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Geezah
01-05-2006, 10:26 AM
Wednesday, January 4: A Hemel Hempstead man who fired a BB gun as he struggled with police at Jarman Park was jailed for 21 months.

Adam Cole, aged 24, who had been drinking vodka and lager, told a bystander 'watch this' and pointed the Russian-made A101 ball bearing pistol at the two officers, PC Neil Ellingham and PC Andrew Paveley.

The officers struggled with Cole and the gun went off, St Albans crown court heard yesterday (Tuesday). Nobody was hurt.

Cole of Springfield Road, Hemel Hempstead appeared for sentence having pleaded guilty to two counts of possessing a firearm with intent and one of possessing ball bearings with intent on August 26 last year.

Link (http://www.hemelhempsteadtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=841&ArticleID=1301521)

21mths, this turd will be out in about 15?????

I trully believe that if the guys on the front line were armed, things like this would not happen.

CMN
01-05-2006, 10:43 AM
Why would it not happen?

Why would it stop people getting wrecked and taking leave of their senses?

Geezah
01-05-2006, 10:53 AM
Why would it not happen?

Why would it stop people getting wrecked and taking leave of their senses?

The guy got a little Dutch courage in him and thought it would be flash to point a firearm at the Police(knowing full well, chances are real high they are unarmed), now do you think he would be just as brave with his ball bearing firearm(?), if he knew there's a good chance he could be looking down the barrel of a Glock???

CMN
01-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Granted, he probably wouldn't have been so brave.

But what if he had?

Then another guy gets waxed for a 'toy' gun, and two more officers are suspended from duty for six or god knows how many months whilst a 'full enquiry' is carried out.

What are unarmed policeman doing tackling an 'armed' assailant anyhow? ARUs are there for just this reason.

Perhaps they knew some details that we don't??

Gav
01-05-2006, 05:11 PM
[quote=CMN]Granted, he probably wouldn't have been so brave.

But what if he had?

Then another guy gets waxed for a 'toy' gun, and two more officers are suspended from duty for six or god knows how many months whilst a 'full enquiry' is carried out.:bash:

Irrelevant toy or not dont point the f@#$ing thing at anyone. you do and you suffer the concequences. And if they do my guess is they are already Brain Dead so just speed up the process.

unarmed Police is insane and a death sentence for those trying to do thier job.

CMN
01-05-2006, 07:39 PM
...and so your opinion goes.

I will become a full advocate of firearms for the people in the UK should the police force become armed throughout.

Createdeemcee
01-06-2006, 12:15 PM
I think in these modern days and times all nations should arm their police, and as for not having the right to bear arms espescially a BB gun. I am in Awe! That means roller skates are outlawed in the UK unless they make them there without ball berings!

CMN
01-06-2006, 01:15 PM
and as for not having the right to bear arms espescially a BB gun. I am in Awe! That means roller skates are outlawed in the UK unless they make them there without ball berings!

What?

How did you go from BB gun to Roller Skates?

Createdeemcee
01-09-2006, 03:42 PM
DMF there are ball berrings in roller skates, pay attention to the detail of the article and possessions that the suspect was caught with and yu will see. Sorry I thought you would be able to handle someting like that.

:bash:

gaz
01-09-2006, 03:59 PM
DMF there are ball berrings in roller skates, pay attention to the detail of the article and possessions that the suspect was caught with and yu will see. Sorry I thought you would be able to handle someting like that.

:bash:

Do roller skates fire them out at potentially harmful velocities? I'm just curious, maybe rollerskates in the States are different to those in the UK.

Or you could be talking cr*p.

Createdeemcee
01-10-2006, 03:14 PM
No Sir,

Roller skates do not fire them out, but point being this guy was given an extra charge for possession of ball berings, so if you had roller skates you would still be in possession of ball berings. Making it a crime in the uk to have roller skates. Not being dumb thats just the nature of this guys crime.

:roll:

gaz
01-10-2006, 07:29 PM
He was a drunken idiot in a public place carrying an air pistol which wasnt covered(Which is against the law in it's self), the ball-bearings were to be as ammunition of the pistol, hence the charge of possesion with intent.

When the average person is wearing rollerskates in public there is no intent to use the ball-bearings from them as ammunition for an air pistol.

To go back a little bit, earlier on you said "and as for not having the right to bear arms espescially a BB gun. I am in Awe!". In the States you of course have the right to bear arms but would the outcome have been any different? If a drunken idiot waved an air pistol at a police officer in a public place he'd have still have been arrested wouldn't he?

Geezah
01-11-2006, 09:24 AM
In the States you of course have the right to bear arms but would the outcome have been any different? If a drunken idiot waved an air pistol at a police officer in a public place he'd have still have been arrested wouldn't he?

Chances are very high he would have been shot for his trouble.