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Telnyashka
12-30-2005, 02:53 PM
I am wondering, I remember reading USA pays something like $180,000 per person in it's military? How does this compare with other nations in NATO and other world powers? Any help would be greatfully appreciated.

Creeper
12-30-2005, 03:19 PM
$180,000 ??? Where did you read that? Perhaps $18,000.00 is more accurate, and that is not nearly enough !

saltandpepper
12-30-2005, 03:53 PM
the answer is: Not enough.

DnA
12-30-2005, 04:06 PM
180,000 a year, haha I wish we got paid that much in the Military.

Anyways, what you get paid depends on your rank, if you get spec pay, jump pay, etc


Also, google is your friend.
Enlisted Base Pay
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/pay/bl06enlbasepay.htm

Warrent Officecr Base Pay
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/pay/bl06warbasepay.htm

Comissioned Officer Base Pay
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/pay/bl06offbasepay.htm

Moledet
12-30-2005, 04:14 PM
A combat soldier in the IDF earns about 200$ per month, which is almost nothing (25% of the minimum salary).

JKD
12-30-2005, 04:16 PM
Does he mean salary or how much they spend on each soldier for things like training, equipment, benefits, etc. ?

ed316
12-30-2005, 04:19 PM
Total$437.111 Billion
Operations and maintenance $174.081 Bil.
Military Personnel $113.576 Bil.
Procurement $76.217 Bil.
Research & Development $60.756 Bil.
Military Construction $6.310 Bil.

This is a 2004 budget, should give you an Idea.

The United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) military budget is larger than the military budgets of the next twenty biggest spenders combined, and six times larger than China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China)'s,

Telnyashka
12-30-2005, 04:22 PM
Does he mean salary or how much they spend on each soldier for things like training, equipment, benefits, etc. ?
The latter one. You guys forgot to read mine more carefully. I did not say pay, I said how much does the US Army pay for each soldier, how much alltogether with salary, training, equipment, etc. does it cost the US Army to field one soldier?

Telnyashka
12-30-2005, 04:34 PM
Total$437.111 Billion
Operations and maintenance $174.081 Bil.
Military Personnel $113.576 Bil.
Procurement $76.217 Bil.
Research & Development $60.756 Bil.
Military Construction $6.310 Bil.

This is a 2004 budget, should give you an Idea.

The United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) military budget is larger than the military budgets of the next twenty biggest spenders combined, and six times larger than China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China)'s,

Thank you, now does anyone have any similar data on spending on personnel and maintenance for other nations?

ed316
12-30-2005, 04:35 PM
Thank you, now does anyone have any similar data on spending on personnel and maintenance for other nations?

like what country?

nitrogen
12-30-2005, 04:37 PM
Well you can do an approximate count

Total budget 2004 = $437.111 Billion
Active troops (wikipedia) = 1,470,000

$437111000000 /1470000 = 297,354 $ per grunt

not pretty accurate though and only fielded troops would have much higher cost.

Moledet
12-30-2005, 05:04 PM
Well you can do an approximate count

Total budget 2004 = $437.111 Billion
Active troops (wikipedia) = 1,470,000

$437111000000 /1470000 = 297,354 $ per grunt

not pretty accurate though and only fielded troops would have much higher cost.
Not accurate at all, there aren't 1,470,000 grunts in the US military, that's the overall number of soldiers. There are pilots and SF that are very expensive to train while there are non combat soldiers that do not cost much money.

The IAF spends one million dollar per flight cadet, as for other soldiers I have no clue.

nitrogen
12-30-2005, 05:10 PM
Not accurate at all, there aren't 1,470,000 grunts in the US military, that's the overall number of soldiers. There are pilots and SF that are very expensive to train while there are non combat soldiers that do not cost much money.

I meant the overall number with "grunts". U can see it as an avarage number of all us mil personel.

Telnyashka
12-30-2005, 05:20 PM
like what country?

rest of NATO, China, Russia, India. as much info on any coutnry as I can muster

ed316
12-30-2005, 05:24 PM
rest of NATO, China, Russia, India. as much info on any coutnry as I can muster


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Apathy
12-30-2005, 06:09 PM
Off-Topic Question: How many years do you have to serve before you are qualified to be a Staff Sergeant?

Macs.
12-30-2005, 07:28 PM
Wow, I didn't know Canadas Military budget was THAT low.

n'hum3
12-30-2005, 07:38 PM
Good link to remember http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
Note the drop down menu to select a country or location.

Yeoman
12-30-2005, 09:03 PM
Wow, I didn't know Canadas Military budget was THAT low.

heck yes!
I know it was around 30,000 to train me apparently (when you put into the equation food, paying for the rounds I shot, and uhhh.....I think all my kit I was issued as well?) so to take a stab at it, somewhere around there for a regular infantry grunt.
I know it's in the six digits to train a squirel.
Greg

cylexx75
12-30-2005, 09:26 PM
no solider in any army is paid enough in my eyes....

Omaha
12-30-2005, 09:54 PM
Well when you say "pay" you can't just say will he gets X amount of dollars in X amount of time.

You have to factor in benefits. You get free medical for the rest of your life, and your family. You are feed/clothed/housed and you get to keep what ever is shot at you if you can catch it.

Now I think they should double or triple the salary for any active duty military person, with an ass load of hazard pay for troops in theater. But that's just me.

