What Military group do you think is best Mar.Army.Navy.Air

[peanutt765465]

Does anyone have over 1800 military photos they can send me cuz i dont like right clicking on every picture

[Ratamacue]

This guy's pretty obviously a troll. Don't bother responding. Hood, delete/lock?

[JTFazz]

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/plzdie.gif

[GearGod]

What is the best Military organazation There is no real best all depends on which branch you like the most I like Army and not any other branches because I like the Armys 75th/101st/82nd, SF, and 1st SFOD DELTA

[Apogee]

I still say Peace Corps

[GearGod]

Just curious: Are you in the peace corps or Marines Corps?

[...]

You continue to out do yourself.

[Apogee]

Army

[96B]

A soldier, a sailor, an airman, and a marine get into an argument about
what armed force is the best. The argument gets so heated that they fail
to see an on-coming truck. They are hit and killed instantly. When they
arrive in heaven, they see Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates. So they
decide he can settle their argument. They walk up and ask him, "Saint
Peter, what Military Service is the best?" He thinks for a moment, then
says, "Well, I'm afraid I can't tell you. But I'll tell you what. I'll
talk to God next time I see Him, and I'll find out for you. In the mean
time, welcome to heaven." So they enter. Later, they see Saint Peter
while walking around, and they ask him about their question. But before
Saint Peter can say anything, trumpets blare, a bright light shines, and
a white dove flies out of the light with an envelope in it's beak. Saint
Peter says, "Ah, here's the answer from the Boss." He takes the letter,
and the dove flies off. He opens it, trumpets play, gold dust flies up,
and Saint Peter reads aloud:

FROM THE DESK OF GOD

TO: SOLDIERS, SAILORS, AIRMEN, AND MARINES

RE: WHICH SERVICE IS BEST.

Dear Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines,
All branches of the United States Armed forces are truly honorable.
One should take pride in serving with the Military. You are all
well-trained men, all capable of pulling off your job exceedingly well.
Therefore, there is no superior service.

Sincerely,
God, USMC (Ret.)

[96B]

In all seriousness, there really is no one best service. They all work together to defend our country and eliminate any threats around the world. In my book, anybody who joins our armed forces especially in a time of war is a friend of mine and I have the utmost respect from them all the way from an Air Force computer technician to a Delta operator. Our country would not be what it is today if it wasnt for our military and a great deal of gratitude should be given to our men and women in uniform.

[FallenAngel]

Amen to that Semper Fi!

.....but, if you HAD to pick a best, I'm sure the Marines have your vote (I already gave mine ;) )

Sure, the Army has nice toys, but you can do that with 5 times the federal budget :)

EDIT: for the God reference....I quote the Marines' Hymn

"If the Army and the Navy
ever look on heaven's scenes.
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States' Marines"

Semper Fi all.

[jokiemastah]

The regular marine grunt is probably a little better than his army counterpart, but Special Forces, Rangers, Delta and airborne kick butt. that is y i chose army.

[Apogee]

But theres one better than that. I think it goes something like:

"When the last Angel has fallen,
and evil has had its day,
You will find the gates of Heaven,
guarded by one lone Green Beret."

[96B]

Thats a great one too! In reality though the SF guy would recruit the local souls and train them in the arts of terminating evil and act as a force multiplier until the enemy had been overrun.

[Duke]

has anyone seen the latest USMC commerical with the saving private ryan music. i almost cried.
I swear i sent my own commerical text to my CO at the time that was about three years ago. My commerical had intense footage of Marines in action, like a Harrier coming off an amib ship, FR doing hydrographic recon, etc etc. Then at the end the footage fades to several Marines of different backgrounds-male/female, varying race and age, and Officer/Enlisted-standing in dress blue "A" uniforms. Then an older senior officer in the middle says, "We're looking for a few good... (Slowly turns his head to each side to look at his Marines)...Americans." Fade to black...
Cool commerical, right, never heard a word about it.

[FallenAngel]

The regular marine grunt is probably a little better than his army counterpart, but Special Forces, Rangers, Delta and airborne kick butt. that is y i chose army.

Very true on the grunt part. Infact some would argue your every-day marine "grunt" is just as capable as any Ranger (MEUs especially.)

