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LaoSexMachine
01-18-2006, 11:05 AM
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UN troops flee Ivory Coast town
Bangladeshi United Nations peacekeepers have pulled out of a camp in western Ivory Coast after clashing with supporters of President Laurent Gbagbo.
Four people are reported to have been killed after a UN base in Guiglo, 300km (187 miles) from Abidjan, was attacked.
After three days of protests the crisis is escalating, with youths surrounding UN and French buildings in Abidjan, the main city, a BBC correspondent says.
Gbagbo supporters are angry at attempts to dissolve parliament.
International mediators this week recommended that parliament, whose mandate has expired, be discontinued.

IVORY COAST CONFLICT
2002, Sept: Dissident soldiers fail to overthrow President Gbagbo, but rebels seize north of country
2003, May: Armed forces sign ceasefire with rebel groups
2004, Nov: Ivorian air force attacks rebels; French forces destroy parts of Ivorian air force after nine of their soldiers killed. Violent anti-French protests ensue, prompting thousands of Westerners to leave
2005, Oct: Planned elections shelved as President Gbagbo invokes a law which he says allows him to stay in power


The BBC's James Copnall, in Abidjan, says the national assembly is one of Mr Gbagbo's last power bases in divided Ivory Coast.
Following the mediators' move, the ruling party pulled out of the transitional government and UN-backed peace talks, and called on the 10,000 French and UN peacekeepers the peace to leave.
The country has been split in two since a failed coup attempt in 2002. Ivorian rebels, who control the north, say the country is on the brink of war.
Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo is due to arrive in Ivory Coast on Wednesday for talks with Mr Gbagbo about the latest crisis.
'Defended themselves'
In the early hours of Wednesday, the UN base at Guiglo was besieged by youths supporting President Gbagbo, known as "Young Patriots".
The 300-strong Bangladeshi peacekeeping force stationed there responded with force.
"They had to defend themselves," said Captain Gilles Combarieu, a UN military observer.
"I know there are four from among the attackers [who were killed]," UN spokeswoman Margherita Amodeo told *******.

The UN decided to abandon the base and the peacekeepers were being withdrawn to the demilitarised zone further north, Capt Combarieu said.
Our correspondent says the Young Patriots are also now in control of virtually all the main streets in Abidjan.
For a third day, youths are stopping cars and checking identity papers at roadblocks. There is little public transport , and debris from Tuesday's unrest is strewn across roads.
Despite a ban on street demonstrations, the Ivorian security forces have not acted to stop the protests. There have been few violent incidents but Abidjan and several other cities are paralysed.
France expressed concern and called for calm.
'Putsch'
International mediators were appointed by the UN to help steer the country towards elections, due this year.
But the ruling Ivorian Popular Front (FPI) accused the international community of carrying out a "constitutional coup d'etat".
A spokesman for the rebel New Forces, which hold the north, responded: "There is not a future for Ivory Coast if the FPI succeeds in making a putsch against the peace process. That means war."
Our correspondent says the crisis is the biggest test faced by Prime Minister Charles Konan Banny since his appointment last month.
Analysts say by calling for the dissolution of parliament, international mediators intended to strengthen Mr Banny's authority and ensure that hostile deputies did not block attempts to implement the peace process, as happened last year.
The elections had been due last October but had to be postponed because of the continued instability.


Published: 2006/01/18 15:54:54 GMT

© BBC MMVI

micronazi
01-18-2006, 11:17 AM
If the UN is unable to keep the peace with peacekeepers and is not wanted by the government in power. Why are they still there? they aren't going to do anything to help the rebels or the president other than make reccomendations. UN forces serve no point in most countries in my opinion. Hell, the UN is pointless completely in my opinion, they just talk and never really do anything for anyone.

Regards,
micronazi

Grimmer
01-18-2006, 11:25 AM
Time to send in the FFL 2nd REP P-)

Noble713
01-18-2006, 12:03 PM
Time to send in the FFL 2nd REP P-)

Didn't they send in the Legion when this whole mess started? I seem to remember reading that they the smallish (several hundred or so?) Legion force they deployed handily kicked the crap out of everyone they ran into. Clearly they should have stayed....

moughoun
01-18-2006, 12:11 PM
If the UN is unable to keep the peace with peacekeepers and is not wanted by the government in power. Why are they still there? they aren't going to do anything to help the rebels or the president other than make reccomendations. UN forces serve no point in most countries in my opinion. Hell, the UN is pointless completely in my opinion, they just talk and never really do anything for anyone.

Regards,
micronazi
IT is not the UN, but some of the countries who contribute forces to mission's, incompetent would be charitable in a lot of cases, the Bangaladeshi case being one, when troop's from skilled militaries do the mission it work's, case in point, the Irish and Swedish in Liberia, 1000 troop's whove stabalised the place, of course most of the other contributing nation's there are crap:roll:, btw, is the UN is pointless completely in my opinion,
they just talk and never really do anything for anyone. the un's fault, or the Countries that make it up, you're mine every body's, the UN is just the town hall to meet at, it has no power to impose anything unless Countries agree

fantassin
01-18-2006, 01:09 PM
The FFL is a very small part, non permanent too, of the French contingent in Ivory Coast. During the November 2004 combats, the 2°REP arrived too late to take part in the fight.
They instead landed on an airport which had been defended and mopped up by a mechanized unit, the 35°Régiment d'Infanterie.
Yes, there is MUCH more to the French army than the FFL.

