Israel "Peace of the Galilee" war in Lebanon

[alexz]

Pulled this from the national archives.

IN THE PHOTO, IDF TANKS & EQUIPMENT LOADED ON LANDING CRAFTS FOR TRANSFER BY
SEA FROM SIDON TO DESTINATIONS IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6275.jpg

IN THE PHOTO, IDF FORCES UPON LANDING ON THE BEACH OF SIDON IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6278.jpg

ISRAELI MOBILE GUN IN POSITION OPPOSITE WEST BEIRUT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6083.jpg

WEST BEIRUT UNDER ARTILLERY FIRE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6084.jpg

CREW MEMBERS SERVICING THEIR TANK AND EXCHANGING ONE OF THE CHAIN DURING A STOP-OVER AT THE APPROACHES TO BEIRUT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6089.jpg

KNOCKED-OUT SYRIAN TANKS LEFT BEHIND AT EIN-ZAHLATA IN THE CENTRAL SECTOR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6095.jpg


FATTAH POSTER FOUND IN BAHAMDUN VILLAGE SHOWING FATTAH TERRORIST TRAMPLING MAGEN DAVIS UNDERFOOT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6099.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS ON A SHORT "OFF DUTY" PASS ENJOYING A LEISURELY BREAK ON THE BEACH IN JUNIEH
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6101.jpg

TERRORIST KATYUSHA ROCKET LAUNCHERS CAPTURED
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6102.jpg

ISRAELI SNIPER TAKING AIM SOMEWHRE IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6104.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS ON JEEP TALKING WITH CHRISTIAN PHALANGISTS IN BEIRUT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6105.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS TAKING A "LIBERATED" SHOWER IN THE RAW NEAR BEIRUT.


ISRAELI PARATROOPER WITH NEWLY "ADOPTED" FRIEND IN BEIRUT.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6114.jpg

HEAVY ARTILLERY PIECE CAPTURED FROM THE TERRORISTS DURING OPERATION "PEACE FOR GALILEE" EXHIBITED AT EXHIBITION GROUNDS IN T.A.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6117.jpg


TANKS CAPTURED BY I.D.F. FORCES DURING OPERATION "PEACE FOR GALILEE" IN LEBANON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6120.jpg

VEHICLE WITH MOUNTED MUTI-BARRELLED GUN CAPTURED FROM TERRORISTS IN LEBANON BEING TRANSPORTED ON ISRAELI TRUCK TO BASE UNIT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6122.jpg

ISRAELI ARMY MEDICAL OFFICER ATTENDING TO YOUNG LEBANESE BOY WOUNDED BY TERRORIST FIRE AT BAHAMDUN VILLAGE IN CENTRAL LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6126.jpg

AN M-60 TANK LEADING A COLUMN OF ARMOURED TROOP CARRIERS ON THE
OUTSKIRTS OF BEIRUT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6129.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS EXAMINING WEAPONS SEIZED FROM TERRORIST ARMS CACHE IN THE BACKYARD OF ONE OF THE HOUSES IN SIDON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6135.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS ENJOYING A SURPRISE SHOWER FROM WATER PIPE ACCIDENTALLY DAMAGED BY TANK AT ZAHLATA
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6137.jpg

ISRAELI TANKS AND TROOPS AT FORMER SYRIAN BASE AT EIN ZAHLATA IN THE CENTRAL SECTOR. IN THE FOREGROUND A KNOCKED-OUT SYRIAN TANK.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6141.jpg

INHABITANTS CARRYING SOME OF THEIR BELONGINGS PASSING MAN CARRYING DISABLED FRIEND ON HIS SHOULDERS IN SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6148.jpg

ISRAELI ARMOURED UNIT REGROUPING DURING THEIR ADVANCE ALONG THE COASTAL PLAIN NORTHWARDS IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6150.jpg

ISRAELI FOOTPATROL OUT ON A HOUSE TO HOUSE SEARCH FOR TERRORISTS DURING-UP OPERATIONS IN SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6154.jpg

SYRIAN S.A.2 ROCKET BATTERIES RECEIVING DIRECT HITS FROM ISRAEL AIR FORCE PLANES IN THE BAKA'A VALLEY IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6155.jpg

A LEBANESE BOY PLAYING ON TOP OF DESTROYED TERRORIST JEEP OUTSIDE TIBNIT VILLAGE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6163.jpg

LEBANESE GROWN UPS AND CHILDREN WAVING HAPPILY TO ISRAELI SOLDIERS PASSING THEIR VILLAGE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6165.jpg

ISRAELI MERKAVA TANK PASSING THROUGH STREET IN NABATIYE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6167.jpg


THE SECOND STAGE OF THE IDF EVACUATION FROM LEBANON, AFTER THE LEBANON WAR. IN THE PHOTO, IDF ARMOR CROSSING THE BORDER INTO ISRAEL.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6173.jpg

THE SECOND STAGE OF THE IDF EVACUATION FROM LEBANON, AFTER THE LEBANON WAR. IN THE PHOTO, A MORNING PRAYER AND LAST PREPARATIONS BEFORE CROSSING THE BORDER.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/Lebanon/wwwm6176.jpg

[UkrainianAmerican]

Awesome Pics!

[shadower]

Great load of pics.Thanx!

[DeathForSale]

Nice pics. The Phalangists actually look quite well clothed and equiped compared to other militia's I have seen.

[Racer-X]

Nice pics. The Phalangists actually look quite well clothed and equiped compared to other militia's I have seen.

Maybe so, but I read and understood they could be quite ruthless, like their many adversaries...like Palestinians, Shi'ites and so on ...

Though they had quite an advantage over their opponents. Alliance with Israel if I'm not mistaken...:-)

Incredibly nice pics...thanks..

[One?]

Phalangist where equiped by the IDF. The leaders and some militiamen were even trained inside israel.

I love your comments everyone is a terrorist. You invade a country you arrest people resisting the occupation in thousands and they are the terrorists? But the phalange that commited sabra and shatila and killed hundres of men simply because they were muslim in 1 day are "allies". Wow what a load of crap.

[alexz]

Lets go over it again. Israel didn't invade Lebanon for the F**k of it.
After the PLO TERRORIST were kicked out of Jordan after a failed
attempt to murder the King and take over the country.
Soon after their arrival to Lebanon they started murdering Christians
and Shia (which welcomed the Israelis with flowers in 82)
In 82 they open a massive Katyusha barrage on Israel with hundreads
of missiles hiting northern Israel. Then Israel invaded, just like any
other country would. At least with PLO being gone Leabnon had a
chance to rebuild it self. Otherwise you would still go from one
massacre to another.

[DeathForSale]

Well I am a Christian so I would have to say it was good of Israel to support the Phalangists.

[alexz]

Well I am a Christian so I would have to say it was good of Israel to support the Phalangists.

Every one know about Sabra and Shatila and Israel and the Phalages
are always to be blamed. However the cause of, whuch was the
Damour massacre, is rearly mentioned and most of you probably
never heard about it, thank to the "objective" media.

Here is a link to the event with some gruesome pictures
http://www.falange.us/damour.htm

[Moledet]

Phalangist where equiped by the IDF. The leaders and some militiamen were even trained inside israel.

I love your comments everyone is a terrorist. You invade a country you arrest people resisting the occupation in thousands and they are the terrorists? But the phalange that commited sabra and shatila and killed hundres of men simply because they were muslim in 1 day are "allies". Wow what a load of crap.
I doubt he wrote the captions.

Thanks for the pictures, I think I have some pictures from Lebanon and Yom kippur war in old photo albums but I have no scanner.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

did the lebanese ever resist the syrian takeover in any way?

just curious, not familiar with the conflict...although i once fooled around with an attractive lebanese chick, does that count?

[JoGg]

Nice pics!!!! Thx for sharing.

Just adding a pic if you don't mind... :)

Cover of Time magazine, june 21 1982
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9729/11018206214007hx.jpg

[Impulse_t0]

Red x's for me :(.

[JoGg]

Since I had way too much free time, I uploaded the pics on photobucket... Just edited your post AlexZ and copy/paste the links I had PM you.

[One?]

"your mom is a load of crap" whoever left that comment for me, be a man and leave your name next time. Don't be a pussy and hide :)

DeathForSale you can love and support whoever you want but you did not have to worry about being stopped on a checkpoint and have your head cut off, dipped in acid, or have nails hammered into your skull simply because your id card said muslim on it.

Midav sabra and shatila was an organized massacare for 2 days. It was systematic killing and raping of people. The reason why Israelis are blamed is because they had the area sarrounded, they itercepted radio transmissions and yet did nothing to stop it. They were the occupying force it was their responsibility.

It wasnt the only massacare it was one of many. And I know the damour massacare who doesnt. Comparing the massacares between the phalange and the other side (whether it was the communists, plo, leftist, muslims, orthodox christians etc...) the phalange (Lebanese Forces, Kateb, cedar gaurds etc..) killed more people civilians based on their religion than anyone else. The druze did commit ****ed up massacares nobody denies that. But then again the druze threw rice on idf soldeirs, I wonder why.


The lebanese that resisted the occputaion were terrorists too?


did the lebanese ever resist the syrian takeover in any way?

The syrians fought everyone in lebanon. But the most know "resistance" was carried out by the Lebanese Army Commander, General Aoun. For 5 or more years the Syrian air force was not allowed to fly over lebanon. Somehow they managed to fly over lebanon that day and bombed the presidential palace without anyone intercepting them.....

I doubt he wrote the captions.

if thats the case then i take my comments back.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I said yo mom is a load of crap rofl. What does being a man have anything to do with leaving my name. Just a quck reply to your dismisal of captions ;-)

[S'13]

Midav sabra and shatila was an organized massacare for 2 days. It was systematic killing and raping of people. The reason why Israelis are blamed is because they had the area sarrounded, they itercepted radio transmissions and yet did nothing to stop it. They were the occupying force it was their responsibility.


Once news of the massacre came in, the IDF called the Falange out. Needless to say that they didn't follow their orders.

As for Israel being an occupying force and all... well in that case why doesn't Lebanon take responsibility for the countless terrorist attacks that were launched against Israel from within its borders and which brought Israel to invade in the first place?
If I'm not mistaken, you explained to me once that because Lebanon was in the midst of a civil war and there was anarchy, Lebanon was unable to do anything. The same applies here.



The lebanese that resisted the occputaion were terrorists too?


The same Lebanese who broghout Israel to invade?

[alexz]

Pics are back on, thank to JoGg's incredible work.

