delta force for class assignment: good/bad idea?

[spoonman]

i have an assignment for an argumentative writing class where i must choose an organization that i either agree with or disagree with. since it's easier to write about things that interest you i figured why not delta force, they are nothing if not interesting.

but my question is; are there enough legitimate sources to compose an effective paper or is all information relating to delta too speculative for serious use in an assignment?

as alternatives the navy seals and the USMC MEU were put forth but most people know less about delta force so i figured it would make a better topic.

i'm not really sure where this thread should go so i just stuck it in general, feel free to move it if there is a more applicable place.

[TriggerPuller]

i have an assignment for an argumentative writing class where i must choose an organization that i either agree with or disagree with. since it's easier to write about things that interest you i figured why not delta force, they are nothing if not interesting.

but my question is; are there enough legitimate sources to compose an effective paper or is all information relating to delta too speculative for serious use in an assignment?

as alternatives the navy seals and the USMC MEU were put forth but most people know less about delta force so i figured it would make a better topic.

i'm not really sure where this thread should go so i just stuck it in general, feel free to move it if there is a more applicable place. Bad idea!! nuff said!!

TP

[hank]

Not to disagree with TP. But, what is the harm? You will have a hard time finding out anything more than anecdotal evidence about the unit, probably. But that in and of itself could make a great paper. Why not write about the fact that we have a government sponsored agency that operates in near total secrecy? Is that OK? Should it be? Take a position and back it up. Sounds like fun.

Not everybody will agree on this I am sure. Let the flaming begin.

hank

[Dennis G]

Good Idea if you read Inside Delta Force

[spoonman]

Bad idea!!
you had to be expecting this, but why?


Good Idea if you read Inside Delta Force

that's what i was thinking, i've been looking and there isn't much on the subject but books have been cleared for use as a primary source.


. Why not write about the fact that we have a government sponsored agency that operates in near total secrecy? Is that OK? Should it be? Take a position and back it up. Sounds like fun.


that is the plan, it's a more interesting idea that all the other jackasses doing organizations like the RIAA or MTV and stupid **** like that.

[hank]

You go spoonman. Sounds like a great paper.

hank

[WARPIG]

Whether or not the idea is good is your choice bro. Just keep in mind that most of what the public knows about Delta originates from hollywood. Good or bad, it is likely that either side is arguable. Backing up a few steps and maybe arguing the concept of having an organition that is deniable may be a better subject.

Good luck.

[Maverick77]

Who gives a **** if theres not enough sources...

assuming your in a public school no one is going to know what the **** your talking about anyway.


go for it

[usa320]

or you could write about the RIAA Delta team...those mysterious men in black seen raiding people's apartments, smashing their stereo equipment and computers...

rofl

[hank]

Mel Gibson already covered that subject. Too late.

hank

[WARPIG]

Who gives a f*** if theres not enough sources...

assuming your in a public school no one is going to know what the f*** your talking about anyway.


go for it

Warpig cautiosly gives Airborne a hug. :hug:

Apparently mixing the viagra and prozac have made you irritable.

[Dennis G]

spoonman you going to post your paper when your done?

[Dennis G]

^^Because I would like to read it.

[NcDeuce]

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Watch this, it will give you the full scoop on 1st SFOD-D.

[spoonman]

hell yeah i'll post it when i'm done, i like to share.

[ibstolidude]

Kick yourself in the head

[SEALInTheMaking]

If your doing it for a class assignment, then the accuracy of your info is not important anyway. Unless you've got another military buff in your class, no one is going to have any idea what your talking about. If you have to present it, just use so much military jargin that the teacher doesn't understand and starts to feel stupid. If you can make them feel dumb, they'll give you an A every time. At least thats my experience.

[mocking_loudly_died]

If military jargon doesn't work, report your teacher to homeland security as a commie insurgent.

Works all the time.

[SEALInTheMaking]

Thats a really good idea. Never would'a thought of that. Tellin them that he/she is muslim would probably work better though.

[Cael]

Sounds like a good idea man if you can get enough info. But a lot of these guys are right, most highschool papers especially on Delta, probably won't need too much accuracy in it. It'd be nice though, and if I was your teacher i'd definitely be a bit excited to hearing what it is that you've got.

