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uhramechi
01-21-2006, 03:18 PM
No Left Turn
Alvaro Vargas Llosa
New York Times, Dallas Morning News

Washington—IN 1781, an Aymara Indian, Tupac Katari, led an uprising against Spanish rule in Bolivia and lay siege to La Paz. He was captured and killed by having his limbs tied to four horses that pulled in opposite directions. Before dying, he prophesied, "I will come back as millions." To judge by the overwhelming victory of Evo Morales, an Aymara demagogue, in Bolivia's elections on Dec. 18, he kept his promise.

Mr. Morales's election has been interpreted as confirmation that South America is moving left. Mr. Morales does not hide his admiration for Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez, and his proposals include the nationalization of the oil industry, the redistribution of some privately owned estates and the decriminalization of coca plantations in the Chapare region. He opposes the Free Trade Area of the Americas and blasts "neoliberalism."

It would be a mistake, however, to think that Mr. Morales will become another Hugo Chávez even if that is his wish. The new Bolivian president will not have the resources that Venezuela commands and his popular base is shakier. Moreover, Brazil has an important presence in Bolivia and will be in a position to exercise a moderating influence.

Unlike Venezuela, where skyrocketing oil prices brought Mr. Chávez a windfall that allowed him to build a strong social network based on patronage, Bolivia has little revenue. The only reason its fiscal account is not showing a $1 billion deficit is foreign aid, mainly from the United States. Because Mr. Morales's followers toppled the two previous presidents and forced the authorities to impose heavy royalties on multinational companies exploiting natural gas, foreign investment has dried up: only $84 million worth of investment came into the country this year.

And the possibility of suddenly turning Bolivia's natural gas reserves (potentially a whopping 52 trillion cubic feet) into an exporting bonanza has been precluded by the cancellation of a project that sought to export natural gas to Mexico and California through Chilean ports. (Bolivia and Chile have been at odds since the late 19th century, when Bolivia lost its access to the sea to Chile in the War of the Pacific.)

Bolivia's indigenous population, which wants results quickly, may also hold Mr. Morales in check. His party, Movement Toward Socialism, is a loose amalgam of competing social groups. If Mr. Morales tries to concentrate power, he will need a sturdy, permanent base of support that is by no means guaranteed. Furthermore, the residents of many provinces, especially in the east, are agitating for local autonomy and have warned that they will resist attempts to centralize even more power in La Paz.

Bolivia has had left-wing governments before that were toppled by the same people who made them possible. President Carlos Mesa, who replaced Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada in 2003 after violent demonstrations, had the support of the population when he reneged on natural gas contracts with foreign investors and led a virulent campaign against Chile. Yet the masses still turned against him, forcing his resignation in June.

Finally, Brazil's pragmatic president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, could also constrain Mr. Morales's ambitions. Brazil is now effectively Bolivia's only foreign investor, and its role is likely to grow even more crucial, because Mr. Morales promises to nationalize the subsoil and keep the high royalties on oil and natural gas exploitation that have kept out investors from other countries. Bolivia therefore will need Petrobras, the Brazilian energy giant, to expand its investments. Mr. da Silva has not been able to rein in Mr. Chávez, but he will have leverage over the more vulnerable Mr. Morales.

Of course, whether Mr. Morales will draw closer to Mr. Chávez will in part depend on American policy toward Bolivia. And that, in turn, will depend on whether Mr. Morales decriminalizes coca growing. If he does so, the United States should not overreact, because nothing much will change. Even with the restrictions that are in place now, there are already as many plantations in Chapare as the demand for coca—and Bolivia's capacity to make cocaine from it—warrant. In any case, cocaine production and distribution will still be banned in Bolivia, Mr. Morales says. If Washington were to respond to coca decriminalization by hindering Bolivia's exports of clothing and jewelry to the United States, tens of thousands of families in El Alto, one of Mr. Morales's indigenous power bases, would lose their source of income, and anti-American sentiment would pull Mr. Morales leftward.

Thomas Shannon, assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, recently told me that the United States aims to eliminate its remaining protectionist measures (which hamper some South American economies by restricting United States imports of their goods). Few Latin Americans have heard about this endeavor. If the goal is to promote development and foster good relations across the hemisphere, eliminating protectionist policies will be far more effective than making coca plantations the paramount issue in Bolivia-United States relations. Fractious politics and ethnic tensions already make for a delicate situation in the Andes. Let's not make it worse.


This article reflective the really problem of latinamerica, always have been many center left goverment, and sadly now ara changing for radical leftish.

nognig
01-21-2006, 06:03 PM
It is really sad. Please name one country that has achieved a high standard of living for it's citizens through left wing economic policies?

You'd think they would have learned from the failure of the USSR and the capitalist revolution happening in China.

