Socialism vs Capitolism the poll

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Well whats your choice?

[MBG]

I'll go with you Min and choose Capitolism :)

[mack pl]

stalinism


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[sergey31]

Paying extra taxes so idiot down the street can have his teeth fixed because he was a lazy bum and didn't take care of them...... Fuk socialism, I'm not in the mood to pay for others peoples problems.

[crinkler]

I like nice ****, so that should answer your question.:)

[Jani.R]

I like the scandinavian system.

[nagant_m44]

i choose capitalism

[nagant_m44]

stalinism


......

hypocrite!:bash:

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

come on comrades.

Free goth chicks for all?

[crinkler]

come on comrades.

Free goth chicks for all?
Yeah, umm... see with capitalism you get free big breasted woman and nice cars and a nice house and a lot of nice ****.


Hmm... On one hand free gothic chick who likes to cut her self. On the other a life of enjoyment ...... Hmmmmm thats a tough one ;)

[Uncle-Howie]

Paying extra taxes so idiot down the street can have his teeth fixed because he was a lazy bum and didn't take care of them...... Fuk socialism, I'm not in the mood to pay for others peoples problems.

Lol WTF ???
Maybe the "lazy guy" is just too poor to have his teeth fixed or anything else.

[sergey31]

Lol WTF ???
Maybe the "lazy guy" is just too poor to have his teeth fixed or anything else.
If your lazy then that also explains why you're poor, no? I think it goes hand with hand.
Lazy= Poor.
Retard + Lazy= poor.
In capitalism all have the opportunity to be NOT poor, it you are poor then most likely then not it's your choice.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

If your lazy then that also explains why you're poor, no? I think it goes hand with hand.
Lazy= Poor.
Retard + Lazy= poor.
In capitalism all have the opportunity to be NOT poor, it you are poor then most likely then not it's your choice.

So everyone in the world who is not Bill Gates is a lazy retard? :roll:

[Uncle-Howie]

Hem, I know many guys who aren't lazy but still unemployed.
But I must admit that some of my friends spend summertime on the beach trying to find some hotties while I work :|

[crinkler]

Hem, I know many guys who aren't lazy but still unemployed.
But I must admit that some of my friends spend summertime on the beach trying to find some hotties while I work :|
You live in france right?

[Uncle-Howie]

Yes it's written in my public profil.
SO ?

[Thor]

Well whats your choice?
"Don't care let's just kill the commiez"?

But that wasn't an option.. :-(

[sergey31]

So everyone in the world who is not Bill Gates is a lazy retard? :roll:
That's is a bit extreme example. Yes, the guy is VERY hard working, Did you know that even though he has 50+Billions he still works 18 hours a day? Now that's what I call dedication and maybe even an obsession. More power to him and it just shows that what's possible in Capitalism. There are millions and millions who are rich (wealthy) who worked very hard to get it.
I'm not poor but I'm not Bill gates, how's that? No one said you need to be worlds wealthiest man here.

[crinkler]

Yes it's written in my public profil.
SO ?
Thats how come people who have a will to work can be unemployed you live in france. Im mean come on the gov tells you how many hours you can work.

[Uncle-Howie]

Thats how come people who have a will to work can be unemployed you live in france. Im mean come on the gov tells you how many hours you can work.
Not really, I used to work more than the mighty "35 hours a week" last summer.

[crinkler]

Not really, I used to work more than the mighty "35 hours a week" last summer.
35 hours a week, thats less that a full work week, no counting over time etc. Hell I work 16 hours some days,

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Thats how come people who have a will to work can be unemployed you live in france. Im mean come on the gov tells you how many hours you can work.

There is laws in just about every country limiting the amount of hours a person can work.

Here in Australia it's 38 hours. Any more hours after that you are entitled to overtime pay.

