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Flavius22
12-19-2005, 08:33 PM
Web posted at: 12/19/2005 2:41:19
Source ::: Internews

LAHORE: Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmood Kasuri has said that Pakistan is strictly opposed to any US attack on Iran and will stand by Tehran if this extreme step is taken by Washington.

“Iranian foreign minister’s statement during his recent visit to Pakistan provides testimony to our policy towards Tehran. Pakistan aspires to resolve the Iranian nuclear issue according to the principles of the International Atomic Energy Agency,” Kasuri said while talking to reporters in his hometown, Kasur.

Kasuri said that neglecting defence would be a suicide in the present scenario and Pakistan would acquire the latest technology and defence equipment at all costs to maintain a balance of power in the region.

The deferred purchase of F-16s has started, as this was put on hold only for coping with the situation arising out of the October 8 earthquake, he said.

The foreign minister said Pakistan has categorically told the United States that only the latest version of F-16s would be accepted and has also imposed the condition of transfer of technology.

Pointing out that India had signed agreements with Russia, the US and other countries to pile up weapons, Kasuri said this situation forced Pakistan to consider every option for its survival.

Kasuri said Pakistan is examining the situation carefully and has taken many steps to counter any situation. The entry into the Asean and improvement in relations with the European Union are some of these steps, he said.

On the Kashmir issue, Kasuri said Pakistan has shown flexibility and her efforts made possible the Muzaffarabad-Srinagar bus service, visits of Kashmiri leaders from both sides and opening of five points at the Line of Control for the relief of quake victims.

“But all this is unilateral and Pakistan has made it clear to India that this was maximum we can do and Pakistan cannot go beyond this. India will have to soften its stand on Kashmir because this issue could be solved only through reciprocal process,” he said.

On the recent summit of the Organisation of Islamic Conference, Kasuri said inclusion of the Kashmir issue in the Makkah Declaration is the distinctive success of Pakistan and every Islamic country has backed Pakistan on this issue.

Kasuri said Pakistan also submitted proposals in the conference to make the organisation viable for resolving all the issues confronting the Islamic countries.

All the proposals related to Kashmir, Palestine, steps to improve the economic condition of poor Islamic countries and promotion of science and technology have been included in the proposed draft of ten-year action plan approved by the Makkah Summit, Kasuri said.

About Israel, Kasuri declared that Pakistan would not establish diplomatic contacts with Israel till it recognises Palestine as an independent state.

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&subsection=Pakistan+%26+Sub-Continent&month=December2005&file=World_News2005121924119.xml

Kingswat
12-19-2005, 08:49 PM
yay, so its starting.

Michael RVR
12-19-2005, 08:58 PM
This is an interesting development..

CG51
12-19-2005, 09:01 PM
Yep, all the little dots on the globe are lining up...

etlamatey
12-19-2005, 09:08 PM
And I bet India will back it too, politically if not militarily. Khatami was the chief guest at her republic day parade in 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2695629.stm

In any case, even if Iran is run over, what do you do then? In Iraq, it was easy to criminalize and persecute Saddam especially since the majority were of a different ethnicity and were the oppressed, but in Iran, what do you do to Khameini? He is neither a general nor a politician, and harming a religious figurehead in any way would draw heavy flak from the Muslim world.

Pille1234
12-19-2005, 09:11 PM
A new member entering the stage to score some points in the rethorics game. As long as they make sure there's still a backdoor when things turn serious.

Omaha
12-19-2005, 09:17 PM
And I bet India will back it too, politically if not militarily. Khatami was the chief guest at her republic day parade in 2003:



I am sorry to say it, but you don't know much about Pakistan Indian relations.


India hates Pakistan, and vice versa. They will never ally together on anything, let alone agianst the US. (India that is, Pakistan doesn't have a problem with it I guess.)





Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmood Kasuri has said that Pakistan is strictly opposed to any US attack on Iran and will stand by Tehran if this extreme step is taken by Washington.


That is sad, but not surprising. The PM of Pakistan (or what ever it is they call him) has had attempts on his life for supporting the US. It isn't any shocker the government would float these ideas to score some points at home.

I really doubt Pakistan, at least at this point in time, would make a step to actually, militarily oppose the US.

usa320
12-19-2005, 09:50 PM
India hates Iran last time i checked.

I think pakistan would help Iran because Pakistan has some investment in the success of Iran's weapons program.

etlamatey
12-19-2005, 10:28 PM
India hates Iran last time i checked.
Really? Where did you check? Here are some facts:

1. As mentioned in my earlier post, Khatami was the chief guest to India's republic day parade in 2003. This honor is accorded only to a respected head of a friendly state.