NN

Lazarou
01-21-2006, 06:22 PM
It is really sad. Please name one country that has achieved a high standard of living for it's citizens through left wing economic policies?

http://www.pcposnordic.com/upload/3579/Map%20Nordic.jpg

;)

Rictor
01-21-2006, 10:28 PM
1. Bolivia does not depend solely on Brazil for investment. You can bet that Venezeula will invest like crazy, and China has already shown a keen interest in developing Bolivia's natural gas infrastructure. Moreover, Bolivia seems to have good relations with major European powers such as Spain and France, as seen by Morales' recent visits to those and other countries. In fact, if you check the Wikipedia page for Evo Morales, near the bottom you will see that both Brazil and the EU have made economic cooperation deals with Bolivia during Evo's trips abroad.

2. From what I have seen, Lula has no desire to "reign in" either Venezuela or Bolivia. Remember that his roots are thoroughly left-wing, and his own party is as left as MAS or Chavez's MVR. Lula is a pragmatist, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the same goals as Evo Morales. It's just that he's the diplomat, and tries to avoid conflict or controntation. But that doesn't mean he's suddenly going to turn against his allies, or his own constituent base. The US has made several attempts to isolate Venezuela and all have failed, specificallly because both Brazil and Argentina stood by Venezuela.

3. I think it's a bit far-fetched to say that Morales' support base is shaky. It's made up of indigenous people and socialists, to all of which he is the dream candidate. Morales' electoral victory is something that his whole base has been seeking for many years, and they are not suddenly going to change their mind. If anything, he's probably less radical than many people would wish

I woulld say the article is a lot of wishful thinking by opponent's of South America's lefrward shift. But the author's three main points, which I adressed above, are not at all solid fact.

Thor
01-21-2006, 10:35 PM
http://www.pcposnordic.com/upload/3579/Map%20Nordic.jpg

;)
From CIA World Fact Book

"Sweden has achieved an enviable standard of living under a mixed system of high-tech capitalism and extensive welfare benefits..."

uhramechi
01-21-2006, 11:49 PM
Bolivia does not depend solely on Brazil for investment. You can bet that Venezeula will invest like crazy, and China has already shown a keen interest in developing Bolivia's natural gas infrastructure. Moreover, Bolivia seems to have good relations with major European powers such as Spain and France, as seen by Morales' recent visits to those and other countries. In fact, if you check the Wikipedia page for Evo Morales, near the bottom you will see that both Brazil and the EU have made economic cooperation deals with Bolivia during Evo's trips abroad.

yeah Chavez will invest alot in Bolivia because he is spending not his money, he is spending the tax money of the venezuelan, and meanwhile the country is breaking in pieces ( more of 50 bridge a cross the country are destroys, more 100 roads are useless, the health services are in few words stopped)

China is easy to invest inbolivia, china dont have problem with invest in bolivia, if invest and armed the Sudan (remenber Darfur) or also invest and armed the regime of Mugabe.

france well that is right also will invest, like do in irak in the Saddam goverment.


Lula has no desire to "reign in" either Venezuela or Bolivia

well maybe dont reign in but just keeping them, specially Evo, that both stay the hand out the brazilian company the rest i think democracy and humans right dont care.(like any good imperialist will do it)


The US has made several attempts to isolate Venezuela and all have failed, specificallly because both Brazil and Argentina stood by Venezuela

well that is right, because chavez paying in few words the Argetinian debt (chavez give almost 1200 millions of dollar for bonus of the argentinian debt) with all that money how wouldnoot became anti imperialist, (or protect) his venezuelan uncle rich that pay everthing that argetinian goverment needs.

and lula will protect too because the trade business that lula and chavez made, really are no business trade, in few words chavez is bouying almost 80 millions of dollars in food (food than can be easily made herein venezuela ) for months in change of support against the imperialist amenace of the terrible american empire.


I think it's a bit far-fetched to say that Morales' support base is shaky. It's made up of indigenous people and socialists, to all of which he is the dream candidate. Morales' electoral victory is something that his whole base has been seeking for many years, and they are not suddenly going to change their mind. If anything, he's probably less radical than many people would wish

well in MAS is the main party, but evo morales, was supported by more 50 unions, several leftish and extreme lefitsh partys, cocaleros (coca groups), in that kind of supported and groups,can be very shaky if the fight power became more agressive.

and also chavez have his main party MVR, but also ins block are the PPT; Podemos, Tupamaros, CTN, and many terror comunist and paramilitary marxist groups in venezuela. chavez can controled because they now how to distribute the money of the taxpayer in the corruption between all those partys.


I woulld say the article is a lot of wishful thinking by opponent's of South America's lefrward shift. But the author's three main points, which I adressed above, are not at all solid fact

this is the article are very exact reflect of the bolivia and in general latinamerica situation.

budgie
01-22-2006, 05:27 AM
http://www.pcposnordic.com/upload/3579/Map%20Nordic.jpg

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And to a lesser extent, France, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Germany