Canadian Liberal Election Ad

[marty649]

This is why Canada's military has fallen into disrepair under Liberal rule. There are left wing nuts that think this way.....

http://www.stephentaylor.ca/liberalattack.wmv

[sir-chimp]

Interesting, thanks for posting this. Can some Canadian members shed anymore light on this?

[Johnny_H02]

Rediculous, our Politicians are all slime

[Roy Batty]

Thats why we need a new government in a few weeks. The current one is out of touch with reality.

[nognig]

This video shows how the Liberals are deperate for the extreme-left vote. Steven Harper's suggestion of increasing military presence in cities had to do with forming an effective military, not creating a legion of brownshirts.

The sad thing is, a lot of people in Canada see this ad and say "Ahh hah! I knew it!!"

NN

[nognig]

Rediculous, our Politicians are all slime

I haven't seen the Conservative Party come out with attacks ads like that, or the NDP. What do you mean by "all"?

NN

[babydave]

how did these guys get in? either they have superb domestic policies or there a lot of canadians that need to wake up

[alexz]

Seems to me like some one is desperate. I rermember the left in Israel
accused Sharon of curroption days before the election and it backfired big time, made him look like a victim and he won even more sympathy votes.
Why do people make the same mistakes time after time?

[alexz]

Seems to me like some one is desperate. I rermember the left in Israel
accused Sharon of curroption days before the election and it backfired big time, made him look like a victim and he won even more sympathy votes.
Why do people make the same mistakes time after time?

[rhino]

This is why Canada's military has fallen into disrepair under Liberal rule. There are left wing nuts that think this way.....

http://www.stephentaylor.ca/liberalattack.wmv

rofl I head about the add in 680News, but the discussion at the end just made my day a whole lot better!!!:)

[sir-chimp]

Who is the **** head in the glasses?

[vryhpyammoadded]

And some Canadians are actually ignorant enough to fall for this kind of melodramatic BS? If in any significant number; I worry for Canada.

[Rictor]

Yes, the ad in scaremongering. And it's overly dramatic. But the military should not be deployed domestically outside of a crisis situation. That's what the police it for. These two are seperate almost everywhere in the world, and for a reason. I don't think it's the opinion of only left-wingers that the military should be used for actions abroad, not at home (in normal cases, not talking about martial law and so on).

[alexz]

What is the size of the Canadian armed forces?

[ed316]

What is the size of the Canadian armed forces?

with 60,000 regular troops and 20,000 reserves.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnmilitary/operations.html

[andyrew_21]

i hope the conservatives get the liberals down and stomp on em

[Kingswat]

how did these guys get in? either they have superb domestic policies or there a lot of canadians that need to wake up

Because they are good for the economy, if the conservatives get in canada becomes a mini USA. Harper = Bush's lapdog.

[anv2]

The sad thing is, a lot of people in Canada see this ad and say "Ahh hah! I knew it!!"


Will they really? I don't know much about Canadian politics, but from my point of view this kind of ad works only on a few hardcore communists while alienating everyone else.

What kind of military presence are we even talking about? If it's about having few hundred troops near major cities to maintain basic crisis readiness, it doesn't sound like a major issue. Then again, if it's about having military patrols in city centres, I can understand the disagreement.

[speckfire]

Now that's a new low from the Lieberal govm't.

I remember 3 instances where they called the Army.

1. October crisis
2. Snow in Toronto
3. Ice storm

[rhino]

Who is the **** head in the glasses?

ok, took some time to find out, that would be John Duffy, writer, liberal lobbiest and strategist, he is free lance advisor. Aparently the whole episode is making news, 640Mojo is the best!

[Roy Batty]

Because they are good for the economy, if the conservatives get in canada becomes a mini USA. Harper = Bush's lapdog.

That's a very narrow minded view. Harper may be the wests "lapdog" but it's about time they get some representation anyway.

