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Jack Mehoff
02-14-2004, 03:24 AM
U.S. mighty Navy


Nimitz
http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cvn68/Homepage/Victoria.gif

Carl Vinson

http://www.cvn70.navy.mil/photos/040120-N-0905V-135_small.jpg

Dwight Eisenhower
http://www.skytamer.com/sea/photos/gallery01/small/0101.jpg

Theodore Roosevelt

http://www.leyden.com/gulfwar/graphics/airwing.jpg

Abraham Lincoln


http://www.cvn72.navy.mil/gallery/ship/pearl.jpg

George Washington

http://www.spear.navy.mil/gw/Photo_Ship_8B.jpg

John C Stennis
http://www.abama.com/posters/p8410080.jpg


Harry Truman
http://www.abama.com/posters/p84100f0.jpg

Ronald Reagan
http://worldfleet.xiloo.com/photograph/United%2520States/Aircraft%2520Carrier/CVN76_Ronald%2520Reagan_02.jpg

George HW Bush will be our newest aircraft carrier. No pictures of it yet

Uninen
02-14-2004, 03:27 AM
George HW Bush will be our newest aircraft carrier. No pictures of it yet

CVN 77?

Jack Mehoff
02-14-2004, 03:28 AM
Correct

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/ship-cv.html

Uninen
02-14-2004, 03:31 AM
http://www.capitolsource.net/images/prog/cvn77.jpg
CVN 77

At least i think it is.. :) See the huge 77?

*Edit*

Just forget, propably artists impression.. :oops:

mustamato
02-14-2004, 03:36 AM
http://w1.522.telia.com/~u52219934/208_136-3608Got.jpg
Swedens first and last "airplane cruiser" (flygplanskryssare), HMS Gotland,
launched in 1934 and scrapped in 1960. Although there was airplanes only the
first 9 years, after which the airplane deck was removed.

The airplanes used were Hawker Ospreys, that were used as divebombers.

http://www.avrosys.nu/aircraft/Spaning/208S9_127-2716.jpg

The Gotland had room for eleven aircraft type Hawker Osprey, but only
six were procured. The aircraft deck was placed over the quarterdeck.
The aircraft were stored on trolleys that went on rails. The were launched
by of a catapult, operated by compressed air. The aircraft had to land in
the water and be lifted aboard the ship by a crane. Test were also made
by a ”drag sail”, which was towed behind the ship. The landed aircraft
taxied up on the ”sail” and could now easier be lifted aboard. But both
methods had the great disadvantage that the ship had to stop or at least
slow down considerably, which of course could be disastrous in a war
situation. In practise, the aircraft started from the Gotland and landed
somewhere along the coast.

But then on the other hand there is not much use of a carrier in the Baltic
sea. Modern (even in those days) fighters from landbases could be used
over the Baltic.

Uninen
02-14-2004, 03:42 AM
mustamato,

Theres no actual pics online? :lol: Thats like there would not be any pics of Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen.. :lol:

Heres link to a gallery about those:

http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Finlandia/Cruisers/1932_Vainamoinen_class/_Vainamoinen_photos.html ;)

mustamato
02-14-2004, 03:46 AM
mustamato,

Theres no actual pics online? :lol: Thats like there would not be any pics of Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen.. :lol:

Heres link to a gallery about those:

http://www.warship.get.net.pl/Finlandia/Cruisers/1932_Vainamoinen_class/_Vainamoinen_photos.html ;)

http://www.gdes.pp.fi/images/ilmarinen.jpg
Like this one of Ilmarinen? :)

Well, Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen were succesfull concepts (although their
mine protection was a disaster obviously :| ). While the HMS Gotland concept
was all but succesfull, so that´s maybe why there is no pics of it, it´s nothing
to be proud of.

He219
02-14-2004, 03:50 AM
CVN 77
At least i think it is.. :) See the huge 77?

It can't be. Must be a photoshop or artistic rendering.

They just laid the keel down on Sept. 6th, 2003 and it's expected to be commisioned somewhere around 2009!
http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/bush/index.html

;)


I took this pic of the Nimitz last year:
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/NimitzNorthIslandMarch2003.jpg
:D

perdurabo
02-14-2004, 04:21 AM
now we need UK Invincible class, French CdeGaulle Spain, Italian, Russian, Indian(they bought adm.Gorshkov and russians will rebuild it to kuzniecov alike standard, and they have old UK carrier also they are pllaning to build their own), Thailand, Brasil and maybe some one has pics of chinese cariers (they bought one ausis old carier and Variag (kuzniecov class carier) from russia (it was only haul...)

