when was the last time Sweden fought in a war?

[Sayeret]

I've been hearing people talk about Sweden's military but when was the last time Sweden fought in a war or got involved in a peace keeping operation?

[Dalleer]

or got involved in a peace keeping operation?

Well, they are in Kosovo right now. Perhaps even in Eritrea with our people...

And what is the sole purpose of this thread? we have had quite too many of these types of threads concerning Sweden's military actions, and I can tell you that not all of them have been created in friendly spirit...

[mustamato]

Well, the last time swedish soldiers were in action where enemy soldiers
were killed was in 2003 in Congo. And in Congo by the way, in the 60´s
Sweden was involved in some heavy fighting where amongst other the
swedish Air Force flew combat sorties. And there has been some combat-
like incidents in example during the 90´s in Bosnia, where swedish APC´s
even has taken a full hit from AT-3 Saggers etc etc etc in all eternity.

But the last time the state of Sweden was in war was during the 19th
Century, against Norway that was forced into a union.

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/fvmus96/j29b_tunnan.jpg
J-29 Tunnan in UN-colours that saw action in Congo in the 60´s

http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/la3.jpg
Strf 9040C, one of the vehicles in the company Sweden is sending
to Liberia soon (next week?) to be part of the Irish UN-batallion

[George W. Bush]

I've been hearing people talk about Sweden's military but when was the last time Sweden fought in a war or got involved in a peace keeping operation?

Not anytime recently. They spend most of their time proving that they are morally right over the U.S.

[Kimster]

I've been hearing people talk about Sweden's military but when was the last time Sweden fought in a war or got involved in a peace keeping operation?

Not anytime recently. They spend most of their time proving that they are morally right over the U.S.

please... go somewhere else and write if you dont have anything more mature to write.

[admar2]

I've been hearing people talk about Sweden's military but when was the last time Sweden fought in a war or got involved in a peace keeping operation?

Not anytime recently. They spend most of their time proving that they are morally right over the U.S.

please... go somewhere else and write if you dont have anything more mature to write.

who exactly appointed you moderator-in-chief?

[soma]

Invasion of Canada.

[Sayeret]

Dalleer

So what if Sweeden has been talked about before on this forum. If it bothers you so much don't make a comment on my thread. This forum has been up long enough that people are going to repeat topics, so face it and don't give me a hard time about something so pointless.

[Uninen]

Just that everybody knows...
WAR IS A FAILURE! There is nothing cool about it.. no matter what G.W.Bush says.. rofl
Its nothing to be proud of.. :|

[Tommy Gunn]

Just that everybody knows...
WAR IS A FAILURE! There is nothing cool about it.. no matter what G.W.Bush says.. rofl
Its nothing to be proud of.. :|

Then I am sure that you are ready to surrender to Al Qaida when they get around to attacking Sweden because "war never solved anything".

[Uninen]

Tommy Gunn,
rofl

[Tengu]

Just that everybody knows...
WAR IS A FAILURE! I'm sure that is what hitler said right before he shot his brains out

[Uninen]

:roll: You really dont have a clue do ya? :backhand:

If war is a such a nice thing, i think that you guys are just waiting get one in our US? :cantbeli:

Next 911 anybody? :cantbeli:

[Javehn]

I think last century they had plenty of wars :lol: Just reading some book about it .

[lekomin]

http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/la3.jpg
Strf 9040C, one of the vehicles in the company Sweden is sending
to Liberia soon (next week?) to be part of the Irish UN-batallion
that is VERY interesting as it is the first photo of an 9040 with an extra armour on the turret.
take care
lekomin inc

[Uninen]

I think last century they had plenty of wars :lol: Just reading some book about it .

:petting:

(hint: last real war was for Swedes when they fought to the last Finn, and lost the Finland to Russians in 1809..)

;)

After that this nice little bufferzone called indepentend Finland (since 1917) has kept Swedes out of the harms way, including in both world wars..

[Javehn]

i mean 19 century ... I am still living in 20 century :roll:

[Uninen]

i mean 19 century ... I am still living in 20 century :roll:

I think that were on 21st? ;) Welcome to the future.. :)

[Dalleer]

So what if Sweeden has been talked about before on this forum. If it bothers you so much don't make a comment on my thread. This forum has been up long enough that people are going to repeat topics, so face it and don't give me a hard time about something so pointless.

