1984

[Skaman]

Share your thoughts on the political 'fiction' novel by Orwell: 1984

[Roger Rabbit]

Load of crap.

I read it because i heard so many people talking about it and recomending it. I read it and thought it was over rated tosh. Howver i never have been a big fan of science-fiction which is basically the catergory i would put this in, apart from ****e of course.

Wuthering Heights on the other hand. I was surprised i enjoyed this book but i did. Excellent read, may not appeal to everybody. Don't watch the films of it though.

[Rantanplan]

Load of crap.

I read it because i heard so many people talking about it and recomending it. I read it and thought it was over rated tosh. Howver i never have been a big fan of science-fiction which is basically the catergory i would put this in, apart from ****e of course.

Wuthering Heights on the other hand. I was surprised i enjoyed this book but i did. Excellent read, may not appeal to everybody. Don't watch the films of it though.

Psssst........

http://www.georgeunderwood.com/graphics/big-brother.jpg

[Skaman]

Load of crap.

I read it because i heard so many people talking about it and recomending it. I read it and thought it was over rated tosh. Howver i never have been a big fan of science-fiction which is basically the catergory i would put this in, apart from ****e of course.

Wuthering Heights on the other hand. I was surprised i enjoyed this book but i did. Excellent read, may not appeal to everybody. Don't watch the films of it though.


Government control and censorship is a reality you do realize? Orwell writes about power control in its most extreme sense, portraying it in a drab, lifeless, thoughtless, and utterly melancholic/ desponded society. It is great writing that presents a grim look on the future. Orwell’s writing and ‘fictitious’ ideals can now be seen in corners of the globe we see as the leading nations of democracy and freedom.

Then again, some could equate his writing to outlandish 'red scare' McCarthy propaganda.

[Haiw]

We had to read it for English literature class. Pretty good book IMO. The best thing about it is that it manages to give its message while still being a good read.

[Roger Rabbit]

Yes i do realise that. I live in Britain, home of the CCTV camera and recently theres been a dramtic immigration of various ethnic types of Speed Cameras including the much hated GATSO.

Orwell was trying to make a point. He made his point effectively as his book is still deemed to be an excellent book and is on many reading lists at some point in various stages of education. However my thoughts on his novel is that its ****e. I think it is ****e because i do not like the characters, i find them dull. I fail to see how any people could possibly get themselves into that extreme a circumstance. I do however see that it is well written, thought provoking etc etc. I didnt like the novel but i still respect it.

[Skaman]

Yes i do realise that. I live in Britain, home of the CCTV camera and recently theres been a dramtic immigration of various ethnic types of Speed Cameras including the much hated GATSO.

Orwell was trying to make a point. He made his point effectively as his book is still deemed to be an excellent book and is on many reading lists at some point in various stages of education. However my thoughts on his novel is that its ****e. I think it is ****e because i do not like the characters, i find them dull. I fail to see how any people could possibly get themselves into that extreme a circumstance. I do however see that it is well written, thought provoking etc etc. I didnt like the novel but i still respect it.


Fair enough.

[MolliG]

woot

[Merik]

I hate it. I have to read that f&$@ing book and write my term paper at the same time which is due on tuesday.

[Fargin]

I liked it.

It confirmed my fears, yes I'm wearing a tinfoil hat as we type.

[mustamato]

It was good. It was not too realistic, but of course not since it was written
in 1948. And North Korea today, that´s just so Orwellian.

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Big brother

[Falco]

I had to read it for my french class last year. It'd a good book, it makes you think a lot but it's still classified as fiction.

[Haiw]

I had to read it for my french class last year. It'd a good book, it makes you think a lot but it's still classified as fiction.
...you're reading English literature for French class? Talk about Anglification! rofl

[Falco]

I had to read it for my french class last year. It'd a good book, it makes you think a lot but it's still classified as fiction.
...you're reading English literature for French class? Talk about Anglification! rofl

It was the french version duh

[California Joe]

I graduated college in 1984, they kept referring to the book all the damned time.

[Haiw]

I had to read it for my french class last year. It'd a good book, it makes you think a lot but it's still classified as fiction.
...you're reading English literature for French class? Talk about Anglification! rofl

It was the french version duh
Yeah, but still it doesn't make much sense. We always had to read German literature at German class, English literature at English class, etc. No translations.