[DnA]

Now that's a new low from the Lieberal govm't.

I remember 3 instances where they called the Army.

1. October crisis
2. Snow in Toronto
3. Ice storm

Forest Fires in BC

[Roy Batty]

Forest Fires in BC

Floods in Manitoba....

Picking up the bodies from Swissair flight 111 in Peggy's Cove. (alot of PTSD cases from that)

[Chairborne_Ranger]

Here's a question - What are the chances the CBC will change it's ultra leftist leaning ways under a conservative government? Will they ever get rid of that America hating MuchMusic VJ that hosts the CBC news hour?

[Roy Batty]

Here's a question - What are the chances the CBC will change it's ultra leftist leaning ways under a conservative government? Will they ever get rid of that America hating MuchMusic VJ that hosts the CBC news hour?

It would'nt be all that suprizing if the Conservatives just did away with the CBC as a whole. I can think of way better uses for the money anyway.

[Chairborne_Ranger]

It would'nt be all that suprizing if the Conservatives just did away with the CBC as a whole. I can think of way better uses for the money anyway.

Exactly, maybe with that money our Army can finally have real attack helicopters.

[EvanL]

I know the conservatives will sweep my neighbourhood. All I see out on peoples lawns is blue and white. Ive seen one liberal sign and thats it. I see the occasional NDP sign, but its not like that matters anyways. :P

[-CROAT-SOLDIER-]

Well I personally hate liberals I dont like any of them I also think military expansion in canada is a good thing.Soldiers in my city of Hamilton? would be awsome shoot up some of those kids with guns I couldent relley care,Those wiggers would **** there pants when they get in a fire fight against one of them:P.

[Roy Batty]

The military stared voting today and you can probably guess where most of those votes went.. ;)

[EvanL]

The military stared voting today and you can probably guess where most of those votes went.. ;)
I don't know many people in my riding who are going to be voting liberal. The conservative candidate in my riding is French, so that helps alot because it's a French area. He was actually an ex-liberal who left the liberal party because he said he was tired of all the corruption among it. He most certainly gets my vote.

[RobCanada]

i am pretty sure the CF is pro tory thats forsure! and the Lapdog post made me lol. I guess its wrong to be friend to your most important trade partner weird eh?

[sir-chimp]

i am pretty sure the CF is pro tory thats forsure! and the Lapdog post made me lol. I guess its wrong to be friend to your most important trade partner weird eh?

Its only a lap dog when there is a US and Canadian conservative governments in power, if both are liberals - well then its just good allies.

[Roy Batty]

Its only a lap dog when there is a US and Canadian conservative governments in power, if both are liberals - well then its just good allies.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sir-chimp again."

I owe you a few for that one man. Laughing my ass off.

[EvanL]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sir-chimp again."

I owe you a few for that one man. Laughing my ass off.
ohh yeh, well scooby doo can doo doo, but jimmy carter is smarter!!

[thegman]

i just watched the clip and the younger guy at the end just got a verbal ***** slap.

[sir-chimp]

Who is that younger guy? Is he a party affiliate or is he just a talking head they brought in.

[EvanL]

I keep trying to view it but when i click on the link it just brings me to a page full of script and it freezes my browser.

[sir-chimp]

weird it works fine for me, must be that Canadian censorship in action

[EvanL]

weird it works fine for me, must be that Canadian censorship in action
Download it and send it my way.

[Rictor]

weird it works fine for me, must be that Canadian censorship in action

Censorship, sure. Just right-click > Save As, I had the same problem.

And in a pretty stunning turn of events, the Tories are actually ahead in polls. I never thought I'de see the day. I seems they may even be far enough ahead to form a majority government.

[sir-chimp]

Censorship, sure. Just right-click > Save As, I had the same problem.

.


omg you think its censorship too? we must join together to fight it

[sir-chimp]

http://x.flurl.com/2006/Jan/11/38909.jpg (http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Canadian_Liberal_Gets_Owned_38909.html)

Evan try this if you cant download it.