[JoGg]

IDF SOLDIERS POSING FOR A PICTURE HOLDING A PALESTINIAN FLAG & A PORTRAIT OF YASSER ARAFAT TAKEN AS A SOUVENIR DURING THE FIGHTING.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9049.jpg

TROOP CARRIER FLYING THE LEBANESE AND ISRAELI FLAGS PASSING A GROUP OF WOMEN WARMLY WELCOMING THE SOLDIERS TO THEIR VILLAGE IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9028.jpg

CHILDRENS WALKING ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9017.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS GIVING COVERING FIRE TO PATROL ADVANCING IN RASHIDIYE SOUTH OF TYRE.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9018.jpg

ISRAELI FRONTLINE SOLDIER IN LEBANON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9014.jpg

ISRAELI RESERVE SOLDIER CALLED UP FOR DUTY IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9013.jpg

AN IDF SOLDIER WORKING OUT WITH HIS WEAPON ON THE BEACH IN SIDON, LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8751.jpg

CONVOY OF ISRAELI TANKS MOVING SOUTHWARDS DURING THE REDEPLOYMENT OF ISRAELI FORCES IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8893.jpg

IDF TROOPS ON THEIR WAY TO SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8808.jpg

ISRAELI PARATROOPERS IN HOUSE TO HOUSE SEARCHES FOR HIDDEN TERRORISTS DURING MOPPING-UP OPERATIONS IN DAMOUR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9004.jpg

ISRAELI TANK PASSING THROUGH DAMOUR NORTH OF SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9000.jpg

SYRIANS TANKS CAPTURED BY I.D.F. FORCES 22 DURING OPERATION "PEACE FOR GALILEE IN LEBANON"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8993.jpg

IDF ARTILLERY FIRING KATYUSHA ROCKETS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8995.jpg

TERRORISTS CAPTURED DURING THE WAR, RELEASED FROM THE "ANSAR" DETENTION CAMP IN SOUTHERN LEBANON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8668.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9098.jpg

INTERIOR VIEW OF THE JEWISH SYNAGOGUE IN BAHAMDUM VILLAGE SOUTH OF THE BEIRUT- DAMASCUS HIGHWAY.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8635.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS INVOLVED WITH PHYSICAL FITNESS JOGGING ALONG IN THEIR SHORTS DURING A LULL NEAR THEIR POST IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8628.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8717.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIERS MAKING FRIENDS WITH BABY BOY IN THE ARMS OF HIS MOTHER IN BEIRUT
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8622.jpg

TWO PARATROOPERS WITH ARMORED CORPS SOLDIER WITH COMBAT FATIGUE, DURING THE PEACE FOR GALILEE OPERATION.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8680.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8909.jpg

ON THEIR WAY TO SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8803.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8799.jpg

ISRAEL AIR FORCE PHANTOM JET OVERFLYING BEIRUT, LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8525.jpg

MAJOR SA'AD HADDAD ABOUT TO RAISE THE LEBANESE FLAG OVER BEAUFORT FORTRESS FORMERLY HELD BY THE TERRORISTS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9039.jpg

REPRODUCTION OF PHOTOGRAPH FOUND IN POSSESSION OF PALESTINIAN TERRORIST SHOWING ONE OF THE R.P.G. BOYS IN LEBANON

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9003.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIER HELPING FRIGHTENED MOTHER TO TAKE HER SON WOUNDED BY TERRORIST FIRE TO A FIRST-AID STATION AT BAHAMDUN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9072.jpg

ISRAELI MEDICAL ORDERLY GIVING FIRST AID TO LEBANESE CHILD WOUNDED BY TERRORIST FIRE AT BAHAMDUN.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9073.jpg

SMOKE COMING UP OVER THE WESTERN PART OF BEIRUT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9078.jpg

IDF TROOPS ON ARMORED VEHICLES WAITING FOR EVACUATION FRON THE SEASHORE NEAR SIDON AFTER THE WITHDRAWAL FROM THE SHOUF MOUNTAINS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8989.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIER GIVING SOME SWEETS TO CHILDREN ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9015.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIER WITH A FALANGIST CHECKING LOCAL VEHICLE AT CHECKPOST IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8904.jpg

RESCUE WORKERS EXAMINING CASUALTY EXTRICATED FROM THE RUBLE OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS DESTROYED IN THE IDF HEADQUARTERS COMPOUND IN TYRE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8905.jpg

ISRAELI SOLDIER DOING A CROSSWORD PUZZLE WHILE RESTING IN THE FIELD SOUTH OF BEIRUT.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9063.jpg

LEBANESE WOMEN RANSACKING BOMBED STORE WITH BODY OF DEAD TERRORIST LYING IN FRONT OF BUILDING IN SIDON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9024.jpg

IDF ARMOURED CORPS SOLDIER BRIEFED BY THEIR COMMANDER IN THE SOUTH.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8745.jpg

LEBANESE YOUNGSTERS WAVING TO PERSONELL CARRIER FLYING ISRAELI AN LEBANESE FLAGS PASSING THROUGH VILLAGE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9019.jpg

IDF SOLDIERS & THEIR TANK AT AN IDF POSITION IN THE "SHUF" MOUNTAIN REGION IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8732.jpg

[Baron Harkonnen]

Rather pro Israel propagandistic pics, but still very interesting, thanks.

Well, to add some other point of view...

Destroyed israeli equipment...

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3057/astkmagach6dinleb3jr.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7049/324172287ko.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4404/le030pg.jpg

Syrian AT team

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8689/astksaatteam3wd.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3912/asksaatteaminbeirut0av.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2248/oct133wa.jpg

[Macabi]

Awsome pics JoGg! woot

Does anyone happen to know how the Galil assault rifles functioned there? Apart from the old grip getting overheated and it being un-accurate in long range? Could someone tell me first hand what the Galil is like?

Tnx

[Irish]

Nice pics. The Phalangists actually look quite well clothed and equiped compared to other militia's I have seen.

wat religion are the Phalangists?? I did three tours to lebanon with the UN and in the surrounding hills around south Lebanon amoung the UN post were what we called the DFF(defaco Forces).they were the christian (Lebanese)militla for the IDF and were hated.

Every so often when they got board they wound open up with 50 cals near or around local villages scaring the locals.

Every harvest time we had to stay with farmers until they collected their harvest because the DFF had a nasty habit of shooting at the crops to burn them.

I remember manning a swing gate at the boarder between Naquara-Roshineckra(wrong spelling)boarder.We had to open the gate for Un personal only.A Dff soldier in civvis walked up to the gate with a pistol cursing me in Arabic.I knew wat he said and was going to reply in kind but as i was not armed im sure if i did i would have been shot.

there was another gate about two hundred meters from me on the lebanese boarder side that was manned by a Ghanain Sgt who was also not armed so i decided to stay quiet.

The Dff have Irish Blood on their hands.After the Battle of Atiri were the dff tried to over run an Irish UN position they were beaten back.approx a week or so later an Irish patrol came across a dff checkpoint/patrol,One of the members of the dff patrol had a relative killed during the Battle of Atiri and wanted revenge.

overwhelming odds the Irish had no choice but to put weapons down..it was then when the dff brought them to a house and shot them in cold blood.

the militia who pulled the trigger was protected by the Isrealies and sprited outta the country.he now works as an ice cream man in New york.

[S'13]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8751.jpg

Shayetet 13...

[DeathForSale]

"your mom is a load of crap" whoever left that comment for me, be a man and leave your name next time. Don't be a pussy and hide :)

DeathForSale you can love and support whoever you want but you did not have to worry about being stopped on a checkpoint and have your head cut off, dipped in acid, or have nails hammered into your skull simply because your id card said muslim on it.

Midav sabra and shatila was an organized massacare for 2 days. It was systematic killing and raping of people. The reason why Israelis are blamed is because they had the area sarrounded, they itercepted radio transmissions and yet did nothing to stop it. They were the occupying force it was their responsibility.

It wasnt the only massacare it was one of many. And I know the damour massacare who doesnt. Comparing the massacares between the phalange and the other side (whether it was the communists, plo, leftist, muslims, orthodox christians etc...) the phalange (Lebanese Forces, Kateb, cedar gaurds etc..) killed more people civilians based on their religion than anyone else. The druze did commit ****ed up massacares nobody denies that. But then again the druze threw rice on idf soldeirs, I wonder why.


The lebanese that resisted the occputaion were terrorists too?


did the lebanese ever resist the syrian takeover in any way?

The syrians fought everyone in lebanon. But the most know "resistance" was carried out by the Lebanese Army Commander, General Aoun. For 5 or more years the Syrian air force was not allowed to fly over lebanon. Somehow they managed to fly over lebanon that day and bombed the presidential palace without anyone intercepting them.....

I doubt he wrote the captions.

if thats the case then i take my comments back.

Why don't you look at the rights of other religious minorities in Muslim dominated countries. They are non-existent. So don't expect me too feel to bad.

[ArmedPacifist]

wat religion are the Phalangists?? I did three tours to lebanon with the UN and in the surrounding hills around south Lebanon amoung the UN post were what we called the DFF(defaco Forces).they were the christian (Lebanese)militla for the IDF and were hated.

Every so often when they got board they wound open up with 50 cals near or around local villages scaring the locals.

Every harvest time we had to stay with farmers until they collected their harvest because the DFF had a nasty habit of shooting at the crops to burn them.

I remember manning a swing gate at the boarder between Naquara-Roshineckra(wrong spelling)boarder.We had to open the gate for Un personal only.A Dff soldier in civvis walked up to the gate with a pistol cursing me in Arabic.I knew wat he said and was going to reply in kind but as i was not armed im sure if i did i would have been shot.

there was another gate about two hundred meters from me on the lebanese boarder side that was manned by a Ghanain Sgt who was also not armed so i decided to stay quiet.

The Dff have Irish Blood on their hands.After the Battle of Atiri were the dff tried to over run an Irish UN position they were beaten back.approx a week or so later an Irish patrol came across a dff checkpoint/patrol,One of the members of the dff patrol had a relative killed during the Battle of Atiri and wanted revenge.

overwhelming odds the Irish had no choice but to put weapons down..it was then when the dff brought them to a house and shot them in cold blood.

the militia who pulled the trigger was protected by the Isrealies and sprited outta the country.he now works as an ice cream man in New york.



Interesting story, thank you for sharing.

[Irish]

Interesting story, thank you for sharing.

Your welcome..

[El-Sefarad]

Well I am a Christian so I would have to say it was good of Israel to support the Phalangists.

GREAT PICS!

well.. phalangists were good allies for israel and ALS (SLA south lebannon army) more later too.. maronits had some good fighters.. only too bad that christians in lebanon are less and less many..

[DeathForSale]

GREAT PICS!

well.. phalangists were good allies for israel and ALS (SLA south lebannon army) more later too.. maronits had some good fighters.. only too bad that christians in lebanon are less and less many..
Pretty much like every other place similair to Lebanon.

[Irish]

GREAT PICS!

well.. phalangists were good allies for israel and ALS (SLA south lebannon army) more later too.. maronits had some good fighters.. only too bad that christians in lebanon are less and less many..
The SLA (defaco forces we called them)were nothing more than Isrealie lapdogs

[El-Sefarad]

Pretty much like every other place similair to Lebanon.

Yes.. I also think to bosnia and kosovo... really sad that NATO came help a gang of terrorists and drug dealers like this f....... UCK :-(

[El-Sefarad]

The SLA (defaco forces we called them)were nothing more than Isrealie lapdogs

whatever you say..

[S'13]

The SLA (defaco forces we called them)were nothing more than Isrealie lapdogs

And some would say UNIFIL was the PLO's lapdog (while today they are Hizbullah's lapdog).

[Irish]

And some would say UNIFIL was the PLO's lapdog (while today they are Hizbullah's lapdog).
UNIFIL were NEUTRAL..and would disarm the Hizbullah and wouldn't let them pass at a checkpoint..We had run ins with them as well for that reason!!!!

at one stage an Irish Post was surrounded by Hizbullah fighters,only a local Muctar interviened their would have been murder...

When Yee pulled out of Lebanon you very Quickly forgot about your Lebanese friends and they even looked for protection from UNIFIL...which they GOT...But didn't deserve it..

[S'13]

UNIFIL were NEUTRAL..and would disarm the Hizbullah and wouldn't let them pass at a checkpoint..We had run ins with them as well for that reason!!!!


Just like with the case of a UNIFIL force involved in the abduction of three Israeli soldiers?

You guys didn't do much to ensure peace in S. Lebanon after you were placed there in 1978... what in turn forced Israel in 1982 to do your job in ensuring peace for its civilians.



When Yee pulled out of Lebanon you very Quickly forgot about your Lebanese friends and they even looked for protection from UNIFIL...


That's why some 2,500 fromer SLA soldeirs and their families live in Israel today?

[Ameen]

wat religion are the Phalangists?? I did three tours to lebanon with the UN and in the surrounding hills around south Lebanon amoung the UN post were what we called the DFF(defaco Forces).they were the christian (Lebanese)militla for the IDF and were hated.

Every so often when they got board they wound open up with 50 cals near or around local villages scaring the locals.

Every harvest time we had to stay with farmers until they collected their harvest because the DFF had a nasty habit of shooting at the crops to burn them.

I remember manning a swing gate at the boarder between Naquara-Roshineckra(wrong spelling)boarder.We had to open the gate for Un personal only.A Dff soldier in civvis walked up to the gate with a pistol cursing me in Arabic.I knew wat he said and was going to reply in kind but as i was not armed im sure if i did i would have been shot.

there was another gate about two hundred meters from me on the lebanese boarder side that was manned by a Ghanain Sgt who was also not armed so i decided to stay quiet.

