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Greetings,
I am wondering if any members out there might be able to identify a "mystery" camouflage uniform acquired some months ago. It is an Asian-made uniform (probably ROK contract) in a variation of the "chocolate chip" desert pattern, but utilizing a much different colour scheme. I believe it was probably intended for a country either in Africa or the Middle East, but no confirmations as of yet. Many Middle Eastern variants of "chocolate chip" pattern are known, but not this particular one.
Perhaps someone out there has seen this pattern worn somewhere. It may also be a test pattern, never issued to any military organization. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
ICUS
El-Sefarad
01-09-2006, 06:31 PM
I've ever seen this kind of camo on russian soldiers... it was very similar
Georgian, I think, or some Caucasian country.
Corinthian
01-09-2006, 06:35 PM
Jordan ?
worldcamo.com?
Camo collection on line
2/1kiwi
01-09-2006, 07:33 PM
dosent South Africa use a similar pattern?
nevermind thought it was this.
ERASERHEAD
01-09-2006, 08:30 PM
guess where i saw it. a halloween costume store "army man" costume.
Thanks for the comments so far, gents.
The uniform is unquestionably not Eastern European, so it is not Russian or Georgian. I've seen several other uniforms in this same style of uniform cut, and most of them were Chinese or Korean contract uniforms for African or Middle Eastern countries. The cut is very similar to Eritrea and Ethiopia's uniforms, but I have not seen any soldiers from these countries wearing this camouflage pattern before.
I am sorry the photograph was edited to a smaller format. It is difficult to see the configuration, but the design is very simple with epaulettes, chest pockets, exposed buttons. Not like any Russian or CIS nation uniforms I have seen.
Appreciate the input so far, though.
Cheers,
ICUS
Limeyfellow
01-09-2006, 11:20 PM
It could well be a cheap chinese knock off for the civilian market too. Way too many lookalike uniforms on the market.
Crap. I wish I could remember where I saw that pic of soldiers wearing this pattern. It struck me as odd at the time to see the "chocolate-chip" pattern resurrected in a less "arid" form, but it was definitely a recent pic and definitely actual military use. I coulda sworn it was somewhere in the Caucasus (which is not really Eastern Europe, btw). My memory fails me.
Crap. I wish I could remember where I saw that pic of soldiers wearing this pattern. It struck me as odd at the time to see the "chocolate-chip" pattern resurrected in a less "arid" form, but it was definitely a recent pic and definitely actual military use. I coulda sworn it was somewhere in the Caucasus (which is not really Eastern Europe, btw). My memory fails me.
If you could produce any kind of photograph showing the uniform being worn, that would be extremely helpful. My suspicion (no offense) is that you saw something similar, but probably not this exact uniform or pattern. However, I could very well be mistaken (and in any case I would very much like to find out where uniform was worn). I'm just relying on many years of experience as a collector and having viewed several thousand examples of military camouflage uniforms from all over the world. This uniform does not look like anything that I have ever seen from the former Soviet Union, nor any of the current patterns I have seen in use by CIS nations or the autonomous regions in Western Asia. But who knows, maybe I missed something!
Thanks,
ICUS
Phillipino Police use something similar but not quite that poxy looking.
You can buy bright orange Tiger Stripe and Pink "Woodland" unis so did it occur that it could just be some dodgy fashion item?
miguelencanarias
01-11-2006, 03:29 AM
ICUS, I think I saw a picture of a soldier actually wearing that camo pattern. It was in this forum, but I don't remember what thread or from what country. Let me look into it.
miguelencanarias
01-11-2006, 03:45 AM
ICUS, I am sorry, I did find the picture I vaguely remembered but now I see it couldn't look less military. So the matter is still open to discussion.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6012/armymaus7us.jpg
TuNeRsHaRk
01-11-2006, 07:52 AM
i saw this somewhere, in a movie or something. i think it was somewhere from the middle east, like saudi arabia or something but that might be wrong
miguelencanarias
01-11-2006, 08:37 AM
TuNeRsHaRk, I think you might be mistaking it for the Phillipine Army cholate chip, but the colours are different. Saudi Arabia has a choco chip pattern, but it is blueish.
Beer Monster
01-11-2006, 08:53 AM
I've seen a similar one worn by the Kazakhstan Army (? ...... Azerbaijan were there too but I'm pretty sure they guy is from Kazakhstan), its not exactly the same ..... slightly more "faded":-
See Goldmans thread on Ex Cooperative Best Effort (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63675&highlight=cooperative+effort)
I've seen a similar one worn by the Kazakhstan Army (? ...... Azerbaijan were there too but I'm pretty sure they guy is from Kazakhstan), its not exactly the same ..... slightly more "faded":-
See Goldmans thread on Ex Cooperative Best Effort (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63675&highlight=cooperative+effort)
This is the uniform I was thinking of. I knew it was former-Soviet, Central Asia, but I was off a bit to the left with the Caucasus. Also, definitely Kazachstan, as there is a name tape on the right breast with the country's name.
This is the uniform I was thinking of. I knew it was former-Soviet, Central Asia, but I was off a bit to the left with the Caucasus. Also, definitely Kazachstan, as there is a name tape on the right breast with the country's name.
Thanks. Yes, that is the new desert camouflage uniform of Kazakhstan, which was just introduced last year. As you can see the colours are quite different from the "mystery" one I am trying to figure out, and the cut of the uniform is abundantly different too.
M1A2U2
01-11-2006, 11:21 PM
dont the generic middle east troops wear that in Syriana?
Dalleer
01-16-2006, 10:17 AM
It is an Asian-made uniform (probably ROK contract)
How'd you come to the conclusion that it's a ROK contract ? Does it have some sorts of tags indicating South-Korean origin ?
How about epaulets , Does it have them ? Where exactly did you acquire this set of camouflaged fatigues ?
It's quite possible that this one's a set from a test batch of some sort , or then again , another cheap Chinese knock-off of the six-color desert.
How'd you come to the conclusion that it's a ROK contract ? Does it have some sorts of tags indicating South-Korean origin ?
How about epaulets , Does it have them ? Where exactly did you acquire this set of camouflaged fatigues ?
It's quite possible that this one's a set from a test batch of some sort , or then again , another cheap Chinese knock-off of the six-color desert.
I have been collecting camouflage uniforms for approximately 25 years now, and I have examined several thousands specimens over this period of time. I have concluded this uniform is ROK-contract based on the pattern of construction and the fact that the layout of the uniform is exactly the same as some other examples in my collection that were made in South Korea. However, there is always a margin for error. In this case, I am 99% certain it is an ROK contract uniform. As for tags, most Chinese and Korean produced contract uniforms carry only size tags, but other details can provide information about the possible origin (such as type of construction, weight of fabric, buttons, metal snaps, type of tags, etc).
The uniform does have epaulettes. It was acquired through a third party. This same party has supplied me with dozens of other camouflage uniforms, many of them made in South Korea (some for ROK military and some for other foreign militaries).
I agree it is possible this is a test uniform, which is why I have asked the question to see if anyone has seen the uniform in military application. I do not agree or think it is likely this is a cheap, Chinese knock-off. There is little precedent for such a possibility (the uniform, for example, is not very "fashionable").
ICUS
SEAHAWK
01-16-2006, 02:27 PM
I've seen a similar one worn by the Kazakhstan Army (? ...... Azerbaijan were there too but I'm pretty sure they guy is from Kazakhstan), its not exactly the same ..... slightly more "faded":-
It's absulately belongs to an another country. I know Azerbaijan's camo. It's very different.
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