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signatory
12-14-2005, 06:12 AM
The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brottsförebyggande rådet - Brå) functions as the Swedish Government’s body of expertise within the justice system.

This is a huge and a bit controversal study (at least among the P.C Media). First report in many years. Scroll down for my quick summary.

http://www.bra.se/extra/faq/?module_instance=2&action=question_show&id=340&category_id=9

English summary. + I had to cut it down even further not to bore people too much. Full doc only in Swedish.

Crime among persons born in Sweden and other countries

The study relates only to persons registered as resident in Sweden during the period in question, and not to persons who only stayed in Sweden on a temporary basis.

THE PICTURE PRESENTED IN PREVIOUS SWEDISH STUDIES
Previous Swedish studies on the criminality of immigrants have shown that persons born outside Sweden have higher levels of registered crime than persons born within the country. In the National Council’s study from the period 1985-1989, the findings showed that it was twice as common for
persons born abroad to be registered for criminal offences by comparison with persons born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. Persons born in Sweden to one or two foreign-born parents were also registered for crime more often than those with two Swedish born parents. For this group, it was 1.5 times as likely to be registered as crime suspects.

INTERNATIONAL STUDIES HAVE PRODUCED RESULTS THAT DIFFER IN PART FROM THOSE FOUND IN SWEDEN
The majority of current international studies on registered crime, like their Swedish counterparts, show that persons born outside the country in ques-tion tend to be registered in connection with criminal offences to a greater extent than persons born within the country. There are a number of older, American studies, however, which show the opposite, namely that persons who have migrated to a new country tend to commit offences to a lesser extent than persons born within the country to two parents who were also born there. International studies have also focused special attention on crime among those born in the new country but to one or two parents born overseas. The general picture produced by these studies indicates that this group is regis-tered for crime to a greater extent than both those born overseas and those born within the country to two native born parents. When these results are interpreted, emphasis is often placed on the no-tion that some children born to non-native parents, who grow up in the new society, are torn between two cultural worlds. They often experience their situation and their future possibilities as more limited than others of the same age whose parents were born within the country, which may lead to their becoming frustrated and alienated

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE REGISTERED FOR CRIMES ARE PERSONS BORN IN SWEDEN TO SWEDISH BORN PARENTS

The National Council’s study includes all those persons aged between 15 and 51 years of age who were registered as resident in Sweden in 1997. This group comprises approximately 4.4 million individuals. Slightly under 60 per cent of the almost 1,520,000 offences for which these persons were registered during the period covered by the study can be attributed to per-sons who were born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. Almost one quarter of the crimes are registered to persons born overseas, and almost twenty per cent to persons born in Sweden to one or two parents born abroad. Using this as its point of departure, the National Council has attempted to estimate how the total number of reported offences is distributed across different groups. The picture then changes somewhat, primarily because those offences committed by persons not registered as resident in Sweden are also included. This group is estimated to account for seven per cent of the offences reported during the study period. This represents an increase from the figure of three per cent noted in the National Council’s previous study.

THOSE BORN ABROAD ARE REGISTERED FOR OFFENCES MORE OFTEN THAN PERSONS BORN IN SWEDEN
By far the majority of all those included in the groups examined in the study have not been suspected in connection with any offences during the five year study period. This is true irrespective of ethnic background. The proportions of the different groups not suspected of any offences at all var-ies between 88 and 95 per cent. The proportion suspected of offences is higher however among those born outside Sweden or who have one or two foreign-born parents, by comparison with those born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. It is two and a half times as likely for persons born abroad to be registered as crime suspects as it is for Swedish born persons with both parents born in Sweden. They thus have a ”relative risk” of 2.5. For those born in Sweden to two foreign-born parents, it is twice as common to be registered as it is among persons born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. For this group, then, the ”relative risk” is 2. Among those with one Swedish born and one non-Swedish born parent, the risk is 1.4 times as great. Thus the pattern that emerged in the National Council’s previous report, namely that the risk of being registered for crime was lower among the Swedish born ”children of immigrants” than it was among those who had themselves migrated to Sweden, is also apparent in this new study.