Simple as that. Even the capitolist paradise of the USA has a standared working week of 40 hours written into law. AFAIK

[a_very_ex_STAB]

That's is a bit extreme example. Yes, the guy is VERY hard working, Did you know that even though he has 50+Billions he still works 18 hours a day? Now that's what I call dedication and maybe even an obsession. More power to him and it just shows that what's possible in Capitalism. There are millions and millions who are rich (wealthy) who worked very hard to get it.
I'm not poor but I'm not Bill gates, how's that? No one said you need to be worlds wealthiest man here.
But poverty is always relative. You say you're not poor but how do you define poor.

I've been to India many times. There are hundreds of millions of people there who do many hours of backbreaking labour there each day but they will never be any richer while it could be said that I do a fraction of the work that they do and am hundreds of times richer. That isn't because they are retarded, and they obviously are not lazy, its because they lack opportunities.

[Uncle-Howie]

35 hours a week, thats less that a full work week, no counting over time etc. Hell I work 16 hours some days,
Wow legal limitation here is 8 hours a day
I mean look the french teachers work 16 hours a WEEK :)

[crinkler]

There is laws in just about every country limiting the amount of hours a person can work.

Here in Australia it's 38 hours. Any more hours after that you are entitled to overtime pay.

Simple as that. Even the capitolist paradise of the USA has a standared working week of 40 hours written into law. AFAIK
Yes, than overtime. I was under the impression however in some places overtime doesnt exist, your limited to how many hours you can work.


In usa your not limited to hours. You simply get paid more for working over those 8 hours usually

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

16 hours a day is the max in Australia. But by law you must have a 10 hour break between shifts.

[sergey31]

But poverty is always relative. You say you're not poor but how do you define poor.

I've been to India many times. There are hundreds of millions of people there who do many hours of backbreaking labour there each day but they will never be any richer while it could be said that I do a fraction of the work that they do and am hundreds of times richer. That isn't because they are retarded its because they lack opportunities.

For one those people don't live in the capitalist system.

Second, they try and will sell anything to get in to U.S

Third, overpopulation is always a problem and pretty much related to poor countries to begin with and that is not what we are discussing here.

In civilized countries like U.S for example, if one is poor is because he/she chose that lifestyle and it's quite possible to get out of it if they have enough brain power. Do you ever wonder why foreigners that come here are prospering while many Americans are poor all their lives. It's because those foreigners are hard working and they get what they want if they work hard enough for it.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

For one those people don't live in the capitalist system.

It's a mixed economy and India is a relevant example because there are also people who live there who are extremely wealthy but who have opportunities and connections that the poor people don't no matter how hard they work.

Personally I don't buy your myth that the USA is some kind of land of opportunity either. It may have been true at one time but social mobility has vastly decreased over there in recent years and there are huge numbers of people who will never move up no matter how hard they work.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

bloody hell guys it's a joke topic.

[percell_086]

So where are the goth chicks? I need proof!

[Freibier]

Socialism, euro style.
Unrestricted capitalism ruins our planet and plays you like puppets

[a_very_ex_STAB]

bloody hell guys it's a joke topic.

'course it is but it doesn't mean we can't have a good ole knockabout debate over the relative merits of moustachioed socialist chicks with hairy armpits vs wealthy supermodels does it :)

[mack pl]

hypocrite!:bash:

what do you mean? p-)

[Conga]

stupid double post

[Conga]

More power to him and it just shows that what's possible in Capitalism. There are millions and millions who are rich (wealthy) who worked very hard to get it.

And there are a lot more people that work even harder but can't afford a ****ing car.

But that doesn't mean I'm a communist.

[goldman]

Minardiau you know how i feel about this. But I'll vote for socialism under one condition that is if you never ever talk nor post or pleasure your self to Goth Chicks. Deal?

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Sorry dude. In my evil empire gothic chicks will be the order of the day. I gess you will die in the labour camps.

[sergey31]

And there are a lot more people that work even harder but can't afford a ****ing car.

But that doesn't mean I'm a communist.

Those people have made poor decisions in their life at one point and that is why they work hard"er". Working hard is only one part, working smart plays an equal important role. Just because someone works hard and then blows all his $ on crap like beer and hookers doesn't mean he's become successful anytime soon.