2. As we speak, India and Iran are on the way to finalizing a deal on a natural gas pipeline between the two countries. Surprising, this pipeline passes through Pakistani territory! Nor surprisingly, this deal is opposed by the US: http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/12/18/afx2399809.html

3. After India voted to send Iran to the security council in the september IAEA council meeting, it faced rabid protests from the Muslim and Left lobbies in parliament and had to backtrack on its stance and now maintains that the Iran nuclear issue has to stay within IAEA and not any further. Remember, there are 130 million muslims in India; its not easy for any Indian government to take an anti-Iran stance without ruffling feathers in its own constituency.

4. In the words of Karan Singh, the chief whip of the ruling party in the Rajya Sabha, "...because we are friends of both Iran and the US.."
http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/nov/10inter.htm

Really, where did you get the idea that India hates Iran?

Kingswat
12-19-2005, 10:50 PM
Really? Where did you check? Here are some facts:

1. As mentioned in my earlier post, Khatami was the chief guest to India's republic day parade in 2003. This honor is accorded only to a respected head of a friendly state.

2. As we speak, India and Iran are on the way to finalizing a deal on a natural gas pipeline between the two countries. Surprising, this pipeline passes through Pakistani territory! Nor surprisingly, this deal is opposed by the US: http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2005/12/18/afx2399809.html

3. After India voted to send Iran to the security council in the september IAEA council meeting, it faced rabid protests from the Muslim and Left lobbies in parliament and had to backtrack on its stance and now maintains that the Iran nuclear issue has to stay within IAEA and not any further. Remember, there are 130 million muslims in India; its not easy for any Indian government to take an anti-Iran stance without ruffling feathers in its own constituency.

4. In the words of Karan Singh, the chief whip of the ruling party in the Rajya Sabha, "...because we are friends of both Iran and the US.."
http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/nov/10inter.htm

Really, where did you get the idea that India hates Iran?



Yeah, but pakistan beat them to siding with Iran, and since India does hate Pakistan, they will side against them.

dedgod
12-19-2005, 11:53 PM
I think the Pakistan v/s India with regards to Iran reasoning above is very simplistic...

The statement by the foreign minister, weird as it may sound doesn't reflect pakistani thinking....
Pakistan and iran don't get along, because iran is primarily shia. (Actualy thats the reason most other muslim states don't get along with Iran, and that's why a lot of them backed Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war, since he was a sunni controlling a Shia majority iraq- and they don't want another powerfuil Shia state....iran is enough trouble...)
Iran and Saudi Arabia do not get along. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are two edges of the same sword. India doesn't care too much about Iran, except that it thinks it can encircle Pakistan if Iran is on their side. Also Iran is the closest of the oil rich ME states (in the end, it all comes down to oil doesnt it ? :-))
) and has a lot of natural gas resources, that india hopes to tap via a pipeline...So India has been pallying up to iran. But they did vote against Iran in the latest IAEA vote (i think) which probably pissed the iranians off no end i'm sure..
So in short its complicated..... :)

Frankly if it ever really comes down to Iran v/s the US...no one is going to back Iran...

Omaha
12-20-2005, 12:02 AM
A Muslim state will always ally with another Muslim state. Especially against India, a Hindu state.

Need I go into depth of the Hindu Muslim conflicts during the British occupation of the region? The entire reason Pakistan was formed.

The idea that Pakistan wouldn't support Iran over India simply because the Iranians are Shia, that idea is a bit flawed in my opinion.




Frankly if it ever really comes down to Iran v/s the US...no one is going to back Iran...


I agree there.

BlitzCod
12-20-2005, 03:58 AM
Oh.. Why they just slam their ****s on the table and see who has the longest.. :cantbeli:

And stop playing with nukes and war. I think that this is getting too dangerous. Few leaders has a crazy idea and the people will suffer. It seems like that the dumbest ****s are always leading nations. This DEvolution will kill us all soon. Il go to dig a 500m deep foxhole to back of my yard now.

Dalleer
12-20-2005, 04:04 AM
Yes , Blitzcod , if it would only be that simple sometimes..

asch
12-20-2005, 08:37 AM
India aind Pakis together?
nnnoooo sh*t?
no way.

pelao
12-20-2005, 09:32 AM
I taught India and Pakistan hates one to each other because Cachemira´s border.

Anyway, Iran will be probably the next objective to USA.

S'13
12-20-2005, 09:38 AM
And I bet India will back it too, politically if not militarily. Khatami was the chief guest at her republic day parade in 2003:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2695629.stm


No... that would only harm its growing relations with Israel.

And believe me, India and Israel both have very strong militray interest with each other. One example is Israel being India's second largest arms supplier.

And this goes beyond business... a sort of comradeship between two democratic states that face Islamic terrorism.

So Khatami being a guest at a military parade in India some two years ago doesn't say anything.