Special Forces and Force Recon seem to be on a par capablility wise (from what I hear) although FR is much smaller and has a different mission- but the two are comparable in "eliteness".

The Marines don't have an "airborne" per say, but nearly all Marines are capable in the helicopter assault much like the 101st is.

Also, the Army just doesn't / can't/ won't do a large amphibious assault like the Marines can.

Delta isn't all army, although the majority of it is....so I would argue that isn't really part of the Army in reality (although on the books it might be.)

Also, the Marines do this with a FAR less of a budget (something like five times less.) and much older equipment. Ex. The Army is now getting M1A2s when the Marines were finally outfitted with M1A1s in like '95 I think. THe USMC has LAVs and AAVs leftover from over a decade ago and the Army is getting new M2A3/M3A3s and Strykers. Sure the USMC got new camo....but that's about all I can think of recently. ;)

[Apogee]

Haven't we had this argument before. I think what it always ends up boiling down to is that each is good at its given task which are obviously different. If they were the same, there would be no need to have two services. Like i said, both amazing branches, just different niches.

[peanutt765465]

Ok. listen up who do they send in first the Marines. Why becuase they are better than the Army. Ok i have a little story to prove this.

In the middle of the war in Afganastan (sorry i dont no how to spell) there were a group of ARMY RANGERS.(who are suppose to be the better of the army personel). Well they found a little group od al-qiad members and called in air support. When they asked for the cordinates they said hold on.They lost the cordinates becuase the batteries went out. So they put in new batteries and told them the cordinates. But what did they for get that when YOU PUT IN NEW ****ING BATTERIES IT TELL YU THE POSITION THE GPS IS YOU ****ING DUMB ****S. SO then the air plane came along and bomb the **** out of them and killed 15 ARMY RANGERS AND SOME AFGANIES AND INJURED A **** LOAD. I REST MY CASE Marines all the way

[JohnJohn]

and where exactly did you read that BS? :bash:

[JKD]

I've heard that story about the GPS too. Don't know if it's true or not.

But it has nothing to do with "who's better". It doesn't matter who's better anyway. The different services fill different roles.

[Dmitri]

The fact that they are going first into battle still doesn't tell me s**t... In fact, the first one to go into battle are always special ops, and the Army has a definite majority of them over other branches... And the story, even if its true, doesn't prove anything...
Fallen Angel: I'm pretty sure just about everybody has m16 A4 by now, and did you think that marines can be almost 5 times smaller?

[96B]

Peanut, your story is sort of correct in how things happened but it was not the Rangers that it happened to. I am pretty sure it was Air Force Combat Controller type dudes who messed up with the batteries and it was Army SF that got killed because of it.

[JohnJohn]

I've read that too, it is just the tone this guy uses to blast a certain service. Nobody is perfect, like you said already, each service has its own mission and serves it well.

[Ratamacue]

Hood, please get rid of this thread. All it's going to cause is a bunch of ranting and flaming from the less mature people here.

[GearGod]

ok you guys had to talk **** about marines are better than army right read this! Army rules!

http://www.geocities.com/itsg.geo/whymarinesareinept.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/getitright.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs2.htm

I'll post more later--

[96B]

You really shouldnt believe everything you read, thats obviously all BS propaganda.

[GearGod]

From http://www.geocities.com/itsg.geo/whymarinesareinept.htm


The Key Mc Systemic Sins

1. Bad institutional values

The Mc sees itself as an assault force from the sea derived from its storming ashore from U.S. Navy amphibious ships, heavily defended pacific beaches in WWII and gaining lots of positive American publicity for successes despite tactical ineptitude made possible at the cost of thousands of American dead. Taking heavy casualties but glorifying and excusing away the failure by focusing on the heroism of the individual men to further the institution before Congress and the American public, the Mc teaches blind obedience to order men forward to achieve local mass as a "virtue". WWII was actually a curse to the Mc, with Korea as a mistaken validation of a lemming ethos when it was actually lucky circumstance that seasoned, practical experience in the form of WWII veterans was able to be recalled to active duty. However, the charge! and pile on! attitude of ad hoc has endured beyond the majority of WWII veterans who know better and has permeated the organization from basic training as the cure-all to any and all battlefield problems. Respecting the enemy and what he can do is not factored into how marines fight through better techniques, plans, equipment and prudent countermeasures, as its thought these will only hamper the mass ad hoc effect. Also tied in with blind obedience is a macho pecking order of "who the hell are you?" such that the talents and skills of individuals and even the honest reporting of what they observe are not welcomed and valued to better the organization. Every issue is seen as a question of personal worth/resume' of the good faith messenger instead of the merits of the problem at hand (message). This climate is comfortable for co-dependants who want an institutional parent to validate their worth by conformity, but is a dangerous creator of listless mobs when the local leader figure is gone and they have to think and act for themselves.