Fight censorship! f_uck the man!!!!!!!

[EvanL]

Wow what a cheap ad.
On a sidenote. The bald guys name is Mike Duffy he is a host for CTV. He's actually a good friend of our family.

[speckfire]

Wow what a cheap ad.
On a sidenote. The bald guys name is Mike Duffy he is a host for CTV. He's actually a good friend of our family.

Tell Mike thank you for that bitch-slapping he gave the Lib Duffy :)

[EvanL]

Tell Mike thank you for that bitch-slapping he gave the Lib Duffy :)
the liberal guys name isn't duffy.
I dont know what it is.

[speckfire]

the liberal guys name isn't duffy.
I dont know what it is.


Are you sure?? Look

Liberal strategist John Duffy and CTV's Mike Duffy square off following the French language debate in Montreal.

From Duffy vs Duffy

http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/video.html

[EvanL]

Are you sure?? Look

Liberal strategist John Duffy and CTV's Mike Duffy square off following the French language debate in Montreal.

From Duffy vs Duffy

http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2006/video.html
Ok good call.
I thought maybe somebody got the names mixed up.. good call.

[andyrew_21]

Censorship, sure. Just right-click > Save As, I had the same problem.

And in a pretty stunning turn of events, the Tories are actually ahead in polls. I never thought I'de see the day. I seems they may even be far enough ahead to form a majority government.

Never Trust the polls my friend. Most of us are rootin' for the Tories and i hope they get in but its not over till the fat lady sings.

[Roy Batty]

From today's headlines. The PM is back peddeling and it sounds phoney as hell.

STORY:
Liberal Leader Paul Martin said on Thursday he supports the military, and denied an ad pulled by the party was intended as an attack on the Armed Forces.

Speaking in Markham, Ont., where he promised $180 million in new money to support leading-edge research and technology, Martin told reporters the ad has been misunderstood.

The ad features an ominous drumbeat underneath a voiceover that says: "Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities. Canadian cities. Soldiers with guns. In our cities. In Canada."


The ad was intended to criticize the Conservatives' policy because it would spread soldiers too far apart across the country, Martin said.

"We want to have a critical mass," Martin said. "That would allow large numbers of soldiers to respond to natural disasters at home or to security crises abroad."

Martin said he supports the military.

Martin kept his prepared remarks to the day's announcement, and to the country's burgeoning economy and his government's role in creating it, his focus from earlier in the campaign.

"Canada quite simply must be at the forefront of the innovation economy...," he said.

"Government helps when it works with great educational institutions, when it works with the private sector, when it works with others to invest in research and development and the commercialization that flows from it."


Source:http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2006/01/12/elxn-libs-research-military.html

He was worried that we would be to spread out??? Yah that's just exactly what that sounded like. This guy is falling and fast. Every week someone brings yet more crap forward that they have tried to pull.

[Roy Batty]

B.C. Liberal blames military ad on an 'idiot'
Last Updated Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:59:22 EST
CBC News
The Liberal candidate in Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca has apologized for this week's release of a Liberal TV ad targeting the Conservatives' defence policies.


The ad suggested that a Stephen Harper government would put "soldiers with guns" on the streets of Canadian cities.

On Wednesday night, Liberal incumbent Keith Martin apologized at an all-candidates debate in the Victoria suburb of Colwood. He told the crowd the ad was a gross error that does not represent the Liberals' view of the military.

He said the ad was one of a series of 12 and it should never have been released.

"Some idiot went and sent it out with the other 11 ads, and it was never sanctioned by the party, never approved, and we are completely appalled that this went out. We apologize to the men and women in the uniform," he said.

The Liberals pulled the ad just hours after it was released to the media earlier this week, saying it was a mistake.

The ad targeted the Conservatives' proposal to set up small army battalions in cities across Canada, that would be used to help out in emergencies such as natural disasters.