Personally I know that I can be even more successful and capable then I am right now, If I want a newer or "better" vehicle, well I could get one.....but that's not my priority. Here in U.S and pretty much anywhere in the world, knowing how to manage your finances is an important step to get you where you want to be.

But back to original topic, If I'm work my ass off the last thing I need is for government is to take half of my pay check to support lazy bums who wish not to work or stay home and I'm unknowingly helping them raise their kids or whatever. Thanks but no thanks, I'm for keeping as much as I can that I earn by my hard work and my life hours spent doing it.

[catalyst]

But back to original topic, If I'm work my ass off the last thing I need is for government is to take half of my pay check to support lazy bums who wish not to work or stay home and I'm unknowingly helping them raise their kids or whatever. Thanks but no thanks, I'm for keeping as much as I can that I earn by my hard work and my life hours spent doing it.

And one day I hope you make a mistake and then you will have no support either....I see your argument....But i feel it is flawed....

Either way...you still have to pay taxes for other things....

[sergey31]

Don't worry about me, I'm set for the future what ever it might bring.
Unfortunately even here in U.S we have Medicare/aid, social security and other government programs to help disabled and such.... Paying taxes is fine in moderations but paying 50% and up is ridicules and it would definitely deter some people from working hard.... Any system is not perfect but Capitalism is better then Socialism when it comes to making money, that is what Capitalism is all about.

[hell]

Well, when you look at the stuff Marx was originally putting on paper, Communism/Socialism sounds great. But looking at history, you can see where it has been tried all over the world, and hasn't worked.

Capitalism has a fair approach at life, but it's similar to Socialism; once put in place in real life, it sucks as well.

The factor that ruins both? Human intervention. Greed has ruined both systems. Everyone being equal and working to have the same life as everyone else is a great idea, but will never happen. Capitalism is great because of the freedoms entailed, but is ruined when only 10% of a country's population can really benefit from it.

I didn't vote for either one. That poll is similar to the political problem in America; it's either choice A or B, almost no one even thinks of more than two approaches to life. </rant>

[Morboute]

I don't care, i wont work i will just steal the money from some one that has loads. p-)

[hell]

I don't care, i wont work i will just steal the money from some one that has loads. p-)


amen to that; gotta love the free-loading Telletubbies ;)

[sergey31]

Well, when you look at the stuff Marx was originally putting on paper, Communism/Socialism sounds great. But looking at history, you can see where it has been tried all over the world, and hasn't worked.

Capitalism has a fair approach at life, but it's similar to Socialism; once put in place in real life, it sucks as well.

The factor that ruins both? Human intervention. Greed has ruined both systems. Everyone being equal and working to have the same life as everyone else is a great idea, but will never happen. Capitalism is great because of the freedoms entailed, but is ruined when only 10% of a country's population can really benefit from it.

I didn't vote for either one. That poll is similar to the political problem in America; it's either choice A or B, almost no one even thinks of more than two approaches to life. </rant>

Disagree completely. 10%? Are you kidding? I'm definitely better off then most people on this planet, - even here by U.S standards I'm not poor and not even near 60% of poor standards definition.
Here in U.S you get what you really want out of life, you want to be poor? Well that's easy, just don't do anything. You want better life? Go do something about don't just dream about and sit on your ass.
Yes, we have flaws here as well. We have quite a few generations who keep staying on welfare programs and keep having kids while government is paying their bills....That is just pure BS and good thing that recently government began reducing the size of those and other liberal programs.
I'm actually very grateful to live here in U.S and I feel fortunate.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

You do not want to know what went through my mind after reading that post.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Anyway enough of the serious ****.

Vote Red!

Or you suffer the consequences

[sergey31]

You do not want to know what went through my mind after reading that post.
I just hope it wasn't me tide up in the basement with red ball in my mouth.

[Conga]

Here in U.S you get what you really want out of life, you want to be poor? Well that's easy, just don't do anything. You want better life? Go do something about don't just dream about and sit on your ass.
Yes, we have flaws here as well. We have quite a few generations who keep staying on welfare programs and keep having kids while government is paying their bills....That is just pure BS and good thing that recently government begat reducing the size of those and other liberal programs.