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 09:38 AM
George HW Bush will be our newest aircraft carrier. No pictures of it yet

Is this true!! :P or am i falling for bull**** :(

Dennis G
02-14-2004, 09:50 AM
I love the Nimitz. Its a symbol of American power. Both in its military and working class.


http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cvn68/Homepage/Victoria.gif

Ratamacue
02-14-2004, 01:09 PM
George HW Bush will be our newest aircraft carrier. No pictures of it yet

Is this true!! :P or am i falling for bull**** :(

Yes, it's true. The CVN-77 will be the George H.W. Bush, as in the Bush that was president from 1989-1993.

Ratamacue
02-14-2004, 01:20 PM
USS Enterprise
http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/news/2003/CPF00-31_lowrez.jpg

USS Kitty Hawk (Non-Nuclear)
http://www.flightheritage.com/images/AIRCRAFTCARRIER/kittyhawkCV63.jpg

USS John F. Kennedy (Non-Nuclear)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/cv-67-nyc.jpg

wholagun
02-14-2004, 01:22 PM
is the US building or is it going to build the carrier in which the Island (command centre) moves to give it more stealth.

I once on discover saw how the navy wanted to create a more stealthy ship with a smaller island and/or one that is able to move somewhat downwards when required, does anyone got any info on this.

Nice pics. Its also interesting to note that when US arrives off the coast of a country that one carrier is more powerful then an entires countries total armed forces.

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 01:31 PM
more like:

http://venus.walagata.com/w/jcdenton/8264279.gif

Ratamacue
02-14-2004, 01:38 PM
Was that really necessary, Fulcrum?

Jack Mehoff
02-14-2004, 01:39 PM
more like:

http://venus.walagata.com/w/jcdenton/8264279.gif

hahahahaha. That's really funny. See, i'm laughing right now

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 01:40 PM
Heres some info i just found on the CVN-77 :D Supposed to be done in 2008 woot

Looks very different to todays carriers
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cvn77sg.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cvn-77-1.jpg


1 Passive Jet Blast Deflector: Redesigns and new materials mean reduced maintenance costs.
2 Island Designs: Improve flight deck access and reduce signature and electronic self-interference.
3 Signature Reduction: Curved flight deck edges, enclosed antenna farms, smaller islands and internal aircraft elevators add up to maximum stealth.
4 Aircraft Pit Stop: Semi-automated refueling and servicing in a new configuration and deck location provides faster, more efficient airwing pit stops and requires fewer people.
5 Hanger Bay: New designs reduce clutter.

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 01:40 PM
Was that really necessary, Fulcrum?


Yes.

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 01:42 PM
why? :petting:

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 01:50 PM
Some more pics
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/norfolk-carrier1.jpg

http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/nucfield/media/ship%20gifs/threebirds.GIF

http://www.dsuper.net/~nerdboy/usnimitz.jpg

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 01:55 PM
why? :petting:


why not?

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 02:10 PM
not worth my argument :|

perdurabo
02-14-2004, 02:12 PM
Thailand
Chakri Naruebet
build in: 1994 - 1996
11485 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/chakri_naruebet_galeria_01.html

Spain
Principe de Asturias
build in: 1979 - 1982
17190 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/principe_de_asturias_galeria_01.html

Italy
Giuseppe Garibaldi
build in: 1981 - 1984
13600 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/giuseppe_garibaldi_galeria_01.html

United Kingdom
Invincible
Illustrious
Ark Royal
build in: 1973 - 1981
20600 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/invincible_galeria_01.html

France
Charles de Gaulle
build in: 1989 - 1994
40600 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/charles_de_gaulle_galeria_01.html

Russia
Kuznetsov
build in: 1983 - 1988
65000 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/kuznetsov_galeria_01.html

Brasil
Sao Paulo
(ex Foch/Clemenceau)
build in: 1955 - 1960
32780 BRT

http://www.okrety.friko.pl/clemenceau_galeria_01.html

Ratamacue
02-14-2004, 02:14 PM
why? :petting:


why not?

You're so clever.

Why not? Because it was totally unnecessary. The photo was taken before 9/11.

TALOS
02-14-2004, 03:23 PM
why? :petting:


why not?

You're so clever.

Why not? Because it was totally unnecessary. The photo was taken before 9/11.
Its amazing how some little kids think its funny to belittle other peoples loss, he would prolly be the first to whine if someone made fun of something or someone he lost.

MolliG
02-14-2004, 03:48 PM
Admiral Kuznetsov (Russia)

http://www.armymuseum.ru/airspace/images/photoair/p1b.jpg

http://www.armymuseum.ru/airspace/images/photoair/p1c.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/giganten-zur-see/images/udssr/bilder/kusneczov/admiral_kuznetsov_bild.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz8.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz2.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz5.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz1.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz9.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz7.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz3.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz4.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/kuznetsov/images/kuz6.jpg


The Kuznetsov Class heavy aircraft carrying cruiser, also known as Project 1143.5 or Orel Class, was constructed at Nikolayev South Shipyard on the Black Sea in the Ukraine. The Admiral Kuznetsov, was launched in 1985. A second-of-class vessel, the Varyag, was launched in 1988 but was never commissioned. Admiral Kuznetsov is the only aircraft carrier in the Russian Navy. The hull design is based on the earlier Admiral Gorshkov, launched in 1982, but it is larger with a full load displacement, 58,500t as compared to 40,400t...