Resurrection
01-18-2006, 02:31 PM
Does the Swedish & Irish QRF have any jurisdiction whatsoever in Côte d'Ivoire? Like if things get bad enough in a neigbouring country would they be able to go in there?

fantassin
01-18-2006, 02:36 PM
If things get bad, there are about 4,000 French soldiers there just for the purpose of backing the UN troops.

Resurrection
01-18-2006, 02:38 PM
Oh ok

(filler)

ed316
01-18-2006, 02:40 PM
If things get bad, there are about 4,000 French soldiers there just for the purpose of backing the UN troops.

I think fleeing a town is bad enough, but that just me

ed316
01-18-2006, 03:23 PM
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Supporters of President Gbagbo want the UN peacekeepers to leave Ivory Coast.

Inconnu
01-18-2006, 04:51 PM
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Supporters of President Gbagbo want the UN peacekeepers to leave Ivory Coast.

yes, they prefer the French soldiers ^^

Kingswat
01-18-2006, 07:33 PM
Didn't the FFL slaughter a ****load of them the last time they were there?

seva108
01-18-2006, 07:38 PM
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LaoSexMachine
01-18-2006, 07:39 PM
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yeah and then they would turn on us too

Inconnu
01-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Didn't the FFL slaughter a ****load of them the last time they were there?

Yes more than 20 died by bullet and in the moin 50 died by smothering because of the crowd which had to panic.
I know more if it were the legion or another unit.

Who has the video one of this moment?

Zarathustra
01-19-2006, 12:27 AM
They're just losing another war, as usual. They have been good at it since 1870.

Inconnu
01-19-2006, 12:31 AM
They're just losing another war, as usual. They have been good at it since 1870.

about which war do speak you ?

DeltaEagle911
01-19-2006, 03:15 AM
about which war do speak you ?

Ouch, that's one skewed sentance.

But I'm guessing since he said 1780, he probably only means the Napoleonic wars, the Franco-Prussian war, WWI (almost), WWII and the Indochina war.

Not that I'm condoning any France bashing, I always thought the whole fad was pretty pathetic. Bashing nations as a whole is stupid, period.

Zarathustra
01-19-2006, 03:27 AM
about which war do speak you ?

Is OMEGA7 you're english teacher ?

Zarathustra
01-19-2006, 03:30 AM
Anyways : France is losing it's influence in Africa, litlle by little, in the future, countries like Ivory Coast, Senegal, Nigeria will turn to America.

mwarf
01-19-2006, 03:35 AM
Didn't the FFL slaughter a ****load of them the last time they were there?
It wasn't the FFl but the RICM (troupes de marine) who shoot on the crowd to protect the Hotel Ivoire, it was the regiment which was bombarded and who had 9 death.

DeltaEagle911
01-19-2006, 03:48 AM
Is OMEGA7 you're english teacher ?

*your.....

Olybrius
01-19-2006, 06:17 AM
If the UN is unable to keep the peace with peacekeepers and is not wanted by the government in power. Why are they still there? they aren't going to do anything to help the rebels or the president other than make reccomendations. UN forces serve no point in most countries in my opinion. Hell, the UN is pointless completely in my opinion, they just talk and never really do anything for anyone.

Regards,
micronazi

no ...
The government in power is leaded by the prime minister Charles Konan Banny. The UN backup Banny and the UN and the Ivorian government work together. On the other hand, the Ivorian president , Gbagbo, is losing ground and power and he 's more acting now as an opponent to Banny. So, the current riots are organized by Gbagbo's entourage and caused by his own milices called 'the patriots'.
By trying to marginalize Gbagbo, UN does the right thing , they should send more peacekeepers.

martinexsquaddie
01-19-2006, 06:29 AM
the UN's mandate is very strict to be all most useless.
the troops are usually very lightly armed and out numbered there job is peace monitoring not peace enforcement.
if the member states were serious about UN peacekeeping missions you'd find more western troops with the right sort of it.
there not and the UN can't afford that sort of level of equipment.
the UN is fairly impotent because member states like it that way has the US actually paid its back owed cash to the UN yet?

Inconnu
01-19-2006, 03:37 PM
Anyways : France is losing it's influence in Africa, litlle by little, in the future, countries like Ivory Coast, Senegal, Nigeria will turn to America.

rofl .

roland
01-19-2006, 05:53 PM
Anyways : France is losing it's influence in Africa, litlle by little, in the future, countries like Ivory Coast, Senegal, Nigeria will turn to America.

what do you want to speak about ? the UN in Ivory Coast, the French military since 1870 or the geostrategy of France in Africa ? despite we all listen what you say very carefully since you look very clever, you can't speak of all the subject at the same time in 2 or 3 line for each you know ?