Martin's riding of Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca includes thousands of military voters, and is home to Canada's Pacific naval fleet at CFB Esquimalt.

Martin is a former Reformer and Conservative who joined the Liberals before the last election.

Source: www.cbc.ca

I think someone might be job hunting on the 24th. Esquimalt is a very military town.

[Resevoir Hogs]

As a Canadian soldier I can say I am personally offended by this ad. It suggests that military forces located in or near Canadian cities are somehow a danger to Canada.

Fact is we swear an oath to protect this democracy and it is because of us that people have the freedom to vote and make ****ty ads like this.

The Prime Minister read and approved this ad and he should publicly appologize for it EVERY time he is asked about it on tv.

The Liberals have securely LOST my vote for the next couple decades and will continue to lose it unless they sort their heads out.

[Roy Batty]

Controversial Liberal attack ad spawns series of spoofs

By MARTIN O’HANLON




OTTAWA (CP) - Is Stephen Harper an evil galactic warlord? Is he a Bible-thumping Bush backer? We don't know. He won't say. And by the way, we are definitely making this up.

Not everyone is fuming over a controversial Liberal ad that warns Conservative Leader Stephen Harper would put troops in city streets - a lot of people find it quite amusing.

It has already spawned a series of spoofs by everyone from Internet bloggers to Tory insiders.

Conservative MPs were frothing at the mouth Wednesday when the ad was released, claiming it insults Canada's troops by suggesting they pose a threat to democracy. But behind the scenes, things were decidedly less serious.

Within hours of the release, this mock copy was making the rounds in Tory circles:

"Stephen Harper has a dog. You know who else had a dog? Hitler. Adolf Hitler. That's who. Did Stephen Harper train his dog to attack racial minorities on command? We don't know. He's not saying. Choose your Canada."

The original ad, which Liberals say was pulled before it ever ran on television, opens with the sound of a military drumbeat and Harper's blurred face in the background.

As the face comes slowly into focus, a voice warns ominously:

"Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities. Canadian cities. Soldiers with guns. In our cities. In Canada. We did not make this up. Choose your Canada."

The daily news magazine Dose wasted no time tickling readers' funny bones. It published several takeoffs in Thursday's edition, including this lighthearted gem:

"Stephen Harper likes to wear black. You know who else liked black? Darth Vader? We're not making this up."

It was a veritable comedy field day on the Internet. Check out this offering from the weblog of Maclean's columnist Paul Wells:

"Just now at the Subway on Bank Street, I was buying my lunch and there . . . in line . . . standing in front of me . . . was a soldier. In our cities. In Canada. A soldier. He seemed to be ordering the six-inch ham and turkey. With chipotle sauce. In Canada. We're not making this stuff up."

And here's another laugh-out-loud version being circulated among Conservatives:

"Stephen Harper wears glasses. For reading. You know what he reads? The Bible. You know who else reads the Bible? George Bush. Will Stephen Harper turn Canada into a Christian theocracy? We don't know. He isn't saying. Choose your Canada."

Of course, some people can be forgiven for refusing to acknowledge the humour of the situation - especially Liberal MP Keith Martin.

Martin's riding includes CFB Esquimalt, headquarters of Canada's Pacific naval fleet, and he doesn't want to offend the military - it could cost him his job.

He blamed an "idiot" in the party for allowing the release of the original ad. He called it "appalling" and apologized to members of the military who were offended.

Prime Minister Paul Martin said the ad was not meant to target soldiers.

"I support our military," he said. "I've probably put more money into the military than almost any prime minister . . . (The ads have) nothing to do with soldiers."




That last paragraph just makes me fume. He is back peddaling like mad.

[Resevoir Hogs]

Ha yea I heard one of those spoofs on the way home from the local Conservative cadidate office. It gave me a laugh.

[Roy Batty]

Havent heard any apology from the Liberal in this area and considering we are home to a brigade I find that odd.