... The Admiral Kuznetsov supports strategic missile carrying submarines, surface ships and maritime missile-carrying aircraft of the Russian fleet.

Took off from (a virtual) her a few minutes ago in my (virtual) Su-33 (aka Su-27K). :P

elguapo
02-14-2004, 04:06 PM
http://www.cdi.org/russia/6feb04-7.cfm

Russia No Longer Needs Aircraft-Carriers

Navy Commander-in-Chief, Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov says that Russia gives up production of bigger class vessels so typical of the Soviet epoch.

The RF Defense Ministry has developed a plan of the Navy development for the period till 2040-2050, Gazeta reports. Basic theses of the plan are disavowal of protection of Russia's interests in oceans and consequently switching to production of smaller vessels navigating within the limits of 500-meters territorial waters zone.

Navy Commander-in-Chief, Admiral Vladimir Kuroyedov says that Russia gives up production of bigger class vessels so typical of the Soviet epoch and switches to production of multi-purpose vessels. According to the Navy commander-in-chief, Russia will have unique frigates and corvettes of its own. He adds that it is too early today to speak about aircraft-carriers - the issue will be topical within the next ten years only. However, Russia will not sell or decommission its only aircraft-carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov".

Director of the Center for Strategy Analysis and Technologies Ruslan Pukhov said in an interview to Gazeta that the Navy will have to get rid of the vessel as well. He says: "If the Navy needs the aircraft-carrier so much, it should be repaired and used in campaigns. Today, the only purpose of "Admiral Kuznetsov" existence is to give job to navy pilots, which seems to be too expensive indeed."

The Center director adds that there are only 12 navy pilots in Russia; training of younger pilots would be more advantageous abroad, at Ukraine's aerodrome in Saki or on "Admiral Gorshkov" aircraft-carrier recently sold to India. Ruslan Pukhov thinks that if "Admiral Kuznetsov" is sold training of younger pilots could be started within the nearest years, as "Admiral Gorshkov" needs repairing that will take four years.

In fact, today the condition of "Admiral Kuznetsov" is not perfect as well. The vessel was launched in 1989 and requires thorough repairs. As of now, the aircraft-carrier stays at the Sevmorput shipyard. When the vessel was sent for 4-day sea trials, it immediately went to the bottom.

The expert adds that production of Russian aircraft-carriers is out of question within the nearest 15 years; it is more advantageous to build new frigates and corvettes at the cost of $100 and $500 millions correspondingly.

This year, Russia is to give up the legendary military base located in the Vietnamese Bay of Cam Ranh that has been used within 20 years. When speaking about the loss, admirals and generals have deep sighs: indeed, the Navy will thus have its only point of logistical support located in Syria. So, Russia is losing the symbols of the empire's bygone might. Hitler mounted Siegfried statues along the Third Reich boundary. Russian bases, the naval ones in particular, performed the same role.

It is often said that Soviet leader Joseph Stalin carried the war constantly referring to the globe. But as seen from the position of military bases abroad, this statement more concerns Stalin's followers. After WWII, the USSR had naval bases in Cuba, Somalia, Ethiopia, Vietnam, Poland, Germany and Yemen. Soviet seamen could be seen in any part of the world.

In different periods, the Soviet Navy had naval bases in Cuba (Cienfuegos), Poland (Swinomunde), Germany (Rostok), Finland (Porkkala-Udd), Somalia (Berbera), Vietman (Cam Ranh), Syria (Tartus), Yemen (Hodeida), Ethiopia (Nokra), Egypt and Lybia. Today, the might of the Soviet empire is gone. The Russian Navy has only two signal office centers outside the country - Vileiki in Belarus and Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan, one logistical support base Tartus in Syria and one military base in Kant (Kyrgyzstan).

The Iraqi war has once again demonstrated that technical superiority of one of the sides guarantees success. Thus a conclusion can be made that Russian military technique will hardly do for modern wars. Otherwise, Saddam would have still stayed on the presidential post in Iraq. The national tank corps used to consist of 63 thousand machines and kept Europe and Asia in awe (the general staff said that Soviet troops could reach the English Channel or the Yellow Sea with the tanks). Today, the fleet has considerably reduced (it makes up 20,000 tanks) and is much weaker for repulsion of the aggression. At that, the RF Ministry of Defense states that only every fifth tank of the fleet meets the present-day requirements. These are mostly engineering developments of the 1970-80s, the outdated models T-72 and T-80. The Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper reports that during the Iraqi campaign Baghdad counted on these tanks most of all.

