For The Glockheads

[Seraphim]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=13658&page=1

[punchinout]

INSANE!!!! he dropped it from a plane, shot it with a .22 buried it in all types of crap, put a few thousand rounds through it and it still freakin worked. That really changed my view on Glocks. good post.

[ogukuo72]

Darn! It's almost unbelievable!

[Buckeye67]

We Glockheads are already aware of this sort of thing. :)

[scrybe]

haha, Glocks have such a bad rep that it takes crazy stuf flike this to prove that they are at the very least a decent firearm. They are definitely a great piece.

[Buckeye67]

Never heard anything about Glock having a "bad rep" (at least from someone who knows firearms). They have a massive share of the law enforcement market in the US, not because they're "cheap", but because they're a reliable, accurate and easy pistol to transition from revolver to.

Glock conducted tests much like the poster in that forum did when they were first being developed and marketed back in the 80's. They dropped them from aircraft onto various surfaces, buried them, fired thousands of rounds through them as well as other torture tests (although I don't remember them shooting one). The Glock can take it and still keep functioning - as shown in that poster's photos and videos, and proven twenty years ago by Glock, Inc.

They're outstanding firearms. I attended their armorer's and transitional instructor's courses and I carried one (G19) for three years as a police officer. I conducted the transitional training for a 50+ man department, and assisted with training programs for several other departments in the area. I've personally put thousands of rounds through various Glocks that I've personally owned and that I was issued, and I've witnessed probably hundreds of thousands of rounds sent downrange. In all that time I'm aware of one mechanical problem that occurred with one of our department's pistols and Glock sent a rep out the very next day to ascertain the issue and correct the problem.

I'm not saying that Glock is the "end-all, be-all" in handgun design as I believe there are many other fine firearms out there. However based on my personal and professional experience I can honestly say that I have never heard of Glocks having "such a bad rep" that they need to stage wacky stunts to make people think they're a good pistol.

[scrybe]

Well first off, I'm a fan of Glocks. I was commenting about those that aren't. It's not so much that Glocks have a bad rep, it's more that there are rumors that they have had to overcome reguarding their safety when being carried or dropped, and the durability of a non-metal frame. Most of these have been been dismissed by tests like this. It's just funny that if a major company like Sig put out a pistol, people automatically think it must be a decent weapon; they just assume that. With Glocks though, it seems like it has always been a case of guilty until proven innocent.

[Buckeye67]

Gotcha. Your first post wasn't entirely clear to me on what you were trying to say. When the Glock 17 first hit the market here in early '86 ( I have a BC### serial numbered Mod 17 at home that I purchased in February or so of 86) there was quite a lot of doubt as to whether or not the gun would hold up under intense use. So I imagine the extreme torture tests conducted then were to lay those accusations to rest.

Since then, and particularly the early 90's (when the department I was with transitioned) - I've not heard anything about the pistols having a bad reputation. That's why I took issue with what your post seemed to be insuating.

[Chris]

I think most people go for the look, and if something doesnt look like a usual handgun, then it has to suck. "oh no hammer...ugly, bleh, glock sucks"

[taekwonno]

I was considering the new Springfield XD 45 ACP, but after seeing that...I think I am back to Glocks.

[Chris]

i thought about buying a glock, because I am from Austria :D and I like them, but it probably depends on the job the gun has to do. Primary defense weapon, or shooting for fun, and some contests from time to time.

I would love to get a Beretta 92f brigadier inox, looks just beautiful.

[HoboWithAK]

I was considering the new Springfield XD 45 ACP, but after seeing that...I think I am back to Glocks.

XD points better. Better grip angle.

[Roaming East]

whoah, that test with the USP is seriously making me reconsider swapping my 20 for one. I had HEARD that the USP was quite rugged and reliable. this test would prove otherwise. any HK aficiandos disagree?

[Seraphim]

whoah, that test with the USP is seriously making me reconsider swapping my 20 for one. I had HEARD that the USP was quite rugged and reliable. this test would prove otherwise. any HK aficiandos disagree?

Theres a small discussion on page 10 of that thread.

[Roaming East]

rgr that. thanks

[HoboWithAK]

whoah, that test with the USP is seriously making me reconsider swapping my 20 for one. I had HEARD that the USP was quite rugged and reliable. this test would prove otherwise. any HK aficiandos disagree?

Comparing a fullsized pistol to a compact (in that thread) can have differences from a full size v full size.

[sergey31]

Seen that article a while before..... I think the biggest problem "some" people have with Glock 21 is a little more of unsupported chamber when compared to other .45 out there. Well, 1911 is on the same with Glock on this issue.... I personally don't intend to shoot any reloads nor any ammo I don't know the origins from, so I'm not to worried about that.
Other problem is LARGE grip size, I know that for some people it's going to be a problem mainly with their middle finger (bellow trigger guard) This is where XD (or whatever) is going to be more suited for them.

I used to dislike Glock in general until my employment, my issue G-22 is probably the most accurate handgun I ever fired. I can group 2" at 30 yd with it and it's all stock. My Sig 220 can't even come close to it.