[EvanL]

Havent heard any apology from the Liberal in this area and considering we are home to a brigade I find that odd.
I thought the conservatives won your area last election. The whole pembroke-renfrew-prescott-pettawawa area went torrey i though.

[Apathy]

That was a pretty ****ty advertisement.

Soldiers in our cities.
With guns.
Real guns.



Wow! Soldiers have guns! Not just guns, but REAL guns. I never knew this before. Thank you liberals for enlightening us on such a baffling mystery.

[Roy Batty]

I thought the conservatives won your area last election. The whole pembroke-renfrew-prescott-pettawawa area went torrey i though.
It is Tory but you would sort of expect an appology from the local Liberal if they hope for any votes.

[Resevoir Hogs]

My local liberal said that "It wasn't run so what's the problem? How can you all be offended by a ad we chose not to run?!"

Yea except she doesn't say that it has been running in Quebec and that it WAS sent out to the major news outlets and posted on the liberal website.

A simple appology is what I demand.

[Bombtrack]

The CF is owed a huge apology. After Martin goes to NDHQ and several bases, shaking hands with troops, the grits turn around and make this bull**** ad? I hope they get their asses kicked out of parliament on Jan 23rd.

[EvanL]

The CF is owed a huge apology. After Martin goes to NDHQ and several bases, shaking hands with troops, the grits turn around and make this bull**** ad? I hope they get their asses kicked out of parliament on Jan 23rd.
I'm pretty sure they will be buddy.
Everyone is fed up with them.

[sir-chimp]

The CF is owed a huge apology. After Martin goes to NDHQ and several bases, shaking hands with troops, the grits turn around and make this bull**** ad? I hope they get their asses kicked out of parliament on Jan 23rd.


No no no, that was "some idiot" he had no hand in it - he loves the Canadian armed forces. In others news John Kerry let it be known that he likes to goose hunt.

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/1917/kerrygoose0wi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Threelions]

we can all be pissy about the ad, or we can look at it from a canadian persepective. by nature, i would say the canadian way of life is fairly non-violent, and we are in no ways a militaristic nation. That is what the ad is playing on. Its a well stated point, that will go against the way most canadians feel about the military, and their civilian lives.

Why take offence to this ad? Its a political campign, all sides are as bad as each other, and if you choose to vote based on ads then you are a sorry excuse for a responsible citizen.

Cheers,
Paul "Still a monarchist, cause all political parties are rubbish"

[sir-chimp]

Why take offence to this ad? Its a political campign, all sides are as bad as each other, and if you choose to vote based on ads then you are a sorry excuse for a responsible citizen.






If this ad had been attacking any other segment of Canadian society I would bet you would be singing a different tune.

[Roy Batty]

If this ad had been attacking any other segment of Canadian society I would bet you would be singing a different tune.

"Nobody loves a soldier till the enemy is at the back gate." My father told me that for years before I joined my chosen (and beloved) profession.

[Resevoir Hogs]

we can all be pissy about the ad, or we can look at it from a canadian persepective. by nature, i would say the canadian way of life is fairly non-violent, and we are in no ways a militaristic nation. That is what the ad is playing on. Its a well stated point, that will go against the way most canadians feel about the military, and their civilian lives.

Why take offence to this ad? Its a political campign, all sides are as bad as each other, and if you choose to vote based on ads then you are a sorry excuse for a responsible citizen.

Cheers,
Paul "Still a monarchist, cause all political parties are rubbish"

A. Not all parties are as bad as the Liberals. I respect any vote for any party other than theirs.

I will tell you why I am offended. Because, the Liberal party is implying that Canadian troops close to or in Canadian cities are a danger to our civil liberties. This is a blatant lie and a insult to myself and other service members.

I made up my mind on not voting for the liberals long before the ad was released, the ad was just the icing on the cake for my well thought out and educated decision on who to vote for. Being personally insulted by a political party sort of has the effect, go figure.

