Whats the Israeli Equivalent to US rangers?

[Sayeret]

Whats the Israeli equivlent of US rangers and Delta force?

[EvanL]

Whats the Israeli equivlent of US rangers and Delta force?I believe the israelis can correct me if im wrong but in Tsahal (IDF) the unit equivalent to the US rangers would be Sayaret Golani, and the equivalent of Delta force would be Sayaret Mat'kal.
Im sure i am off a bit.

[Javehn]

Well , what is the difference between rangers and regular infantry , which quantity of them exists , and to whom those unit belonging (subordination speaking ) ?

[mack pl]

I guess Rangers are jumpers(airborne), regular infantry not,maybe in Israel every infantrymen could jump-but i guess only one time in his life ;) Pozdro :lol:

[S'13]

Sayeret Tzanhanim is the Israeli equivlent of the U.S Rangers.

Read more here: http://www.specwarnet.com/world/st.htm

[haze99]

Good work S'13!

Mack Pl, unlike most armies, were only those who will be paratroopers, attend paratrooper training. The US Army is different, any specialty may attend Airborne Training. And not all (50%?) go to the 82nd Abn Div.

A US soldier could become paratrooper (Airborne) qualified and go to, say the 1st Cav Div. Or even 1st PERSCOM (Personnel Command)

The assignement after airborne training depends on your specialty and or numbers needed at a given unit. i.e Division, Brigade, or Battalion.
May seem odd, but thats the system.

[johnnysix]

Rangers are light infantry with special mission capabilities, almost like marines. They work closely in support of other special operations forces, and work on airfield seizures/target acquisition too. Regular infantry are the groundpounders that seize key locations and hold key terrain and areas in support of their command. There are more regular infantry than rangers, mainly because of the specialized mission. Also, like stated before, anybody could become a paratrooper, not just rangers, but, you can't be a ranger without becoming airborne first, or at least that's my assumption, any takers?

[haze99]

To my knowledge, yes. To enter the US Army's 75th Ranger Regiment. You will have to attend Airborne Training. (if you have not already)
To even get into the 75th you must complete RIP; Ranger Indoctrination Program. That is just to enter, later you WILL attend the Ranger School!

*To attend the US Army Ranger Course, you do not need to be Airborne qualified, nor do you have to be assigned to the 75th Rgr Regt. (I have known a couple soldiers who were not)

PS-Marines, sailors (SEAL's) and airmen (PJ, CCT & CWT) can and have attended Ranger School.

[Jack Mehoff]

Rangers are light infantry with special mission capabilities, almost like marines. They work closely in support of other special operations forces, and work on airfield seizures/target acquisition too. Regular infantry are the groundpounders that seize key locations and hold key terrain and areas in support of their command. There are more regular infantry than rangers, mainly because of the specialized mission. Also, like stated before, anybody could become a paratrooper, not just rangers, but, you can't be a ranger without becoming airborne first, or at least that's my assumption, any takers?

And you ****tin' me :roll:

Marines:
Civilian--->11 weeks bootcamp---->3 weeks MCT---->[#weeks]MOS school--->Marines

Army Rangers:
Civilian----->9 weeks basic training--->5 weeks infantry AIT---->3 weeks airborne--->handpicked for Ranger school--->9 weeks Ranger school---->75% drop out rate---->Abn Rangers

[Jack Mehoff]

I guess Rangers are jumpers(airborne), regular infantry not,maybe in Israel every infantrymen could jump-but i guess only one time in his life ;) Pozdro :lol:

There are regular airborne infantry like the boys from 82nd, 101st (air assault), 173rd Infantry Brigade (separate)

[johnnysix]

Rangers are like marines in that they're special operations capable. Marines are not a special operations force, they're light infantrymen with that capability. As such, because they're both light infantry, they're a bit alike.

[Jack Mehoff]

Rangers are like marines in that they're special operations capable. Marines are not a special operations force, they're light infantrymen with that capability. As such, because they're both light infantry, they're a bit alike.

There are all kind of Marines with different jobs, but there is only one kind of Army Ranger.

