For the tank fans - some Type 90 shots

[Dave the Dawg]

Some photos of the Japanese Type 90 main battle tank, courtesy of the Japan Ground Self Defense Forces' 7th Division, based in Hokkaido.

Show-and-tell for the civilians:
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/soutaikinenn_15/shizyou_2.jpghttp://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/soutaikinenn_15/soubihin.jpg

On parade:
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/soutaikinenn_15/img_0044.jpghttp://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/soutaikinenn_15/img_0039.jpg

The division's 72nd Tank Regiment in the snow:
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/nenntou/image1.jpg

And the division's 71st Tank Regiment in the snow:
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/nenntou/image2.jpg

72nd Tank Regiment on the range:
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/h14ne7dtksyageki12.jpg
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/h14ne7dtksyageki03.jpg
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/h14ne7dtksyageki05.jpg
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/h14ne7dtksyageki08.jpg
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/7d_gazou.jpg
http://www.nae.jgsdf.go.jp/7d/gazou/tk_kyougikai/7d_gazou_3.jpg

[Undo]

Nice. Is this a Leo variant or a native design? I don't know much about JSDF.

[Dave the Dawg]

Japanese design. A very good tank, but expensive. Japanese law won't allow the export of weapons, so all the costs of developing the tank are swallowed up in the few hundred tanks Japan buys for its own use.

[Operation Ivy]

Awsome woot ...i must say it looks like a Leo2 :D

[341st panzergrenadier]

the type 90 was designed by both German and Japanese engineers thats why it looks like a Leo2 and yes a very good tank indeed. Last i heard it won 3rd place in the enternational tank comp.

[serbian boy]

Man, Japan is a sweet country, always admired there military and traditions! :lol:
They should get rid of that american developed-pansy ass constitution! :P
I watched on tv in Japanese military academy they carry briefcases instead of rifles because the Japanese constitution bans militarism!
WTF! It's a military academy! DUH!

[Marmot1]

Man, Japan is a sweet country, always admired there military and traditions! :lol:
They should get rid of that american developed-pansy ass constitution! :P
I watched on tv in Japanese military academy they carry briefcases instead of rifles because the Japanese constitution bans militarism!
WTF! It's a military academy! DUH!

Well maybe it is better if militarism is banned since last time when it was not banned but glorified...

[serbian boy]

Yeah but you don't have that military feel walking around with suitcases, it kinda looks gay! :)

[duck]

Hokkaido is the only part of Japan where nature permits large-scale armored movement. The other Islands, Honshu,Shikoku and Kyushu are too mountanous for any tank operations. That's why Japan has always invested more in the Air Force and Navy to stop any invader before they can reach the "Motherland". AEGIS-class destroyers and the F-15/16-based Japanese fighter bomber planes should be more than enough to send a clear message to all neighbouring countries.

The US Air Force and Navy bases (one carrier battle group) on Honshu and the Marine contingent on Okinawa are further assurances Japan will not be attacked CONVENTIONALLY. However, the issue of a Japanese nuclear deterrent is becoming more and more relevant and will be a major problem regarding the future of the entire region.

[Vintendo]

I know the Type 90 also has the Leo2 gun. I'm not sure if they have anything else in common. I guess the old Axis allies are still helping each other out. ;) Heck, even the Japanese camo looks like German Flecktarn.

As for their constitution, they are now taking baby steps in expanding it. The Iraq deployment is a very big deal to them. Also some Japanese want to expand Japan's military capabilities due to the growing power of China and the continuing threat from North Korea. America would also like Japan to take a larger part in Asia, which would free up U.S. troops for war on terror. The U.S. really pushed Japan to deploy troops to Iraq.

[serbian boy]

Yeah and Japans wants the U.S. to get the hell out! Which is perfectly understandable considering the U.S. dropped 2 atomic bombs on them! :P :(

[AFG]

Yeah and Japans wants the U.S. to get the hell out! Which is perfectly understandable considering the U.S. dropped 2 atomic bombs on them! :P :(

.... :bash:

[stuntman]

Yeah and Japans wants the U.S. to get the hell out! Which is perfectly understandable considering the U.S. dropped 2 atomic bombs on them! :P :(

I see serbiangirl is still sore about his milk factory!!
HAHAHA

[Tengu]

Yeah and Japans wants the U.S. to get the hell out! Which is perfectly understandable considering the U.S. dropped 2 atomic bombs on them! :P :(with good reason :bash:

ON TOPIC: sweet pics man, ty

[Uninen]

with good reason :bash:

Uhm, know what.. **** YOU!

Japanese didnt kill a single one American civilian, YOU KILLED MILLIONS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS. YOU EVEN PUT YOUR OWN CITIZENS OF JAPANESE ORGIN TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IN WHERE MANY DIED!

You just make me sick, if anybody had a just reason to A-Bomb anybody, it was Japan and Germany that had that.. As you American killed millions of civilians of those both nations..

[spoonman]

with good reason :bash:

Uhm, know what.. f*** YOU!