The Dff have Irish Blood on their hands.After the Battle of Atiri were the dff tried to over run an Irish UN position they were beaten back.approx a week or so later an Irish patrol came across a dff checkpoint/patrol,One of the members of the dff patrol had a relative killed during the Battle of Atiri and wanted revenge.

overwhelming odds the Irish had no choice but to put weapons down..it was then when the dff brought them to a house and shot them in cold blood.

the militia who pulled the trigger was protected by the Isrealies and sprited outta the country.he now works as an ice cream man in New york.

They were Christian. I wish you guys would have would have wiped them out there.


Baron Harkonnen: Thanks for the great photos, showing the other side.

[droopy]

Well I am a Christian so I would have to say it was good of Israel to support the Phalangists.
So it`s christians agains muslims again ... there is truly no end for this ... unfortunatley :(

Thanks for the pix.

[Irish]

Just like with the case of a UNIFIL force involved in the abduction of three Israeli soldiers?

You guys didn't do much to ensure peace in S. Lebanon after you were placed there in 1978... what in turn forced Israel in 1982 to do your job in ensuring peace for its civilians.



That's why some 2,500 fromer SLA soldeirs and their families live in Israel today?
Sorry man but i don't call shelling villages during grapes of wrath and for that matter a certain UN post peace!!!!

What about the rest of the SLA..there is alot more than 2500??

please explain UNIFIL helping kidnap Isreali Soldiers??

First i ever heard of it.

We also lost a lot of good men in south Lebanon doing their job..

[NimDod]

Sorry man but i don't call shelling villages during grapes of wrath and for that matter a certain UN post peace!!!!


here's the UN report:
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/6...e?OpenDocument

here's a part of the report (Report dated 1 May 1996 of the Secretary-General's Military
Adviser concerning the shelling of the United Nations
compound at Qana on 18 April 1996)

Events prior to the shelling

9. My team and I questioned a number of witnesses on the activities of Hezbollah fighters in Qana prior to the incident. The following was found:

(a) Between 1200 and 1400 hours on 18 April, Hezbollah fighters fired two or three rockets from a location 350 metres south-east of the United Nations compound. The location was identified on the ground.

(b) Between 1230 and 1300 hours, they fired four or five rockets from a location 600 metres south-east of the compound. The location was identified on the ground.

(c) About 15 minutes before the shelling, they fired between five and eight rounds of 120 millimetre mortar from a location 220 metres south-west of the centre of the compound. The location was identified on the ground. According to witnesses, the mortar was installed there between 1100 and 1200 hours that day, but no action was taken by UNIFIL personnel to remove it. (On 15 April, a Fijian had been shot in the chest as he tried to prevent Hezbollah fighters from firing rockets.)

(d) The United Nations compound at Qana had taken in a large number of Lebanese seeking shelter from Israeli bombardments. By Sunday, 14 April, 745 persons were in the compound. On 18 April, the day of the shelling, their number is estimated to have been well over 800. When the Fijian soldiers heard the mortar being fired not far from their compound, they began immediately to move as many of the civilians as possible into shelters so that they would be protected from any Israeli retaliation.

(e) At some point (it is not completely clear whether before or after the shelling), two or three Hezbollah fighters entered the United Nations compound, where their families were.

[S'13]

Sorry man but i don't call shelling villages during grapes of wrath and for that matter a certain UN post peace!!!!


Better read the U.N reports before attacking Israel over this (NimDod saved you the trouble of looking for it).



What about the rest of the SLA..there is alot more than 2500??


There were those who decided to stay in Lebanon... heck, there even former SLA soldiers who lived in Israel for a while and then moved back to Lebanon.



please explain UNIFIL helping kidnap Isreali Soldiers??

First i ever heard of it.


http://palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_unifil_hezbollah.php

[One?]

Why don't you look at the rights of other religious minorities in Muslim dominated countries. They are non-existent. So don't expect me too feel to bad.


hahahah. hahahaha. hahahaha

Buddy, in order to become a general or commander of the army or a president you must be a maronite christian. If you want to become a general manager of one of the government ministries or organizations you have to be a maronite. That was the case since we took independance. So dont tell me about rights. Go read or something instead of spreading your bull**** on here :)



S'13 The same Lebanese who broghout Israel to invade?


According to Israel they invaded because of palestinians not lebanese. The lebanese that fought with the PLO where fighting the phalange that were trying to wipe out the palestinians and the arab identity of lebanon. As well as drug wars between factions that used the civil war as a cover.

Those on the "left" side werent all muslims for ****s sake people get your facts straight. IT WAS NOT CHRISTIAN VS MUSLIM. IT WAS MARONITES VS THE OTHERS. THE Communist party was started by a christian, most fighters were christian and they fought the phalange. The SSNP (syria socialist national party) was also started by christians and fought against the phalange. So no it wasn't muslims vs christians trying to wipe them out.


SLA in lebanon

All the SLA did was continue the civil war in southern lebanon after it was over. The SLA was nothing more than traitors. If the IDF was so nice to them, why didn't they inform them of the withdrawl? Why did you just let them hang there? Why did you fire your guns at them on the border? Why didn't you grant lahed an israeli citizenship? According to Lahed the IDF betrayed him after he served israel for more than 15 years. Israel gave him 6 months to leave israel. If they werent lapdogs I don't know what they were.


The SLA left lebanon because they thought they were going to get killed. But that never happened. Some of them are still in israel. Such as the leadership, the torturers in the khiam prison, and the intel people. They never came back. And they had to fight to go to israel, after you fired a couple of shots on them.

[Dervish]

Lebanese, Syrian, Palestinian fight against Israel in 1982.

Muslim and Christian stand together in Khalde near Beyrut airport against Israeli Merkava and APC. It is a battle that become a legend.

[NimDod]

Lebanese, Syrian, Palestinian fight against Israel in 1982.

Muslim and Christian stand together in Khalde near Beyrut airport against Israeli Merkava and APC. It is a battle that become a legend.

can you post a link about that "legendary" battle?

[DeathForSale]

hahahah. hahahaha. hahahaha

Buddy, in order to become a general or commander of the army or a president you must be a maronite christian. If you want to become a general manager of one of the government ministries or organizations you have to be a maronite. That was the case since we took independance. So dont tell me about rights. Go read or something instead of spreading your bull**** on here :)



According to Israel they invaded because of palestinians not lebanese. The lebanese that fought with the PLO where fighting the phalange that were trying to wipe out the palestinians and the arab identity of lebanon. As well as drug wars between factions that used the civil war as a cover.

Those on the "left" side werent all muslims for ****s sake people get your facts straight. IT WAS NOT CHRISTIAN VS MUSLIM. IT WAS MARONITES VS THE OTHERS. THE Communist party was started by a christian, most fighters were christian and they fought the phalange. The SSNP (syria socialist national party) was also started by christians and fought against the phalange. So no it wasn't muslims vs christians trying to wipe them out.


SLA in lebanon

All the SLA did was continue the civil war in southern lebanon after it was over. The SLA was nothing more than traitors. If the IDF was so nice to them, why didn't they inform them of the withdrawl? Why did you just let them hang there? Why did you fire your guns at them on the border? Why didn't you grant lahed an israeli citizenship? According to Lahed the IDF betrayed him after he served israel for more than 15 years. Israel gave him 6 months to leave israel. If they werent lapdogs I don't know what they were.


The SLA left lebanon because they thought they were going to get killed. But that never happened. Some of them are still in israel. Such as the leadership, the torturers in the khiam prison, and the intel people. They never came back. And they had to fight to go to israel, after you fired a couple of shots on them.

Okay you just re-iterated what I am trying to say. In some muslim countries having a christian bible can result in imprisonment or even death sometimes. So yes, don't expect me too feel bad.

[Dervish]

can you post a link about that "legendary" battle?

No website.

It is famous battle.

Israeli try to attack Beyrut from Khalde (south of airport). First carpet bomb then attack with tank/apc. Resistance did not withdraw in carpet bombing. There was a big ambush: alot of terrorist zionist tanks destroyed. Terrorist zionist withdraw, then carpet bomb again, then attack again to get the destroyed equipment.

Your friend Sharon know this too :D

[alexz]

Sorry man but i don't call shelling villages during grapes of wrath and for that matter a certain UN post peace!!!!

What about the rest of the SLA..there is alot more than 2500??

please explain UNIFIL helping kidnap Isreali Soldiers??

First i ever heard of it.

We also lost a lot of good men in south Lebanon doing their job..

First thing first. There were hundreads of shia soldiers in the SLA
(with many Hizzbullah spies). Many of them were unedecuted
merceneries.

The hizzbulah fighters that kidanaped and killed the 3 Israeli soldiers used
UN vehicles and uniforms. The UN troops video taped the entire inicident.
For almost nine months, high ranking U.N. officials, including U.N. Middle East envoy Terje Larsen and U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, denied possessing any videotape related to the kidnapping

On July 6, 2001, the U.N. finally admitted that they possessed the tape as of 18 hours after the incident occurred.

http://judaism.about.com/library/1_terrorism/bl_hardov_un.htm

[alexz]

No website.

It is famous battle.

Israeli try to attack Beyrut from Khalde (south of airport). First carpet bomb then attack with tank/apc. Resistance did not withdraw in carpet bombing. There was a big ambush: alot of terrorist zionist tanks destroyed. Terrorist zionist withdraw, then carpet bomb again, then attack again to get the destroyed equipment.

Your friend Sharon know this too :D

It's so famous that you can't find a single link to it?

[DeathForSale]

HAHAH! Owned.

[Baron Harkonnen]

--Okay you just re-iterated what I am trying to say. In some muslim countries having a christian bible can result in imprisonment or even death sometimes. So yes, don't expect me too feel bad.

Your are looking like christian fanatic.

[S'13]

According to Israel they invaded because of palestinians not lebanese. The lebanese that fought with the PLO where fighting the phalange that were trying to wipe out the palestinians and the arab identity of lebanon. As well as drug wars between factions that used the civil war as a cover.


Don't expect people to believe that no Lebanese took part in attacks on Israel and the murder of Israeli civilians... Samir Kuntar who will hopefully die in prison ain't Palestinian.

[alexz]

Don't expect people to believe that no Lebanese took part in attacks on Israel and the murder of Israeli civilians... Samir Kuntar who will hopefully die in prison ain't Palestinian.

No, he is a Druze, Ironically the Druze like the Shia did welcome the IDF
with flowres and rice.

[Inconnu]

Good pics.

[S'13]

No, he is a Druze,

Lebanese nontheless... and I'm sure he wasn't the only one involved in terrorist activities.

[sp2c]

Lets go over it again. Israel didn't invade Lebanon for the F**k of it.
After the PLO TERRORIST were kicked out of Jordan after a failed
attempt to murder the King and take over the country.
Soon after their arrival to Lebanon they started murdering Christians
and Shia (which welcomed the Israelis with flowers in 82)
In 82 they open a massive Katyusha barrage on Israel with hundreads
of missiles hiting northern Israel. Then Israel invaded, just like any
other country would. At least with PLO being gone Leabnon had a
chance to rebuild it self. Otherwise you would still go from one
massacre to another.

I allways thought the Israeli invasion was a response of an attack from palestinian 'commando's' out of Lebanon where a bus filled with mostly schoolchildren was taken hostage in Israel (march 11 1978?) with many killed?

[El-Sefarad]

I allways thought the Israeli invasion was a response of an attack from palestinian 'commando's' out of Lebanon where a bus filled with mostly schoolchildren was taken hostage in Israel (march 11 1978?) with many killed?

And also because PLO terrorists were regularly bombing israeli cities and villages...they had accumulated at a moment so much military equipement in south lebannon that this terrorist organisation became a real little army, this situation was unacceptable for israel....

[Moledet]

I allways thought the Israeli invasion was a response of an attack from palestinian 'commando's' out of Lebanon where a bus filled with mostly schoolchildren was taken hostage in Israel (march 11 1978?) with many killed?
Actualy, the last thing that led to the invasion was the PLO's try to assassinate Israel's Ambassador in London.

As for that battle, never heard of it, there were very tough battles like the Beaufort castle battle, but I have never heard of Khaled battle.

[sp2c]

would you call it a succes??
How'd Arafat's PLO wind up from Lebanon into the Palestinian territories (Israel)????

...
...

now, now, put the anonymous negative reps away, I'm not making any judgements, just asking because I don't really know anything about that war

[Moledet]

would you call it a succes??
How'd Arafat's PLO wind up from Lebanon into the Palestinian territories (Israel)????