2. Ad hocery

"The Mc has gotten along great by improvising, so why should it change now?" Or so goes the common myth. As long as the Mc propaganda machine covers up failures like the Beirut suicide truck bombing that killed 265 with excuses, there will be no repudiation of ad hocery in favor of reasoned and smart TTP. Look at the Mc pubs, there isn't even a TTP for creating fighting positions with overhead cover! If there is, its not trained on. "We are marines we do not need any we will always be on the attack! let the Army defend" is the smug mantra.

3. "Strawman" OPFOR

Because its not considered important to understand and know the enemy since Mc mass and gung ho (should mean Evans Carlson's work together but now means be an obedient follower with a good military appearance imbued with delusions of marine superiority) is going to overwhelm them, OPFOR is usually done by the temporary selection of a friendly unit ad hoc instead of training up and equipping a selected unit to study and best emulate the enemy. That the OPFOR is easily defeated in training exercises should come as no surprise and the scene in Heartbreak Ridge where the OPFOR die on cue by not exercising any initiative is not far from the truth, just reflect on the CSPAN video!

Possible enemy Courses Of Action (COA) are not war-gamed even during the troop-leading process or the sand table briefing via an asking of "what ifs".

4. Bad equipment

With institutional fatalism towards battle, the Mc has purchased and operated large, unarmored cargo helicopters to do heliborne assault operations in order to get mass--a squad or larger sized units into battle per aircraft and not be concerned with survival. This is despite warnings from U.S. Army Air Assault leaders like General Tolson that such large aircraft are extremely vulnerable to enemy small-arms and RPG fire, and to assault using smaller, more robust-sized helicopters flying into smaller, more unpredictable landing zones:

"The Army's decision to standardize on a utility tactical transport helicopter has far-reaching implications on every operation from its planning to its execution. Literally hundreds of our key battles could not have been fought without a light, agile machine that could go into improbable landing zones at a critical time. Had the Army chosen to build its airmobile tactics around a 'platoon carrier', different and less flexible tactics would have been forced on our commanders. As we move to replace the Huey fleet, we must never lose sight of the essential characteristics that made the Huey invaluable to the Infantry commander. Technology offers so many tempting alternatives that one can easily forget the basic problems of squad tactics. The vital lessons which we learned in the 'sizing' of our helicopter fleet dare not be forgotten.

"Late in 1956 the Department of the Army announced plans to replace the H-37 helicopter, which was powered by piston-driven engines, with a new, turbine-powered aircraft. A design competition was held and, in September 1958, a joint Army-Air Force source selection board recommended that the Army procure the Boeing Vertol medium transport helicopter. However, the necessary funds to proceed with full-scale development were not available and the Army vacillated in its design requirements. There were those in the Army who felt that this new helicopter should be a light tactical transport aimed at the mission of the old H-21's and H-34's and, consequently, sized for approximately fifteen troops. Another faction believed that the new transport should be much larger to serve as an artillery prime mover and have minimum interior dimensions compatible with the Pershing Missile system. This 'sizing' problem was a critical decision.

The first Vertol prototype, called the YHC-1A, was tested by the Army to derive engineering and operational data. Three aircraft were built with a maximum troop capacity of twenty. This model eventually became Vertol's commercial 107 and the Marine Sea Knight. However, the YHC-1A was considered by most of the Army users to be too heavy for the assault role and too light for the transport role. The decision was made to procure a heavier transport helicopter and at the same time upgrade the Huey as a tactical troop transport. This decision was to determine the pattern of airmobile operations for the next decade. As a consequence, the Army concept of air assault operations differed from the Marines because, among many reasons, the very nature of the equipment demanded different methods of employment."