Japanese didnt kill a single one American civilian, YOU KILLED MILLIONS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS. YOU EVEN PUT YOUR OWN CITIZENS OF JAPANESE ORGIN TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IN WHERE MANY DIED!

You just make me sick, if anybody had a just reason to A-Bomb anybody, it was Japan and Germany that had that.. As you American killed millions of civilians of those both nations..

ahhh, speaking out of your ass is so refreshing.
lets see here:
british civilians were attacked and killed.
russian civilians were attacked and killed.
american civilians were attacked and killed.
german civilians were attacked and killed.
japanese civilians were attacked and killed.
chinese civilians were attacked and killed.
italian civilians were attacked and killed.

it was war, war is an ugly thing.

american civilians at pearl harbor.

ADAMS, John Civilian
ADAMS, Joseph Civilian
AKANA, James Lum Civilian
AKINA, August Civilian
AKITAMA, George Jay Civilian
ARAKAKI, Nancy Masako Civilian
CAABAY, Benugno Civilian
CARREIRA, John Civilian
CHONG, Ernest Civilian
CHONG, Patrick Kahamokupuni Civilian
ELDRED, Phillip Ward Civilian
FAUFATA, Matilda Kaliko Civilian
FOSTER, Rowena K. Civilian
FREEMAN, Theodore Civilian
GONSALVES, Emma Civilian
HARADA, Ai Civilian
HATATE, Kisa Civilian
HIGA, Masayoshi Fred Civilian
HIRASAKI, Jackie Yoneto Civilian
HIRASAKI, Jitsuo Civilian
HIRASAKI, Robert Yo****o Civilian
HIRASAKI, Shirley Kinue Civilian
HOOKANO, Kamiko Civilian
INAMINE, Paul S. Civilian
IZUMI, Robert Seiko Civilian
KAHOOKELE, David Civilian
KIDA, Kiichi Civilian
KIDA, Sutematsu Civilian
KIMURA, Tomaso Civilian
KIM, Soon Chip Civilian
KONDO, Edward Koichi Civilian
LA VERNE, Daniel Civilian
LOO, Tai Chung Civilian
LOPES, Peter Souza Civilian
LU****E, Paul Civilian
MACY, Thomas Samuel Civilian
MCCABE, Joseph Civilian
NAGAMINE, Masayoshi Civilian
ODA, Yaeko Civilian
OGAWA, Mataichi Civilian
OHTA, Hayako Civilian
OHTA, Jane Yuriko Civilian
OHTA, Kiyoko Civilian
OKADA, Kaichi Civilian
OKOGI, Riyozo Civilian
ORNELLAS, Barbara June Civilian
ORNELLAS, Gertrude Civilian
OSASHI, Frank Civilian
PAIVA, Manuel Civilian
PANG, Tuck Lee Civilian
SOMA, Richard Masaru Civilian
TACDERAN, Francisco Civilian
TAKEFUJI, James Takao Civilian
TOKUSATO, Yoshio Civilian
TYCE, Robert H. Civilian
UYEHARA, Kiho Civilian
UYENO, Hisao Civilian
WHITE, Alice Civilian
WILSON, Eunice Civilian



http://www.newbie.net/PearlHarbor/casualties.html

this is not the place to debate the ramifications and reasons for dropping the atomic bomb but you should do a little research before speaking **** twit.

[Tengu]

Uhm, know what.. f*** YOU!

Japanese didnt kill a single one American civilian, YOU KILLED MILLIONS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS. YOU EVEN PUT YOUR OWN CITIZENS OF JAPANESE ORGIN TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IN WHERE MANY DIED!

You just make me sick, if anybody had a just reason to A-Bomb anybody, it was Japan and Germany that had that.. As you American killed millions of civilians of those both nations..I'm not an american, i'm belgian (EUROPE). My family saw the holocaust, german V-1 bombs, nazi terror and the fighting on the front. Most of my family was in the resistance during the war and one was in the american army (he sufferd ALOT) so i grew up with tales of horrors (so your german and japanese a-bomb makes me sick). I'm happy to say they killed lots of germans.

And sure the japenese killed citizens at pearl. Civilian deaths is a part of war. Even here in belgium there was a town that was almost completely destroyed by allied bombs (they hit the wrong target), but they didn't complain to the allied force knowing the alternative.
And the germans and japanese were so kind to put their factories of war next to the houses of worker, not to mention the wood of the houses.

There was an alternative for the a-bombs; FAR more death by armed invasion because the japanese refused to surrender. They dropped it and with good reason.

[MolliG]

Uhm, know what.. f*** YOU!

Japanese didnt kill a single one American civilian, YOU KILLED MILLIONS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS. YOU EVEN PUT YOUR OWN CITIZENS OF JAPANESE ORGIN TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IN WHERE MANY DIED!

You just make me sick, if anybody had a just reason to A-Bomb anybody, it was Japan and Germany that had that.. As you American killed millions of civilians of those both nations..