The operation itself was a great success. It was the first time ever that UAVs were used successfuly, the army advanced fast with minimal amount of losses and was able to stop the attacks on the Israeli civilians.

As the years passed it went into ****, we had no one to talk to in the other side (apart of the SLA that had no real political support) so we were forced to stay inside Lebanon to stop the attacks. And it developed into a guerilla war that wasn't very successful (at least nothing like the war in Iraq), overall including the time of the conventional war we lost 1216 soldiers in 18 years (over half were killed in the time of the invasion-670 soldiers).

[sp2c]

thanx, any good links in english?

[Snoshi]

No website.

It is famous battle.

Israeli try to attack Beyrut from Khalde (south of airport). First carpet bomb then attack with tank/apc. Resistance did not withdraw in carpet bombing. There was a big ambush: alot of terrorist zionist tanks destroyed. Terrorist zionist withdraw, then carpet bomb again, then attack again to get the destroyed equipment.

Your friend Sharon know this too :D

What jets did Israel carpet bomb with? And why is this battle not documented?

I love the terrorist zionist tank comment :D

[Schizo]

No website.

It is famous battle.

Israeli try to attack Beyrut from Khalde (south of airport). First carpet bomb then attack with tank/apc. Resistance did not withdraw in carpet bombing. There was a big ambush: alot of terrorist zionist tanks destroyed. Terrorist zionist withdraw, then carpet bomb again, then attack again to get the destroyed equipment.

Your friend Sharon know this too :D
I see you included Sharon, Zionists, Zionist destroyed, carpet bombing, Zionist withdraw... I think you missed one inital part... Oh yeah,

ALLLLLLLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!

roflroflrofl

[El-Sefarad]

I see you included Sharon, Zionists, Zionist destroyed, carpet bombing, Zionist withdraw... I think you missed one inital part... Oh yeah,

ALLLLLLLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!

roflroflrofl

rofl rofl rofl X2

[Dervish]

I see you included Sharon, Zionists, Zionist destroyed, carpet bombing, Zionist withdraw... I think you missed one inital part... Oh yeah,

ALLLLLLLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!

Yes. Zionist did carpet bomb Beyrut. Barbarian. They did Sabra and Chatila.

the people who resistance you had honor. Christian and Muslim stand together to defend there country against people who destroy it. Not this battle but many other.

From Beyrut to south Lebanon zionist were beaten. Everywhere Zionist go they get ambushed, Druze, Shia, Sunni, Christian, Syrian, Palestinian all shared. Finally they get idea and leave. Sharon was defence minister in 1982. Inshallah he go to hell soon.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1982/1101820816_400.jpg

[alexz]

Yes. Zionist did carpet bomb Beyrut. Barbarian. They did Sabra and Chatila.

the people who resistance you had honor. Christian and Muslim stand together to defend there country against people who destroy it. Not this battle but many other.

From Beyrut to south Lebanon zionist were beaten. Everywhere Zionist go they get ambushed, Druze, Shia, Sunni, Christian, Syrian, Palestinian all shared. Finally they do smart thing and they leave.


http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1982/1101820816_400.jpg

Where is the link to the famous battle? I'm not saying ot didn't happen,
I just want more info that zionist bombing etc.
You are aware that Israel left after the remaining PLO terrorist
were put on a boat and sent to Tunis?

P.S.
So know it wasn't the Falanghs that massacred Palestinians at Sabra
and Shatilla it was Israeli soldiers, right?

[Dervish]

Phalange=Israeli soldier. They help each other.

Coward Israeli soldier in Beyrut push and hit women and children in seaching homes. They did to my family you ****.

Every boy or man line up and they put mark and date in his hand. Maybe like nazi in germany. If you miss a day they take you.

Go and help your zionist friend Sharon before Allah take his soul.

[S'13]

Yes. Zionist did carpet bomb Beyrut. Barbarian. They did Sabra and Chatila.


This is like a broken record already... :roll:



Christian and Muslim stand together to defend there country against people who destroy it.


The civil war destroyed Lebanon... so what are we supposed to understand from this statment? rofl



From Beyrut to south Lebanon zionist were beaten. Everywhere Zionist go they get ambushed, Druze, Shia, Sunni, Christian, Syrian, Palestinian all shared. Finally they get idea and leave.


Come on, can't you be more original and try not to repeat the things you hear on El-Manar? :lol:

[Schizo]

Yes. Zionist did carpet bomb Beyrut. Barbarian. They did Sabra and Chatila.

the people who resistance you had honor. Christian and Muslim stand together to defend there country against people who destroy it. Not this battle but many other.

From Beyrut to south Lebanon zionist were beaten. Everywhere Zionist go they get ambushed, Druze, Shia, Sunni, Christian, Syrian, Palestinian all shared. Finally they get idea and leave. Sharon was defence minister in 1982. Inshallah he go to hell soon.


Keep on barking, you little propaganda-Al Jazzera victim.
And it's only because terrorists like you, IDF invaded in the first place.

Oh, and yeah? Sharon will go to hell?
You mean like this little bitch ass terrorist mother****er Arafat, that you assholes supported... just to let you know, he liked it doggy style, and he died because he was a fag that exploited your "peaceful" religion for his own personal benefit.

[S'13]

You mean like this little bitch ass terrorist mother****er Arafat, that you assholes supported... just to let you know, he liked it doggy style, and he died because he was a fag that exploited your peacefull religion for his own personal benefit.

Died of AIDS and now they can claim we poisoned him...

[kineret]

Phalange=Israeli soldier. They help each other.

Coward Israeli soldier in Beyrut push and hit women and children in seaching homes. They did to my family you ****.

Every boy or man line up and they put mark and date in his hand. Maybe like nazi in germany. If you miss a day they take you.

Go and help your zionist friend Sharon before Allah take his soul.


is this kid retarted? yo tinhead, IDF does not = Phalangists. one is a national army, the other is a local militia group. Just because IDF supplied Phalangists to fight scum from hezbollah, does not mean IDF is responsible for the militia's actions. tell me something, why is it that the palestinian 'national movements' get kicked out of every country they're in? from lebanon, from syria, from tunis? you see a trend there, fruitcake?

[Schizo]

Died of AIDS and now they can claim we poisoned him...

Yep, obviously, that's why I mentioned his favorite 'position' and ****** orientation.

[alexz]

Phalange=Israeli soldier. They help each other.

Coward Israeli soldier in Beyrut push and hit women and children in seaching homes. They did to my family you ****.

Every boy or man line up and they put mark and date in his hand. Maybe like nazi in germany. If you miss a day they take you.

Go and help your zionist friend Sharon before Allah take his soul.

This goes back to my initial response to you.
If you have a proof then provide it. If you have a proof the IDF took
part in the Massacre then let all of us and the authorities know.
I can also post that you like to get f**d by horses, but i'll need
some kind of proof, otherwise i'll look like a dushbag.

If Israeli soldiers entered every home to search for terrorists, how does
it make them cowards? Cowards is the Arab way of blowing up a bus
full of children. Entering a house with armed terroist that can shot
and throw grandes when you open the door is any thing but cowardly.

The Nazis didn't put sticker they tattooed their victims and then Killed
them.

Take a good look at my avtar. Does it look like I'm a Sharon fan?

Are you a Palestinian?

[El-Sefarad]

Yep, obviously, that's why I mentioned his favorite 'position' and ****** orientation.

heard that on jewish radio but I believed that it was only a rumour...
I start to think that its true..(that arafat is died of AIDS, not about his favorite position lol)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Phalange=Israeli soldier. They help each other.

Coward Israeli soldier in Beyrut push and hit women and children in seaching homes. They did to my family you ****.

Every boy or man line up and they put mark and date in his hand. Maybe like nazi in germany. If you miss a day they take you.

Go and help your zionist friend Sharon before Allah take his soul.
I had *** with a lebanese, I missed the mark and date tattooed on her... I guess i need glasses.

[Ameen]

I like all of your guy's comments....

..they really explain why nobody likes Jews.

[alexz]

I like all of your guy's comments....

..they really explain why nobody likes Jews.

You mean because we ask for a proof when someone runs his mouth off?

[Ameen]

You mean because we ask for a proof when someone runs his mouth off?

You didn't say anything out of proportion, but the others said many untolerable comments which are not needed.

[Schizo]

You didn't say anything out of proportion, but the others said many untolerable comments which are not needed.

Take a look at Dervish's posts and then come back and whine.

[Snoshi]

I like all of your guy's comments....

..they really explain why nobody likes Arabs.

Edited....

[S'13]

..they really explain why nobody likes Jews.

Yet it seems that you still heaven't acknowledged the fact that nobody likes you...

[S'13]

You didn't say anything out of proportion, but the others said many untolerable comments which are not needed.

And your last post was a really good example of how to stay in proportions...

[JoGg]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gif Israel "Peace of... 01-15-2006 01:54 PM Pro Israeli Propaganda.

IDF might be invited again in lebanon to get ride of Hassan and put him in a boat with a one way ticket to hell...

I heard the lebanese chicks are the hottest in the mideast, it could be a good partnership!

[Dervish]

If IDF is brave then they will come back to Lebanon...

But maybe they will come back on airplane and bombing the electricity station again like the do year after year.

[Snoshi]

If IDF is brave then they will come back to Lebanon...

But maybe they will come back on airplane and bombing the electricity station again like the do year after year.

Well Israel can, BUT USA wont let it happen again.

[S'13]

If IDF is brave then they will come back to Lebanon...


I hope the majority of Lebanese aren't so keen on death and distruction, though it would explain why you slaughtered each other for 15 years.

[Dervish]

I hope the majority of Lebanese aren't so keen on death and distruction, though it would explain why you slaughtered each other for 15 years.

No, death and distruction come with zionist. You kill/ethnic cleanse for 58 year.

[Schizo]

No, death and distruction come with zionist. You kill/ethnic cleanse for 58 year.

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONELEVEN
rofl

Sorry, but you're pathetic.

[Impulse_t0]

No, death and distruction come with zionist. You kill/ethnic cleanse for 58 year.


hahahahahaha comedy

[S'13]

No, death and distruction come with zionist. You kill/ethnic cleanse for 58 year.

What did I tell you about watching too much El-Manar...

[Ameen]

What did I tell you about watching too much El-Manar...

It's Al-Manar idiot. If your going to insult someone, at least make it the right channel. El-Manar is Spanish.

[Impulse_t0]

It's Al-Manar idiot. If your going to insult someone, at least make it the right channel. El-Manar is Spanish.


He said El-Manar you illiterate dumbass.

;)

[Ameen]

He said El-Manar you illiterate dumbass.

;)

You have to be stupid. That is exactly my point.

It is Al-Manar!!! not El-Manar!!!

[Dervish]

I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?

Every time emir from Kuwait or Saudi give money to fix electricity station.
IDF wait until it is fixed and then bomb again after month.

Is there military reason?

[S'13]

It's Al-Manar idiot. If your going to insult someone, at least make it the right channel. El-Manar is Spanish.

You can spell it both ways dumbass. rofl

Not that I even give a flying f*** how you spell the name of that channel.

[S'13]

I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?


You mean everytime Hizbullah launched rockets on our towns...

[S'13]

It is Al-Manar!!! not El-Manar!!!

Nobody cares!

[NimDod]

I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?

Every time emir from Kuwait or Saudi give money to fix electricity station.
IDF wait until it is fixed and then bomb again after month.

Is there military reason?

I remember one case when Israel bombed a Lebenese electricity station sometime in the early 90's, but Im not sure its the same cause u'r talking about.
If I recall correctly, it came as a response after Hizzbullah fired rockets into Israeli towns in the north of the country. (I remember a video of one missile hitting a car with a woman inside at Kiryat Shmona that shocked me as a kid back then).

when missiles are fired from Lebanon into Israel, there's a response.
would any other country in the world react differently?

please post a like to an article about that attack, if you find one.