So you're basically saying that poor families are poor because they're lazy?
Then go tell an divorced unemployed mother of three kids (which is not a rare case) to get her ass up, and that the government is too generous :roll:

[crinkler]

I just hope it wasn't me tide up in the basement with red ball in my mouth.
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/pulp_fiction/_group_photos/bruce_willis1.jpg

[LaoSexMachine]

Min, we all know you have a hard on for socialism. I myself prefer capitalism gives the individual more freedom

[Roaming East]

capitalism for me, grinding soul crushing socialism for everyone else.
Just like the Good ole days

[sergey31]

So you're basically saying that poor families are poor because they're lazy?
Then go tell an divorced unemployed mother of three kids (which is not a rare case) to get her ass up, and that the government is too generous :roll:

That divorced mother made VERY big mistakes early in life..... You want to know how? She did not get any education (college) and she had 3 lazy kids with a looser who left her and will end up paying through his ass for child support. Personally I don't care about others people mistakes in life and for sure I don't want to work my ass off paying for them either.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I just hope it wasn't me tide up in the basement with red ball in my mouth.

Lucky for you I only do that to chicks........................And macs.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

That divorced mother made VERY big mistakes early in life..... You want to know how? She did not get any education (college) and she had 3 lazy kids with a looser who left her and will end up paying through his ass for child support. Personally I don't care about others people mistakes in life and for sure I don't want to work my ass off paying for them either.

Now you have gone to far.

So lets say for example. Some young 20 something get married. The husband has finished university and she is still studying. Now like alot of people they decide to have a family. She leaves university to have the child. The husband is in a job that can support the family.

Now 15-20 years down the track. The marriage ends in divorce. You seriously believe the government should not provide assistance?

[crinkler]

Now you have gone to far.

So lets say for example. Some young 20 something get married. The husband has finished university and she is still studying. Now like alot of people they decide to have a family. She leaves university to have the child. The husband is in a job that can support the family.

Now 15-20 years down the track. The marriage ends in divorce. You seriously believe the government should not provide assistance?
**** no, let me second that with a big old ****ing hell no.

Why is the gov responsible for her martial issues?

[sergey31]

Now you have gone to far.

So lets say for example. Some young 20 something get married. The husband has finished university and she is still studying. Now like alot of people they decide to have a family. She leaves university to have the child. The husband is in a job that can support the family.

Now 15-20 years down the track. The marriage ends in divorce. You seriously believe the government should not provide assistance?

Yes they should but for a limited time with deadline. Even in U.S we have programs for that.
But then again it was her fault, she dropped out and the husband still pays child support- even if he does not like it, the government takes out of his pay check.
But I'm still against my hard working $ going to sponsor loosers.

[Uncle-Howie]

Hey folks, stop being in front of your computer, WORK HARDER FOR MORE MONEY rofl

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

So you want them to be on the street?

The kids schooling will suffer unless the mother does have serious resolve and has instilled the working ethic in them. Which is unlikely due to how hard it is for all involved during a divorce. Now when the kids school suffers. They get closer and closer to becoming further drains on society. Let alone getting closer to embarking on a life of drugs due to depression, crime to support the drug habit.

It's a vicious world out here and I see it all to often even here in Australia where we do offer single parents alot of support.

[sergey31]

Hey folks, stop being in front of your computer, WORK HARDER FOR MORE MONEY rofl

I'm actually getting paid quite well for typing this..... :) I work smarter not just harder.

[Johnny_H02]

choose Capitolism :)

[crinkler]

So you want them to be on the street?

The kids schooling will suffer unless the mother does have serious resolve and has instilled the working ethic in them. Which is unlikely due to how hard it is for all involved during a divorce. Now when the kids school suffers. They get closer and closer to becoming further drains on society. Let alone getting closer to embarking on a life of drugs due to depression, crime to support the drug habit.

It's a vicious world out here and I see it all to often even here in Australia where we do offer single parents alot of support.
How old are you? Seriously you don't seem to have a good idea of what happens in such cases you state.