Well, it rather seems that there has been too many topics created in 'questionable' attitude concerning Sweden's "absence" in various conflicts, or perhaps even the absence of a conflict in the Swedish soil for a long time.

Now I can fully understand if you are asking about this purely in order to gather information (which you now seem to do) or are simply interested, but some of the people that have started up topics concerning the Swedish military and it's actions have had nothing but slander and useless "shoveling the crap"-attitude on their minds.

Let's face it, topics like these often attract the likes of "Chobbamdog" or they'll be used against certain forum members and end up changing into these huge "hate gatherings".

I do not need to remind you all of a certain "Should we invade Sweden?"-topic that went to hell in a very short time...

[Parzival]

Sweden has fight a lot. Under the World war 2 Sweden sent over 10.000 soldiers to Finland. the airforce has also been in war under the world war 2. They defend north Finland. Of course was the soldiers volunteer to be there.

We have fight in Congo too. We send over 6000 soldiers too Congo 1960.

[mustamato]

http://www.mil.se/int/images/local/la3.jpg
Strf 9040C, one of the vehicles in the company Sweden is sending
to Liberia soon (next week?) to be part of the Irish UN-batallion
that is VERY interesting as it is the first photo of an 9040 with an extra armour on the turret.
take care
lekomin inc

First photo? Some more Strf 9040C:

http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/antenna/t2k/veh/bilder/cv90apliq.jpg
Prototype, this pic is a couple of years old. Note MG-slot in turret, the
version in use (pic below) has the MG on the roof instead (hm)

http://www.soldf.com/images/t_cv9040c.jpg
Hi-Res: http://www.soldf.com/images/s_cv9040c.jpg

http://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/strf90/images/90c/PA050013.jpg
Re-inforced underneath as well, better mine-protection in other words

Generally speaking there are both good (of course) and bad things with the
extra armour. In example the roads in Monrovia, Liberia, as well as the bridges
can´t take the Strf 9040C, the roads are muddy and the bridges are weak.

[Javehn]

I have to admit , STRV 103 is the kickest idea about tank , that someone would invent in the world , really new and controversial (sorry , no picture of it :( )

[mustamato]

I have to admit , STRV 103 is the kickest idea about tank , that someone would invent in the world , really new and controversial (sorry , no picture of it :( )

Are you kidding? It was a total disaster. It couldn´t fire while on the move,
it couldn´t cross large trenches etc etc. Actually, the older Centurion that was
also in use in Sweden at the time was considered superior. But "officially" the
swedes claimed that it was really good ****. But that was of course just what
had to be said.

http://www.plasticwarfare.com/gallerypages/strv103/P5200003.jpg
Although in a defensive position like this one, it would probably have been
quite good, since for the enemy to actually manage to hit it before it hit
you, well, not that easy?

[Javehn]

Well, ofcorse turretless tank can't fire on the move , that was the idea from the start of it's planning . I will tell you a little secret about the Centurion , that it's ability of hit on the move depends mostly on a gunner, tank must go on pretty slow speed to acheave that , and the max range is no more then 1500 m . Let me tell you another secret , the fire on move is possible mostly to 2-axis stabilisation , that was designed from the begining to fire faster after the tank is stoping . Yea , baby (by the way , there is probably only one tank in the world that is capable to perform real fire on the move , and you probably allready guessed what tank ) . And another thing , the aiming on STRV 103 is much more stable then on Centurion . And yes , while in position it takes pretty long time to aim (The gunner is also the driver) , and longer then on Centurion , on the move the STRV103 can change the gun position on 180 deg on a matter of seconds , what will probably take 6 seconds on Centurion. STRV103 has much better optics then Centurion .

So , it's not good to say that STRV 103 was a failure over A Centurion (you call it STRV104 in Sweden , correct? You don't wanna mess with a tanker , body !! ) .

But offcorse there are flaws , some i mentioned allready , or like the fact that there are 2 crew members (gunner/driver , and commander) that can get over burned from the work . The fact that it's Gaz turbine (this feature i don't like in tanks) . Well , it is very controversial tank , but the idea is one of the kind and very interesting .