[usa320]

Dicmus stop talking before big brother gets you...

Moron.

The books a load of **** for the most part as well.

The bottom line is that the government in the US, or Canada (which is the only thing Dicmus should worry about) have better things to do than watch every move of people who are clean.

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

[mustamato]

I don´t think usa320 actually was able to get past the first line in the book.
Hint to you usa320, the book was not about the US or Canada of today.

[California Joe]

I read it years ago in school. It was a depressing scenario.

[HooyahCQB]

"Come One...Come All.....Into Nineteen-Eighty-Four....."

[Falco]

I had to read it for my french class last year. It'd a good book, it makes you think a lot but it's still classified as fiction.
...you're reading English literature for French class? Talk about Anglification! rofl

It was the french version duh
Yeah, but still it doesn't make much sense. We always had to read German literature at German class, English literature at English class, etc. No translations.

For the record we also had to read l'Étranger from Albert Camus, L'avare from Molière and a bunch of stuff from Jules Verne.

[James]

I've read it and enjoyed it. Fans should also read "Homage to Catalonia" and "Down and Out in Paris and London" by Orwell.

[DE_Six]

I read it twice, first in school, second time just because. I liked it.

[hank]

Great book, load of crap, but great book.
I like Animal Farm better though.
hank

[California Joe]

In school I was partial to The Sun Also Rises by Hemingway.

[gaz]

I tried to read "1984" back when I was around fifteen but to be truthful I couldn't drum up much enthusiasm for it and gave up. Another book I'd reccomend for a not so pretty view of the future is "Jennifer Government" by Max Barry, not only does it hold your attention it's also very, very funny.

[Kitsune]

Well, I really liked it. A real classic.

But I think it is superseeded by history. Orwell wrote in a time with Nazi dictatorship just gone and "Communist" one still alive and kicking.
That is not the case anymore.


Well, I do not really think, that a dictatorship, that tries to control people totally, is a great danger today.
What could happen, that a society develops, in which the rulers INFLUENCE the population through much more subtle means...through the media. Information is overabundant, but falsified, exaggerated or even made up, while the truth stays hidden behind a multitude of smokescreens. The thing would be, that no one realizes that this is no free society, most think they are free and feel even well informed. But in fact people are influenced at will.
Rule is through PsyOps on a large scale.

I fear that something like this could be developing. :(

But perhaps I am just pessimistic.

[Kitsune]

p-)

[jassemon]

It's a good book, read it when I was in high school. IMO Animal Farm is better though. The translation sucked a bit, sub-machine gun was translated into 'alikonekivääri' :)

[Trigger]

I liked the Van Halen album better ;)

[NcDeuce]

1984 is overrated. Animal Farm is better. I'd rather stare at this...

http://www.afunworld.com/shared/20040216/8/xr100.jpg

...rather than a bunch of text that belongs in the garbage can.

[California Joe]

farmgirl?

[Durandal]

I agree with the rather dull presentation of 1984. I did enjoy it though though I have never been a huge fan of Orwell's writing style. He is not subtle, and I prefer a bit more in my reading...less preachy.

I, as it seems to be the general thought here on the forum, liked Animal Farm better, not only because I enjoyed it much more, but because Adult and kids (well maybe 10 to teen) can read it from cover to cover and understand it.

As far as anti-totalitarian sci-fi-ish readings go, I enjoyed Aldous Huxley's Brave New World a whole lot more. In part I think because it incorporates, not only calss issues, but race as well, which tend to be involved a fair amount when discussing these issues.

[hank]

I liked the Van Halen album better ;)

The only Van Halen albums worth discussing are Women and Children First and Van Halen (I depending on whether you are a "purist"). I saw Diamond Dave and the boys in 1984 at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum when I was in the seventh grade and it was the bomb. That was VH's last tour together before Spammy Haggard showed up. Saw'em again on 5150 in Memphis with Spammy and it sucked.

hank

[Trigger]

I must admit, I liked ALL of VH's stuff until Sammy took over vocals. It was just great Rock N Roll party music. I also like Sammy on his own, but together it was like mixing oil and water.