If your married for even 3 years to some one and they are say a house wife, when divorced the man will have the pay some sort of alimony even if its her fault, also he will pay child support. Some times quite a bit. In the early 90's one of my friends parents got a divorce, the dad ended up paying just about $2k per kid per month plus the wife was given a monthly payment because she was dependant on his income.

So the government has stepped in enough the last thing we need is more big government.


Seriously grow the **** up and stop expecting hand outs do your own damn work. If you cant support yourself than you ****ed up and that is on your shoulders not any one elses.

Who purchased your computer? Who is paying for your boarding etc etc ? I would be willing to bet your parents. You sound like a spoiled kid who wants everything given to them with out contributing a damn thing.

[Greek soldier]

I like the scandinavian system.

So do I. Even though now Sweden has unemployment problems... while Norway has 2.7% unemployment...

[sergey31]

So you want them to be on the street?

The kids schooling will suffer unless the mother does have serious resolve and has instilled the working ethic in them. Which is unlikely due to how hard it is for all involved during a divorce. Now when the kids school suffers. They get closer and closer to becoming further drains on society. Let alone getting closer to embarking on a life of drugs due to depression, crime to support the drug habit.

It's a vicious world out here and I see it all to often even here in Australia where we do offer single parents alot of support.

For the last time man, I don't want to pay for other people mistakes and bad calls they made in their life.
The government should offer something but it's your life and you make it they way you want it. Go to fuking school, get a job, become a manager owner whatever......or be a looser.
Why should government take 50%+ out of my paycheck to support looser of all kinds? Did you read my comment about child support? The guy still has to pay for his kids even though he's divorced. She can go and find a better job or go get some new profession, open a store, business what ever.

FuK I'm tired from all this nonsense....... I'm done here, out.

[Uncle-Howie]

I'm actually getting paid quite well for typing this..... :) I work smarter not just harder.

You communist, you're reading boards while working, and what about productivity then ?
Nah just kidding p-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I'm actually very grateful to live here in U.S and I feel fortunate.
So you had opportunities denied to hard working non-retarded ppl elsewhere by say an accident of geography

[Lokos]

I like welfare liberalist economies. Like Australia's.

We rule your world. And you know it.

Bow.

Lokos

[sergey31]

So you had opportunities denied to hard working non-retarded ppl elsewhere by say an accident of geography

No.... They were born under screwd up governemts, most likely socialist system.

And for the rest of you looser, Go ahead give those negative reps, I don't give a damn about...... What a bunch of nerds, just because I think better they want to give me negative reps, go ahead knock yourselves out. rofl

[Uncle-Howie]

Hey don't call me a looser you lazy board checker, GO AND WORK HARDER :)

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

How old are you? Seriously you don't seem to have a good idea of what happens in such cases you state.

Older then you think.



Seriously grow the **** up and stop expecting hand outs do your own damn work. If you cant support yourself than you ****ed up and that is on your shoulders not any one elses.

I personally don't expect hand outs off anyone. I've never had to receive handouts off anyone. Even after I ceased full time employment during the middle of last yeah I have been doing enough casual work to keep myself very happy.



Who purchased your computer? Who is paying for your boarding etc etc ? I would be willing to bet your parents. [.quote]

That would be me. Yep every single question yep. Guess what I payed for it.

[quote=crinkler]You sound like a spoiled kid who wants everything given to them with out contributing a damn thing.

Spoiled....Hmm. Let me think. Hahaha good one. You should be a comedian.
Now no offence. But before you start telling people to grow up. Perhaps maybe you should do some research on the person. But just so you know for future reference.

Completed highschool Check
Obtained a trade in boilermaking check
Spent 5 years working in said trade check
Vocational training in Business Adminstration check
Financial Officer at Australia's largest non capitol city University for 4 years check.
Requried permits to work on constructions sites check
Requried permits to work on the dockyards check

Anything else you would like know I can be here for quite awhile.

[crinkler]

Older then you think.



