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budanski
02-23-2004, 09:01 AM
Russia Faces EU Sanctions Over 'Bullying' In Eastern Europe
Telegraph.co.uk (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/23/wrus23.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/02/23/ixworld.html)

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 23/02/2004)

The European Union is to threaten trade sanctions against Moscow today in a showdown over Russian bullying tactics in Eastern Europe, violations of human rights, and misuse of the criminal justice system for political ends.

Gathering in Brussels to tackle the mounting dispute, EU foreign ministers are expected to call for punitive measures unless Moscow recognises its former Warsaw Pact satellites as full EU members when they join in May.

The draft text demands that Russia extend the same treatment to all of the EU's 25 states, "without pre-condition or distinction".

With only two months before the EU enlargement from the current 15 member states to 25, Russia insists on maintaining separate trade relationships with its former satellites, claiming it would suffer trade losses if it did not.

But EU officials say the real dispute is over attempts by President Vladimir Putin to retain a degree of political control in Eastern Europe.

Using the toughest language since the fall of communism, the draft text warns Mr Putin that any attempt to dictate settlements to other countries would have "a serious impact on relations."

EU diplomats said the message was intended to be a shock warning that Russia was playing a dangerous diplomatic game by confronting the EU on such a fundamental point of principle.

"We are not going to let them blackmail us. They're behaving extremely badly, so we're sending them a clear message that the EU will not be pushed around," said one official.

The text includes veiled warnings that the EU will block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming, human rights, and energy policy.

The warning follows a European Commission report criticising the Putin government for "selective application of the law" over the imprisonment of Russia's leading oil magnate. Citing a list of dubious practices, the report said Mr Putin's conduct "raises questions about Russia's commitment and ability to uphold core universal and European values".

Russia has dragged its feet over talks on the disputed border with Estonia and Latvia - soon to be the outer frontier of the EU itself - raising the risk of friction.

Latvia has accused Mr Putin of withholding oil supplies for its refinery on the Baltic coast as a means of forcing concessions.


The text includes veiled warnings that the EU will block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_2531767,00.html), human rights, and energy policy.
Who's bullying who here?... Warning to the Eurocrats: "Don't Poke the Bear"

Argyll
02-23-2004, 09:26 AM
Why not bud? ;)
It would be fun to see if the "Bear" had teeth and claws eh? ;)
In all seriousness,there are vast economical problems within the old Soviet Union,and perhaps this is not the way to go about this.One to keep an eye on in the future

Sounds a bit like the US/North Korea situation a little,when you say don't poke the bear?

I like "Let sleeping dogs lie " better

UkrainianAmerican
02-23-2004, 10:13 AM
Russia Faces EU Sanctions Over 'Bullying' In Eastern Europe
Telegraph.co.uk (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/02/23/wrus23.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/02/23/ixworld.html)

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 23/02/2004)

The European Union is to threaten trade sanctions against Moscow today in a showdown over Russian bullying tactics in Eastern Europe, violations of human rights, and misuse of the criminal justice system for political ends.

Gathering in Brussels to tackle the mounting dispute, EU foreign ministers are expected to call for punitive measures unless Moscow recognises its former Warsaw Pact satellites as full EU members when they join in May.

The draft text demands that Russia extend the same treatment to all of the EU's 25 states, "without pre-condition or distinction".

With only two months before the EU enlargement from the current 15 member states to 25, Russia insists on maintaining separate trade relationships with its former satellites, claiming it would suffer trade losses if it did not.

But EU officials say the real dispute is over attempts by President Vladimir Putin to retain a degree of political control in Eastern Europe.

Using the toughest language since the fall of communism, the draft text warns Mr Putin that any attempt to dictate settlements to other countries would have "a serious impact on relations."

EU diplomats said the message was intended to be a shock warning that Russia was playing a dangerous diplomatic game by confronting the EU on such a fundamental point of principle.