[Roy Batty]

A quote taken from A CBC interview with the Prime Minister. He can't make up his mind if he approved that ad or not.:( for non-Canadians, Peter Mansbridge is the CBC's top news anchor )




Peter Mansbridge: Tonight, it's Liberal Leader Paul Martin who has joined us here at the River Run Centre in Guelph, Ontario. He'll be taking questions from our viewers, but before we begin, a few words about how we selected the questioners. We asked viewers to let us know what they'd like to ask the political leaders, and most were selected from that group. But we also asked a research firm to provide us with a representative group of Canadians. We also used that pool. And one last note: Paul Martin does not know what he's about to be asked. So let's get to the first question, and it's right here in the room here in Guelph. Go ahead.

Sophie Cheney (Campbellville, Ontario): My name is Sophie Cheney and I'm from Campbellville, Ontario. I was listening to the debates on Monday evening, and you mentioned that the other leaders were - your words were drive-by smear was how you described how they were attacking you, and you mentioned that the Canadians wanted to hear about the issues that were important to Canada's future. The very next day, the Liberal Party unveiled a series of American-style attack ads, and I'd like to know why you chose to do that.

Paul Martin: Well, in fact, if you take a look, they were really not attack ads. What they were were essentially quotes of Stephen Harper's or positions that he had taken, and this election, I think we've got to be very clear, is about a very different set of values between Mr. Harper and myself. And it's important, I believe, that Canadians understand the values of the prime minister that they're going to choose, and so what we simply set out were Mr. Harper's positions. And this morning, you may have seen, he confirmed that everything that he has said, the positions he's taken over the course of the last 10 years he stands behind. So that when Mr. Harper for the sake of discussion addresses a far-right U.S. conservative group, as he did, and says that they're a light and inspiration to Canadians and that we're second-rate, then I think it's fair to say to Mr. Harper, explain what you're saying, and I think that political leaders have to stand behind the positions that they have taken.

Peter Mansbridge: Do you accept that?

Sophie Cheney: No, I'm afraid I don't, because I think you should be talking about what your program is for Canadians and letting us make the decision as to where the leaders stand and that's what CBC helps us to do is to try and evaluate the different platforms in an unbiased way.

Paul Martin: Well, I think that's fair, but what I then did after that is I did, I set out, for instance, our child-care program and essentially pointed out what we believe. Now, Mr. Harper has also set out his, which is very different. I set out our program in terms of helping students with tuition. You may or may not be aware, for instance, we have said we'll pay up to $3,000 a year, one-half of students’ first tuition at university and college and one-half over the last year. I think that's a very important part of the debate, but I think what you have to have is the opposition leaders have to respond to your positions as, in fact, I will respond to the positions that they take. Stephen Harper today, for instance, said he will withdraw from Kyoto. I don't agree with that position, and so I will state my position on Kyoto, but I will do it in the context of what he would do as well.

Peter Mansbridge: All right, thank you. We've come a long way, though, from the preamble of the question, which was about attack ads. You said they weren't attack ads. Most people accept that they were negative ads, just like the Tories have run some negative ads. A question came up today about whether or not you'd approve them. You said you had, this latest run of ads. Does approving them mean you actually saw these ads before they were released first to a web site and then pulled back? Did you actually see them?

Paul Martin: Sure, or I would have seen a transcript. Look, I approved those ads. There is no doubt about that.

Peter Mansbridge: But when you looked at the military ad, I mean, I've heard your explanation today that it's really about a difference in policies, about where you'd base troops, did you actually think that that's what it was about when you saw it or read the transcript? Does it really come across that way to an ordinary viewer?