[UkrainianAmerican]

You didn't say anything out of proportion, but the others said many untolerable comments which are not needed.
Are you referring to my comments? WEll I did rip her **** apart better (according to her) then her arab lebanese bf in Cali. Nothing personal (unless you have a lebanese gf in Queens, NY)

[speckfire]

Intresting arguments.. Well I know Beirut resisted far more than Baghdad ever did lol. The Tsahal could not get in Beirut till the PLO left under the supervision of the Multinational force. After then the Multinational force suddenly withdrew and the Tsahal and the Phalanges entered West Beirut with minimal effort.

[speckfire]

Are you referring to my comments? WEll I did rip her **** apart better (according to her) then her arab lebanese bf in Cali. Nothing personal (unless you have a lebanese gf in Queens, NY)

It only counts if she was non-Christian ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

It only counts if she was non-Christian ;)
Shia muslim, her uncle was in the AMAL. Her mom gave 20 bucks to hizbullah fundraiser in Lebanon.
(some other family mem bers were on teh other side,but all shia....basically if her entire family has a family reunion they gonna 'nullify' each other :lol:)
Now, how many people can brag they got the terrorists back in such a personal way, not even IDF soldiers...(unless tehy got mad game) :-P

[500]

Elie Hobeika that commited Sabra and Shatila massacre was a Syrian agent.

What I like about Syrians is their sence of humor: after the massacre they out Hobeka as minister of refugees in Lebanon. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_rofl.gif

[alon]

Great pictures .

[speckfire]

Shia muslim, her uncle was in the AMAL. Her mom gave 20 bucks to hizbullah fundraiser in Lebanon.
(some other family mem bers were on teh other side,but all shia....basically if her entire family has a family reunion they gonna 'nullify' each other :lol:)
Now, how many people can brag they got the terrorists back in such a personal way, not even IDF soldiers...(unless tehy got mad game) :-P


Hahahaha now that counts 10X

[speckfire]

Elie Hobeika that commited Sabra and Shatila massacre was a Syrian agent.

What I like about Syrians is their sence of humor: after the massacre they out Hobeka as minister of refugees in Lebanon. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_rofl.gif


Elie Hobeika kept changing sides. At that time he was on Isreal's side then changed later on to the Syrian side. He could have been a double agent too.

[JoGg]

Shia muslim, her uncle was in the AMAL. Her mom gave 20 bucks to hizbullah fundraiser in Lebanon.
(some other family mem bers were on teh other side,but all shia....basically if her entire family has a family reunion they gonna 'nullify' each other :lol:)
Now, how many people can brag they got the terrorists back in such a personal way, not even IDF soldiers...(unless tehy got mad game) :-P

Did the family know you were jewish? Hope, they didn't... otherwise she could get killed by relatives to avenge the family honor.

:)

[Dervish]

Israel "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398593#post1398593)01-18-2006 04:02 AMGo to Hell you idiotic, moronic Jack Ass, butt licking, follower of a Pedophile self-proclaimed Prophet. God is Great!!! Oh in my native tongue Allah Huwakbar!!!!!!!!! May all fanatic Muslims like you burn in hell for eternity!http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gifIsrael "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398816#post1398816)01-17-2006 04:55 PMKill yourself or i'll do it for you - Impulse

rofl rofl

One more thing:

When "IDF" go in danger streets in Beyrut they give candy and chocolat to children so they are around APC. This stop resistance from attacking APC. Human shield but smart way.

[Moledet]

I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?

Every time emir from Kuwait or Saudi give money to fix electricity station.
IDF wait until it is fixed and then bomb again after month.

Is there military reason?
If Israeli citizens need to stay under the ground in shelters and not have a normal life because you are shooting rockets at them than your civilians won't have a normal life either and will live in darkness.

[Moledet]

Israel "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398593#post1398593)01-18-2006 04:02 AMGo to Hell you idiotic, moronic Jack Ass, butt licking, follower of a Pedophile self-proclaimed Prophet. God is Great!!! Oh in my native tongue Allah Huwakbar!!!!!!!!! May all fanatic Muslims like you burn in hell for eternity!http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gifIsrael "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398816#post1398816)01-17-2006 04:55 PMKill yourself or i'll do it for you - Impulse

rofl rofl

One more thing:

When "IDF" go in danger streets in Beyrut they give candy and chocolat to children so they are around APC. This stop resistance from attacking APC. Human shield but smart way.
It's amazing how you turn every good action into a bad thing. Unlike you we were trying to give them a little piece of normal life, instead of giving them guns, rocks or explosive belts. You think stopping in the middle of the street and getting out of the APC help the soldiers stay safer? Bullsh*t.

[haschmich]

i LOVE how the society creates names like "Peace-of-XY war". lets call WW2 "Peace-in-the-east war"...
i just HATE the superficial and nonserious way, the media handles such things. if a war is in favor of certain interests, there will be a media campaign giving a positive name to that war. journalists SUCK

[S'13]

i LOVE how the society creates names like "Peace-of-XY war". lets call WW2 "Peace-in-the-east war"...
i just HATE the superficial and nonserious way, the media handles such things. if a war is in favor of certain interests, there will be a media campaign giving a positive name to that war. journalists SUCK

The goal of Operation Peace of the Galilee was to drive the PLO out of Lebanon in order to stop the shellings and terrorist raids they conducted (mostly against the communities of the Galilee).

That is why this name was chosen...

[catalyst]

I am not entering this debate on either side. I think each side has done many good and bad things....no side is spared from this....

But I just fail to understand comments such as:


If Israeli citizens need to stay under the ground in shelters and not have a normal life because you are shooting rockets at them than your civilians won't have a normal life either and will live in darkness.

and


I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?

Every time emir from Kuwait or Saudi give money to fix electricity station.
IDF wait until it is fixed and then bomb again after month.

Is there military reason?

____________________________________

That in itself is the root of the issue....you hit me, I hit you.....the cycle goes on....no one has the balls to stop and say no more....neither the Jews who have a right to live safe and happy lives(given to them by the UN) and so do the Lebanese or the Palestinians etc....

Cant everyone be nice to each other....surely it could create some positives!

[kineret]

I am not entering this debate on either side. I think each side has done many good and bad things....no side is spared from this....

But I just fail to understand comments such as:



and



____________________________________

That in itself is the root of the issue....you hit me, I hit you.....the cycle goes on....no one has the balls to stop and say no more....neither the Jews who have a right to live safe and happy lives(given to them by the UN) and so do the Lebanese or the Palestinians etc....

Cant everyone be nice to each other....surely it could create some positives!


there is no 'cycle'. its a constant one way street. the problem is that people think that hezbolla attacks norther israel as some form of 'retaliation' for a prior occurence. this is a false perception. Hezbollah will occasionally fire off a few katyushas into israeli civilian areas to bolster its standing with the lebanese and to show them that they;re still fighting the big bad israelis. catalyst, if some group kept firing rockets into your home, what would you expect your government to do about it?

[Moledet]

I am not entering this debate on either side. I think each side has done many good and bad things....no side is spared from this....

But I just fail to understand comments such as:



and



____________________________________

That in itself is the root of the issue....you hit me, I hit you.....the cycle goes on....no one has the balls to stop and say no more....neither the Jews who have a right to live safe and happy lives(given to them by the UN) and so do the Lebanese or the Palestinians etc....

Cant everyone be nice to each other....surely it could create some positives!
Since you served among the UNtisemites you will never understand that. Keep shooting gas grenades to tell drugs smugglers where our ambushes are along the border. Greedy criminals.

[catalyst]

I understand that you feel as if they are attacking you.....but what would happen if the IDF didnt retaliate but sent them a more positive and peaceful message.....

Kind of the "if he slaps your left cheek....turn and offer your right"....everyone knows that if someone wants to fight you....wthdrawing the cause of concern is the best way....

That doesnt mean Israel should cease to excist....I believe in your right to the land you have.....but can you not offer them a more positive message....

you rocket me, we bomb you.....your people get unhappy again cause you are not liberating them.....repeat......that doesnt help...well....i cant see how it does....

[kineret]

I understand that you feel as if they are attacking you.....but what would happen if the IDF didnt retaliate but sent them a more positive and peaceful message.....

Kind of the "if he slaps your left cheek....turn and offer your right"....everyone knows that if someone wants to fight you....wthdrawing the cause of concern is the best way....

That doesnt mean Israel should cease to excist....I believe in your right to the land you have.....but can you not offer them a more positive message....

you rocket me, we bomb you.....your people get unhappy again cause you are not liberating them.....repeat......that doesnt help...well....i cant see how it does....


this is the problem with people that think the way you do, the whole 'turn the other cheek' pipedream. groups like Hezbollah and Hamas dont give a damn if you turn the other cheek or turn two cheeks. They want to kill you, plain and simple. Your idea would work in a nice neighborhood, but not in the middle east. Arabs in general, see inaction in the face of an attack as a sign of weakness and an invitation to further attacks.

theres an old arabic fable, a bedouin had a flock of chickens. one night a group of bandits came by and stole his chickens. His son says, "father we must avenge and kill these bandits who stole our chickens". But the old man didnt want to start trouble and kill people over a couple of chickens. Few more nights went by and same group of bandits came by and stole the man's camels. Again his son says, "father we must kill them for stealing our chickens and camels", but the old man didnt want to start trouble so again, he did nothing"

In few more nights, same bandits came and raped the old man's daughter. "You see father, because of your inaction, they saw us as weak and defenseless, and stole our chickens, our camels and your daughter's honor". Inaction is fatal.

Trust me, I know you mean well, but until you live in this neighborhood and understand the rules here, you will not have a basic understanding of how things work. The entire concept of 'cycle' of violence is a myth. Let me put it this way, if the Palestinians or the Hezbollah laid down their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace in the middle east. If the Israelis laid down their weapons, there would be no more Israel.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Did the family know you were jewish? Hope, they didn't... otherwise she could get killed by relatives to avenge the family honor.

:)
She had a long distance bf, and she was cheating with me, her family obviously didnt know of my existence.

[One?]

Elie Hobeika that commited Sabra and Shatila massacre was a Syrian agent.

What I like about Syrians is their sence of humor: after the massacre they out Hobeka as minister of refugees in Lebanon. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_rofl.gif


you are a dumbass. the taef agreement stated that everyone that took part in the civil war was to take part in the government. hobeika later became pro syrian like the rest of the leaders in lebanon.


Bragging about sleeping with a labenase girl oh noeeeeee damn that realy hurts my feelings. Did you know that 60% of the SLA was shia? I bet you didn't. That still doesnt mean they weren't traitors.


Battle of khalde
if you don't know what it was then go ask your friends and commanders in the idf they will tell you about it.

Israeli Retaliation before
The IDF used to attack beirut everytime hezbollah attacked one of their posts. It wasnt because they attacked their cities. They figured that if they attack beirut hezbollah would lose its support and the lebanese would slowly tell hezbollah to stop resisting the idf. But the lebanese were smarter and continued their support. So the IDF strategy failed.


Israeli Retaliation today
hezbollah attacks any post they want and the IDf only threatens. meaning they wont do ****.

Why the katyusha
Whenever the IDF or the SLA bombed villages or killed civilians the retaliation was firing rockets on nothern israel. Basicaly an eye for an eye. If they didn't do that then israel, and the sla would consider where the bomb is going land before firing it. And that meant minimizing lebanese casualties. You terrorize lebanon with your planes, artillary, bombs etc, and the response was terrorizing northern israel with katyusha. A very simple concept. Not because hezbollah randomly fired katyushas whenever they felt like it.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Bragging about sleeping with a labenase girl oh noeeeeee damn that realy hurts my feelings. Did you know that 60% of the SLA was shia? I bet you didn't. That still doesnt mean they weren't traitors.


Actually yes i did know a LOT of them were shia (not sure about 60 percent), and i emphasized her relative was in the SHia amal, and her mom donated to hizzies...... O and from what i saw, YOU PEOPLE DO get hurt when you are informed a yahoodie f*cked a girl who the entire MSA (muslim student association) is after rofl rofl
If you wanna get even dill a goodlooking ZIONIST (she HAS to be pro-israel, cuz the one i dilled hates jews) jewish girl, and i will shut up :)

[Dervish]

One thing 100% sure is zionist tanks was f***ed by Arab RPG.

Sorry..no link.

[S'13]

One thing 100% sure is zionist tanks was f***ed by Arab RPG.

