New Rifle for German State Police SF

[2RHPZ]

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New Rifle for German State Police SF


A South African company is developing a new carbine, a type of assault rifle, for an undisclosed German state police special forces unit. Truvelo Manufacturing, better known for its highly accurate sniper rifles and traffic law enforcement cameras, has been asked to produce a replacement for the Heckler & Koch MP5 machine pistol.

The new weapon, which has yet to be named, is being prototyped in 5.56 mm with a 9-inch (23 cm) barrel. The design borrowed from and improved upon a number of existing designs, said Truvelo managing director Joe Gebert. "It is not always necessary to reinvent the wheel. If it is there, use it. Our approach is to integrate our own ideas into existing weapons and better them."

Gebert said the weapon would be part of a family of weapons in the standard North Atlantic Treaty Organization caliber (5.56 mm x 45). Other than the carbine, there would be an assault rifle with a standard 15-inch barrel and a support weapon with a heavy 22-inch barrel and bipod.

Link (http://www.special-operations-technology.com/article.cfm?DocID=1137)

[RS_Leo1A5]

Sounds strange - so far German SEKs have used SIG and H&K assault rifles when SMGs didn't do the job.

[caleb]

SEK Nürnberg uses Steyer AUG, for example.
I really don't understand, why there is need for the developement of a new assault rifle, since there are a sh!tload of good solutions available on the market and a whole new developement project means extraordinary costs. (Paid by the German tax-payer)

Kinda strange that such small units get their very own weapon-system. But as the article said "design borrowed from and improved upon a number of existing designs" basically means to me, that an existing weapon platform is just being modified. I don't understand why they wouldn't choose the HK 416 for example, it's there and ready to kick ass and probably will cost the same, or even less, since they have to pay for whole developement project, not only the rifles themself.

I'm looking forward to the result, though.

[JoaMei]

SEK Nürnberg uses Steyer AUG, for example.
I really don't understand, why there is need for the developement of a new assault rifle, since there are a sh!tload of good solutions available on the market and a whole new developement project means extraordinary costs. (Paid by the German tax-payer)

Kinda strange that such small units get their very own weapon-system. But as the article said "design borrowed from and improved upon a number of existing designs" basically means to me, that an existing weapon platform is just being modified. I don't understand why they wouldn't choose the HK 416 for example, it's there and ready to kick ass and probably will cost the same, or even less, since they have to pay for whole developement project, not only the rifles themself.

I'm looking forward to the result, though.

Hey, you are only real special if no other unit has the same gear as you.
rofl

[Freibier]

I heard that several SEKs were testing the Truvelo Neostead shotgun but never heard anything about that new rifle

[theholeinthedonut]

i rather tend to view the article with a critical eye!

1st It seems highly improbable to me that any german state police force SEK has enough funding to have their own weapon developed .

2nd As some of you allready pointed out, there are so many good designs around, specially in germany, it would be like taking owls to Athens.

Anyway i really think it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Best regards
Tom

[crinkler]

LMAO

Any how this is the weapon they are talking about.

Calibre: 5,56NATO and 7,62x39
Weight empty: 4 kg
Barrel length: 9" for 5,56NATO and 12" for 7,62x39
Lenght - stock folded: 530 mm
Lenght - stock open: 790 mm
Width 40 mm
Sights Aimpoint COMP ML2
Magazines: (2) 30 Rounds each
Cleaning kit: standard
Flash hider: standard
Foldable stock: standard
Rate of fire: 650 rpm

[Doomsayer]

pff that is just a Galil dressed up in plastic

[Rictor]

Why in God's name do they need a new one? What, aren't the MP5, P90, G36C, M4 and all the others enough to choose from? What makes this rifle any different or better than the myriad of weapons already available to police special forces?

[Shadow]

Why in God's name do they need a new one? What, aren't the MP5, P90, G36C, M4 and all the others enough to choose from? What makes this rifle any different or better than the myriad of weapons already available to police special forces?

Maybe they needed something ugly...

[JoaMei]

Maybe they needed something ugly...

Or something cheap, if they arent paying anything for development and this is meant as advertising by the company.

[Shadow]

Or something cheap, if they arent paying anything for development and this is meant as advertising by the company.

Maybe they found out that Macs Mom can't fire bullets...
She would embody both attributes... ;)

[tsuri]

Well undisclosured State Police SF.. that must mean GSG9.

ZUZ is also State(?) but I doubt they get to pick this.

SEK is not State Police, so there is not much left...

[Count Lippe]

Well undisclosured State Police SF.. that must mean GSG9.

ZUZ is also State(?) but I doubt they get to pick this.

SEK is not State Police, so there is not much left...

It depends on how you define state... NRW would be a state too.p-)

[Freibier]

Forget it, the story is BS

[Little J]

Bit of a freaky looking thing aint it :/

Also cant see the point, as already said, alot of very good weapons already on the market...

[Count Lippe]

Forget it, the story is BS

x2
I can't see how this gun does a better job than the G36 family.
That's just a publicity stunt for the SA manufacturer...:roll:

[RS_Leo1A5]

Well undisclosured State Police SF.. that must mean GSG9.

ZUZ is also State(?) but I doubt they get to pick this.

SEK is not State Police, so there is not much left...
I think you fell for a mistranslation (state = Staat)!
GSG9 belongs to the Bundespolizei (Federal Police, formerly Bundesgrenzschutz, Federal Border Guard).
Every German state (= Bundesland) has its Landespolizei (state police) - each with SEK and MEK special units.