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Geezah
12-15-2005, 11:35 AM
Jobcentres will be told to prioritise finding work for criminals under new Government plans.

A new points system will be created as part of a wide-ranging new scheme to reduce re-offending, which currently costs Britain an estimated £11 billion a year.

Jobcentre workers will be awarded maximum points on a 12-point scale if they place an ex-offender in work, including ex-convicts.

Getting employment for a disabled person, lone parents or other people in the "hardest to help" category will also carry maximum points.

Offenders in jail and in the community will also be offered "employability contracts" with incentives such as a guaranteed job interview if they follow an education or training course and work hard.

Criminals who break the contract could be punished by being paid lower rates for prison work, or by being denied extra visits by family and friends in jail.

A Department for Education and Skills spokesman said: "Jobcentres will have performance targets to place offenders in jobs.

"They will score highly on placing offenders in jobs. There will be a 12-point scale and included in that category you would have people with a disability and lone parents.

"Offenders are extremely difficult to get into jobs so I would expect them to be in the hardest to help category."

Minister for Skills Phil Hope denied that the proposal would mean discriminating against other jobless people.

Link (http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/PA_NEWA1796271134644613A00?source=PA%20Feed)


I'm not sure if I like the idea of this, seeing as most carrer criminals couldn't give a toss about working a 9-5.....

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 11:43 AM
Surely any scheme to get ex cons into the workforce is better then doing nothing.

Even if only 1 person stays in the job and doesen't return to a life of crime. That is still a sucess.

EDIT:

Our prison stats were released to day. I'll grab the link.

Geezah
12-15-2005, 11:47 AM
I don't like the idea of crims getting more attention on job placement than the law abiding.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 11:55 AM
Why?

They have served their time and paid their debt to society. Even for having a record they lose many rights a law abiding person has anyway.

Getting a job should be based purely on qualifications and experiance anyway. Wether a person has a record should be irrelevant.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 11:58 AM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17579028-421,00.html?from=rss


A total of 15,300 prisoners, or 60 per cent, had previously served time in an adult prison for a separate offence.

That is a huge amount of re-offenders. Obviously program already in place in Australia to prevent reoffending is not working.

Geezah
12-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Why?

They have served their time and paid their debt to society. Even for having a record they lose many rights a law abiding person has anyway.

They have paid their debt to society, that doesn't mean they suddenly get more attention than the law abiding, it should at most be equal.



Getting a job should be based purely on qualifications and experiance anyway. Wether a person has a record should be irrelevant.

If someone is a *** offender, they cannot work around kids, so in these cases their record is very relevant.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 12:12 PM
That is probably the only situation I can agree with where a record is relevant.

Geezah
12-15-2005, 12:17 PM
How about someone that has a history of robbing banks and post offices, where would you place him?

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 12:18 PM
Where ever he's qualified and has experiance to work.

Geezah
12-15-2005, 02:17 PM
Where ever he's qualified and has experiance to work.

I guess we're in a Catch 22 then, because the majority of his experience is going to be with greenbacks........

Oddbod
12-15-2005, 07:51 PM
So placing a former Bank employee where his experience would indicate means putting him in a position similar to whare he was before?
I don't think so.
Most of the petty criminals are also drug addicts & couldn't give a sh** about a job, so long as they get their next fix.
The easy way to stop them reoffending, is to keep them locked up.

Mind you, we could always transport them to a virtually unpopulated place.................;-)

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-15-2005, 07:53 PM
You done that once before and looked what happened?

Australia. The best example that rehabilitating criminals works.

:)

Geezah
12-16-2005, 09:24 AM
You done that once before and looked what happened?

Australia. The best example that rehabilitating criminals works.

:)


If you say so p-)

Best things that have come out of Australia are Kylie and Danni M p-)
















































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