Is PHP ****ing up for anyone else?

[Vance]

It's acting really strange today. :|

[SOG]

php has a crap load of implimentations and standards, various sites run various formats of it, various browsers are only decently compatible with certain formats and then you have many companies trying to push thier own "unique" flavors of php on everyone to adopt and use. scrambled **** in the pan......... ughh... i hate all the php crap. but hey its good for big sites and easy to maintain, update, change. :lol:

[mocking_loudly_died]

I have a PHP forum, haven't had to many issues with it.

Alot of people need to update there browsers.

[fred_engles]

PHP and "people updating their browsers" have nothing to do with one another.

Also: SOG's comment is either just stated unclearly (and therefore confusing me) - or simply wrong.

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PHP and "people updating their browsers" have nothing to do with one another.

Also: SOG's comment is either just stated unclearly (and therefore confusing me) - or simply wrong.

I beg to differ.

Loads of people were complaining about my forum not scrolling right until they updated their browsers.

And low and behold no more issues.

[fred_engles]

I beg to differ.

Loads of people were complaining about my forum not scrolling right until they updated their browsers.

And low and behold no more issues.That's well and good, but has nothing whatsoeever to do with fact that your forum uses PHP.

[SOG]

actually YES it does. php is a programmed system that can manage huge databases, websites, generate content with simplicity instead of having to manually make every page yourself and set it up with html coding.

php sits on a server. when that server is querried for information it runs the php program which takes dynamic info like html, shtml, dhtml etc etc and crunches all the c, c+ and perl automated language that generates pages, catalogues them etc, then spits it to the user via a pure stream of html. so basically, the end user just recieves html and php is just a program on a server that sets it up for you in a variety of ways. BUT.

different versions of html and many of thier advanced to small unknown features are supported by various browsers in various ways. thus which browser you are running equals how the html acts and displays on your computer. pending the version of php and what it supports concerning any internet coding aka versions of html, this may create problems with browsers that arent compliant.

old versions of netscape and IE may not display forms, tags, scrolling and advanced menus as well as new versions. its the same reason why many current browsers display things differently today. it all comes down to the developer of the browser, how good they made it, and how up to date it is with the mass of html variations out there and other side projects that companies make like .net and perl.

also just because a developer of a browser states they are compatible with something does not mean they have not implemented it in a wrong way or in a way that does not work as well. browsers are programs, programs have bugs, as little or as large as they may be. pending the browser and version these bugs translate into pages not working/viewed as they should be.

i have had tp update my browser three over the past 5 years as first it would not work with many online shops and features and then later when php really caught on it would not display pages/menus/scroll correctly.

so, pending the php on a server, it may be using advanced web language that the browser cannot handle.


That's well and good, but has nothing whatsoeever to do with fact that your forum uses PHP.


pending the version and implementation of php it may cause mass discontent with older browsers. its not php's fault per sei, it just comes down to how backwards compatible you want to be when you set it up.

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SOG = woot

[Vance]

The thing is - The new topics don't refresh for me...for example -

This is what I see when I first enter the Off-Topic forum. Notice the last post in the forum was this morning..
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/weird1!.JPG



And this is what I see when I manually refresh my window:
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/weird1111.JPG


This has been happening everytime I come here since this morning.

[SOG]

delete your chache, i know under older versions of IE you can clear your cache or temp files IE stores. in the old IE you go to tools/internet options/

also if you havnt already, clear your chache then restart your computer. maybe IE is hanging onto **** because it hasnt been totally killed. not sure. i know certain problems arise and then automagically fix themselves the next day. i have no clue what that evil OS does sometimes.

[Vance]

Well damn, I'm stupid, the problem was my calender was set on 2003 instead of 2004, and that was messing it up somehow. So I set it back to '04 and everything's fine.