[fantassin]

This is JUST to show that some swedes did fight during WW2; this is NOT to imply it was a general tendency of the Swedes; I am NOT LOOKING FOR A FLAME WAR !!!!

Swedish Volunteers in the German Wehrmacht in WWII
by Nicholas von Schmidt-Laussitz and Jason Pipes


History


During the Second World War Sweden was a neutral country with a relatively stong pro-Allied sentiment. The last major fighting Sweden took part in was during the Napoleonic Wars. When the Soviet Union invaded Finland in 1939 though, at least 10,000 men volunteered for service with the Finnish forces to fight against the Soviets. This number is especially significant because there were approximately 6.5 million people living in all of Sweden at the time. Sweden and Finland are both Northern European countries and had much in common, therefore, when the Soviets invaded, many Swedes felt compelled to join the Finnish Forces.

Because Sweden was a strict neutral during WWII, other than during the short experience of the Winter War in 1939, it did not openly allow for recruitment into foreign armies. When Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 its sentiments changed very little, although the Finns were allowed to garner volunteers once again. Approximately 1,500 Swedes volunteers for service with Finland between 1941 and 1944.

Before Germany invaded the Soviet Union, very few if any Swedes served with the Germans, although at least one Swedish volunteer was listed as serving with the 5.SS-Panzer-Division Wiking. When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Swedish volunteers for the German Wehrmacht were gathered either through the German Legation in Stockholm or throught the Auslands Organization, both via Norway. Swedish approval of recruiment was still not offical after the invasion of the Soviet Union though, and the volunteer operations were very much clandestine affairs. In total between 130 and 300 Swedes are thought to have served in the German Wehrmacht.

David Littlejohn lists the number of Swedish volunteers at 130 in volume 3 of "Foreign Legions of the Third Reich", 150 volunteers are listed according to Swiss Dr. Franz Riedweg - the head of Germanic Volunteer recruiting, 175 volunteers are listed by H. Picker in "Hitler's Table Talk", and 315 volunteers are listed by Gottlob Berger in an unpublished biography. 300 is the generally accepted number of volunteers in the German Wehrmacht, but approximately 30 to 45 Swedes were killed in WWII under Axis control with 130 Swedish volunteers surviving the war, according to Lennert Westberg, which would therefore place the actual number of volunteers at about 175.

11 Swedes are said to have gone to the SS Officers school at Bad-Tolz, and Swedes also are known to have fought in the Battle of Berlin in April of 1945 while serving in the Nordland Division. The vast majority of Swedes served in the ranks of the Waffen-SS, but never in a national unit or legion like many other ethnic groups. Most Swedes were scatterd within different Waffen-SS units and formations. The 5.SS-Panzer-Division Wiking, 11.SS-Panzergrenadier-Freiwilligen-Division Nordland, and the 23.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division Nederland are all known to have had Swedes in their ranks.

At least one small unit, Panzergrenadier-Kompanie 3 - Panzer-Aufkläkrung-Abteilung 11 - 11.SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division Nordland, (3rd Company of the Armored Recon Battalion of the 11th SS Volunteer Armored Infantry Division Nordland), was composed of a large number of Swedes. In fact, Panzergrenadier-Komapanie 3 was given the title Swedenzug as a result of the number of Swedes in its ranks. The Swedish volunteers served in the 4.Zug of Panzergrenadier-Kompanie 3.

[khukuri]

Well, ofcorse turretless tank can't fire on the move , that was the idea from the start of it's planning . I will tell you a little secret about the Centurion , that it's ability of hit on the move depends mostly on a gunner, tank must go on pretty slow speed to acheave that , and the max range is no more then 1500 m . Let me tell you another secret , the fire on move is possible mostly to 2-axis stabilisation , that was designed from the begining to fire faster after the tank is stoping . Yea , baby (by the way , there is probably only one tank in the world that is capable to perform real fire on the move , and you probably allready guessed what tank ) . And another thing , the aiming on STRV 103 is much more stable then on Centurion . And yes , while in position it takes pretty long time to aim (The gunner is also the driver) , and longer then on Centurion , on the move the STRV103 can change the gun position on 180 deg on a matter of seconds , what will probably take 6 seconds on Centurion. STRV103 has much better optics then Centurion .