Unfortunately, when we speak about modern Russian tanks we mean models produced at least ten years ago. Within this period, the Ministry of Defense has ordered just few dozens of T-90 tanks, the amount that can hardly change the situation in the tank corps. The Ministry of Defense does not plan to purchase new tanks in the nearest time at all.

The situation is that unfavorable in the aviation and submarine fleet as well. Much has been recently said about arms modernization, and Rosoboronexport demonstrates lots of new models at arms exhibitions. However, the situation still remains the same.

Dmitry Chirkin

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 04:58 PM
I think its werid the Soviets didnt really try to catch up with are Navy during the Cold War :D

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 05:17 PM
why? :petting:


why not?

You're so clever.

Why not? Because it was totally unnecessary. The photo was taken before 9/11.
Its amazing how some little kids think its funny to belittle other peoples loss, he would prolly be the first to whine if someone made fun of something or someone he lost.



stop bitching about it already, WAH WE ARE POOR AMERICANS WAH WE ARE UNDER ATTACK WAH :fork: , its nothing compared to what your nazi america did to other nations.

Ratamacue
02-14-2004, 05:18 PM
I'm not really that upset by it, but I don't see why you had to do that. It was completely unnecessary and off-topic. Is there a reason that you did it or did she just want to throw some flamebait into the stream?

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 05:29 PM
more pics of aircraft aboard kuznetsov

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/su33-6.jpg
http://www.army.lv/Samoleti/Suhoj/Su-33/Su-33(9).jpg
http://www.russavia.hotbox.ru/Res/Gallery/Su-33.jpg
http://aviaforce.free.fr/avions/images/chasse/su33/su33_5.jpg
http://www.softdom.com/abo/pmg/armruss/photos/AvC_Su33.JPG
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/mig/29/k/img/mig29k.jpg
http://www.navy.ru/science/images/ka27.jpg
http://www.navy.ru/science/images/su33_2.jpg
http://www.navy.ru/science/images/su33_1.jpg
http://www.navy.ru/science/images/a1143kuzn5.jpg

perdurabo
02-14-2004, 05:52 PM
maybe russians arent great in electronics or human rights but one is sure they are bryliant in aero and hydro dynamics and in bad ass looking of their equipment :D nothing more bad-ass than thypoon clas sub and a su fighter :)

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 05:54 PM
maybe russians arent great in human rights


belive me, the ****ers deserve to be burned in hot ****ing oil

http://www.*********.com/chechenya.html :| enter at your own risk.

perdurabo
02-14-2004, 05:57 PM
fulcrum dont start it.

Fulcrum
02-14-2004, 05:57 PM
fulcrum dont start it.



ok.. lets just forget about it and stick with the topic :P

MolliG
02-14-2004, 06:02 PM
I think its werid the Soviets didnt really try to catch up with are Navy during the Cold War :D

Well they did (and still do) have quite a few Backfires with (quite) large anti-ship missiles, both conventional and nuclear types.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-22m_5.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-22m_6.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-22m_7.jpg

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/range.gif

Blackjack:

http://www.russavia.hotbox.ru/Res/Gallery/Tu-160.jpg

:)

Operation Ivy
02-14-2004, 06:20 PM
Stole these from He219 :P

USS Washington
http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/Carrier1.jpg

USS Enterprise woot
http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/USS_Enterprise.jpg

Uninen
02-15-2004, 11:12 AM
:petting: Thats the reality now.. and also.. lets take a look at some computer games.. after 911, their patches included removal of WTC, if they had included it before.. :|

IE Microsoft Flight Simulator.. :|

BlackRain
02-15-2004, 12:12 PM
Future UK proposal designs.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/cvf/images/CVF_10.jpg

The new UK Aircraft Carriers will be based on a design by Thales UK with BAE Systems as prime contractor.


http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/cvf/images/CVF_11.jpg

The carriers will be twice the size of the three Invincible Class carriers and accommodate twice as many aircraft. (Thales design)

BlackRain
02-15-2004, 12:15 PM
NORTHROP GRUMMAN AWARDED CONTRACT
FOR WORK ON FUTURE AIRCRAFT CARRIER, CVN 21

Construction on the first new generation carrier is slated to begin in 2007. Innovations for the next-generation aircraft carrier include an enhanced flight deck with increased sortie rates, improved weapons movement, a redesigned island, a new nuclear power plant, allowance for future technologies and reduced manning


http://www.nn.northropgrumman.com/news/2003/CVN21_Contract/DCS03-41.JPG