I wasn't aware that tanks can have ideological beliefs, nor was I aware that the RPG was invented by the Arabs, always thought it was Russians. :)

Usually I would ask people to back such claims, in your case I don't expect anything (just like that "battle" you mentioned).

Anyway, today "Zionist" tanks can withstand several hits by "Arab" ATGMs, not to metnion RPGs (as Hizbullah managed to prove in their last failed attack).

[Macabi]

HAHAHA 'Zionist tanks' :cantbeli: rofl rofl !


Anyway, today "Zionist" tanks can withstand several hits by "Arab" ATGMs, not to metnion RPGs (as Hizbullah managed to prove in their last failed attack).

Yeah wasn't that Merkava 1. hit like 4 times or so by RPG's? Didn't look like it did much damage, apart from that one of the crewmembers was wounded correct me if I'm wrong? Anyway that was a Mk1. now there's a Mk4.

So far for the invinsible arab-radical-muslim-rpg...:cantbeli:

[Moledet]

HAHAHA 'Zionist tanks' :cantbeli: rofl rofl !



Yeah wasn't that Merkava 1. hit like 4 times or so by RPG's? Didn't look like it did much damage, apart from that one of the crewmembers was wounded correct me if I'm wrong? Anyway that was a Mk1. now there's a Mk4.

So far for the invinsible arab-radical-muslim-rpg...:cantbeli:
Actualy, it was MK2/3 and it was hit 7 times. Still it was running and was able to withdraw for repairs (replace the armor plates).

[Apathy]

Phalange=Israeli soldier. They help each other.

Coward Israeli soldier in Beyrut push and hit women and children in seaching homes. They did to my family you ****.

Every boy or man line up and they put mark and date in his hand. Maybe like nazi in germany. If you miss a day they take you.

Go and help your zionist friend Sharon before Allah take his soul.

Be quiet woman! Who told you to post on these forums?! Get back into your cage!

[Dervish]

Every one know about Sabra and Shatila and Israel and the Phalages
are always to be blamed. However the cause of, whuch was the
Damour massacre, is rearly mentioned and most of you probably
never heard about it, thank to the "objective" media.

Here is a link to the event with some gruesome pictures
http://www.falange.us/damour.htm

Before Damour was Karantina massacre by phalange.

It is sick to talk about this s**t but worst is when somebody else changes what happened.

[speckfire]

Before Damour was Karantina massacre by phalange.

It is sick to talk about this s**t but worst is when somebody else changes what happened.


Yes but Israel was not involved and back then was not backing up the Phalange. The Israeli support came later to the Phalange when the PLO started to help the moslem militias in West Beirut.

Dervish why are you upset about the peace of gallilee campaign. South Lebanon was "fatah land" and a lot of shias were helping the IDF catch PLO fighters. Did you forget that??

[kineret]

Before Damour was Karantina massacre by phalange.

It is sick to talk about this s**t but worst is when somebody else changes what happened.


dervish, are you a palestinian?

[Macabi]

dervish, are you a palestinian?

Yeah I'm also curious?

Anyway he sounds like such a indoctrinated Hamas kid of 8 years old that doesn't know SH*T!!!

[Impulse_t0]

Be quiet woman! Who told you to post on these forums?! Get back into your cage!

HAHAHAH YES!!!!!

[Kaplanr]

Israel "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398593#post1398593)01-18-2006 04:02 AMGo to Hell you idiotic, moronic Jack Ass, butt licking, follower of a Pedophile self-proclaimed Prophet. God is Great!!! Oh in my native tongue Allah Huwakbar!!!!!!!!! May all fanatic Muslims like you burn in hell for eternity!http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_balance.gifIsrael "Peace of... (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398816#post1398816)01-17-2006 04:55 PMKill yourself or i'll do it for you - Impulse

rofl rofl

One more thing:

When "IDF" go in danger streets in Beyrut they give candy and chocolat to children so they are around APC. This stop resistance from attacking APC. Human shield but smart way.


Sounds like Baghdad Bob.

[Ren987]

How to resuscitate a good ol' thread (let's keep it civilized)

Ariel Sharon and Chief of Staff 'Raful' Eytan, four day before the war
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1364/ur00106826b7b47fs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A huge cloud of smoke rises over the southern city of Sidon as Israeli war planes pound PLO positions around the city - June 6, 1982
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4748/be0240491e567falq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli soldier standing in Sidon
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6162/py0010121fa8c16nu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

An IDF soldier inspects a hidden weapons cache left behind by the PLO in Sidon
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5083/jr0023632fbfc33tk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF vehicules Entering Damour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damour_massacre) in June 1982 (click on Damour)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5936/aaec00152627902f6nk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Disabled Syrian Tank in Behamdoun, Lebanon
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9173/ur0024242cc0a84zw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF Forces Move into West Beirut where Arafat PLO headquarter is located - June 1982
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4374/ur0024051b1575dbc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6877/ur0024041cfbb55th0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8058/ur0024111c7745frk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A row of Israeli Merkava moving into Beirut
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9436/ur0024071d8989eyb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli Tank taking position Outside Beirut Museum, W. Beirut
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7997/ur0024161b387c9kh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9364/ur0024141c7245bdn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, in combat helmet and flak jacket rides in APC leading his troops to a hookup with Christian forces in East Beirut. Israel has virtually cutoff Palestinian guerrillas and Syrian troops in Beirut.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4006/u20851751f5b215ns4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli soldiers keep watch over Baabda, the presidential palace in Beirut
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9034/aaec0013862dbff2csl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF 175mm canons aiming toward PLO stronghold in W. Beirut
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3637/ur0024222cc73cdzr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6696/u20870321e6b097ne0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IAF bombardment over PLO targets in W. Beirut - July 1982
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/617/be0240492c994b2gs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4210/ur0024191e577f7if7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


IDF troops marching in West Beirut after the assassination of the Head of the Lebanese Forces Bechir Gemayel. Gemayel had just been elected President of Lebanon - September 1982
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9421/dwf152698451fd1466dh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8555/dwf152698441ff95f1es0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7852/dwf152698382c16e26ql3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3154/dwf152698212006ff5xx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8162/dwf152698432d210f0oq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7905/dwf152698391ff8a29zw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/566/dwf152698241ffa6c9qy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5787/dwf152698421ffcb39yh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1076/dwf152698402d272d6rd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8981/dwf152698371d45fcfcl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Group of Lebanese Soldiers in Beirut - 1982 (dunno the precise date)
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1982/tl0367381b3dcfeyb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/896/tl0367391ba0970kz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Soldiers of the Kataeb phalanx pose in front of a large crucifix in Beirut - October 1982
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2674/00001894480072e10fcewa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Ren987]

Let the flame war begin :)

A Maronite priest lends his support to South Lebanese army fighters (ALS) - 1985
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/3001/42154843317434f6fh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/6838/4215361782744a72xx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ya2]

spagetti 0.5"

[OttawaLoneWolf]

I thought the Kataeb phalanx would be underground style fighter, ur pics showed me wrong

[OttawaLoneWolf]

Lets go over it again. Israel didn't invade Lebanon for the F**k of it.
After the PLO TERRORIST were kicked out of Jordan after a failed
attempt to murder the King and take over the country.
Soon after their arrival to Lebanon they started murdering Christians
and Shia (which welcomed the Israelis with flowers in 82)
In 82 they open a massive Katyusha barrage on Israel with hundreads
of missiles hiting northern Israel. Then Israel invaded, just like any
other country would. At least with PLO being gone Leabnon had a
chance to rebuild it self. Otherwise you would still go from one
massacre to another.


mmm, I was reading Ariel Sharon " A life "

the buffer zone extended to 80 km up north in Lebanon instead 10 km in the original plan.

like every things in Middle East there is no black and white, but the reality of the situation.

Both sides are not saints but merely human beings.
I like this post a lot, but the insulting was really unnecessary.

[OttawaLoneWolf]

I remember one case when Israel bombed a Lebenese electricity station sometime in the early 90's, but Im not sure its the same cause u'r talking about.
If I recall correctly, it came as a response after Hizzbullah fired rockets into Israeli towns in the north of the country. (I remember a video of one missile hitting a car with a woman inside at Kiryat Shmona that shocked me as a kid back then).

when missiles are fired from Lebanon into Israel, there's a response.
would any other country in the world react differently?

please post a like to an article about that attack, if you find one.


Many Israelis said" would any other country in the world react differently? "

seriously I don't know because any other country is not Israel. I doubt they will ever go though the intense situation as Israel does.

However, bombing Lebenese electricity station which is vitial to people's life is a little too harsh as response.

Civilians are " not so guilty ", they are not policy makers. I am sure they were not the one who fired the rockets at Israel.
If milita comes to your house and say " I am using your house" I can' t say no in front of the barrel.

I always remember the video Moshe Dayan asking the Arabs family to stay after the 6 days War.

I am all for Israel's security but why should the civilians be punished for milita's crime. Israel suppose be a nation with conscience. I am sure David Ben-Gurion believed that and I believed that too.

[LRPV]

Maybe in contempory warfare the military AND civilians feed from the same electricity stations, therefore such vital points become legitimate targets.
In such a scenario, how do you permit the supply of energy to civilians but not combatants?:|

[OttawaLoneWolf]

Maybe in contempory warfare the military AND civilians feed from the same electricity stations, therefore such vital points become legitimate targets.
In such a scenario, how do you permit the supply of energy to civilians but not combatants?:|

maybe raise their electroic bill ? : )

[BPEL]

Maybe in contempory warfare the military AND civilians feed from the same electricity stations, therefore such vital points become legitimate targets.
In such a scenario, how do you permit the supply of energy to civilians but not combatants?:|

Its easy, everyone knows Israel/U.S. using the "typical" text book strategy on any country. A simple "shock and awe" Wolf Blitzer reportage clearly shows you this. Don't you think the combatants know and thus develope contingency plans?

So whats the use bombing runaways, power plants, Labneh factories? Only to make more friends? or Less?

I met many of those IDF soldiers in Broumana enjoying their "vacation" while dining in local restaurants. It was very sad to see these soldiers being served Lebanese hospitality while our country was being invaded.

[LRPV]

What's a labneh factory? Anyway, without the Israelis where would your tourist industry be? Let's face it, they are 'return' customers.p-) You won't let me in just because of a mark on my passport.

Anyway, in all seriousness you railed against the zionist/US aggressors...but didn't address the issue. If the hezzies are operating from the same civil infrastructure as non-combatants, how do you destroy the hezzie infrastructure without upsetting BPEL and his mates? It's a fair question, I certainly don't have a workable answer. What do you suggest?

[OttawaLoneWolf]

I believe the oil refinry in Lebanon was bombed as well.

It could be a great economical assest to their country's development and led to a more stable regime, which might have the power to control its own country instead needing Israel's help.

I just don't see some of strategic target bombed by Israel are necessary at all. I am all for bombing the PLO camp and other " military " target but oil refinry and power plant is just not necessary, because it is vitial for the survival of normal citizens.

I have no solution nor opinion on bombing houses used by milita as launched base for their damn rockets. All I can say is those damn #@#$%. They are well aware what will happen to those houses after.

ps : I have Israel stamp on my passport too.

[BPEL]

What's a labneh factory? Anyway, without the Israelis where would your tourist industry be? Let's face it, they are 'return' customers.p-) You won't let me in just because of a mark on my passport.

Anyway, in all seriousness you railed against the zionist/US aggressors...but didn't address the issue. If the hezzies are operating from the same civil infrastructure as non-combatants, how do you destroy the hezzie infrastructure without upsetting BPEL and his mates? It's a fair question, I certainly don't have a workable answer. What do you suggest?

Labneh = Yogurt

They did the same thing in the Grapes of Wrath operation in 96.

The reason, in my view, is that the present Israeli strategic aims are much wider than fighting Hizbullah. Many rich Lebanese who began to bring back their money to Lebanon and invest it there are Christians, while the Shiites are a poor community. Thus, the Israeli economic interest, as interpreted by Peres, the inventor of the "New Middle East" slogan, demands that the Christian Lebanese investors be frightened and their investments damaged by the loss of electricity. Presumably, some at least among them will take their money out of Lebanon again.

Regarding the infrustructure...take a look at this:

you see any rocket launchers here?