A couple of things that you may want to read. There are two books that i've read on Delta, the one Eric Haney wrote and older book by Beckwith. There's probably other books on it, but depending on how you write it and where it is you're going with the paper, those two might be helpful. (If you like reading, it won't take too long to finish em.) That or you can jump through chapters and getting the exact information you'd want.

You should definitely post it when you're done.

[spoonman]

it's for a college composition class. our first assignment was to write a paper on the merits of legalizing drugs, our teacher is a burnout and i enjoy having dissenting opinions.

i've reviewed the assignment and my paper is going more along the route of my opinion on what the delta force is and why(justified by me) they exisit. i only need a little background information before developing my main argument so "inside delta force" and the book by beckwith (Delta Force: The Armys Elite Counterterrorist Unit) are probably the only sources i'll need.

[Cael]

Oh I see. I listed those because those are the two books that I've read. If I were to turn in a college paper, well I wouldn't pick a topic for Delta depending on where I was heading with my paper. It seems that you're going about on finding some information on their backgrounds, personaly those books would do fine. Unless someone else can name a few others that may have more information.

However it seems that you're just a bit breezing through the backgrounds, those two books would do it for you.

[NcDeuce]

http://www.msu.edu/~couilla3/ninja/ambush3a.jpg

Unclassified: The Dread D

[zenmaster]

What's to argue about Delta? I think the organization they are thinking of is like PETA or Earth First or what not. You might pick an organization that has a point you can argue, as opposed to writing about something that no one else will know or care about.

[Rilence]

that really isnt the dreaded D is it deuce? :lol:

[spoonman]

What's to argue about Delta? I think the organization they are thinking of is like PETA or Earth First or what not. You might pick an organization that has a point you can argue, as opposed to writing about something that no one else will know or care about.

the argument is that is it justified that there is a government organization that operates in almost total secrecy and it's very existence is denied by said government. (this is what i understand about Delta so far.)

my argument is going to be that given the nature of what they do it is acceptable that they operate in secrecy for the simple fact that they would not be able to do their job near as effectively if they were always exposed to public scrutiny.

p.s. who the **** cares about PETA or Earth First? not me, that's for damn sure.

[11F5S]

the argument is that is it justified that there is a government organization that operates in almost total secrecy and it's very existence is denied by said government. (this is what i understand about Delta so far.)

You need find a different arument, because the exsistence of CAG / SFOD-D hasn't been denied by the US government for more than two decades.

Your professor and classmates can reduce that argument to horse manure....the very existence of Colonel Beckwith's book "Delta Force" (1983) is proof positive that the government doesn't deny it's existence.

[Cael]

Yeah, he's right, if that's where you're going with this. I know it's tough to completely change a paper around after you've gotten the outline and have compiled your thoughts down, but if that is your argument and if you do have a teacher/prof (you in HS or college?) that's very competent and not into just being wowed by a student's topic. You may find yourself with many questions, all in red letters on your paper.

I remember those red letters, those college profs like to fill up those hard worked papers (more like novels) with them red letters.

Also, what you may want to do is print that in red ink. And tell them to "take that!". :lol:

Good luck man, and you may want to post or pm us with your thesis statement.

[spoonman]

the argument is that is it justified that there is a government organization that operates in almost total secrecy and it's very existence is denied by said government. (this is what i understand about Delta so far.)

You need find a different arument, because the exsistence of CAG / SFOD-D hasn't been denied by the US government for more than two decades.

Your professor and classmates can reduce that argument to horse manure....the very existence of Colonel Beckwith's book "Delta Force" (1983) is proof positive that the government doesn't deny it's existence.
****. i probably shouldn't have said anything before i started doing actual research. the paper isn't due until mid-march so i'm still fleshing the whole thing out and don't really have anything concrete at this point.

i still want to use Delta as the topic of my paper since i can still go the generic route of why i agree/disagree with their existence and make it work. if anyone has any (credible)links that would enlighten me a little before i get the two books i'd appreciate it, i can't find **** by myself on the internet.