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Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-22-2005, 08:16 AM
[/URL] The new officer cadet: fat, asthmatic and colourblind

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By Michael McKinnon and Michael McKenna

December 23, 2005


AUSTRALIA'S military may soon be led by overweight officers with poor eyesight and asthma under a radical proposal to tackle a recruitment crisis within the Defence Force.
The army, navy and airforce are considering plans to relax eyesight and weight criteria for officer recruits in an effort to fill recruitment quotas and accept more of the 10 per cent of applicants who fail on health grounds. The chiefs of Australia's three military services have ordered a review of the once-strict eligibility criteria in the face of falling numbers of recruit applications and government moves to expand the size of the Defence Force amid current global instability. Documents, obtained by The Australian under Freedom of Information laws reveal the ADF has for the sixth consecutive year fallen 20 per cent short of its recruitment target at the same time as it deals with increasing numbers of Defence staff leaving for the more lucrative private sector.
The recruitment problems are being felt across all three services, as well as the Army Reserve, with the greatest shortfalls among officer candidates.
Novel tactics - including giveaways of ADF-themed computer games and advertising campaigns during the cinema releases of action movies - have failed to lift recruitment numbers.
According to the documents, obtained after a challenge in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, the top-level Chiefs of Service Committee earlier this year ordered further study of proposed measures to address the crisis, conceding the recruitment failures "do, or will, limit ADF capability options".


Among the more contentious proposals is for the ADF to review physical requirements for officer candidates, including those who failed to pass "body-mass index" criteria. The BMI is part of the medical examination of ADF recruits, who are required to be within the "acceptable weight-for-height range" before they are then allowed to undergo pre-entry physical fitness assessments.
The ADF also imposes a range of restrictions on candidates with eyesight impairments, including bans on people with severe colour blindness. Conditions such as asthma can also prevent admission to the ADF.
In June, the committee said it was considering a Defence Force Recruitment Board plan to review BMI requirements for officers and abandon restrictions on asthma sufferers. "Agreement to review the potential benefits of adopting risk management strategies for asthma and body-mass index afflicted candidates," the report said.
The DFR also canvassed possible changes to existing restrictions on candidates with poor eyesight.
In a statement yesterday, the ADF said it would not "pre-determine" the results of the review, but stated that the current candidate criteria - including age and citizenship - exclude about 10 per cent of aspirants to the military.
"Prior experience of asthma, poor eyesight and obesity are significant in reducing the pool of suitable applicants," the statement said. "What Defence does wish to do however is to assess whether some of these standards are unfairly excluding some applicants whom otherwise would be deemed highly suitable for a military career."
Recruitment policies for prospective RAAF and army specialist officers, including lawyers and doctors, are also being revised.
Analysis of the proposals is contained in the Defence Force's Recruiting Strategic Plan 2005-10, which was finalised late last month.
Assistant Defence Minister De-Anne yesterday said there was no intention of reducing recruitment standards.
But Ms Kelly said "modern technology" now allowed certain physical conditions to be "well managed".
"There are elite athletes who are asthma sufferers," she said. "But we need people who are fit to fight and we are looking at ways of helping people to become fit."
The ADF documents reveal the worst recruitment shortfalls are in attracting prospective officers, predicted to be 33 per cent below the required numbers, with the remaining ranks falling 17 per cent short.
Overall, the ADF fell 1000 short of its recruitment targets last year.
On current trends, the ADF has warned that the Defence Force will shrink from about 52,000 personnel to 48,500 by 2010 - significantly below the 55,000-strong force planned by Defence Minister Robert Hill.
Australia Defence Association executive director Neil James said the ADF needed to be careful in its review of recruitment standards.
"Something needs to be done to boost numbers coming into the ADF, like paying personnel more money, " Mr James said.
"But the problem is that if someone is recruited, who suffers from asthma or has poor eyesight, then they will never be able to be deployed. It reduces the flexibility of the entire ADF."

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a_very_ex_STAB
12-22-2005, 08:24 AM
Well obesity, asthma and short sight are all treatable conditions.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-22-2005, 08:32 AM
In my opinion on the recruitment process. The following should happen. Mind you. I'm not in the ADF and have only just applied for a general entry reserve position. So read into it what you will.


Lower the initial fitness standards on application and develop a fitness program that provides the level of fitness a soldier needs after training.
Recognise certain trade qualifications as being equilivant to a university degree for officer recruiting. (Boilermaking, Fitter, Mechanic)
Dental. If a potential recruit has bad teeth that can be fixed. Pay for the dentist to get them fixed
Greater flexibility in terms of personal lifestyle choice
Look at the possibility of moving units to the capitol cities. As nice as Darwin, Townsville are ect. They do not provide the level entertainment, cultural and other lifestyle amenities as the capitol cities which the majority of young people want. (You like going to the theatre or opera your not going to find it in Darwin)
Your not going to get reservists signing up with the amount of time needed to do basic. Especially for those who are working. No matter what protections are in place for reservists through the defence force act
Try to combat the redneck/bogan stereo type of the army. (huge drinking sessions, soldiers getting confined to barracks after brawls in singo, bastardisation ect)
Poor media representation. The ADF is not helping itself when something does happen. What appears to be cover ups ect ect. Also take this for example http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17645603-2,00.html
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17645603-2,00.html)
These are just some ideas I came up with in 5-10 minutes. Again i'm not in the ADF and this are just purely thoughts from an outsiders viewpoint.