The Army tries not to overload too many Soldiers and rucksacks in its UH-60 Blackhawks (successors of the Huey), and their crash-worthy seats have saved hundreds of lives; similar crashes in marine helicopters have KILLED dozens of marines. Since Vietnam, the large, unarmored CH-46 and CH-53 type helicopters have been devastated by enemy fires in numerous operations with large losses of life: Helicopter Valley, Koh Tang island, Desert One and Grenada. Mc emphasis on ship-to-shore movement slants them towards large fuel payloads for range resulting in tactically vulnerable large aircraft, a practice continued in the quest to field the fatally flawed V-22 tilt-rotor aircraft which cannot descend quickly without flipping over due to Vortex Ring State losing rotor lift on one side.

Just a mistake made in training? Think again. November 29, 2001, marines in Afghanistan: packed like sardines combat-loaded rucksacks in America's LARGEST helicopter: the CH-53E



With institutional survival hanging in the balance, the Mc has wed itself to obsolete WWII-style Navy amphibious surface ships in order to guarantee at least some part of the Mc might be forward deployed to get "a piece of the action" in a crisis. Now that these type surface ships are vulnerable to myriad missile, mine and subsurface attacks, they have had to move to over-the-horizon to avoid line-of-sight targeting, adding over 100 miles of travel distance to already range-challenged helicopters. That the Mc recently in Afghanistan had a friendly base in Pakistan to refuel to get there does not cover up the fact that large, unarmored helicopters or tilt-rotors are ill-suited for insertions and extractions of troops in mountainous terrain where close range ambush is likely.

5. Bad doctrine and TTP

Who needs TTP? We are marines.

6. Blind obedience

Shut up and do what you are told! Do not think!

7. Follow-the-leader

You are kept in the dark so you totally depend on your leaders.

8. No force protection

We are in the assault, casualties are inevitable, move on! Is the mindset

9. Half-ass training

The enemy is lesser beings: "ragheads", "slopeheads", etc. etc.

10. Circular reasoning

Marines like to point out how they executed training "by the book". Well the Mc's books are *****ed up. Its not only in many places wrong and stupid, it's supposed to be a GUIDE anyway! If your **** is weak and then say you are great because you followed your **** to the letter---that's circular reasoning. It's totally disconnected from REALITY.

11. Arrogance

The killer is that after all of this, the marine in need of feeling good about himself smugly proclaims that because he did stupid things with vigor he is great and superior to all other warriors on earth. Its a dangerous attitude in a dangerous world where real bad guys shoot back at you and are cunningly coming up with unexpected ways to kill you. The creatively evil 9/11 attacks on America of hijacking then ramming airliners into buildings should have alerted the Mc that it is far from being a "911" force.

The enemy is a human being made in God's image with creative abilities even if they are evil. But the marine doesn't know this because his self-worth, in fact all self-worth is tied up in whether they are marines or not. Yes, marines are brain-washed into this mindset in basic training and its high time we rebuke this mentality and show the disease in action, and how it can bring about battlefield disasters (Beirut, Koh Tang, Desert One) or simulated in the recent Lima Company "dog and pony" show for CSPAN.

The statements of the marines at the end of the video segment about how they are marines to prove their personal worth and superiority are sickening to say the least. These mentalities are obstacles for any kind of technotactical humility and excellence.

http://www.geocities.com/itsg.geo/whymarinesareinept.htm

More below.. Be advised; If the page is unavailable check back later when bandwidth is freed up:

http://www.geocities.com/itsg.geo/whymarinesareinept.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/getitright.htm

I'll post more later :lol:

[GearGod]

BTW, you guys forgot to include COAST GUARD in with the branches.. COAST GUARD IS ELITE/L337!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Trigger]

Isn't the Coast Guard technically Dept. of Transportation until time of war? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[fng]

Ok, I can't resist.

FallenAngel: How many tanks, apcs and helicopters do you think the Marines could buy with the money they used to pay for all those F-18s and Harriers? You can buy something like 10 M1s for the price of 1 F-18. So the Marines have the money, they just choose to have their own fighter aircraft. If they left that mission to the Navy they would have more new equipment that they would know what to do with.