I personally don't expect hand outs off anyone. I've never had to receive handouts off anyone. Even after I ceased full time employment during the middle of last yeah I have been doing enough casual work to keep myself very happy.

[quote=crinkler]
Who purchased your computer? Who is paying for your boarding etc etc ? I would be willing to bet your parents. [.quote]

That would be me. Yep every single question yep. Guess what I payed for it.



Spoiled....Hmm. Let me think. Hahaha good one. You should be a comedian.
Now no offence. But before you start telling people to grow up. Perhaps maybe you should do some research on the person. But just so you know for future reference.

Completed highschool Check
Obtained a trade in boilermaking check
Spent 5 years working in said trade check
Vocational training in Business Adminstration check
Financial Officer at Australia's largest non capitol city University for 4 years check.
Requried permits to work on constructions sites check
Requried permits to work on the dockyards check

Anything else you would like know I can be here for quite awhile.
Well your ****ed in the head than If you have truly worked hard for what you have and want a government to redistribute what wealth you have made.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

It's not being ****ed in the head at all. I've paid quite alot of taxes over the years. And i'm quite content that the vast majority of people that do recieve government support generally do need this support.

Believe it or not. There is very few people that actually rort the system. Just remember. **** happens. It usually happens when you can least afford it to happen.

[crinkler]

It's not being ****ed in the head at all. I've paid quite alot of taxes over the years. And i'm quite content that the vast majority of people that do recieve government support generally do need this support.

Believe it or not. There is very few people that actually rort the system. Just remember. **** happens. It usually happens when you can least afford it to happen.
any thats why people need to be responsible with their money. You dont live pay check to pay check.

[ed316]

Pure unadultered Capitolism

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Pure unadultered Capitolism

I wouldent expect anything else from you.

p-)

[Uncle-Howie]

any thats why people need to be responsible with their money. You dont live pay check to pay check.

True when you actually have a pay check :roll:

[ed316]

I wouldent expect anything else from you.

p-)

without Capitalism your latex fetish would only be a dream. Kind of doubt that the commune will waste their time making latex for S&M

[wulfstan]

I agree that in the West you generally get what you work for, cos i am lazy and have little.

But seriously, some of the arguements are flawed here. How does a 3rd World peasant say, start up a dot com industry? Why does he continue to peddle sh!tty wares on some market stall for pennies?

People who have everything already always say 'why don't you just go and do....?'

Your visions of socialism are confused. Anything east of say Austria would be a bad example of Socialism. Anything north of Denmark would be good examples.

[Hawkeye]

That divorced mother made VERY big mistakes early in life..... You want to know how? She did not get any education (college) and she had 3 lazy kids with a looser who left her and will end up paying through his ass for child support. Personally I don't care about others people mistakes in life and for sure I don't want to work my ass off paying for them either.

Listen up you prick, my dad left out on me and my mom when I was 5 months old. He pays everything he has to, and more.
My mom studied, she got education, she got chances. I'm not lazy, I'm 15 and I already had a job.

You really believe you know all about life don't you?! I hope a bullet get's stuck between your eyes.



If your lazy then that also explains why you're poor, no? I think it goes hand with hand.
Lazy= Poor.
Retard + Lazy= poor.
In capitalism all have the opportunity to be NOT poor, it you are poor then most likely then not it's your choice.
This can't be true, you're a damn retard, and you claim to be rich. No, really, life is about chances. What about Africa you asshole? People work their asses of there and many, many people still die there every day. I recently heard an official poverty-rating in the US (was an American show btw, no propaganda) and it was about 10 million. That's right, 10 million, thats as much as Belgium. They were talking about the region around Chicago where people have as good as nothing. They all want jobs, they go look for one every single day. There aren't any. They don't even have running water! Don't you just love America?


I really don't understand how you can truely support capitalism. Think about it. Why are so many people dying of hunger? Globalisation, caused by capitalism. Big firms have monopolies, they have money (capital), they have the power to exploit people (connections to politics).