RELATIVE RISK HIGHER FOR SOME OFFENCES THAN FOR OTHERS
If the material is broken down into different offence types, the proportion of suspects from each background group becomes appreciably smaller. The proportion of persons born abroad that are suspected in connection with a theft offence (Chapter 8 of the Swedish Penal Code – Brottsbalken), or a crime against the person (Chapter 3), which includes assault offences, lies at slightly over four per cent for each offence category over the course of the five year observation period. For other types of crime, the proportion of foreign-born persons in the population is lower. At the same time, it may be noted that the relative risk for being registered for crime among persons born overseas is greater for certain offences than it is for others. It is four times as likely, for example, for foreign-born persons to be suspected of lethal violence and robbery as it is for persons born in Sweden to Swedish born parents. This involves 0.03 per cent of persons born overseas being suspected in connection with lethal violence during the study period and 0.35 per cent being suspected of robbery.

”CHILDREN OF IMMIGRANTS” ARE MORE COMMONLY REGISTERED FOR TYPICAL YOUTH CRIMES
On the whole, those born in Sweden to at least one overseas born parent assume an ’in-between’ position as regards the question of being suspected of criminal offences. It is less common for members of this group to be suspected in connection with various types of crime than it is for those who were themselves born overseas, but it is more common than among persons born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. There are however certain types of offences that are more common within this group than they are in
either of the other two groups. These offence types primarily involve cate-gories of crime where a large proportion of the offences are generally com-mitted by youths (irrespective of background). These involve car thefts, vandalism, drunken driving, drug offences including offences that only in-volve personal consumption, and crimes against the Weapons Act (vapenla-gen) and the Knives Act (knivförbudslagen)

LEVELS OF OVER-REPRESENTATION GREATER AMONG GROUPS FROM CERTAIN AREAS OF THE WORLD THAN OTHERS
The proportion of persons suspected of offences is greater in groups from certain geographical areas than it is in those from others. This is the case for certain parts of Africa, such as North Africa, for example, and for Western Asia. Those coming from West European countries, South-East Asia and from the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zeeland comprise the groups of those born outside Sweden who are registered as crime suspects least often. The factor that distinguishes the areas whose emigrants are suspected of offences in Sweden to a particularly large extent is that the living conditions in these areas are unlike those in the western world. In addition, those moving to Sweden from these areas have often been ”forced” to leave their homelands as refugees, whereas those arriving from western countries most often come more of their own free will. The high level of relative risk noted among North Africans does not however mean that persons from North Africa are responsible for a large proportion of the offences that are linked to crime suspects in Sweden. On the contrary they account for a very small proportion of these offences. The groups that dominate in this regard are those from the Nordic countries.
Persons from Finland, Norway, Denmark and Iceland account for almost five per cent of those suspected of offences, whereas the corresponding fig-ure for North Africans is 0.7 per cent. Amongst other things, of course, this is a result of the fact that the number of persons living in Sweden who were born in North Africa is not very large. The number of immigrants moving to Sweden from her Nordic neighbours is much larger.

IMMIGRATION IN EARLY CHILDHOOD CONSTITUTES A PROTECTIVE FACTOR AGAINST INVOLVEMENT IN CRIME
International research shows that persons born abroad who move to the new country of residence during their first years of life find it easier to adapt than those who arrive once they have reached school-age. The Na-tional Council’s study indicates that this general observation also holds in relation to criminal behaviour. Those who migrated to Sweden at a very young age, i.e. before starting school, are registered as suspected offenders to a relatively minor extent. Persons who were of school age, up to and including the late teenage years, when they arrived in Sweden, comprise the group whose members were most often registered in connection with crime

LEVELS OF RELATIVE RISK DIMINISH WHEN OTHER SOCIAL FACTORS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION
We know from previous research that certain background factors, such as age and gender, covary with the risk for involvement in crime. Against this background, the National Council has subjected the material to a stan-dardisation procedure in relation to gender, age, level of education and occupational income. This standardisation means that the different groups have been ”equalised” in relation to these factors by means of statistical procedures. On the basis of these statistical calculations, all groups are as-signed the same proportions of men, younger persons etc. Once the material has been standardised in this way, the level of relative risk among those born abroad is reduced from 2.5 to 2.1. The size of the relative risk among those born in Sweden to two foreign-born parents also diminishes substan-tially from 2.0 to 1.5. One reason for this is that these groups contain a larger proportion of young men with low levels of educational attainment and income by comparison with those born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents. By contrast, the size of the relative risk is not affected to any appreciable extent among persons born in Sweden with only one parent born abroad. One explanation for this is that this group’s ”profile” in relation to the factors discussed is more similar to that of those born in Sweden to two Swedish born parents.