So , it's not good to say that STRV 103 was a failure over A Centurion (you call it STRV104 in Sweden , correct? You don't wanna mess with a tanker , body !! ) .

But offcorse there are flaws , some i mentioned allready , or like the fact that there are 2 crew members (gunner/driver , and commander) that can get over burned from the work . The fact that it's Gaz turbine (this feature i don't like in tanks) . Well , it is very controversial tank , but the idea is one of the kind and very interesting .


Many people say str103 is a bad tank cuz they want to use it in the same way as a turret tank. Which ofcourse failes I would more like to call it an armored mechinized tank gun. . The tank also fires faster because the auto loader is really big, unlike those ones in russian turrets.
Other things that was bad with the tank is that it wasent a good "field tank". Some oils hade to be changed everyday and stuff like that.

DISCLAIMER: The statements above do not come from my experience with strv103, I dont have any. But they come from older friends of mine and my old officer which served with the strv103.


About sweden in war.
The topic seems to question what swedes really do know about war. I almost get a feeling that some of you a trying to make the point, "yea sweden have good gear but do they really know **** about war".

Yes, sweden havent been in war in a very long time, and no that have nothing to do with swedes beeing "peacful people". Its only because of that we hav had few reasons to be engaged in a war.

But, when sweden have been on peacekeeping operationes swedes have been having good grades from other countries. And thats fine to me. Thats why I though that the thread "what do you think about swedish army" was interesting cuz we dont really know how we match. We know better theese days.



Swedish Involvements
(with this I dont mean sweden as an official country, but more about the knowledge and experience we have)

ww2: Swedish volunteers helping finland (som of my old officers), for example, swedish navy torpedo boats where involved.

ww2: Some swedes joined Nazi SS (nothing to be proud over thou)

Korea War: Swedish Fighter pilots involved

Congo UN 1960:ies As mentioned before swedes involved in combat. Airforce did many groundattacks

Libanon UN, som time
Gaza strip UN
Egypt UN

Cyprus UN

Somalia: Swedes were engaged in fighting in the same camp that yankees lived in.

Guldf War, just a field hospital

Bosnia UN 94? Some fighting there

Kosovo

theese days

Kongo Kinshasa (been reports on some fighting)

Afghanistan: swedish special forces SSG is there, they say that they only been in eskort missions. Not sure about that myself. Now they will draw back SSG and send normal soilders.

Liberia: We will soon be there I think, not sure.

This is what i know. There maybe is more.

[khukuri]

oooopss
delete this one

[Marmot1]

He he only war that i remember with sweeden was Swedish invasion of Poland in XVII Century :-) but we kicked their asses after they looted our country... :-) We call it in poland "Swedish Flood"... to this day they diod not teturned some looted artworks and royal jevelery but some day WE WILL INVADE THEM AND WE WILL TAKE IT BACK. BEWARE SWEDES ;)

BTW isn't your current king Bernadotte anestor of Napoleon's geneal Bernadotte who was crowned as a king of sweeden? :lol: He he the frenchmans are rulling your country :P

[mustamato]

BTW isn't your current king Bernadotte anestor of Napoleon's geneal Bernadotte who was crowned as a king of sweeden? :lol: He he the frenchmans are rulling your country :P

Actual he was even higher than just a general, he was one of Napeleons
marshals. The reason to why he was chosen was that the current swedish
king died without having any sons. And having a french king was quite great
of economic reasons (or so they thought, but Napeleon ended up in prison).

http://home.snafu.de/veith/Texte/Bernadotte/Bernadotte2.jpg
Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte (swedish royal name Karl XIV Johan)

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0310/24/NYHETER-24s99Prins_368.jpg
Prince Carl-Philip, swedish frenchie

[Marmot1]

Economic yep... it's why we had sweedes as a kings of Poland - Waza dynasty :roll:
http://www.wcn.pl/foto/12045.JPG
http://www.pinakoteka.zascianek.pl/Matejko/Images/P_Zygmunt_3_Waza.jpg

