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fantassin
02-19-2004, 03:06 PM
France and Russia agree: Soyuz will launch from Kourou in French Guyana

On Monday, 6 October 2003, Russian Prime Minister Mikhaïl Kassianov and French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin finalised an agreement that will see the Russia Soyuz rocket launched from the European spaceport in Kourou.

The Russian rockets will be transported to French Guyana, in South America, by French ‘river-sea’ boats, announced Rosaviakosmos spokesman Sergey Gorbounov. “The rockets will be moved in pieces as it is impossible to transport them fully assembled by ship,” he said. In addition, some Soyuz components will be packed in special containers and loaded onto the boats on railcars.

According to Gorbounov, the Russians are confident that the French ferries can do the job, making it possible to transport two complete disassembled launchers at once, saving both time and money.

The decision on the project comes after resolution of a number of technical and economic matters. The European Space Agency (ESA) played a key role in the negotiations.

The space centre at Kourou has already identified a launch site at Malmanoury, six kilometres from the Ariane-5 launch pad. It may now take up to three years before the technical preparations are complete.

The Soyuz launcher, an offspring of the R-7 ballistic missile, is the most used and the most reliable launcher in the world, with some 1700 launches of satellites or manned flights since the first Sputnik was put into orbit in 1957 and since the first man, Yuri Gagarin, was sent into space in 1961. Since 1996, the Franco-Russian company, Starsem, has been marketing the Soyuz launcher, which is routinely launched from the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan

Satellite Weapon
10-24-2006, 04:31 PM
Looks like its going ahead

update :
http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/2739/
Russian booster Soyuz will set French civilian satellites into orbit; it is to be launched from the base KURU (French Guiana), said the Minister of Economic affairs, Finance and Industry of France Tierry Breton.

Ghetto Defendant
10-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Is this done in order to launch heavier payloads? I understand it takes less fuel to obtain orbit when launching near the equator.

solidarnosc
10-24-2006, 05:24 PM
Is this done in order to launch heavier payloads? I understand it takes less fuel to obtain orbit when launching near the equator.

Ariane Space currently doesnt have a cheap launch platform to launch small/medium loads into space and Russia doesn't have a launching platform near the equator where it is easier/cheaper to launch sattelites.

Satellite Weapon
10-24-2006, 05:29 PM
Is this done in order to launch heavier payloads? I understand it takes less fuel to obtain orbit when launching near the equator.
That and other reasons, the Soyuz is a fantastic rocket which launched unmanned Progress ships to keep the ISS afloat after the Shuttle disaster and is able to fly manned missions as well as unmanned spacecraft to other planets (Shuttle can only fly into Low Earth orbit and no longer launches payloads beyond Earth). The Soyuz already launches from Plesetsk in Russia and Baikonur Kazakhstan, a Kourou launch pad will allow the Ruskies to get a foothold in latin America which is politically is already drifting to the left. There is big business in space, Lockheed has won billion dollar contracts from NASA and Boeing makes billions in commercial launch services. The pad in French Guiana will eventually have the Ariane for heavy, Soyuz for medium and Vega for lightweight launches. Those who can provide countries like Brazil, Argentina and Peru with launches of broadcasting sats and enviornmental satellites will make big money.The Frogs and the Ruskies are working on a joint Saturn-V type launcher under the Oural program, French-Russian Oural (Ural) effort could see them beat the USA's current space program and perhaps the first men on Mars will be Russian, French or Chinese rather than Americans ( we must also consider that the 50th anniversary of Armstrong's landing comes in 2019 and the question remains who could get to Mars first). There are of course military implications for all of this, I suspect Hugo Chavez will be jumping up and down with delight when Soyuz takes off from South America.

Ddavid
10-24-2006, 05:33 PM
Larger payload, or more interesting -because there aren't that many very large satellites- less fuel, who is expensive.

Flamming_Python
10-24-2006, 05:50 PM
Interesting to see this develop.

Russia has an independent Mars program, but seems to be reaching out to the Chinese to co-operate with them, and now the French as well.

I'd love to see a joint French-Russian program personally.

As for the Soyuz, apparently there are plans to extensively modernise it. In addition, the development of the Clipper (next-generation Russian space shuttle) and another type of spaceship is also under way.

Satellite Weapon
10-26-2006, 04:38 PM
ESA to take part in Russian Mars experiment
http://en.rian.ru/world/20061024/55098533.html
MOSCOW, October 24 (RIA Novosti) - The European Space Agency has decided to take part in a Russian simulated flight to Mars, and two Europeans could be among the volunteers, a Russian scientist said Tuesday.
The Institute of Medical and Biological Issues in northern Moscow, the venue for the Mars-500 experiment that will last 520 days has received applications from more than 120 people from 21 countries