A lot of blah blah, so I wrote down a few quick points from the study:

The over-representation among imigrants increase up to 300-400 % on crimes such as murder, assault, rape and violence against strangers.
Contrary to myth, the highest proportion of over-representation can not be found among the unemployed and factory workers (90%) but rather among employed people in the service sector (126%) Socioeconomic background doesn't affect the over-representation numbers at all.

Cultural background is clearly a strong factor, the absolute worst over-representation can be found among immigrants from Chile and North Africa's Maghre region while Asians have almost no over-representantion at all.
Middle-easterners have twice has high numbers as Vietnamese and Indians.
Busting the myth of racism as a factor the study confirm Africans from south of sahara and east africa commit fewer crimes than for example people of Chile.

Anyway.... it's a big freaking study.

Kekkonen
12-14-2005, 06:34 AM
Whaaaat? I didn' think immigrants in Sweden could be criminals? Only "poor kids from socially segregated areas". There is even professors saying that.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/0507/17/jerzy.jpg


Almost one quarter of the crimes are registered to persons born overseas, and almost twenty per cent to persons born in Sweden to one or two parents born abroad. Using this as its point of departure, the National Council has attempted to estimate how the total number of reported offences is distributed across different groups. The picture then changes somewhat, primarily because those offences committed by persons not registered as resident in Sweden are also included. This group is estimated to account for seven per cent of the offences reported during the study period. This represents an increase from the figure of three per cent noted in the National Council’s previous study.

Okey so immigrants or people with more than one foreign parent are responsible for more than 40% of the crime in Sweden. Funny when they put a "THE MAJORITY OF THOSE REGISTERED FOR CRIMES ARE PERSONS BORN IN SWEDEN TO SWEDISH BORN PARENTS" title just to be politically correct. There are two things that pop up in my mind;

1.) Per capita.
2.) The crime, there is a lil bit of difference between a Swedish shoplifter and an immigrant gang rapist "The over-representation among imigrants increase up to 300-400 % on crimes such as murder, assault, rape and violence against strangers."

signatory
12-14-2005, 06:40 AM
Whaaaat? I didn' think immigrants in Sweden could be criminals? Only "poor kids from socially segregated areas". There is even professors saying that. This report somehow misses the point in my opinion since they totally "forget" to put the amount of crime in a per capita context. Of course 7 million ethnic Swedes will do more crime than 100 000 African immigrants, duh!

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/0507/17/jerzy.jpg

lol @ jerzy

well that's what the over rep numbers are for
oh and they had per centage numbers up there in the text to give a rough idea

"Almost one quarter of the crimes are registered to persons born overseas, and almost twenty per cent to persons born in Sweden to one or two parents born abroad."

(+7% commited by non-residents)

signatory
12-14-2005, 08:42 AM
I checked out population numbers for the age group this survey was done on.
A very quick and dirty calc...

3,200,000 Swedes, 800,000 immigrants and children to immigrants.
The survey says 4,4 million obviously my numbers are 4M... I could not find the extra 400,000 in the census database (SCB) so I will simply ignore them!:) I have no idea why they don't match.

Based on the survey I will use these figures: Total crime commited by:
58% Swedes + 25% born outside Sweden + 17% born in Sweden to immigrant parent.

3,200,000 Swedes represented 58% of crime (881,600 offences)
800,000 Foreign background 42%. (638,400 offences)

9 million in Sweden. 7,800,000 (S)wedes. 1,2 million of (F)oreign background.

(F) Rate: 0,532 (S) Rate: 0,113

Well I'm no math genius and all I wanted to do was a quick calc, but looks to me that you would need 100,000 Swedes to do the same amount as only 20,000 of foreign background. Of course like the survey says, immigrants from north america and asia don't do more than Swedes... so it's pretty interesting how much cultural background come into play.

Hmmm :P

Kekkonen
12-14-2005, 10:04 AM
This report is interesting due to the rape hysteria that the tabloid press tried to sell more with a couple of weeks ago. Then the PC-comments in the tabloids were often "there is no evidence that immigrants are more represented than Swedes..." Well now there is evidence. Doubt it will change anything though, they will just ignore that part of the report.

signatory
12-14-2005, 10:19 AM
yes i was happy this Monday when DN had this article by Mauricio Rojas immigration spokesperson for the Liberals. Unfortunately a Liberal (Folkpartist) is never taken serious on this issue even if he himself is an immigrant...