Apathy
12-30-2005, 10:17 PM
Well when you say "pay" you can't just say will he gets X amount of dollars in X amount of time.

You have to factor in benefits. You get free medical for the rest of your life, and your family. You are feed/clothed/housed and you get to keep what ever is shot at you if you can catch it.

Now I think they should double or triple the salary for any active duty military person, with an ass load of hazard pay for troops in theater. But that's just me.

I second that.

Kekkonen
12-30-2005, 10:24 PM
How does this compare with other nations

Saw on the news today that Finnish conscripts will get €8 a day from next year which is enough to buy 2 packages of cigarettes. As a comparison my father told me that when he was in 1955 they got 20 penni a day, (a package of cigarettes costed 40 penni).

Telnyashka
12-30-2005, 10:48 PM
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I am sorry I mean't information on not just military budgets, but on per soldier. How much are these nations paying for personnel pay, maintenance and training alltogether.

mi35d
12-31-2005, 12:12 AM
Staff SGT: Depends on the branch.

wiking
12-31-2005, 04:48 AM
Atleast it's better than in the old days.

Back in the Napoleonic war a British soldier was payed something like a shilling a day, and that is a bloody good pay for that time. But everything was deducted from their pay, food, clothing, blackball to polish shoes, pipeclay to color the leather white, and a little to the army hospital.

They ended on about 7 7s 7d, but from that any equipment lost, broken, damaged or worn out had to be payed for when not lost due to enemy action. And the "three sevens" was allready less than half what they made on paper!

Even though soldiers don't make much, they have less expences (so long as they aren't married and have kids) they receive free food, housing, chlothing but that still isn't a good reason to pay little.

But what is the addition to the pay for being in a combat zone?

Flyboy
12-31-2005, 05:30 AM
Damn, the last time I was deployed was last year. It's Hazardous Duty Pay, Iniment(sp) Danger Pay, and you also get tax free. You also recieve $3.50 a day for per diem. You also recieve I'm not sure if many people know this, but the only exclusion is federal taxes. They take Medicare/aid and Social Security.

Flyboy
12-31-2005, 05:30 AM
yeah, some deployed people correct me, I didn't know we can't edit our messages

hillbillyinheart
12-31-2005, 07:01 AM
Working part time as reservist I make ~25,000 CND
Now I diddn't shoot much on basic, But my 5 years in a racked up a big bill. Last Year 20K just in 762 Live ammo, 10-15 84mm, 20 61mm. Dont know how many blanks.

nitrogen
12-31-2005, 08:40 AM
As an enlisted in sweden I got about 8 $ a day. that is less money than the welfare people get... really sucks

Apathy
12-31-2005, 09:43 AM
Staff SGT: Depends on the branch.

Marines.

I got another. Let's say I graduate college and then join the Marines. What rank would I be?

wiking
12-31-2005, 09:58 AM
Marines.

I got another. Let's say I graduate college and then join the Marines. What rank would I be?

College degree means you're eligeble for Officer Candidate School.

Apathy
12-31-2005, 10:19 AM
College degree means you're eligeble for Officer Candidate School.

What if I just want to go Enlisted?

wiking
12-31-2005, 10:38 AM
What if I just want to go Enlisted?

You should ask someone who knows, but i assume that if you want to be a grunt with a college degree you can, but with a college degree you can become an officer.

usa320
12-31-2005, 01:16 PM
i know a few guys in the marines... i reckon they went in enlisted as Pvt. and if they got someone else to sign up they went in as Pfc.

Telnyashka
12-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Ok I need the following info. Any country will do, ANY country you have info will help me a lot.

I need the Procurement and R&D or the Operations & Maintenance costs for any country. Remember not total military budget, but how much of that is allocated for what. Either of the two would be fine since I can do the math.

Example above with USA already given. However you dont have to give ALL of that info. Either Procurement and R&D(added together or both seperate) or O&M. It would help a lot.

Hemaworstje
01-02-2006, 04:47 PM
How about getting an education first , and then join the military, if you are a triggerguy you don't make much bucks, get into the brass, use the brain.

Alphonse
01-02-2006, 05:02 PM
You should ask someone who knows, but i assume that if you want to be a grunt with a college degree you can, but with a college degree you can become an officer.
Just because you have a college degree, doesn't mean you have what it takes to be an officer.

If you aren't a leader, don't become an officer.

Apathy
01-02-2006, 05:10 PM
Just because you have a college degree, doesn't mean you have what it takes to be an officer.

If you aren't a leader, don't become an officer.

I know. That's why im not becoming one.

wiking
01-02-2006, 06:33 PM
Just because you have a college degree, doesn't mean you have what it takes to be an officer.

If you aren't a leader, don't become an officer.

No, but with a college degree you have the option of going to OCS, atleast that's how i believe it is and what i meant.

Uncle Sam
01-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Marines.

I got another. Let's say I graduate college and then join the Marines. What rank would I be?

Probably an E-3 Lance Corporal.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/l/bladvrank.htm


But I would talk to a Recruiter just to be on the safe side...instead of asking here.

oregongrunt
01-03-2006, 01:37 AM
I am wondering, I remember reading USA pays something like $180,000 per person in it's military? How does this compare with other nations in NATO and other world powers? Any help would be greatfully appreciated.
$180,000? I've been getting cheated all this time!