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He219
02-18-2004, 06:02 AM
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General Peter Pace, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs
Joint Chiefs bypassed in decision to disband Iraqi army (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraq_us_army_pace)


WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Joint Chiefs of Staff were not consulted on the US decision to disband the Iraqi army shortly after the end of major combat operations in Iraq (news - web sites) last May, General Peter Pace, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said.

Pace said Paul Bremer, the head of the coalition provisional authority in Baghdad, ordered the army disbanded on his own authority.

"Those of us in Washington did not second guess those who were on point," he said at a question and answer session here at the Council on Foreign Relations. "We were not asked for a recommendation, or for advice."

Pace said he did not know what input Bremer received from military officials in the Iraq theater, but it was never specifically addressed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Some critics contend that disbanding the army helped fuel the post war insurgency, and that the country could have been stabilized more effectively had the army been called back to duty.

The US military is now building a new army and other indigenous security forces to fight off insurgents.

A coordinated attack on an Iraqi police station and Civil Defence Corps post in Fallujah Monday left 23 policemen dead.

Pace said he did not know who was behind the attack, but he predicted more "terrorist" violence as the handover of sovereignty to Iraqis gets nearer.

"We believe the nexus between those who are indigenous Iraqis, and those who have been brought in from outside country has changed," he said. "More and more people are coming in from outside, and there are fewer and fewer who are Iraqis themselves."

I've always held the belief that the institution of the Iraqi Army should have been maintained, restructured nonetheless, but maintained to restore general order within Iraqi society instead of formulating a new indigenous force while opening a vacum for insurgents to fill. These disbanded solders have become an obvious threat and their intimate knowledge of weapons stores, terrain and populus could have been a tremendous asset in restoring order at the earliest opportunity. Typical that it was a political decision and not one done by military logic ...
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Sixgun Symphony
02-18-2004, 02:59 PM
I've always held the belief that the institution of the Iraqi Army should have been maintained, restructured nonetheless, but maintained to restore general order within Iraqi society instead of formulating a new indigenous force while opening a vacum for insurgents to fill. These disbanded solders have become an obvious threat and their intimate knowledge of weapons stores, terrain and populus could have been a tremendous asset in restoring order at the earliest opportunity. Typical that it was a political decision and not one done by military logic ...
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I am inclined to agree.

But at the same time, I think it may be a good idea to just let Iraq split up. Let the Kurds have Kurdistan, let the Shiites carve out their own state in the east. The country of "Iraq" will then be alot smaller and I doubt that any future despots can be so troublesome as Saddam Hussien.

WARPIG
02-18-2004, 03:11 PM
Typical and not surprising. The Pentegon of today is staffed by the former Jr. military leadership that fought during the Vietnam War. Watching civilians call the shots from Washington while their men died of poor decision making, shaped the more military driven Pentegon of the very near past and present. Sec. Rumsfeld was also a Jr. exec in the Pentagon at that time and should have been more aware of the political posturing that would go on. A military driven decision would have likely delegated that call to those in the field. Politians or civilian delegates are likely to try and make decisions on their own.