Identify This Nade Launcher!

[Createdeemcee]

Can someone Tell me the exact name of this russian model grenade launcher?



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Please provide how this GL works if possible, any info will be appreciated!

[Ghostwolf]

GP-25 40mm grenade launcher

http://club.guns.ru/eng/gp25.html

[eucalyptus]

http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2463&catid=339&image=1345

[Impulse_t0]

GP-25 it is!

[Createdeemcee]

You guys are the best, Thanks Alot!

[Abolith]

Damn I thought for sure it was a GP-30 :oops: :oops:

[thatguy96]

From what I've been led to believe the BG-15, GP-25 and GP-30 are all essentially the same weapon, and its the mount that differs, allowing the different models to fit different weapons.

[GazB]

From what I've been led to believe the BG-15, GP-25 and GP-30 are all essentially the same weapon, and its the mount that differs, allowing the different models to fit different weapons.

No. It is not the grenade launchers that are made to fit different models of AK. It is the AKs that are modified to take any of the grenade launchers. I am pretty sure the BG-15 and the GP-25 are the same weapon.

If you look at an AK-74 you will see what appears to be two bayonet lugs. The rear lug is in a similar postion to the bayonet lug on the AKM and AK-47 and is used to fit the GP-25 or GP-30 grenade launcher to the weapon. The front lug on the AK-74 is to fit the AK-74s bayonet which sits further forward due to the large muzzle attachment. (Note while it is not possible to fit both a grenade launcher and a bayonet on an AKM and AK-47 due to there just being one lug you can fit both on the AK-74... you just shouldn't).

The GP-30 is slightly smaller and lighter than the GP-25 and is easy to distinguish because it doesn't have anything projecting back past the small pistol grip fitted, whereas the GP-25 has a hole in the pistol grip and a metal bar that extends almost back to the rifles magazine as seen in the photos above.

Both weapons are muzzle loaded and come with a range of ammo... including a new HEAT round and an old bounding round for airburst at any range.

[haze99]

BG-15 was the Western designation given to the USSR GP-25 when it first appeared. The GP-30 is an improved model. Bulgaria and Serbia now manufacture their own copy of the GP-30.

Romanian & Poland use a more "M-203"-looking launcher. (As well, as a South African firm, although the D*** thing hangs way to low of the rifle!)

[Catch22]

Polish wz.74 Pallad underbarrel Grenade launcher is crap ergonomically-wise, its only brighter point is that it can fire wide variety of 40mm ammunition both NATO and other - just like HK AG36, while 203 cant do that, cause ot its short chamber locking. But Pallad's self-standing version named wz. 83 is small and handy and much more useful than the underbarrel one.

Bulgaria, Czech republic and Romania use something more along the lines of 203.

[GazB]

But Pallad's self-standing version named wz. 83 is small and handy and much more useful than the underbarrel one.


The Russians also have a 6 barrel rotary grenade launcher and a pump action 43mm grenade launcher with a 3 round mag too. My favourite Russian grenade launcher would ahve to be the Arbelet prototype. It uses the high velocity 30mm grenades from the ASG-17 and has a 10 round drum and a max range of 1.7km. Shoulder firing would probably be quite fierce.

[ArmyJonHall]

Jesus look how short the barrel is! It must only be a little longer than the round that fits in there! The accuracy at range must be terrible.

[GazB]

Jesus look how short the barrel is! It must only be a little longer than the round that fits in there! The accuracy at range must be terrible.

Both are rifled weapons with special parts on the side of the grenades to engage the rifling. Such a large round does not need to be spun rapidly to stabilise it... long narrow projectiles need a high rate of turn... the 5.45mm Soviet rifle round spins at over 4,000 revolutions per second, but short fat rounds like these grenades need a lower rate of turn or they will wobble in flight. In the case these grenade launchers a longer barrel would not effect accuracy, it would just moderately increase velocity and extend range slightly. (And a rifleman would rarely engage targets at further than 2-300m with his rifle, I doubt he need to engage targets with a grenade at more than the 400m range of these weapons).

Western experts I have read about using the GP-25 say they could, after less than a dozen practice shots put a round in a window at 150m with no problems. (presumably without cross winds I guess).