ShotOver
12-22-2005, 09:35 AM
1. Lower the initial fitness standards on application and develop a fitness program that provides the level of fitness a soldier needs after training.
- Yeah, fair enough. But I don't think there is many lard arses waiting to sign up for the Army.

2. Recognise certain trade qualifications as being equilivant to a university degree for officer recruiting. (Boilermaking, Fitter, Mechanic)
- Haha! And have bricklayers and fitter car mechanics making the big decisions on the battlefield? I think not.

3. Dental. If a potential recruit has bad teeth that can be fixed. Pay for the dentist to get them fixed
- Yeah, fair enough. I've had 200$ worth of dental done already in the forces.
4. Greater flexibility in terms of personal lifestyle choice
- No, no goths, emo's or punks with piercings and dyed hair in my ADF.

5. Look at the possibility of moving units to the capitol cities. As nice as Darwin, Townsville are ect. They do not provide the level entertainment, cultural and other lifestyle amenities as the capitol cities which the majority of young people want. (You like going to the theatre or opera your not going to find it in Darwin)
- 1, have you been there? 2, what kind of Soldier would want to go to the opera?

6. Your not going to get reservists signing up with the amount of time needed to do basic. Especially for those who are working. No matter what protections are in place for reservists through the defence force act
- Yeah, they are protected through the act. They cannot be fired, so they have nothing to be worried about. Basic training is not that long, only 3 weeks basic for the Navy.

7. Try to combat the redneck/bogan stereo type of the army. (huge drinking sessions, soldiers getting confined to barracks after brawls in singo, bastardisation ect)
-Mate, your only talking about what YOU read in the papers, your not in the ADF, so you dont know anything about singo, bastardisation or huge drinking sessions.

8. Poor media representation. The ADF is not helping itself when something does happen. What appears to be cover ups ect ect. Also take this for example http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17645603-2,00.html
- You can't help it if the media are out to make the ADF look bad, the media is full of ****heads who want to target the ADF. They get their info from people inside the ADF who are losers and are getting targeted for being so, they could target any organisation or company throughout Australia and get the same results and ****heads.

Your idea of an Army filled with bricklaying, hair dyed, face peirced loser officers is not very idealistic. We do not have to go that low to get to boost our recruiting levels. Maybe the youth of Australia needs a kick up the arse.
Start at the base of the problem, their parents and schooling. They are the start of the problems.

Spend some time in the forces before you start spounting brilliant ideas about how we can fix recruiting levels and please put some more thought into your ideas, so far they would only help YOU get into the Army as an officer since your a boilermaker, goth who wants to be in as an Officer. Kinda biased wouldnt you say?

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-22-2005, 09:54 AM
No not at all. The lifestyle choices had nothing to with hair styles, or anything like that. I was basically being very politcally correct about homo******s.


2. Recognise certain trade qualifications as being equilivant to a university degree for officer recruiting. (Boilermaking, Fitter, Mechanic)
- Haha! And have bricklayers and fitter car mechanics making the big decisions on the battlefield? I think not.

I clearly stated that only certain trades should be accepted. And even then they still have to undergo the same training as any other officer. Take boilermaking for example. Apart from welding. It's basically maths, maths, maths oh and did I say maths? All at an engineering level.

And these ideas may look like it makes it easier for me to join. Which it does. But as I said in the original post. These are just ideas from an outsiders perspective on possible ways to improve recruitment intake so for sure it's going to make it easier for me.

And in any event. For what I intend to do in the reserves I meet all the requirenments. As the current standards are. Nice on dude :)

catalyst
12-22-2005, 10:09 AM
Take boilermaking for example. Apart from welding. It's basically maths, maths, maths oh and did I say maths? All at an engineering level.
Dude, If it was at a engineering university degree level....it would be a Bachelor is boilermaking.....it is a trade, not a ****ing science....it has elements of science.....I come from a boliermaker family with 13 members of my family involved in it....It is a skillful trade that is high in my list of trades.....but falls alot below a uni degree....

Violet Fashion by Mindy
12-22-2005, 10:22 AM
Being a boilermaker I beg to differ. Then again having spent 4 years working at a university and having seen how smart uni students are. You know. I could be biased... :)

I'm just raising this issue in the sense that perhaps the more technical trades like boilermaking be used as an alternative educational requirenment for entry.