Now, I am glad that there is a Marine Corp and I recognize that their particular mission (amphib. landings, etc.) is vital to the overall military force structure but I get tired of all that "Marine Corp is the best" propaganda that they feed you guys in bootcamp. I have met a few Army and Navy personel who were tired of it as well with plenty of stories of Marines who had a chip on their shoulder and had to trash talk incessantly about the other services. I mean, what's the point. Not only is such behavior unprofessional, it's childish.

To those Marines that are mature, wise and "quiet professionals" I offer my thanks and graditude for your service. To those Marines who think that somehow their s*** don't stink I quote my brother-in-law. "The only good marine is a submarine and remember Desert One."

[Scrim]

Adam, how many times are you going to post those BS links? This must be at least the 20th time.Youve been told time and time again it's all BS, please find a new argument. Hood please close this post before I shoot myself in the head. Bang....

[Bing]

why does peanut bother asking if he's so biased for the Marines? it's rhetorical...don't answer

anyway about amphibious landings, in WW2 D-day where there army personnel on those amphibious ships? or were they all marines? I know that...policy (lack of a better word) has changed since then so the role that the Army plays is perhaps different than it was then. But if anyone can clear that up...thanks :)

[GearGod]

Scrim: Not all users on this board are good ol' vets of militaryphotos.net - Some may be new to such intel

[David]

adam, so what you're saying is that you want the new people to be familiar with your old BS as well as your new BS...

[covert-one]

They are all the BEST Their Americans. :P
If I need to choose, I would personally go w/ Special forces because I like that they can work in small groups and still get the job done.They go in behind enemy lines gather intel and never get compromised.
PSYOPS.
From what I understand,whenever a special forces soldier was killed by friendly fire, it was the Air Force Combat Controllers that were calling in the strikes.

[bishop1]

Peanut is stupid, the Rangers took part in a night para jump that was the first conventional act of the war, cuz Rangers do lead the way in conventional terms, however, the Army had SF operators in a month after Sept.11 and i hate to say, it, won about 75% of the war all on their own conductiong Guerilla Warfare and CAS with the help of Air Force CCTs, and it was the SF who got killed in the blue on blue accident, and a large part of the fault is on the pilot who input the wrong corodinates, he was given both sets, but asked again the operators corodiantes and punched those in, the CCT man should have realized something was wrong when he asked for friendly cords again, but probably didnt have time to think of why he was needing them. And also, the Marines are the Navys fighting man, yes the average rifleman is most likely more fit and alittle more compedant, but theyre there to do the amphibious stuff, because theyre the Navy, but the thing im getting into, ecspecially with Special Ops stuff, everyones purpose and mission is different totally. Like the SEALs like to brag when they usually decimate SF operators in war games, but SF guys dont train like SEALs do for Direct Action, thats what SEALs are for, not SF, but the SF guys know theyre stuff, they have to to set a good example to who theyre training, but they dont work on wanting to kill all the bad guys mission as much as SEALs. Just like Force Recon guys dont train in CQB half as much as Delta because they dont do it as often, its all different and all has their own place. Personally, i want to become a Ranger in a few years, because regardless of who you like, the Rangers apitamize what soldiers should be.

[Dmitri]

Good stuff Bishop, although I would like to say that Rangers optimise what the CONVENTIONAL soldier should be, in that they are the perfect example, but I believe, especially in the past conflicts, there were no groups more usefull and effective overall than Army Special Forces (Green Berets). Physical fitness and combat are the main stuff SEALs do, yet Special Forces got more to do and train for. woot

[Seiyuuki]

Ok. listen up who do they send in first the Marines. Why becuase they are better than the Army.

Hardly right, Marines are intended to be an expeditionary force, hence they will almost always likely to go first because it is their job. They are train to hit the beach hard and fast, but they can't jump out of plane. Airborne is an Army thing, see...each have their own unique capability.

We shouldn't say who's is better, they are all depended on one and another...JUST PRAISE THEM FOR GOOD JOB THEY DO!!!

[GearGod]

Somalia. Sent marines in FIRST to give them food and humanitarian defecation. Rangers/DELTA came in and kicked everyones @$$.

Iraq. Both marines and army came in at the same time.

Marines first? Not necessarily

[Ratamacue]

I can't believe you guys actually fight over who's best. Truly pathetic.

[a. enders]

For hte love of Christ......