It was the greatest and most destuctive war anyone had seen on earth. The A-Bomb brought a proper end to it. Aswell as showing us the possible horrors of nuclear war. The two A-Bomb drops were much better when compared to the millions of deaths and the vast destruction, both military and civilian, both Axis and Allied, that an invasion of Japan would create. For f***s sake man, it's history, learn from it, so it doesn't happen again, instead of slinging mud and other **** around. Some of you lot make these Forums a f***ing **** place to be... Happy? F***ing pricks...

Woah, the first time I've blew up at somebody... :|

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Back on topic, nice find Dave the Dawg! woot

A few of the pictures were in an issue of COMBAT, but they were really tiny, nice to seem them 'big' and detailed. :)

[Uninen]

:cantbeli:

spoonman,

Pearl Harbor was what you asked for, with sanctions against Japan and all..

[hank]

Man, Japan is a sweet country, always admired there military and traditions! :lol:
They should get rid of that american developed-pansy ass constitution! :P
I watched on tv in Japanese military academy they carry briefcases instead of rifles because the Japanese constitution bans militarism!
WTF! It's a military academy! DUH!

Wow, now that I read this I wonder what ever compelled me to call you an idiot. Pansy-ass constitution? Don't you remember the reason that we put it into place. It was a little party called WWII. At the party the Japanese army ran roughshod over most of Asia for a few years before we put an end to it. Pansy-ass? Try, self-preservation. numbnuts

hank

[Tengu]

:cantbeli:

spoonman,

Pearl Harbor was what you asked for, with sanctions against Japan and all.. rofl Because the peaceloving japs attacked french territories in asia

[spoonman]

:cantbeli:

spoonman,

Pearl Harbor was what you asked for, with sanctions against Japan and all..

you lack rational thought.

by your own admission it is okay to kill civilians since we put sanctions against the japanese.

thus it is okay for us to kill german and japanese civilians because germans were attacking our shipping and japan attacked pearl harbor.

sweet jesus, the public schools are really turning out some winners these days.

on topic: i love the type 90, i just wish it was more effective against godzilla.

[Vintendo]

:cantbeli:

spoonman,

Pearl Harbor was what you asked for, with sanctions against Japan and all..

What the hell? It's not like Japan was doing nothing and suddently USA decided to impose sanctions against it! Japan was the one that made the first move by invading other countries. Germany invaded Poland. They are the aggressors, not victims. Well, victims of their own aggression.
I don't know what country you are from but you obviously study a very different world history.

Anyways, Japan is VERY different today. They are one of America's best allies, and i think expanding their military is not a bad idea.

[Whistler]

with good reason :bash:

Uhm, know what.. f*** YOU!

Japanese didnt kill a single one American civilian, YOU KILLED MILLIONS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS. YOU EVEN PUT YOUR OWN CITIZENS OF JAPANESE ORGIN TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IN WHERE MANY DIED!

You just make me sick, if anybody had a just reason to A-Bomb anybody, it was Japan and Germany that had that.. As you American killed millions of civilians of those both nations..

Ya, Finland would have done a much better job solving the Pacific War without Atom bombs.

Oh, wait, sorry, they were too busy fighting alongside the Wehrmacht and SS. I forgot.

[serbian boy]

Hey **** you hank!! :bash:
You can't steal my word,numbnuts is my word mother-****er!!! :fork:
****ing Right Doggy!! ****ing Right!!!! :P

[SpikeATGM]

Anyways, Japan is VERY different today. They are one of America's best allies, and i think expanding their military is not a bad idea.

Not much different. Consider the fact that they have yet to formally apologise for what they did.

All the talks of expressing their remorse are just too superficial.

[M_S]

The japaneese killed about 20 million chineese people, they saw themself as superior humans (aisan nazis! rofl ), if the USA had lost the war then the japs would have killed many americans too.

The major reason to why the japs didn't kill many american civilians, because they did ****ing kill some, was the great distance to the US mainland.

If you want to know what the japs did with the chineese search for:
Unit 731 : http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/NanjingMassacre/NMU731.html

The Nanking slaughter
http://www.gotrain.com/dan/nanking1.htm

As for the nukes: I think the japs should thank the USA for nuking it twice instead of invading the country conventionally. The losses in both human lives and material destruction would have been many times bigger if an invasion was done.

[Marmot1]

:cantbeli:

spoonman,

Pearl Harbor was what you asked for, with sanctions against Japan and all..
Unien read history... Sanctions ware introduced to stop japan military expansion in pacific region, And as to civilians tell that to Nankin citizens that jap soldiers were cool guys, or to US,British,NZ,AUS and others who were captured by japs in the far east and were held in what we can sometimes compare to the soft version of concentration camps. Many died not to mention POW's... and planned military Invasion estimated ca.1Million loses only on US side. Not to mention probably couple of milions of Japs (those estimates were calculated after Okinawa and Iwo Jima where japs fighted to the last man...) So 200 000 of dead civilians was lesser of two evils also it was such a cold shower on jap heads that they realized there is no sense to fight longer.

Here is map with the plan of invasion
http://dws.ozone.pl/maps/50jap.jpg

[Vance]

Haha, Uninen is a dumbass