You do not want to know what went through my mind after reading that post.
Same here, but this gets close;

http://scannerpagina.stophier.nl/frame_files/pistool.jpg

[Uncle-Howie]

Stay cool Hawkeye, they're less than nothing.
In fact they post like my 12 years old neighbour, so I don't give a **** about their "poor = lazy" theory.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

No.... They were born under screwd up governemts, most likely socialist system.

And for the rest of you looser, Go ahead give those negative reps, I don't give a damn about...... What a bunch of nerds, just because I think better they want to give me negative reps, go ahead knock yourselves out. rofl

Not me. I NEVER get into dishing out bad reps. I'll give you a positive rep to balance it.
Even though you called me a loser.

[Weasel]

Stay cool Hawkeye, they're less than nothing.
In fact they post like my 12 years old neighbour, so I don't give a **** about their "poor = lazy" theory.

Well said.

[sergey31]

Listen up you prick, my dad left out on me and my mom when I was 5 months old. He pays everything he has to, and more.
My mom studied, she got education, she got chances. I'm not lazy, I'm 15 and I already had a job.

You really believe you know all about life don't you?! I hope a bullet get's stuck between your eyes.
Listen yourself dumbass looser, I don't give a shiyte about your dad living your mom. How is it my problem genius? He paid and so what? Good for you that you got your job at 15, WTF? So what? I got my freelance job when I was 12 and then at 16 and?
Well I hope you junk of car gets stuck on the train track.




This can't be true, you're a damn retard, and you claim to be rich. No, really, life is about chances. What about Africa you asshole? People work their asses of there and many, many people still die there every day. I recently heard an official poverty-rating in the US (was an American show btw, no propaganda) and it was about 10 million. That's right, 10 million, thats as much as Belgium. They were talking about the region around Chicago where people have as good as nothing. They all want jobs, they go look for one every single day. There aren't any. They don't even have running water! Don't you just love America?
No you're a dumb retard, I don't claim to be rich but I rather claim to be not poor, learn to read or go back to school.
What about Africa? Are they capitalist? Too bad isn't it?
10 million he? I'm sure I'm not in those 10 million. That is complete BS, people want jobs here, well they can find jobs dumbass. It's lazy ass government special democrat breed of welfare good for nothing rejects that live on government handouts. I couldn't fuking care less about those lazy ass bums.
Yes, I love living in America and once again thank God I'm not one of those lazy bums.
Fuk, look at Mexicans, they are risking their life to cross the borders just so they can work for a few dollars an hour and they love it and think very fortunate to do it, meanwhile we have a lazy retard who wants free government money.



I really don't understand how you can truely support capitalism. Think about it. Why are so many people dying of hunger? Globalisation, caused by capitalism. Big firms have monopolies, they have money (capital), they have the power to exploit people (connections to politics).
Nonsense, U.S only helps all those third world countries nonstop. America (U.S) did not cause all the inbreed, hatred, ethnic cleansing wars and the rest of shyte that goes on in Africa. That's what pisses me off, they all blame U.S even after we keep helping them....... How in the Fuk does U.S exploits people in Africa and their agricultural and tribal societies?
Go back to school otherwise you sound like a retard.

You are truly a one of a kind, maybe you should go to Africa and feed all those poor people.
And

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because capitalist made it possible.

[Hawkeye]

I didn't even read the entire post you just made.
Is this MP.net?


later guys

[sergey31]

Not me. I NEVER get into dishing out bad reps. I'll give you a positive rep to balance it.
Even though you called me a loser.

If you read carefully I never called you a looser..... Those who gave me bad reps just because I think differently...I called Those.
But thanks, I'm not into reps like some people here. It doesn't meant anything but at least don't be a coward and put your name next to it if your so into passing them out.

[Conga]

sergey31:
Sure you have more possibilities in capatalism than in communism, for example when my dad got fired he started his own little firm. But not everyone has the possibility of doing well in the econemy and there are a thousand reasons why that might be. The divorced mother was just one example.
I think everybody wants to hold a decent job and the amount of unemployed that are really lazy and enjoy living on welfare is very little.

[elguapo]

I´ll go with Feudalism.