Here Adam.I can link to other pages too.
http://vikingphoenix.com/public/rongstad/military/unitcohesion/carlson_hack_and_sparks.htm

And

http://vikingphoenix.com/public/rongstad/dumbweirdstupidoddstrange/sparks.htm

There....now you see....one message even has content from your beloved Hackworth. :slap:

[kimouche]

PLease forgive my ignorance, but can someone explain to me the functional difference between the army and the marines?
I used to think that the army only operated on US territory and thus had a defensive role and that the marines operated outside of the US. But during the war in iraq I observed both branches to be doing as much.

[a. enders]

Based on my own observations (which may very well be wrong,anyone but Adam may correct me),the Marines are an amphibious assault force that make a beachhead and take a certain objective to secure an area.
The Army is an army.They assault and make beachheads,but they are there to secure a wider area.
Of course.That's a basic look.Of course,there is more to it.

[Piccolo]

Every service has it's problems. Lets not forget, Adam, it was the Army (and Macnamera) who were the cause of many problems with the first M16/M16A1. Including sabotoging testings, and not issuing cleaning kits and claiming the gun to be "Self-Cleaning". Also, the Marines were the first service to adopt the M16A2, while the Army just wanted to upgrade their old A1 models.

[JohnJohn]

that case wasn't a problem with the service itself, just politics getting in the way ;)

[Breacher]

The Marine Corps is a Force that can assault from not only the sea, but also complete insertion via airborne and heliborne operations. If you had to break it down Barney for the average person on the street, it would more or less as follows:

The Army is great at doing what it does.....BUT, the Army is more of an OCCUPYING FORCE. The majority of the Army arrives AFTER the initial offensive has begun. They have a huge budget to buy all kinds of crap, but the simple fact is that the Army is TOO HEAVY and TOO SLOW. They can get small numbers of troops and equipment into an area, but they are not very self sustaining.

The Marine Corps on the other hand is a force that is ALWAYS out and ALWAYS ready, and can be self sustaining for extremely long amounts of time if needed. The Marines and equipment can be put ashore VERY QUICK and continue doing so while the BLT is pressing forward onto its objective along with CAS also provided by Marines.

The toys may not be as pretty and abundant as our sister service, but we're there in a heartbeat and WE GO STRAIGHT FOR THE THROAT. When the battle is over we retrograde our Marines and equipment and wait until the pump is over to go home, or carry on to the next hotspot..........

The Marine Corps is an Assault force...The Army is an Occupying Force. We go in get the job done, the scraps are left for ....the other guys.

If anyone is offended by that, write your Congressman. He'll tell you the same thing.

Semper Fi All!

[Beloved Shiv]

Okay, we got a few good external links from this thread (with the notable exception of http://www.delta.com/home/index.jsp , oiy ...), a modicum of insight into the branches' known assets and a few good jokes. Semperfi2003, I loved yours. I'd heard it before, but needed a reminder since my admiration for the Corps was always tempered by equating "first in" with "cannon fodder".

From an earlier post .. No, the Rangers are not battery-fumbling suicidal asses. AF "Combat Controllers" in Afghanistan proved an administrative insinuation. An answer to a question never asked. Do your research, Peanut. I won't call you ignorant, since your text strongly implies you're an adolescent.

'Loved Dmitri's interpretation of Rangers.

But this "Which branch is better" is nothing more than the 6-year-olds arguing about who runs faster, Superman or The Flash. Lame.

[Beloved Shiv]

Okay, still lame, but funny too. I have a joke (joke only, let the flames smolder and die, please). This is from memory so I've likely altered the original wording.

The Marines are ordered to "secure a building." An MEU assaults as an amphibious force preceeded by AV-8B rocket runs, clears room-by-room, and prepares sandbagged machine gun and mortar emplacements.

The Army is tasked with "securing a building." General Franks orders a conventional artillery bombardment, although the Rangers and Nightstalkers are already inbound to take the structure with CQB units while Delta snipers provide overwatch.

The USAF is told to "secure a building." A sergeant turns out all the lights and locks the door behind him.

The Navy finds their "secure a building" orders Monday morning following their golf weekend. They take out a three-year lease with an option to buy.

[FallenAngel]

But this "Which branch is better" is nothing more than the 6-year-olds arguing about who runs faster, Superman or The Flash. Lame.