"We are not going to let them blackmail us. They're behaving extremely badly, so we're sending them a clear message that the EU will not be pushed around," said one official.

The text includes veiled warnings that the EU will block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming, human rights, and energy policy.

The warning follows a European Commission report criticising the Putin government for "selective application of the law" over the imprisonment of Russia's leading oil magnate. Citing a list of dubious practices, the report said Mr Putin's conduct "raises questions about Russia's commitment and ability to uphold core universal and European values".

Russia has dragged its feet over talks on the disputed border with Estonia and Latvia - soon to be the outer frontier of the EU itself - raising the risk of friction.

Latvia has accused Mr Putin of withholding oil supplies for its refinery on the Baltic coast as a means of forcing concessions.


The text includes veiled warnings that the EU will block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_2531767,00.html), human rights, and energy policy.
Who's bullying who here?... Warning to the Eurocrats: "Don't Poke the Bear"
rofl

Bend over, B*TCH!

Argyll
02-23-2004, 10:34 AM
rofl

wholagun
02-23-2004, 12:47 PM
EU is just looking out for thier own. Id be kinda made if EU said ok these countries don't need to have same low tarrifs as the rest. By speaking with once voice it helps new members feel welcome and creates pro EU feelings in the new members.

UkrainianAmerican
02-23-2004, 04:20 PM
EU is just looking out for thier own. Id be kinda made if EU said ok these countries don't need to have same low tarrifs as the rest. By speaking with once voice it helps new members feel welcome and creates pro EU feelings in the new members.
I agree, but the way they made it sound is as if the "bear" just invaded half of eastern europe, lol.

fdt
03-01-2004, 04:25 AM
EU is just looking out for thier own. Id be kinda made if EU said ok these countries don't need to have same low tarrifs as the rest. By speaking with once voice it helps new members feel welcome and creates pro EU feelings in the new members.
I agree, but the way they made it sound is as if the "bear" just invaded half of eastern europe, lol.Stupid me, I always thought that Eastern Europe is a bears lair... which he doesn't need to invade because it's his own... or I am mistaken thinking that the Europe's eastern boundary is Ural... :roll:

GazB
03-02-2004, 06:20 AM
Good point... every time I see Russia mentioned it is never mentioned as being part of Europe... there is Europe and there is Russia. European Russia it seems is not part of Europe.

Regarding arguements with Lithuania and big old Russia pushing little countries around... the real problem is that Lithuania plus many in the EU would like to see Russia give up the Kaliningrad enclave so it can join the EU too. But it is Russia that is the bad guy here... the big powerful one with teeth that steals land.

If Russia has negotiated agreements with some countries that are going to join the EU why shouldn't they expect those countries to stick by their agreements?
The Russians took on all the Agreements signed by the Soviet Union and has abided by them after changing into a federation.


block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming, human rights, and energy policy

Again Russia is the bad guy but the EU thinks it is OK to blackmail?

Sergei
03-02-2004, 07:37 AM
block Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organization if Russia continues to defy the it over the Kyoto protocol on global warming, human rights, and energy policy

Again Russia is the bad guy but the EU thinks it is OK to blackmail?

This just an empty talk from eurocrats, they can bark, but they won't bite.
BTW, Russia doesn't need WTO whatsoever, Russian products wouldn't be competitive anyways due to higher costs of production compared to the cheap crap from China or Malaysia.
I wonder, how they managed to push human rights into the agenda? Looks like it is a new euphemism by politicians, when they don't like the country, they start blaming them for human rights. It works good in any country.

WARPIG
03-02-2004, 07:50 AM
I think "Don't Poke the Bear" is good advice. Regardless of who you feel is in the wrong here... the EU is in no position to talk "tuff."

Vance
03-02-2004, 08:08 AM
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Tengu
03-02-2004, 08:13 AM
Regardless of who you feel is in the wrong here... the EU is in no position to talk "tuff."They question is; what is russia going to do about it??