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=572&a=501206&previousRenderType=2

But unhappy today when regular media used cut n paste journalism to talk about the report. They lead the story with immigrants are more often suspected of crime, but doesnt say it's a warranted suspicion rather they just remind us most crimes are done by swedes...

joka
12-14-2005, 01:49 PM
Whaaaat? I didn' think immigrants in Sweden could be criminals? Only "poor kids from socially segregated areas". There is even professors saying that.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/0507/17/jerzy.jpg



Okey so immigrants or people with more than one foreign parent are responsible for more than 40% of the crime in Sweden. Funny when they put a "THE MAJORITY OF THOSE REGISTERED FOR CRIMES ARE PERSONS BORN IN SWEDEN TO SWEDISH BORN PARENTS" title just to be politically correct. There are two things that pop up in my mind;

1.) Per capita.
2.) The crime, there is a lil bit of difference between a Swedish shoplifter and an immigrant gang rapist "The over-representation among imigrants increase up to 300-400 % on crimes such as murder, assault, rape and violence against strangers."

So.. . what exactly are you suggesting? What do you think this study proves? And what should be done to address the problem?

Holstein
12-14-2005, 01:57 PM
And most important off all, how many % of the population is immigrants, and how many are swedish

signatory
12-14-2005, 02:09 PM
And most important off all, how many % of the population is immigrants, and how many are swedish

the study is done on a age group not the whole population.
In that age group, immigrants and people of foreign background make up 20%.

For the whole population it's about 13%. But that's irrelevant to the study

Belrick
12-14-2005, 02:16 PM
What is the purpose of immigration?

Economic growth, filling a skilled worker shortage or;
Criminal growth, drain on economy, esculation of racial tension?

Kekkonen
12-14-2005, 02:38 PM
So.. . what exactly are you suggesting? What do you think this study proves? And what should be done to address the problem?

The problem is of course best fought with scrapping the PC-filter, and the real problems are dealt with and debated. Mauricio Rojas as signatory mentioned tried to do that in a debate article a couple of days ago, Rojas backed up his arguments with scientific statistics (namely this BRÅ report) and just as signatory says the PC-media cut his arguments to pieces with to say the least crappy methods, where they focused on "OMG RACISM!!" rather than what he was actually saying.

It is quite obvious from this study alone that immigrants are way too represented in the serious crime (shoplifting etc is not interesting in this context). Asian immigrants in Sweden doesn't go around raping people, so what kind of immigrants do that? That is a question that should be debated and studied.

I heard on the radio by the way that in Denmark their "Danish People's Party" have suggested that Denmark will put a ban on refugees and immigrants from some countries since immigrants must be a positive contribution to the society. The PC-filter is since long removed in Denmark and I have no problems with that. This suggestiom met resistance of course from other parties and a debate followed. Debates are in my opinion important in a democratic society.

May I ask, what is your solution to get rid of the problems we are facing here according to this report?

Thor
12-14-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't care what this study says, no matter if it supports my view or not.

The point is that BRÅ and that Jerzy Zanecki are lying pieces of **** and they have manipluated information for years. There is no reason why anyone should trust what's presented by this group. So if he claims that the sky is blue I'd say that it probably is grey even without looking out my window.

And then I haven't even considered the idiotic statements this "professor" gets away with all the time.

"That someone gets assaulted unprovoced in the street is very rare, there are maybe 2-3 such cases in a year". Jerzy Sarnecki 23 may 2005!

"This is about prankish kids that thinks the police have been unfair and they just want to show off - this is of course a stupid thing to do". Jerzy Sarnecki 12 september 2005! Said after three 20-30 year old syrian "kids" assaulted a police station with automatic fire. Baghad and Södertälje - tale of the twin cities.

kinghk
12-14-2005, 04:32 PM
Nice article. We have that same crap going on in Norway, we rarely see the truth of crime from asylum seekers and refugees.

EDIT:

Someone had to yell "structural racism"
http://esbati.blogspot.com/2005/12/rojas-marscherar-vidare.html (Swedish)