I did not know a Marine truck driver or mechanic is special operation capable :backhand:

[NcDeuce]

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[memphiz]

http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/lmg/negev/negevplat.htm
interesting Isreal site

[Whisper]

I served with 1st/75th, back in the day you could be a "foot/leg" ranger, now however you can not. Jumping is a part of the insertions during the mock up training ops. You have to be able to static from a jet/plane and a helo. Marines and Rangers are nothing alike btw. Marines have a very different job, and not even a majority of them are spec ops capable. Ranger school is very tough but it is only the begining of your trainnig as a ranger. When you get into the regiment, your training is non-stop and only gets more specialized. Each battalion has a breakdown of special units inside itself. From company, platoon, to squad sized elements. All of them work together, but serve as special teams for particular missions. Such as combat dive teams, CQB, CSAR, security forces, recon/scouting units, and so on. Nothing against the marines, i know more than a few. But theres no way you can really compare those two units, not even on a PT level.

[johnnysix]

that's not what i meant; they're both SO capable, but first and foremost, they're mostly security and seizure. one of my best friends is a ranger c 3/75, and he told me much the same. no, they're not truck drivers and support, but they have much the same missions when it comes to providing for upper echelon soc units, as far as 11a/b's go. no, i don't want to hear jackmeoff's logic, cos he's ignorant anyway. in going back to the israeli equivalent, i don't honestly know, but if i knew i'd let you know, maybe that crazy winged cat insignia posted elsewhere would help.

[Ranger175]

Army Rangers:
Civilian----->9 weeks basic training--->5 weeks infantry AIT---->3 weeks airborne--->R.I.P--->3 weeks(only 29 out of 88 in my class made it!)--->Off to a Ranger Batt. i.e. 1/75, 2/75, 3/75----->6 to 18 months till you go to Ranger School---->Pre Ranger School-->3 weeks----> Now you finally get to Ranger school---->58 to 72 days long... they are always changing the course....75% drop out rate---->Abn Rangers----> Now you have your TAB and back to your Batt for more training!

[Dennis G]

Army Rangers:
Civilian----->9 weeks basic training--->5 weeks infantry AIT---->3 weeks airborne--->R.I.P--->3 weeks(only 29 out of 88 in my class made it!)--->Off to a Ranger Batt. i.e. 1/75, 2/75, 3/75----->6 to 18 months till you go to Ranger School---->Pre Ranger School-->3 weeks----> Now you finally get to Ranger school---->58 to 72 days long... they are always changing the course....75% drop out rate---->Abn Rangers----> Now you have your TAB and back to your Batt for more training!

I was just about to ask something about this process.
So you go to your batt. Before your even are a Ranger. Why do they have you spend 6-18 months before going to Ranger school? I thought that you had to get the tab then join the regiment.

[Jack Mehoff]

that's not what i meant; they're both SO capable, but first and foremost, they're mostly security and seizure. one of my best friends is a ranger c 3/75, and he told me much the same. no, they're not truck drivers and support, but they have much the same missions when it comes to providing for upper echelon soc units, as far as 11a/b's go. no, i don't want to hear jackmeoff's logic, cos he's ignorant anyway.


One of your best friend? Care to tell me your military background? that if you even have any

:roll:


You're telling me USMC's 0121 Personnel Clerk or 0411 is the equivalent of Army's 11B3V?? :roll:

Dumbass!!!


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johnnysix wrote:
no, they're not truck drivers and support, but they have much the same missions when it comes to providing for upper echelon soc units, as
Of course they are not truck drivers, but you said Marines are equal to Army Rangers. Now go back to your Playstation little boy!!!


Rangers are like marines in that they're special operations capable. Marines are not a special operations force, they're light infantrymen with that capability. As such, because they're both light infantry, they're a bit alike.


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[Ranger175]

Going to Ranger School and being an Army Ranger are two different things, this is very hard for many to understand. Anyone may attend the Army Ranger School, it is just a school not unlike airborne school, pathfinder, air assault.... To be in a Ranger Batt. is something very different, if you go to Ranger School you are Ranger qualified, at that is it. If you are in a Ranger Batt you do Ranger missions and so on. You have to wait for 6-18 months because as a Pvt. you are placed on a order of merit list as other go off to school you move up the list, plus you have to prove that you can make it in the the unit also.

[johnnysix]

alright cool guy, lay off. yes, i have a military background, any business of yours how? no. this is an internet site, not my promotion board. marine infantry is what i meant, like ranger infantry. there are ranger batt support positions, as they have support platoons- as such, there are marine support positions. anyway, i'm sure this makes no lick of sense to you, but then again, who cares what someone like you figures. i'm sorry for the grumbling all, but some internet Nerds really get me sometimes.

[Jack Mehoff]

Nah, everything I learn is from my best friend http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/smilies/lol.gif

Yes, i'm a nerd. A nerd can hack your computer and break you in half all in one click