Paul Martin: Your question is a very good one. I think it's important to explain that my view is that if there's going to be a natural disaster, I'm very supportive of the military, and I believe that we've got to - I've increased their salaries, I think we've got to increase their numbers. I think they play a tremendous role, and domestically, they play a huge role in terms of disaster relief, and Gen. Hillier, the head of the chief of defence staff, has said he wants them to be positioned where there's a critical mass. Mr. Harper and I have a difference of opinion. He thinks they should be spread out across the country. The problem is you don't want to spend two weeks or two days gathering people together. Now, the point…

Peter Mansbridge: I don't want to dwell on that point…

Paul Martin: I would like to answer your question, if I could, Peter.

Peter Mansbridge: The question is very straightforward. Those ads don't talk anything about policy but where troops will be based on a policy area. It comes across as soldiers in Canadian cities, on the streets with guns at a time when guns on streets is a major issue.

Paul Martin: But that's the reason the ad never showed. We withdrew the ad because absolutely, you're right.

Peter Mansbridge: But you approved it.

Paul Martin: No, I didn't approve it. That's what happened. The ad was prepared. I don't prepare the ads. The ad was prepared and then immediately upon seeing it, we said, this ad is going to be misconstrued. And that's why it was pulled. That ad never appeared and I think it's really important to understand that. People saw that ad, but you've not seen it on your television. It appeared in a blog, and they pulled it right away.

Peter Mansbridge: It's actually on your web site and they were delivered to television stations, but aside from that, you had seen a script and you approved the original script.

Paul Martin: But then when we saw what the ad looked like, it was very clear that the message that we were trying to convey was not going to be conveyed by that ad and we pulled it.

[Resevoir Hogs]

I just heard on the radio that Harper has a dog!!

http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/index/weblog/3490/

Oh and here's what Liberal Leader Paul Martin had to say on the national about said ad.

http://www.proudtobecanadian.ca/blog/index/weblog/3499/

[Threelions]

If this ad had been attacking any other segment of Canadian society I would bet you would be singing a different tune.

I bet you i wouldnt. Its a political campaign and i dont think there is much point in being pissy about the ads that BOTH sides spit out.

This is exactly why i say partisan politics dont work.

Cheers,
Paul

[Threelions]

A. Not all parties are as bad as the Liberals. I respect any vote for any party other than theirs.

I will tell you why I am offended. Because, the Liberal party is implying that Canadian troops close to or in Canadian cities are a danger to our civil liberties. This is a blatant lie and a insult to myself and other service members.

I made up my mind on not voting for the liberals long before the ad was released, the ad was just the icing on the cake for my well thought out and educated decision on who to vote for. Being personally insulted by a political party sort of has the effect, go figure.

Good for you. I am just saying its an ad. Thats all. I served in the canadian army, and really enjoyed it. But, this add doesnt bother me. I just see it as another round of utter garbage that the liberals and conservatives dish out every election.

Both parties produce this filth and try to show the nation how much different they are from the opposition. All i have come to discover is that they are as a bad as each other. So, once again i will have a wasted vote cast for the greens or the NDP.

Cheers,
paul

[FlightSergeantRose]

The polls indicate that the Conservatives are going to win a least a minority or hopefully a majority. I can't wait til they get in and find all the real dirt on the Liberals. It will be an exciting time.

[Bombtrack]

The polls indicate that the Conservatives are going to win a least a minority or hopefully a majority. I can't wait til they get in and find all the real dirt on the Liberals. It will be an exciting time.

Way to jinx the election you bastard!

[FlightSergeantRose]

Meh, as long as Harper doesn't screw things up in the next 6 days they will win. There is nothing the Liberals can do now to stop it.

[Resevoir Hogs]

Good for you. I am just saying its an ad. Thats all. I served in the canadian army, and really enjoyed it. But, this add doesnt bother me. I just see it as another round of utter garbage that the liberals and conservatives dish out every election.

Both parties produce this filth and try to show the nation how much different they are from the opposition. All i have come to discover is that they are as a bad as each other. So, once again i will have a wasted vote cast for the greens or the NDP.