Zygmunt (Sigmund) III Waza
1566 - 1632.
King: 1587 - 1632.
Son of finnish prince Jana (Johan) (later king of sweeden Jan (Johan) III Waza) and Katherine Jagiellonian, sister of Zygmunt (Sigmund) August (King of poland).

http://www.pinakoteka.zascianek.pl/Matejko/Images/P_Wladyslaw_4.jpg
Władysław IV Waza
1595 - 1648.
King: 1632 - 1648.
Son of Zygmunta (Sigmund) III Waza and Anna von Habsburg.

http://www.pinakoteka.zascianek.pl/Matejko/Images/P_Jan_Kazimierz.jpg
Jan (Johan) Kazimierz (Casimir) Waza
1609 - 1672
King: 1648 - 1668.
Son of Zygmunta (Sigmund) III Wazy and Konstance von Habsburg

Btw do you have more pics of your swedish-french princess??? :lol:

[mustamato]

Economic yep... it's why we had sweedes as a kings of Poland - Waza dynasty :roll:

You seem to be the right man to ask. What does poles think (and are learnt)
in school about this man. Hm, a lot of polish blood on his hands. I´ve (history
classes at University) read quite a lot of him, but only from a "swedish point of
view" of course. So would be quite interesting to know what you think.

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-19792/KARLXII.GIF

[Marmot1]

Economic yep... it's why we had sweedes as a kings of Poland - Waza dynasty :roll:

You seem to be the right man to ask. What does poles think (and are learnt)
in school about this man. Hm, a lot of polish blood on his hands. I´ve (history
classes at University) read quite a lot of him, but only from a "swedish point of
view" of course. So would be quite interesting to know what you think.

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-19792/KARLXII.GIF

Carl XII well nothing bad, AFAIK he forced "polish" king August II "Strong" to resign from a throne then he was defeated and August returned, worse memories we have with Carl X Gustav(sp?) and swedish invasion of poland. Btw did you know that we had 5 wars betwen our countries???

1563-1568
1600-1611
1625-1629
1655-1660 "Swedish flood"
1700-1721 "North War"

[mustamato]

Btw did you know that we had 5 wars betwen our countries???

1563-1568
1600-1611
1625-1629
1655-1660 "Swedish flood"
1700-1721 "North War"

Ah, and more to come sometime? About Karl XII by the way. The first time
he by himself led the swedish army in a battle was in Kliszow 9th of July 1702.
The polish army was defeated. 300 swedes died and the poles lost more than
2000 dead and wounded (and of course most of the wounded died later as was
the custom those days), also 1700 non-wounded poles were taken prisoners.
War booty included 46 artillery pieces and a huge amount of important stuff like
ammunition, food, clothes etc. And the 29 year old king was actually one of the
major persons, it was he himself that led the attack against the polish right flank.

And by the way, Karl XII had 2.6 liters of beer to breakfast every morning,
it says a lot doesn´t it? I would have been happy the rest of the day myself :)

http://www.princess-madeleine.com/site/madeleine/gallery/2001/london/images/pic04.jpg
You requested pictures of our french princess?
Here is some royal assss for you

[Marmot1]

Btw did you know that we had 5 wars betwen our countries???

1563-1568
1600-1611
1625-1629
1655-1660 "Swedish flood"
1700-1721 "North War"

Ah, and more to come sometime? About Karl XII by the way. The first time
he by himself led the swedish army in a battle was in Kliszow 9th of July 1702.
The polish army was defeated. 300 swedes died and the poles lost more than
2000 dead and wounded (and of course most of the wounded died later as was
the custom those days), also 1700 non-wounded poles were taken prisoners.
War booty included 46 artillery pieces and a huge amount of important stuff like
ammunition, food, clothes etc. And the 29 year old king was actually one of the
major persons, it was he himself that led the attack against the polish right flank.

And by the way, Karl XII had 2.6 liters of beer to breakfast every morning,
it says a lot doesn´t it? I would have been happy the rest of the day myself :)

http://www.princess-madeleine.com/site/madeleine/gallery/2001/london/images/pic04.jpg
You requested pictures of our french princess?
Here is some royal assss for you
Ok next one please "en face" not "en ass"

Kliszów
http://www.pinczow.com/kultura/przechadzka/images/kliszow.gif
Regional museum in Pińczów.