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n64/paulwolfowitz/1y.gif


how about here?

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n64/paulwolfowitz/49.jpg

[Snoshi]

BPEL... The first picture shows Dahieh district.. I dont have to tell to you why it was bombed.. And in the last 4 pics i see bridges.. And now tell me a single conflict where the bridges were left standing?

[1911-a1]

Labneh = Yogurt

They did the same thing in the Grapes of Wrath operation in 96.

The reason, in my view, is that the present Israeli strategic aims are much wider than fighting Hizbullah. Many rich Lebanese who began to bring back their money to Lebanon and invest it there are Christians, while the Shiites are a poor community. Thus, the Israeli economic interest, as interpreted by Peres, the inventor of the "New Middle East" slogan, demands that the Christian Lebanese investors be frightened and their investments damaged by the loss of electricity. Presumably, some at least among them will take their money out of Lebanon again.

Regarding the infrustructure...take a look at this:

you see any rocket launchers here?




how about here?




i see plenty of rocket launchers in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC1am1kAgc&mode=related&search=

[Palmach]

Thus, the Israeli economic interest, as interpreted by Peres, the inventor of the "New Middle East" slogan, demands that the Christian Lebanese investors be frightened and their investments damaged by the loss of electricity. Presumably, some at least among them will take their money out of Lebanon again.

Sorry, but this asserting lacks any merit what so ever. Israel in no way benefits economically (or otherwise) from a poor Lebanon, in fact, a prosperous Lebanon integrated into the world economy and with substantial western investments would garantee on one hand political stability in the country and on the other hand would result in massive pressure (both demestic and international ) on Hezbolla to disarm so that peace and prosperity are preserved. Then ONLY way I see how Lebanese revival could be harmful to Israel involves Syrians working in Lebanon - the richer Lebanon gets the more money outflows to Syrian. However, its such a minor consideration that I wouldn't even consider it.

Bombing of factories and power stations has an obvious goal - to pressure the government to take action against Hezzis. Either Israel has to occupy virtually the entire Lebanon and smoke out H. fighters one by one OR Israel can make it more expansive for Lebanon to support H then to take control of the South away from them. Is it a perfect strategy? Maybe not, but there was and is nothing better on the table.

Finally, lets not get too carried away with the sad sight of "invading" Israeli soldiers. In 1982 Lebanon was invaded by PLO and Syria long before Israel joined the party and they did WAY more to rip the country apart.

[el_kab0ng]

<insult to injury>Just like the US, I don't believe Israel needs a reason to mop the floor with any of it's Arab "neighbors". Let me wack 6 million of your people and then tell you no.</insult to injury> :-P

[tanks_alot]

Pictures that were posted in Fresh.co.il by AlienwareIL.

Syrians improving positions.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4633/92857676xn6.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

IDF tanks going into firing positions.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2982/71070179pi8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Syrian tank that was hit by a helicopter missile.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1848/64445184do0.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

IDF forces on the way to taking Beirut's airport.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5263/59491343sn3.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Destroyed Syrian tank.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3433/79778811wg0.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5123/75641784qe7.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Beirut being bombed.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6483/40657720tw7.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1637/72966255nb0.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

The guy that originally posted these pictures, sitting on on a captured Syrian tank.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/5319/97707693cx4.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

On the way to Beirut.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6914/44317594if8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2205/19558873il8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Terrorist(the poster's words, so don't start arguing with me) mortar and RPG fire.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/199/84677523dz5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Syrians taking a hit.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3381/71200761zv5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Christian militia greeting the IDF.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/343/66904547rc6.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Burning Syrian tank.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/667/23185206ke4.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Suburbs of Beirut.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7277/49307373lp0.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Tank firing on a house with terrorists.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6124/41776988ln5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Abandoned Syrian camp.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9493/59934154tt5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Mobile artillery gun using direct fire.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1081/60159789ec1.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7299/46465802el3.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9951/34084837mh4.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Civilians escaping from the fighting.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9119/31092739ob6.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

On the way to Beirut's airport.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3788/30136916qk6.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8017/30534145bd2.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Captures Syrian AA gun.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8676/19436790ma1.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Beirut.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7249/96767691na1.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3233/62867114lq1.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

A plane that took a mortar hit in Beirut's airport.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2418/99110485ea8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5078/78677907gk4.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1984/85154015dx8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=235035

[tanks_alot]

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http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7090/14922949ju8.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Syrian snipers hits on an IDF outpost.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8586/46526048ms5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

Damaged Syrian tank.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6979/41284452ht5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3671/37346635aj0.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

[Mathieu29]

Pictures that were posted in Fresh.co.il by AlienwareIL.

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9493/59934154tt5.jpg (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/)

http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=235035

More information about the T-34/85 ? Is it a PLO (or Mourabituns) one or a Syrian one ? How many T-34 have been captured by the IDF ?

[tanks_alot]

More information about the T-34/85 ? Is it a PLO (or Mourabituns) one or a Syrian one ? How many T-34 have been captured by the IDF ?

The only info i can give you is what's wrriten on the picture itself: abandoned Syrian camp.

Sorry, wish i could tell you more.

[Mathieu29]

The only info i can give you is what's wrriten on the picture itself: abandoned Syrian camp.

Sorry, wish i could tell you more.
Thanks for the translation :).

You can see more T-34 in Lebanon here :
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=127237&page=11

[Mathieu29]

Hello.

Where can I find the video of the last post in this webpage (Fresh.co) ?

Link :
http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/sho...d.php?t=181134 (http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=181134)

Thanks.

[airforce87]

Hi do you Have a pictures of Israeli Air Force form that time ??

Thanks !

[Snoshi]

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/07.jpg
Map of Israeli-Syrian combat operations. Straight lines represent Israeli advances on 10th of July while punctured line represent Israeli advances on 11th of July.
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/10.jpg
Jeeps M151 MUTT with TOW launchers of the 409th Para Anti-tank Brigade the ones that destroyed between 9-12 Syrian T-72's
The place where the battle took place
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/11.jpg
What was left of Syrian T-72
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/12.jpg

Locations of Syrian T-72's and Israeli positions
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/13.jpg

[Mathieu29]

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/07.jpg
Map of Israeli-Syrian combat operations. Straight lines represent Israeli advances on 10th of July while punctured line represent Israeli advances on 11th of July.
The famous battle of Sultan Yaacub...



http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/t72-myth/10.jpg
Jeeps M151 MUTT with TOW launchers of the 409th Para Anti-tank Brigade the ones that destroyed between 9-12 Syrian T-72's
So, no confrontation between Israeli Merkava and Syrian T-72 ?

Did Tsahal capture any Syrian T-72 ?

[Snoshi]

The famous battle of Sultan Yaacub...
Famous because Syrians always over blow it. There were no "ambush" as many state it.. It was an Israeli mistake.
http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/Sultan-Yakub/map2.gif
Top yellow line shows where IDF force should have not continued to advanced.

IDF losses were. 5 killed from 362nd Battalion, 3 killed from 363rd Battalion and 10 killed from 880th Division.
7 tanks were destroyed from 362nd Battalion, 1 tank from 363rd Battalion and 2 tanks from 880th Division. Four M60's were recovered by Syria


So, no confrontation between Israeli Merkava and Syrian T-72 ?

Did Tsahal capture any Syrian T-72 ?
No and probably no, but there are some rumors that IDF captured one T-72 but sent it to USA.

[Mathieu29]

Famous because Syrians always over blow it. There were no "ambush" as many state it.. It was an Israeli mistake.http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/Sultan-Yakub/map2.gif
Top yellow line shows where IDF force should have not continued to advanced.
Snochi thanks for the map and these informations. Very interesting ! :).



and 2 tanks from 880th Division. Four M60's were recovered by Syria.
Yes. One of these M-60 is displayed in the Damascus Museum.



No and probably no, but there are some rumors that IDF captured one T-72 but sent it to USA.
So, the T-72 in Latrun Museum is not syrian ?

[Snoshi]

So, the T-72 in Latrun Museum is not syrian ?

AFAIK its from an Eastern European country.
There is a myth about the face off between T-72's and Merkava's. But in reality that never happened, Syrian T-72's never faced Merkavas and all the losses inflicted on T-72's were made by TOW ATGM's. Israel wanted to capture some T-72's that were left by Syrians, mission would include Israel commandos and some engineering forces who would load up one tank onto a special trailer. But operation never went ahead because IDF feared that Syrian commandos would stage an ambush.
Here is an account from an Israeli soldier who was there(translated by me)

"During the night we(IDF) wanted to tow away the remains of the first T-72 that was destroyed. But IDF units whose job it would be to tow away the tank did not think it was a "good" idea and that according to me(soldier) it would be impossible to move the remains of that tank because it had no tracks left and the operation was cancelled. But during the night a recon group was sent towards the T-72 to "investigate" it, but i thought that it was useless because the tank exploded and burned for several hours and after that there would not be much left to investigate.
All night we heard Syrian tanks moving at the range of approximately 2km away from our position, they were probably towing away the remains of the T-72's.

[Mathieu29]

Yes. One of these M-60 is displayed in the Damascus Museum.
Sorry, I was mistaken.
It's a M-48A-3 (Magach 3). (from the 362 Battalion)

[Mathieu29]

AFAIK its from an Eastern European country.
That confirms what I thought.



There is a myth about the face off between T-72's and Merkava's. But in reality that never happened, Syrian T-72's never faced Merkavas and all the losses inflicted on T-72's were made by TOW ATGM's. Israel wanted to capture some T-72's that were left by Syrians, mission would include Israel commandos and some engineering forces who would load up one tank onto a special trailer. But operation never went ahead because IDF feared that Syrian commandos would stage an ambush.
Here is an account from an Israeli soldier who was there(translated by me)
Thanks a lot Snochi.

[santana]

Video Peace of Galilee*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZdBXuFfKV0

*sorry if it is a repost

[Mathieu29]

TROOP CARRIER FLYING THE LEBANESE AND ISRAELI FLAGS PASSING A GROUP OF WOMEN WARMLY WELCOMING THE SOLDIERS TO THEIR VILLAGE IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9028.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm9019.jpg

This M-113 APC is from the Major Haddad South Lebanon Army (SLA).
More pictures of the SLA M-113 in june 1982 :
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x28/Flex29/Forum%20Tsahal/ALS/TroopsInvadeLebanonjuin82.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x28/Flex29/Forum%20Tsahal/ALS/regionofMetullaandNabatyehinsouthLe.jpg

[Mathieu29]

ISRAELI SOLDIER WITH A FALANGIST CHECKING LOCAL VEHICLE AT CHECKPOST IN LEBANON.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/Jogg/wwwm8904.jpg

This soldier isn't "Falangist" militiamen but a Lebanese army special force soldier (Sig-540, and Pakistani camo uniform). Perhaps the picture was taken near Baabda.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x28/Flex29/Forum%20Tsahal/Image112.png

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x28/Flex29/Forum%20Tsahal/Image116.png

[Tallgeese]

First thing first. There were hundreads of shia soldiers in the SLA
(with many Hizzbullah spies). Many of them were unedecuted
merceneries.

The hizzbulah fighters that kidanaped and killed the 3 Israeli soldiers used
UN vehicles and uniforms. The UN troops video taped the entire inicident.
For almost nine months, high ranking U.N. officials, including U.N. Middle East envoy Terje Larsen and U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, denied possessing any videotape related to the kidnapping

On July 6, 2001, the U.N. finally admitted that they possessed the tape as of 18 hours after the incident occurred.

http://judaism.about.com/library/1_terrorism/bl_hardov_un.htm


That's a flimbsy excuse & just as flimbsy a source. The fact is, the Israelis were kidnapped period, but not because of Hezbollah using UN disguises or whatever. Besides, is it the job of the UN to prevent kidnappings? They are 'peace keepers' not 'peace enforcers' remember.

Finally the Annan and Larsen didn't 'deny' they simply had no knowledge of such a tape.

[LEB101]

Phalangist where equiped by the IDF. The leaders and some militiamen were even trained inside israel.