Oh, I'd definately go for Superman! :D

[a. enders]

Definitely The Flash.

[Scrim]

A.enders thankyou for the links you posted. Maybe Adam is Mike Sparks...
Superman.

[96B]

Let me tell you a little story about my friend Superman...

One day he was flying high over the city and enjoying the view on a beautiful day and suddenly he spotted Wonder Woman lying butt naked spread eagle ontop of a building! This instantly sparked his interest and arroused him to the point where he couldnt stand it any longer. He debated to himself for a moment. Man, I can fly faster than a speeding bullet and I figure I can get a quick pump in and be gone and she wouldnt even know what hit her! So off he goes, and swoops down faster than a speeding bullet, gets in a quick pump and jolts off into the distance. She immediately gets up and goes What the f*ck was that?!? Then the Invisible Man says, I dont know but my ass is killin me!

rofl

[peanutt765465]

umm the flash

[GearGod]

You know what leave me outta this conversation Im done here too much confusion and complications

[a. enders]

Welcome.And it might be a possibility on the Sparks thing.That's a classic Semper.





And it's the Flash by half a step. ;)

[BMF]

this has nothing to do with which service is the best...i'm in the army so you can guess what my choice is, but remember no one service can exist without the others. in light of that, heres' a joke for ya

an AF general, an army general, a marine general, and a navy admiral are arguing about which service is the best, toughest, most hardcore, etc. AF guy goes "ok, watch this" gets on a radio, and orders an F16 pilot to go into a dive, and not pull up until ordered. plane goes lower, lower....finally crashes into the ground. AF guy says there, thats hardcore. admiral aint impressed. he brings em all down to norfolk. theyre walkng along the docks, he sees a seamen in a crows nest. admiral yells up "sailor, jump out of there right now!" sailor jumps, slams into the deck of the ship and dies. the marine says **** that aint nuthin. goes up to a marine captain and says "captain, draw your sidearm and shoot yourself. captain does so, putting a bullet through his head. everyone is impressed cept for the army gen. the army general sees a private and yells for him to come over. once there, the general orders the private to shoot himself. the private looks at the general in disgust and says "**** you sir!" and walks off. army general smiles and says "now THAT is guts."

[JohnJohn]

uh, isn't that a joke that was kinda changed a bit from the origional which was a joke between US, UK and Australia or something? :lol:

[96B]

Good one BMF :lol:

[BMF]

i try semper, i try. now heres' another one.

Marine battalion is practicing amphib assaults on a beach. just as they finish, the BC noticed a figure on a sand dune right at the tree line. he's got on a black beret(this is an old joke) faded BDU's and shining jump boots, standing at parade rest. its an army ranger. the marine tells his RTO to go kick that guys ass. as the rto gets close, the ranger snaps to attention and sprints into the woodline. after some screaming is heard, the ranger runs back out, and goes back to parade rest. the marine is furious! he sends a whole squad in. as the squad gets close, the ranger runs into the woods, and a few minutes later returns and assumes his position. finally the BC says "enough of this ****!" and sends in his entire battalion. once again the ranger runs into the woods, but this time when he returns to his position, a marine LT comes crawling out of the woodline, bloody and broken. the LT makes it to his BC, and gasps out "he cheated sir!! theres' TWO of them!!"

in a moment of seriousness, i might be army, but anyone who serves in the military is a brother as far as im concerned. Ive found that no matter what service, we all have a ton in common, and get along great...until the alcohol starts flowing. after that anything can happen!

[Beowulf]

Okay, we got a few good external links from this thread (with the notable exception of http://www.delta.com/home/index.jsp , oiy ...),

Hey what's wrong witht the Delta link, they're hardcore man. :-)
-I wanna change my vote to Boy Scouts of America. They've got a super secret elite high speed unit of pimply twelve year olds with airsoft guns, and BDU's with SF patches, led by Adam B.

Hey, nothing against airsoft. I play every once in a while. Oh, and the Incredible Hulk all the way.

[a. enders]

Dunno,man.Heard Girl Scouts are pretty hard.Specialize in CQB and hostage rescue.Cub Scouts too.Gotta be some kinda super recon unit,man.Livin' on peanut-butter pine cones.