Cheers,
paul

How very apathetic of you. Yes good for me, thought you might like to know that no we are not basing our votes on these ads. That's all.

Yes its an ad, but does it warrant the same disgust of other attack ads? No, it warrants far more. Because where most attack ads try to demean and raise doubt about other parties; this one actually suggests that the Canadian Forces in cities is a danger. That somehow Canadian soldiers are a threat to peaceful civil society. Its not the ad that offends us, its the fact that Paul Martin looked at this ad and approved it to be put on the Liberal website, run in Quebec, and distributed to the major news outlets.

If you want to just shrug this one off that's fine. I know the vast majority of us current serving members do take offence to it, as we rightly should.

[Kingswat]

if the conservatives get a minority then we will be back at the polls in another 6 weeks.

[rhino]

all too true, runing a minority gov requires a lot of street smarts, ability to play oposition parties against each other, somehow I doubt Harper has the brains for it, uh it will be too bad for Canada

[Threelions]

How very apathetic of you. Yes good for me, thought you might like to know that no we are not basing our votes on these ads. That's all.

Yes its an ad, but does it warrant the same disgust of other attack ads? No, it warrants far more. Because where most attack ads try to demean and raise doubt about other parties; this one actually suggests that the Canadian Forces in cities is a danger. That somehow Canadian soldiers are a threat to peaceful civil society. Its not the ad that offends us, its the fact that Paul Martin looked at this ad and approved it to be put on the Liberal website, run in Quebec, and distributed to the major news outlets.

If you want to just shrug this one off that's fine. I know the vast majority of us current serving members do take offence to it, as we rightly should.

I dont think the add takes any shot at the soldier. It attacks the person, or people in charge of said soldiers. It is saying that Harper will have these forces in the city. the add is playing off canadian peoples snece of how normal city life is carried out. They are trying to paint harper as this man with a milataristic idea for the nation. As i have said before i dont believe canadians are a miltaristic people, and thats what the add was aiming at.

Its not a shot at soldiers. Im the average joe voter who this **** is aimed at, and to be honest its just another pile of horse crap they always feed us. Take it as you will. If it upset you, then write a letter, contact someone.

For me, it didnt upset me. its garbage, and the same garbage we all ways see. Im not trying to attack you, or anyone else, just stating my honest, opinion.

Cheers,
Paul

[Resevoir Hogs]

I dont think the add takes any shot at the soldier. It attacks the person, or people in charge of said soldiers. It is saying that Harper will have these forces in the city. the add is playing off canadian peoples snece of how normal city life is carried out. They are trying to paint harper as this man with a milataristic idea for the nation. As i have said before i dont believe canadians are a miltaristic people, and thats what the add was aiming at.

Its not a shot at soldiers. Im the average joe voter who this **** is aimed at, and to be honest its just another pile of horse crap they always feed us. Take it as you will. If it upset you, then write a letter, contact someone.

For me, it didnt upset me. its garbage, and the same garbage we all ways see. Im not trying to attack you, or anyone else, just stating my honest, opinion.

Cheers,
Paul


As am I, and I honestly feel it was suggesting that military personel in cities is a bad thing. Lets leave it at that.

[Hater of people]

I honestly feel it was suggesting that military personel in cities is a bad thing.
I guess they don't realize that the army reserves are counted as military. I think every single city has at least one combat arms unit of reserves in it. They better get them out of those cities before all hell breaks loose. Or at least empty the weapons lock ups so there are no guns. Haha.

[Resevoir Hogs]

I guess they don't realize that the army reserves are counted as military. I think every single city has at least one combat arms unit of reserves in it. They better get them out of those cities before all hell breaks loose. Or at least empty the weapons lock ups so there are no guns. Haha.

Yeah really, I mean common, we're soldiers.....WITH GUNS! In cities...Canadian cities! Hope peoples rights aren't toooo violated. LMAO.