f15 midair collision

[Pille1234]

you may have seen this video before, 2 f15 collide:
http://www.rob.com/matt/videos/F15_midair.wmv

I think that is the explanation
http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:KSfBkgaJ-McJ:www2.acc.af.mil/accnews/jun03/03213.html+midair+collision+f-15&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[Vance]

Ouch. :(

[Groove]

Hardcore ! His "MAYDAY" dont sounds that cool... I hope they are okay !

[Seoulstriker]

that's crazy!!! how hard did they hit??? :(

[Merik]

Well they were dogfighting and the plane that the guy with the camera hit was inverted, so I'd say it was a pretty damn hard hit.

[Seoulstriker]

i have no idea how he could survive that... the camera is pointing forwards (boresight), and the other plane is planar-perpindicular to him... his nose must have been broken right off. :(

[Merik]

The foward fuselage, basically everything from the intakes up to the radome, is designed to literally break apart from the rest of the aircraft. So maybe that happened. It looked like he hit the wing of the other f-15, I dunno. Just a thought.

[admar2]

I like how you can hear the Master Caution go off right after the collision.

It's like, no ****.

[Trigger]

I remember an incident in the 80s when the IDF were conducting Air Combat training. An F-15 collided with an A-4 Skyhawk. The Skyhawk crashed but the pilot of the F-15 managed to stabilize his aircraft and land safely despite losing an ENTIRE WING.

Maybe some of the Israelis can confirm or correct this story.

[IDFM203]

Yep you’re right, Trigger :D

I actually had a post about it a while ago (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

BTW just a brief correction. It was an IAF plane. (I mean A Marine would take offence if you refered to a Marine story as a U.S. army one ;) )



F15 Wingless Landing

On May 1st. 1983, a dogfight training took place between two F-15D's and four A-4N Skyhawks over the skies of the Negev desert in Israel.

The F-15D (#957, nicknamed 'Markia Shchakim', 5 killmarks) was used for the training of a new pilot in the squadron. Here is the description of the event as described in "Pressure Suit": "

At some point I collided with one of the Skyhawks, at first I didn't realize it. I felt a big strike, and I thought we passed through the jet stream of one of the other aircraft. Before I could react, I saw the big fire ball created by the explosion of the Skyhawk.

The radio started to deliver calls saying that the Skyhawk pilot has ejected, and I understood that the fire ball was the Skyhawk, that exploded, and the pilot was ejected automatically. There was a tremendous fuel stream going out of the wing, and I understood it was badly damaged.

The aircraft flew without control in a strange spiral. I re-connected the electric control to the control surfaces, and slowly gained control of the aircraft until I was straight and level again. It was clear to me that I should eject. When I gained control I said :

"Hey, wait, don't eject yet!". No warning light was on and the navigation computer worked as usual; I just needed a warning light in my panel to indicate that I missed a wing..." The instructor ordered me to eject.

The wing is a fuel tank, and the fuel indicator showed 0.000 so I assumed that the jet stream sucked all the fuel out of the other tanks. However, I remembered that the valves operate only in one direction, so that I might have enough fuel to get to the nearest airfield and land. I worked like a machine, wasn't scared and didn't worry. All I knew was: as long as the sucker flies, I'm gonna stay inside. I started to decrease the airspeed, but at that point one wing was not enough.

So I went into a spin down and to the right. A second before I decided to eject, I pushed the throttle and lit the afterburner. I gained speed and thus got control of the aircraft again. Next thing I did was lowering the arresting hook.

A few seconds later I touched the runway at 260 knots, about twice the recommended speed, and called the tower to erect the emergency recovery net. The hook was torn away from the fuselage because of the high speed, but I managed to stop 10 meters before the net. I turned back to shake the hand of my instructor, who urged me to eject, and then I saw it for the first time - no wing

The IAF (Israeli Air Force) contacted McDonnell Douglas and asked for information about the possibility to land an F-15 with one wing . MD replied that this is aero-dynamically impossible, as confirmed by computer simulations... Then they received the photo.... After two months the same F-15 got a new wing and returned to action. This is what "Flight international, 8 June 1985" wrote about the incident:

"The most outstanding Eagle save was by a pilot from a foreign air force. During air combat training his two seater F-15 was involved in a mid-air collision with an A-4 Skyhawk. The A-4 crashed, and the Eagle lost its right wing from about 2ft. outboard. After some confusion between the instructor who said eject, and the student who outranked his instructor and said no, the F-15 was landed at its desert base. Touching down at 290 kt, the hook was dropped for an approach and engagement. This slowed the F-15 to 100 kt, when the hook weak link sheared, and the aircraft was then braked conventionally.

It is said that the student was later demoted for disobeying his instructor, then promoted for saving the aircraft. McDonnell Douglas attributes the saving of this aircraft to the amount of lift generated by the engine intake/body and "a hell of a good pilot" .
http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/images/F15Wing1.jpg
http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/images/F15Wing2.jpg
http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/f15wing.asp

shalom :D

[Seoulstriker]

that is a really incredible story. :) woot

[Merik]

Lol I read about that a few weeks ago.