[farmgirl]

I liked the Van Halen album better ;)

The only Van Halen albums worth discussing are Women and Children First and Van Halen (I depending on whether you are a "purist"). I saw Diamond Dave and the boys in 1984 at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum when I was in the seventh grade and it was the bomb. That was VH's last tour together before Spammy Haggard showed up. Saw'em again on 5150 in Memphis with Spammy and it sucked.

hank

Women and Children First is excellent, but I've got a soft spot for Diver Down too.... some good memories related to that album. :D

[WARPIG]

Kind of funny how my memory of; the 1984 book and any image of the fluffy-haired, spandex wearing, prancing rocker... seem mildly amusing and disturbing at the same time. To take either of them seriously you had to be coked out of your head.

I also read the book and listened to VH in the eighties… I guess in retrospect both seem pretty comical.

[hank]

Nah, got to see Diamond Dave solo this summer at Chastain in Atlanta. Dave still looks great and does all the old standards better than ever. What is comical, however, is that all those formerly hot groupies that are 30-40 pounds heavier still get all dolled up and in a lather for Dave. In 1984 it was hot - now merely disturbing!

hank

[TriggerPuller]

I liked the Van Halen album better ;)

The only Van Halen albums worth discussing are Women and Children First and Van Halen (I depending on whether you are a "purist"). I saw Diamond Dave and the boys in 1984 at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum when I was in the seventh grade and it was the bomb. That was VH's last tour together before Spammy Haggard showed up. Saw'em again on 5150 in Memphis with Spammy and it sucked.

hank

Women and Children First is excellent, but I've got a soft spot for Diver Down too.... some good memories related to that album. :D Iam sure you do ......care to share? As for 1984 sorry missed it I was watching Debbie does Dallas instead!!

TP

TP

[Trigger]

DDD is soooo 1970s. :roll:

:D

[California Joe]

I saw Van Halen right after their first album came out. In Portland Maine. I'm old. It rawked.

[TriggerPuller]

DDD is soooo 1970s. :roll:

:DNahh 70's is Seka and John Holmes! DDD was the first ****o video I had owned.

TP

[JiJoMacLE45]

TP's right, you can't beat 70's ****. I feel dirty just putting it on, but I like that feeling.

[California Joe]

Thus the grotesque hedgehog avatar with the hirsute man****s.

[farmgirl]

I liked the Van Halen album better ;)

The only Van Halen albums worth discussing are Women and Children First and Van Halen (I depending on whether you are a "purist"). I saw Diamond Dave and the boys in 1984 at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum when I was in the seventh grade and it was the bomb. That was VH's last tour together before Spammy Haggard showed up. Saw'em again on 5150 in Memphis with Spammy and it sucked.

hank

Women and Children First is excellent, but I've got a soft spot for Diver Down too.... some good memories related to that album. :D Iam sure you do ......care to share? As for 1984 sorry missed it I was watching Debbie does Dallas instead!!

TP

TP


Well.... TP.... I was talking about the Van Halen album.... :oops: I'm sure I have no idea of what you speak.....

[hank]

I need to pay more attention to Farmgirl. For example:

"I've got a soft spot for Diver Down too.... some good memories related to that album."

Care to elaborate on those memories or should I get a camera b/c it won't translate into words? Huh? SOFT SPOT for DIVER DOWN! That's what I'm talking about!

hank

[farmgirl]

I need to pay more attention to Farmgirl. For example:

"I've got a soft spot for Diver Down too.... some good memories related to that album."

Care to elaborate on those memories or should I get a camera b/c it won't translate into words? Huh? SOFT SPOT for DIVER DOWN! That's what I'm talking about!

hank


Okay.... now I usually try to pay more attention to what I'm writing.... when I write it. For example I normally don't say anything about giving someone a hard time about things, because I know what kind of comments will ensue. However, I realize that I sort of walked right into this one. :oops:
The album Diver Down by Van Halen was and is a favorite of mine.... just sayin'....

In regards to my memories.... well... some I could relate without a camera... and some might be better told with pictures, but I'll save that for another day. p-)

[California Joe]

*changing name to "another day"* ;)