I love your comments everyone is a terrorist. You invade a country you arrest people resisting the occupation in thousands and they are the terrorists? But the phalange that commited sabra and shatila and killed hundres of men simply because they were muslim in 1 day are "allies". Wow what a load of crap.
but the PLO and syrians who killed thousands in darmour simpliy becuase they were christians are heros right

[LEB101]

"your mom is a load of crap" whoever left that comment for me, be a man and leave your name next time. Don't be a pussy and hide :)

DeathForSale you can love and support whoever you want but you did not have to worry about being stopped on a checkpoint and have your head cut off, dipped in acid, or have nails hammered into your skull simply because your id card said muslim on it.

Midav sabra and shatila was an organized massacare for 2 days. It was systematic killing and raping of people. The reason why Israelis are blamed is because they had the area sarrounded, they itercepted radio transmissions and yet did nothing to stop it. They were the occupying force it was their responsibility.

It wasnt the only massacare it was one of many. And I know the damour massacare who doesnt. Comparing the massacares between the phalange and the other side (whether it was the communists, plo, leftist, muslims, orthodox christians etc...) the phalange (Lebanese Forces, Kateb, cedar gaurds etc..) killed more people civilians based on their religion than anyone else. The druze did commit ****ed up massacares nobody denies that. But then again the druze threw rice on idf soldeirs, I wonder why.


The lebanese that resisted the occputaion were terrorists too?


did the lebanese ever resist the syrian takeover in any way?

The syrians fought everyone in lebanon. But the most know "resistance" was carried out by the Lebanese Army Commander, General Aoun. For 5 or more years the Syrian air force was not allowed to fly over lebanon. Somehow they managed to fly over lebanon that day and bombed the presidential palace without anyone intercepting them.....

I doubt he wrote the captions.

if thats the case then i take my comments back.
hahah your funny the phlange cut peoples head off that sounds familiar to something the PLO would do to lebanese both christian and muslims you are so brianwahsed so full of hate so full of propanganda that you cant even have a normal conversation without being public hypocrite number ONE . everyone knows the palistinains your so called heros are the ones who started killing people fist . they started killing christians in 1973 but the killed shias in the south from 1969-1982 . at least thats what my grandpa told me and hes never left south lebanon so i think he would knoe

[LEB101]

wat religion are the Phalangists?? I did three tours to lebanon with the UN and in the surrounding hills around south Lebanon amoung the UN post were what we called the DFF(defaco Forces).they were the christian (Lebanese)militla for the IDF and were hated.

Every so often when they got board they wound open up with 50 cals near or around local villages scaring the locals.

Every harvest time we had to stay with farmers until they collected their harvest because the DFF had a nasty habit of shooting at the crops to burn them.

I remember manning a swing gate at the boarder between Naquara-Roshineckra(wrong spelling)boarder.We had to open the gate for Un personal only.A Dff soldier in civvis walked up to the gate with a pistol cursing me in Arabic.I knew wat he said and was going to reply in kind but as i was not armed im sure if i did i would have been shot.

there was another gate about two hundred meters from me on the lebanese boarder side that was manned by a Ghanain Sgt who was also not armed so i decided to stay quiet.

The Dff have Irish Blood on their hands.After the Battle of Atiri were the dff tried to over run an Irish UN position they were beaten back.approx a week or so later an Irish patrol came across a dff checkpoint/patrol,One of the members of the dff patrol had a relative killed during the Battle of Atiri and wanted revenge.

overwhelming odds the Irish had no choice but to put weapons down..it was then when the dff brought them to a house and shot them in cold blood.

the militia who pulled the trigger was protected by the Isrealies and sprited outta the country.he now works as an ice cream man in New york.
most of thoes were shia and druze near the naqura was run by shia and druze most east toward shebba was run by christian . sunni and shia

[LEB101]

The SLA (defaco forces we called them)were nothing more than Isrealie lapdogs
only 30 percent were christian the rest were shia . the shia ones were the nasty ones im not trying to be sectarian but they caused the most harm to the civilians near us lived 2 brothers both shia in the intllignce for the SLA and they did what ever they wanted when israel pulled out there houses were burned down by there own family members

[LEB101]

Sorry man but i don't call shelling villages during grapes of wrath and for that matter a certain UN post peace!!!!

What about the rest of the SLA..there is alot more than 2500??

please explain UNIFIL helping kidnap Isreali Soldiers??

First i ever heard of it.

We also lost a lot of good men in south Lebanon doing their job..
the sla was 3000 thats not alot more than 2500

[LEB101]

notice in the pictures how the israelis help little kids that need medical attention , shake hands and hold little kids and give them candy . if that was hezbollah or some palistinain he would have shot the kid and beheaded the mom . or drowned the mom and crushed the little babys head(samir kuntar) it just shows the diffrence in the people. its not qantity that counts its quality

[LEB101]

I have question.
Why when there is battle in south Lebanon in 1990-2000 the IDF make revenge on Lebanese civilian by bombing electricity station?

Every time emir from Kuwait or Saudi give money to fix electricity station.
IDF wait until it is fixed and then bomb again after month.

Is there military reason?
have hezbollah fire a roket into syria and see what the ****ing syrians do

[LEB101]

you are a dumbass. the taef agreement stated that everyone that took part in the civil war was to take part in the government. hobeika later became pro syrian like the rest of the leaders in lebanon.


Bragging about sleeping with a labenase girl oh noeeeeee damn that realy hurts my feelings. Did you know that 60% of the SLA was shia? I bet you didn't. That still doesnt mean they weren't traitors.


Battle of khalde
if you don't know what it was then go ask your friends and commanders in the idf they will tell you about it.

Israeli Retaliation before
The IDF used to attack beirut everytime hezbollah attacked one of their posts. It wasnt because they attacked their cities. They figured that if they attack beirut hezbollah would lose its support and the lebanese would slowly tell hezbollah to stop resisting the idf. But the lebanese were smarter and continued their support. So the IDF strategy failed.


Israeli Retaliation today
hezbollah attacks any post they want and the IDf only threatens. meaning they wont do ****.

Why the katyusha
Whenever the IDF or the SLA bombed villages or killed civilians the retaliation was firing rockets on nothern israel. Basicaly an eye for an eye. If they didn't do that then israel, and the sla would consider where the bomb is going land before firing it. And that meant minimizing lebanese casualties. You terrorize lebanon with your planes, artillary, bombs etc, and the response was terrorizing northern israel with katyusha. A very simple concept. Not because hezbollah randomly fired katyushas whenever they felt like it.
evething you said in the last part was the total opposite of the truth hezbollah fired 1st mostly at rnadom just trying to fulfill irans promises of destorying lebanon and making lebanon an iranian colony

[Mathieu29]

LEB 101, do you know that you are on MilitaryPHOTOS.net, "Strictly Photos & Video".

Maybe you can post photos of the Israeli army, the South Lebanon Army or the PLO fighters? And not publish comments without interest.
If you have any military pictures of the 1982 war, you can post them, it will be great.

Everyone is on this forum is capable of having its own idea on the 1982 Lebanon war, and nobody need your comments.

[Sirpad]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9554/2214pz7.jpg
203mm cannon direct fire into beirut

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6430/58221540jl2.jpg
240mm russian-made rockets launched against PLO positions

[alexz]

That's a flimbsy excuse & just as flimbsy a source. The fact is, the Israelis were kidnapped period, but not because of Hezbollah using UN disguises or whatever. Besides, is it the job of the UN to prevent kidnappings? They are 'peace keepers' not 'peace enforcers' remember.

Finally the Annan and Larsen didn't 'deny' they simply had no knowledge of such a tape.

Annan had the tape in his personal safe, so there goes that theory.


http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/07/06/mideast.tape/index.html

[Tallgeese]

Annan had the tape in his personal safe, so there goes that theory.


http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/07/06/mideast.tape/index.html

So what? It doesn't prove the point it merely states that a tape existed, but it's stated according to the Israeli viewpoint. To suggest that they denied that the tape existed when in fact the UN SG may not have known of its existence does not amount to denial. Besides, the tape may (or may not) contain the evidence the Israelis want, it's actually quite odious to assume that the UN 'cooperated' with Hezbollah.

[gangplank6]

These are some excellent pictures. Please post more!!!!

[Tallgeese]

Annan had the tape in his personal safe, so there goes that theory.


http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/07/06/mideast.tape/index.html


Do you believe everything you hear or read? As if UN Sec. Generals hide video tapes in their 'personal safe' & so on. The UN investigated the incident, & the US media (the same that has no credibility) began with their stories to attract viewers & sponsors. That's how CNN or FOX work.

On another (related) note, the Lebanese dominated media in the Arab world, did its best to divert all the blame from the Lebanese Forces to the Israelis, & in turn that meant that the Lebanese got away with everything. Israel learned why the Lebanese are the worst allies, & Palestinians why Lebanese are the worst friends.

[Hydra]

How to resuscitate a good ol' thread (let's keep it civilized)

Ariel Sharon and Chief of Staff 'Raful' Eytan, four day before the war
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1364/ur00106826b7b47fs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A huge cloud of smoke rises over the southern city of Sidon as Israeli war planes pound PLO positions around the city - June 6, 1982
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4748/be0240491e567falq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli soldier standing in Sidon
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6162/py0010121fa8c16nu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

An IDF soldier inspects a hidden weapons cache left behind by the PLO in Sidon
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5083/jr0023632fbfc33tk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF vehicules Entering Damour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damour_massacre) in June 1982 (click on Damour)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5936/aaec00152627902f6nk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Disabled Syrian Tank in Behamdoun, Lebanon
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9173/ur0024242cc0a84zw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF Forces Move into West Beirut where Arafat PLO headquarter is located - June 1982
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4374/ur0024051b1575dbc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6877/ur0024041cfbb55th0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8058/ur0024111c7745frk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A row of Israeli Merkava moving into Beirut
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9436/ur0024071d8989eyb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli Tank taking position Outside Beirut Museum, W. Beirut
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7997/ur0024161b387c9kh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9364/ur0024141c7245bdn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, in combat helmet and flak jacket rides in APC leading his troops to a hookup with Christian forces in East Beirut. Israel has virtually cutoff Palestinian guerrillas and Syrian troops in Beirut.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4006/u20851751f5b215ns4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Israeli soldiers keep watch over Baabda, the presidential palace in Beirut
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9034/aaec0013862dbff2csl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IDF 175mm canons aiming toward PLO stronghold in W. Beirut
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3637/ur0024222cc73cdzr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6696/u20870321e6b097ne0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

IAF bombardment over PLO targets in W. Beirut - July 1982
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/617/be0240492c994b2gs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4210/ur0024191e577f7if7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)


IDF troops marching in West Beirut after the assassination of the Head of the Lebanese Forces Bechir Gemayel. Gemayel had just been elected President of Lebanon - September 1982
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9421/dwf152698451fd1466dh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8555/dwf152698441ff95f1es0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7852/dwf152698382c16e26ql3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3154/dwf152698212006ff5xx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8162/dwf152698432d210f0oq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7905/dwf152698391ff8a29zw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/566/dwf152698241ffa6c9qy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5787/dwf152698421ffcb39yh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1076/dwf152698402d272d6rd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8981/dwf152698371d45fcfcl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Group of Lebanese Soldiers in Beirut - 1982 (dunno the precise date)
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1982/tl0367381b3dcfeyb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/896/tl0367391ba0970kz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Soldiers of the Kataeb phalanx pose in front of a large crucifix in Beirut - October 1982
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2674/00001894480072e10fcewa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
3rd picture from the bottom. Those are not Lebanese soldiers maybe AMAL, but not LAF. Those look more like Palestinians. Lebanese don't look like that!

[gangplank6]

Can we get some more photos up in here and keep this thread going? I found a few and will try uploading them later.

[gangplank6]

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/1150710679_6cad489019_b.jpg

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/1151553668_902c9eb8d6_b.jpg
Beaufort Castle June 1982 (notice the Lebanese flag flying in the upper right hand corner of the photo)
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/1150714313_c0ffcdc3e7_b.jpg
Phalangist with IDF Soldier at Beaufort Castle June 1982
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/June782Bofor.jpg
IDF Soldiers at Beaufort Castle June 7th, 1982 (weapon in foreground appears to be a SAR/ Glilon with wooden handguard)
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/0612490.jpg

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/gangplank6/0612489.jpg
Downed Syrian Gazelle (notice the empty HOT missile racks)