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Lazarou
01-06-2006, 12:37 PM
MiG E-8 (aka Ye-8 because of the ****unciation of the Russian letter "E") front-line interceptor was designed as a prototype for next generation of MiG fighters. The design stage of the project started in 1960 from the basis of a greatly redesigned MiG-21PF.
Most prominent new features were redesigned front part of the airplane with Eurofighter-style jet intake, canard foreplanes and redesigned rear part of the fuselage to accomodate new engine. There was great number of other features that were different from MiG-21PF -from new ejection seat and canopy to modified rudder and new fin under the rear part of the fuselage.
Two prototypes (Ye-8/1 and Ye-8/2) were built in 1962. These prototypes differed in details from each other. The Ye-8/1 was lost during testing due to engine malfunction.
The Ye-8 project was cancelled for an unknown reason in 1963, but it served as testbed for testing new technologies for later generation of Fishbeds and also for MiG-23 Flogger.

Click here (http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/e8_e.htm) to read more.

http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82_1.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82_4.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e8.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82_2.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e8_2.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82_3.jpg
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/flip-around/military-aircraft/ye8_2.jpg
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e8_3.gif
http://mil.jschina.com.cn/afwing/intro/mig21/e8-2.jpg

Atlantic Friend
01-06-2006, 12:38 PM
The lovechild of the MiG-21 and the Typhoon...

CSAR
01-06-2006, 12:47 PM
The lovechild of the MiG-21 and the Typhoon...

Heh, I was just about to say the same. :)

TheJackal
01-06-2006, 12:53 PM
Heh, I was just about to say the same. :)

Nu-uh you lie

BlitzCod
01-06-2006, 01:36 PM
That last pic, it looks so much like Typhoon :-)

mi35d
01-06-2006, 01:41 PM
Could have also been taken from the F-107 program. (Will find a pic later...)

ekranoplan
01-06-2006, 02:41 PM
Really nice post Lazarou. I just love threads which actually educate folks around here... Great! :hug:

camerashy
01-06-2006, 04:17 PM
Fantastic photos, I've never heard of this airframe before. Great find!

eucalyptus
01-06-2006, 04:19 PM
Air intakes to the sides, and you got your self a gripen (almost)

CRTS27
01-06-2006, 04:30 PM
Air intakes to the sides, and you got your self a gripen (almost)

:bash:
This was build thirty years before Grippen! Has a tail, Grippen not. And other details.

CRTS27
01-06-2006, 04:31 PM
Could have also been taken from the F-107 program. (Will find a pic later...)

:bash: F-107 had the air intake on top! And it was a swept wing not Delta!

ond26
01-06-2006, 04:33 PM
Air intakes to the sides, and you got your self a gripen (almost)
http://www.testpilot.ru/russia/mikoyan/e/8/images/e82_2.jpg
http://www.afbcaslav.cz/med/foto/tech/jas39/jas39c03.jpg

eucalyptus
01-06-2006, 04:36 PM
:bash:
This was build thirty years before Grippen! Has a tail, Grippen not. And other details.
O´rly? You don´t see any similarity at all concerning design?

Constantin
01-06-2006, 05:54 PM
look like EF-2000

Angrykirill
01-06-2006, 06:03 PM
This is what China used for J-10 copy, together with LAVI?

nullterm
01-06-2006, 06:07 PM
It looks like a mini-Valkyrie.

http://www.geocities.com/spacetransport/images/_xb70_overhead.jpg

jmatucd
01-06-2006, 09:45 PM
It looks like a mini-Valkyrie.

http://www.geocities.com/spacetransport/images/_xb70_overhead.jpg

beat me to it!

GazB
01-07-2006, 01:58 AM
What is the big deal?

They found that nose mounted air intake restricted the size of the radar the Mig-21 could use so they created an experimental aircraft to test a few technologies. The Soviets had several aircraft that predate the Mig-21 that had chin mounted air intakes, they also had previous experience with canard foreplanes as well.

The main reason it was cancelled was because Mig-21s didn't need big powerful radars. They are point defence fighters that took off and flew less than 200km and engaged enemy bomber aircraft and fighters or strike aircraft. They were vectored to their targets via hundreds of ground radar installations. The replacement for the Mig-21 was the Mig-23 which had a longer range and a much better radar with side mounted air intakes and swing wings for rough field performance and high speed at low and high altitudes.

mi35d
01-07-2006, 04:28 AM
Uh, newbie? Did I say something to offend you? NO. So quit with the dumbass emoticons. :bash:

:bash: F-107 had the air intake on top! And it was a swept wing not Delta!

No ****. NEITHER aircraft was "delta winged" so what's your point???

I was speaking of a particular point - "Most prominent new features were redesigned front part of the airplane with Eurofighter-style jet intake"

Take a look at the intake on the experimental Mig and then take a look at the intake on the F-107. My point is still valid. Instead of creating a whole new airframe they could have possibly adapted the technology to an already existing aircraft.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/annex/an16.htm

Levan
01-07-2006, 04:41 AM
this plane looks exactly like an experimental english fighter built evetualy in the same period, I dont remember the name but they look very identical.

Uninen
01-07-2006, 06:48 AM
If anything with the intakes and so on, this aircraft remainds of F-16, now which one was first? p-)

Really its sad that you ignorant people always try to dismiss Russian thigs especially airplanes as some sort of rip offs from American things, when the fact is only proven case so far is the TU-4 (afaik) which was reverse enginered B-29.. the rest, products of wild childish imaginations. (the claims)

Futhermore if you block out the engine exhaust pipe, radar dome and the intake and forward landing gear what you got left to see is MiG-21 PF of which this aircraft was a purpose build evolution and it is not a copy of anything, the MiG-21 itself actually being the most copied and also most widely used and build mach 2 capable aircraft ever and as such it will go in to the books in history. Nothing and never being able to surpass it.

CRTS27
01-07-2006, 03:05 PM
Uh, newbie? Did I say something to offend you? NO. So quit with the dumbass emoticons. :bash:

:bash: F-107 had the air intake on top! And it was a swept wing not Delta!

No ****. NEITHER aircraft was "delta winged" so what's your point???

I was speaking of a particular point - "Most prominent new features were redesigned front part of the airplane with Eurofighter-style jet intake"

Take a look at the intake on the experimental Mig and then take a look at the intake on the F-107. My point is still valid. Instead of creating a whole new airframe they could have possibly adapted the technology to an already existing aircraft.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/annex/an16.htm

1. I am not a "newbie" Just a new nickname.
2. The Mig-21 IS Delta with tail!
3. Russians are not stupid they had and still have great sientists. Stop
Yelling "Stollen" & "Copied"
:)

mi35d
01-08-2006, 04:03 AM
"Delta Wing" means a pure delta shape - No rear stabilizers. Take a look at an F-102 or F-106. These are "Delta" winged aircraft. Neither the F-107 or Mig variant would be considered "Delta winged".

Newbie refers to your status on the boards. 20 posts would make you a newbie. No offense intended.

BTW, I didn't yell, scream or shout, "stolen", nor did I denigrate Russian scientists. Yet, with the F-107's design several years ahead of the test MIG, the potential for it to be a copy is possible. This happens - form follows function. For example, swept wing designs can trace their heritage back to early German designs, right? Both the US and Russians used these designs as the basis for future aircraft - this doesn't effect the skill of our scientists; its just relates research that was done previously.

Baron Harkonnen
01-08-2006, 04:17 AM
----Air intakes to the sides, and you got your self a gripen ...

Drakken ))))

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2166/mig2102028cn.jpg

Uninen
01-08-2006, 11:36 AM
It was a aerodynamics testbed for Tu-144.