[Roaming East]

Comparing a fullsized pistol to a compact (in that thread) can have differences from a full size v full size.
yeah i didnt even realize it was a compact until several hours ago. Something to think about in any case. Guy seems like he has soft hands though. 500 rounds of .45 at a time aint no joke but is he for real about bruising and welts? i put 350 rounds through my 20 some years ago before moving cause i couldnt take the ammo with me and decided to burn it up. My hand definatly was numb and had that "held a jackhammer too long" feeling but not any bruising.

[Milla]

I still like the USP compact for some reason. But i sure wouldn't mind having a Glock either.

[RandallH1989]

Wow.. Just wow..

[ramy]

We Glockheads are already aware of this sort of thing. :)

+1 We sure are

[ABNINF]

I love both my Glock and my XD. There's a gun article that came out in a mag a few months ago, just before I deployed, where a guy had put over 200,000 rounds through his 17. But he didn't torture his like this guy did.

[gtronin]

yeah i didnt even realize it was a compact until several hours ago. Something to think about in any case. Guy seems like he has soft hands though. 500 rounds of .45 at a time aint no joke but is he for real about bruising and welts? i put 350 rounds through my 20 some years ago before moving cause i couldnt take the ammo with me and decided to burn it up. My hand definatly was numb and had that "held a jackhammer too long" feeling but not any bruising.


I might be talking out of my butt, but maybe gunking up a pistol like that can make the recoil a bit harsher by the weakening of the spring... I went threw 600 rounds with my 1911 on a go and while my hand got a bit numb from it, my thunb was actually worse off from reloading the mags and it was just a bit red... but my 1911 is still pretty new...

[Roaming East]

undoubtly true

[SGMGSG9]

Well fellas it's like this Glocks are a love - hate relationship kinda pistol. You ether love them or you hate the polymer/metal scourges, poor excuses for pistols (what the hell was Gadston Glock thinking when he created theses little butt monkeys) O'ooo why did I waste the 350 bucks on this new Glock -17, bought because I got talked in to it by SO CALLED friends. CAN'T hit SH**T with it because the damn thing WONT GROUP! And its not me because I shoot for a living, (pistol specialist, with one of the big three) but I digress. As I was saying before I snapped, you ether love them to death or you prefer a good old American 45.......Now that's a beautiful weapon steeped in history, reliability, & YOU HIT WHAT YOU POINT IT @ EVER TRIP OF THE TRAIN, PERIOD! I will admit as much destine as I feel towards my 17, I found it very difficult to watch the "Texas Style" truck drag. I had to look away several times as it was very painful to watch. I did watch the video in its entirety though!

Disclaimer: Glock is a fine company with a great products & good people, I JUST HATE MY GLOCK-17. B)

[Jippo]

Glocks are good weapons for finding problems with trigger pull SGMGSG9, if there is a problem there you will not get a group. That happened to me too, and it only goes away with training with the Glock. For righhanders the hits are often in the lower left quarter, lefties lower right.

Trust me, it'll group 2 inches at 25 yds, your money is not wasted it is just not the easiest trigger.


-jippo

[SMilJKD]

Cool article, thanks a bunch.

[Laworkerbee]

We Glockheads are already aware of this sort of thing. :)

X2 mine has 5,000 rounds through it without a failure of any sort

[DeathForSale]

Pretty much what can be said of my baby.

[AFJROTC55]

does anyone know if it is legal to carry (as far as the Geneva Accords go) a Glock 19 select fire in combat, not that i really support alot of the Accords, but i figured that it would be worth knowing. Let me say it differently, are soldiers allowed to carry fully automatic pistols in a combat zone, or carry period for that matter. thanks

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[Roaming East]

they have a select fire glock other than the 18C?

[AFJROTC55]

im sorry, did i say 19? totally must've hit the wrong button, no, unless you know something i dont, the 18 is the only one i know of. i think Berretta makes a select fire pistol, not sure though.

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[Greek soldier]

And Glock still has this priviledge. It is a miracle for fire-arms!!

[Roaming East]

how many 93R's did berreta even make? i didnt think they were as prevalent as the 18C's

[ABNINF]

Not too many, but Kate Beckinsale uses a couple in Underworld I believe.

[Chris]

Not too many, but Kate Beckinsale uses a couple in Underworld I believe.


...well that changes everything... :D

[Roaming East]

Love movies nowadays...nothing more than an excuse for shameless gun **** and chicks in tight binding costumes. Shameless i tell you shameless






...and totally worthwhile

[Chris]

Love movies nowadays...nothing more than an excuse for shameless gun **** and chicks in tight binding costumes. Shameless i tell you shameless






...and totally worthwhile

gun **** lol

[Delta Niner]

Not too many, but Kate Beckinsale uses a couple in Underworld I believe.
I don't think that Kate used a Glock in that movie.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1054&stc=1&d=1137742012

[Seraphim]

*drools*

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[Roaming East]

meh. her head seems a bit large in comparison to the rest of her. kinda like a toddler in terms of proportions. might just be a bad picture though

[ktk_ace]

I don't think that Kate used a Glock in that movie.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1054&stc=1&d=1137742012

Thats a Walther P99 pistol, not a glock .

By the way , the designer for the glock 17 also designed the P99 ^^
i guess he switched jobs or is a free agent :)