And the Hulk is a good choice.Not too fleet of foot,but he'd just me-smash the two at the start.

[Duke]

Let me answer fng post on page two. The reason the Marine Corps fields attack/fighters goes back to the Second World War. Remember the Marines at that time did not have the clout as we have today, so many Marine pilots found themselves not covering Marines, but soliders and the Navy fleet. On several occasions, such as Tarawa, Marine units under command of Army generals had their CAS transferred. The outcome of little or no CAS translated to thousands of mutilated Marines and one of the reasons the Battle for Tarawa is simply "Bloody Tarawa".
Hence the Corps fears a lack of CAS, and tightly holds onto its aircraft.

[Merik]

No way in hell you can compare the services individually against each other because they all need each other in some sort of fashion.

But if I had my vote Id actually put it in for the Tiger scouts.Tuff little bastards,I would know cause Ive been kicking ass since I was 6 :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Matt]

the Marine corps simble represents land sea and air they are the best the average grunt is better than the faggy rangers since when were rangers good :bash:

adam ur ****ing retarded those sites are **** the Marines are the first ones in thats y they have the MEUS the nations 911 service THEY ARE THE FIRST ONES IN do u see army rangers on air craft carriers around the world.......... NO u dumb **** the Marines do everything not just amphibious landings the MEUs dominate the Rangers anyday

god ur dumb adam :bash:

[Ratamacue]

:cantbeli:

[Dmitri]

rofl Yea man, judging by your grammar and the stupid comments which others said many times (but aren't true), you must be a marine yourself.. Or just don't know what you are talking about.
When was the last time Marines have used parachutes or made an air assault? When was the last time they were used in some sensetive or CT operation (we are talking general marines, since they are better than rangers rofl )?? Do you always judge by the symbol? :slap: How hard is it to get in the marines? I bet the washaway is about the same as Army.. How about getting in Rangers? 40-70 % fail. After the basic and airborne schools. How about that? :fork:

[96B]

My wee wee is bigger than yours so ha ha rofl

[Piccolo]

the Marine corps simble represents land sea and air they are the best the average grunt is better than the faggy rangers since when were rangers good :bash:

adam ur f*** retarded those sites are **** the Marines are the first ones in thats y they have the MEUS the nations 911 service THEY ARE THE FIRST ONES IN do u see army rangers on air craft carriers around the world.......... NO u dumb f*** the Marines do everything not just amphibious landings the MEUs dominate the Rangers anyday

god ur dumb adam :bash:

Tough talk coming from a Canadian..

Seriously, grow up some. No one here wants to put up with your bull****. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

[JKD]

Ok, I REALLY don't want any part of this 3rd grade "who's best" arguement. I just want to point out to Dmitri that the Marines do indeed do air assaults.

[Ratamacue]

Anyone here, not just BOB, who is arguing over the best service, has no idea what they're talking about. I'm really getting tired of this endless bull****.

I want to join the Marines. Does that mean that the Marines are the best? No. Does the fact that the Army has airborne divisions make them the best. No. Does the fact that SEALs are feared throughout the world make them the best? No. THERE IS NO BEST! EVERY UNIT IN EVERY BRANCH OF EVERY MILITARY SERVE THEIR PURPOSE! WHY CAN'T YOU FOOLS SEE IT?

I'm done. Continue your idiocy.

PS: Dmitri, Marines do covert/special ops. Prior to Operation Desert Storm, USMC Recon took 238 Iraqi prisoners from behind enemy lines.

[Dmitri]

I really don't care much about who is the best, I have respect any branch or group. But so what that they have their own purposes? They still have different physical, mental and skill trainings, no-one is arguing about the purpose, but the capabilities, and I believe they vary greatly.
Ram., if you payed any attention to my post, you would know that I was talking about "normal" marines, not Recon, since supposingly they are just so much greater than rangers.
"I want to join the Marines. Does that mean that the Marines are the best? No. Does the fact that the Army has airborne divisions make them the best. No. Does the fact that SEALs are feared throughout the world make them the best? No. " rofl
I agree that overall its idiotic to argue about this, I was just answering some stupid comment, but when you will join the military, you'll see that competition btw. platoons, companies, services and branches is one of the cores of the training, its always there, see what you'll be saying then.[/quote]