries, and their doctrines, who start posting crap they have no idea of.
Stating your opinion is good, but when becomes simply disrespectful, it starts ruining everything.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Kingpin]

The other rule which I think should be implemented is - IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE SUBJECT, DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW IT!


This very difficult to implement. Because this means that nobody can't rely on other sources except their own experience. Because when they post "crap" you mentioned above they rely on books and articles they have read.
So thirs rule should be clarified in the following form:
IF YOU DON'T HAVE DIRECT AND EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT, DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW IT! OTHERWISE POINT YOUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION.
(Sorry for my syntax and grammatical errors if any)

Edit: i was first to implement my own rule. Just posted source, where i took info about subject - T-64 :) :)

[16 OBr SpN]

The other rule which I think should be implemented is - IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE SUBJECT, DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW IT!


This very difficult to implement. Because this means that nobody can't rely on other sources except their own experience. Because when they post "crap" you mentioned above they rely on books and articles they have read.
So thirs rule should be clarified in the following form:
IF YOU DON'T HAVE DIRECT AND EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUBJECT, DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW IT! OTHERWISE POINT YOUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION.
(Sorry for my syntax and grammatical errors if any)

Yeah, something like that ;)
In Russian, this rule would be re-phrased as, "Не можешь срать, не мучай жопу!" :lol:

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Javehn]

Have an idea , so it was implemented on many other forums . To any knowladges brought to the forum ,if it's not personal experience , URL adress provided where from the source of the knowladge came .

[mustamato]

Have an idea , so it was implemented on many other forums . To any knowladges brought to the forum ,if it's not personal experience , URL adress provided where from the source of the knowladge came .

Hm, and if I in example gave you a URL to a finnish site you would understand
much of what? Probably just as much as I would understand hebrew. And I
don´t really agree with that, in academic papers it´s necessary to give the
source for the claim. This is a relaxed forums God damn it.

[WARPIG]

I think we are getting off target here. Having room for open discussion is what keeps people interested here. If you frequent other forums you know that overly restrictive forums and topics generally don't hold your interest for very long. In fact, you can see it here. The most interesting threads here are usually controversial. Keeping that in mind, a little more attention to the subject of the post or forum, and a home for all the political discussions in the form of it's own forum.. would be a positive control for this site.
As far as making everyone prove their knowledge, well, it would kill discussion and turn this forum boring. Maybe the closest we want to come to that is maybe hood can assign some subject matter experts to the seperate forums as assistant moderators to keep things in perspective.

[hank]

Once again, warpig hits the nail on the head. Yeah, what he said.

hank