Well only some cavalery was polish in this battle since August II was not pole, he was a german from Saxoin who was elected by polish nobles as a King of Poland and most of the army was from saxoin not Poland, also there is rumor that polish cavalery after initial charge retreated to allow swedish victory (commander of cavalery Stanisław Hieronim Lubomirski did not wanted August II victory over swedish army since that would strenghten position of Wettins (saxoin dinasty) on polish throne and Lubomirski family had own ambition about puting one of them as a king... you know politics...)

[stuntman]

Who makes this mustardman?http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/antenna/t2k/veh/bilder/cv90apliq.jpg
Believe it or not I disagree with you alot but I love this ifv! If it came with ATGM I am sold!
Sorry can't contribute to the topic, but I am still curious.

[mustamato]

Hägglund Vehicle AB makes them. CV9040 is the standard IFV in Sweden,
I think more than 1000 has been built. It has also been exported to several
other european countries, one thing the exports versions have in common is that
they have a 30 mm cannon instead of a 40 mm Bofors. The 30 mm can carry
more ammo and is also more reliable, but then on the other hand the 40 mm
has "smart ammunition" available (the gunner can make the grenades
"airburst" over a enemy position in example).

http://www.military-page.de/gross/haegglund/cv90/bild_cv90_02gr.jpg
Standard IFV-version in use in Sweden, A and B-version, the C-model
you have a picture of is a version intended only for international duty

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/sib_4.jpg
The vehicles squad fight either "mounted" like this, or dismounted, with
the IFV supporting them with its 40 mm and 7.62 MG

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/sib_1.jpg
Heavier firepower is given by the MBT´s, note the CV9040 in the back

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/lifs_farligledning.jpg
Camouflaged CV9040

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/vagnspersonal.jpg
Crew of a CV9040, commander, driver and gunner. (The magazine
of the 40 mm is filled with new rounds by the rifle squad in the back)

http://www.p4.mil.se/images/local/eldgivning.jpg
AA version

http://www.mss.mil.se/taktik/images/local/amos_td_strf90.jpg
Dual 120 mm advanced mortar system (AMOS)

http://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/strf90/images/9056/PA050001.jpg
And here is your missile version

[Uninen]

Little off topic..

http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/patria/patria12.jpg

I like this better.. ;)

(Finnish AMV vehicle and dual 120mm, with Swedish Turret..)

[stuntman]

VERY NICEhttp://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/strf90/images/9056/PA050001.jpg
Now hehttp://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m2bradley.jpg
has someone to play with!

[mustamato]

VERY NICEhttp://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/strf90/images/9056/PA050001.jpg
Now hehttp://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m2bradley.jpg
has someone to play with!

The american ***** seems to be smaller than the swedish one.

[Kingpin]

Russia vs Sweden was last time during Peter the Great times.

Match ended 1-1. First time Sweden kicked our asses near Narva. Then we kicked their ones near Poltava.

[mustamato]

Russia vs Sweden was last time during Peter the Great times.

Match ended 1-1. First time Sweden kicked our asses near Narva. Then we kicked their ones near Poltava.

Isn´t Poltava in Ukraine? A looong way from home for the swedes. The
following events are strange when Karl XII and his army became "guests"
in Turkey as well after the defeat at Poltava. The swedes lived like kings
and stayed for years, finally they were asked to fokk off. The swedes
refused so the turks had to kick the swedes out, "Calabalic in Bender".
The troops had order to not kill or harm the swedish king, so he could
bravely kill dozens of them with his pistol and sword. Finally he came
home though, and started a new war immediately, someone had enough
and put a bullet through his head.

http://www.lansmuseet.varberg.se/upload/images/pic46133947-37930849.jpg
Karl XII and the bullet that hit him

[mustamato]

By the way, just have to add one more "mustamato has not seen before"
CV90 to the collection on the other page:

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/59468/TVA90-stör3.jpg
CV90 Jammer

[kinghk]

CV90 dive version

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/amfibisk-90(3).JPG

[Ian H]

By the way, just have to add one more "mustamato has not seen before"
CV90 to the collection on the other page:

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/59468/TVA90-stör3.jpg
CV90 Jammer


Afraid none of us have seen it either mate: Red cross galore!

[Nondescript]

By the way, just have to add one more "mustamato has not seen before"
CV90 to the collection on the other page:
CV90 Jammer

Can't see the picture but I'm guessing that you're talking about the electronic warfare version, Sorry about the link only being in Swedish.
http://www.s1.mil.se/index.php?lang=sve&c=news&id=19246

I got to see one of the early prototypes of the version, basically plywood mounted on the hull of a Strf 9040A. And we got to hear some interesting things about the new systems in development and so on. This thing is a good step forward in Swedens electronic warfare program.

[OldRecon]

Didn't Peter Englund have a documentary series about Karl XII on Swedish state television some years back like the battlefields of "Karl XII then and now". Quite interesting, despite not being as easy in format as the "Herman's history" series.
Actualy Bender nowdays is part of Moldavia.
In our history books Karl tend to be portraited as an aggressor, though think the Danes were first to declare war actualy.
And then you had other contemporary colourful characters to Karl like the privateer "Lasse in the street" and admiral "Thundershield" (a Norwegian/Danish equvivalent to lord Nelson, and just as daring if not more).
As for Bender actualy thought of putting foward that Åberg movie on the Kalabaliken in Bender in that "War movie topic" (rather rude of me to put forward that clip from "Hipp, hipp" under that topic though).
Anyway think Englund is one of the greatest history scholars worldwide at present. His book on Poltava is a Classic equal to Keegan's "Face of battle" (and can be read in English also), though the Dahlberg triology, describing the mechanisms behind the rise and fall of Sweden as a regional superpower during the 17th century, is even better (though not available in English).
Anyway have the impression that one of the effects of the Palme murder on you Swedes was an increased interest in your own history, and that this "nostalgia" increased even further when the economic boom leveled off and the "peoples home" started to crack.
Or maybe I'm rather far off the mark here?
Think there's been more history documentaries on Swedish state television after Palme than before at least.



Russia vs Sweden was last time during Peter the Great times.

Match ended 1-1. First time Sweden kicked our asses near Narva. Then we kicked their ones near Poltava.

Isn´t Poltava in Ukraine? A looong way from home for the swedes. The
following events are strange when Karl XII and his army became "guests"
in Turkey as well after the defeat at Poltava. The swedes lived like kings
and stayed for years, finally they were asked to fokk off. The swedes
refused so the turks had to kick the swedes out, "Calabalic in Bender".
The troops had order to not kill or harm the swedish king, so he could
bravely kill dozens of them with his pistol and sword. Finally he came
home though, and started a new war immediately, someone had enough
and put a bullet through his head.

http://www.lansmuseet.varberg.se/upload/images/pic46133947-37930849.jpg
Karl XII and the bullet that hit him

[Adri]

lol liked the "dive IFV" :lol:

we have some CV's over at Norway to, don't know how many or wich type :|

[kinghk]

lol liked the "dive IFV" :lol:

we have some CV's over at Norway to, don't know how many or wich type :|

104 CV9030N

[OldRecon]

lol liked the "dive IFV" :lol:

we have some CV's over at Norway to, don't know how many or wich type :|

104 CV9030N

In my days riding in the wagon with the NM-135 boys were penal duty on exercises for doing badly on OP's. rofl

OP duty and foot recon much better.

[stuntman]

VERY NICEhttp://www.plasticwarfare.com/articles/strf90/images/9056/PA050001.jpg
Now hehttp://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m2bradley.jpg
has someone to play with!

The american ***** seems to be smaller than the swedish one.
LOL haha
yeah but our balls are bigger just check out the girth on the bradly!
LOL

[A Soldier]

My dad drives a Saab it is a nice car ;)
My brother had a Volvo but he wrecked it :bash:
I had a Swedish girlfriend and I wrecked her ;)

[soma]

CV90 dive version

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/amfibisk-90(3).JPG

For real??

[Stavka]

I had a Swedish girlfriend and I wrecked her ;)

ROFL! Harrumph harrumph! rofl

[Guttorm]

CV90 dive version

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/amfibisk-90(3).JPG

For real??

Yes, they really did **** up.
But it happens to everyone.

[RomanS]

when you play hockey, at least move your armor off the ice!!!