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He219
02-23-2004, 06:18 PM
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 23: U.S. Marines land on an Airforce C-130 cargo plane February 23, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. 50 U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats. Rebels have threatened that they will attack the city. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 23: U.S. Marines take up security positions as others unload from an Airforce C-130 cargo plane upon their arrival February 23, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. 50 U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats. Rebels have threatened that they will attack the city. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 23: U.S. Marines fan out as others off load from an Airforce C-130 cargo plane February 23, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. 50 U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats. Rebels have threatened that they will attack the city. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 23: A U.S. Marine stands guard as others unload from an Airforce C-130 cargo plane upon their arrival February 23, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. 50 U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats. Rebels have threatened that they will attack the city. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

p-)
Aghrr

MolliG
02-23-2004, 06:21 PM
Damn, beat me to it! ;):P

MolliG
02-23-2004, 06:23 PM
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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39895000/jpg/_39895435_marinesgrab4.jpg

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/americas/02/23/haiti.revolt/vert.marine.sentry.ap.jpg



:)

USMarine3521
02-23-2004, 06:24 PM
Are those UD (MCSF) Marines??

He219
02-23-2004, 06:28 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040223/capt.xrm10202232322.haiti_uprising_xrm102.jpg

;)

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 06:36 PM
Great photos!

I love thier gear.........


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........marpat

;)

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 06:38 PM
Is thier only assignment to protect the embassy?

Not peacekeeping or anything?

He219
02-23-2004, 06:38 PM
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U.S. Marines arrive at Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Haiti Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines arrived in Haiti to protect the U.S. Embassy and its staff, while government loyalists set flaming barricades to block the road from rebels threatening to move on Port-au-Prince. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

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US. Marines arrive at Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Haiti Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines were flown in to to protect the American Embassy and diplomats as rebels threatened to attack the city soon.(AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

Nice ones, MolliG!
p-)

Salty Dog
02-23-2004, 06:42 PM
get some! :P

scm77
02-23-2004, 06:46 PM
Is thier only assignment to protect the embassy?

Not peacekeeping or anything?

As of now they are only there to protect the US embassy. On the news tonight they said that washington has "no enthusiasm" to send a larger force.

He219
02-23-2004, 07:26 PM
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: This 60-centimeter resolution satellite image made 12 February 2004 and released 23 February 2004 by DigitalGlobe shows the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince. Haiti neared collapse 23 February 2004 as a deadline loomed for political foes of President Jean Bertrand Aristide to accept an internationally backed power-sharing deal and as rebels holding the country's second city vowed to march on the capital. Violence raged throughout the country, including overnight attacks on police stations on the outskirts of Port-au-Prince. AFP PHOTO/DIGITALGLOBE (Photo credit should read -/AFP/***** Images)

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A US Marine guards a tranport military plane arriving at the Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats as rebels threatened to attack the city soon. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

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PORT AU PRINCE, HAITI: US marines arrive 23 February 2004 in Port-au-Prince to help reinforce security at the United States embassy in the Haitian capital. The 50 marines were flown from Norfolk Naval Base in the southern US state of Virginia to Port-au-Prince at the request of the US ambassador to Haiti, James Foley. AFP PHOTO/JAIME RAZURI (Photo credit should read JAIME RAZURI/AFP/***** Images)

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US. Marines load their gear after arriving at the Toussaint Louverture International Airport in Port-au-Prince, Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats as rebels threatened to attack the city soon. (AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Two of the 50 US marines who arrived in Port-Au-Prince to protect the US embassy ride the back of a truck carrying some of their supplies as they make their way past a market in downtown Port-Au-Prince 23 February 2004. A US aircraft carrying marines to help reinforce security at the United States embassy touched down in Port-au-Prince at 15:20 pm (2020 GMT) Monday, 23 February 2004. The marines were flown from Norfolk Naval Base in the southern US state of Virginia to Port-au-Prince at the request of the US ambassador to Haiti, James Foley. AFP PHOTO/Roberto SCHMIDT (Photo credit should read ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP/***** Images)

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US. Marines enter the U.S. Embassy in Port-au-Prince, Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines streamed into the capital Monday to protect the U.S. Embassy and its staff, while government loyalists set flaming barricades to block the road from rebels threatening to move on Port-au-Prince. (AP Photo/Pablo Aneli)

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A U.S. security agent stands guard outside the U.S. embassy during the arrival of marines in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, February 23, 2004. Rebels set their sights on the rest of Haiti on Monday after swooping in to take the country's second-largest city in an escalation of a bloody rebellion against President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, prompting the United States to send in Marines to protect its embassy. *******/Daniel Aguilar

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A Haitian watches US. Marines arriving at the American Embassy in Port-au-Prince, Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Fifty U.S. Marines were flown in to protect the American Embassy and diplomats as rebels threatened to attack the city soon. (AP Photo/Pablo Aneli)

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Parzival
02-23-2004, 07:39 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 07:44 PM
Marines are in charge of the protection of U.S. Embassies, there the only one you'll ever see in embassies for the most part.
Also, the Marines are America's primary rapid deployment force.

This isn't nessecarily a incredbly high profile operation, SF would be over doing it.

Guttorm
02-23-2004, 07:45 PM
[quote="He219"]
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=547732

The black guy, is it just me or is he carrying two rifles?

steel bonnet
02-23-2004, 07:48 PM
Well l`m a BRIT & would like to think it`s fairly obvious,though no doubt l`ll be corrected if wrong...lol :D

I believe it`s Traditional to have the Marines be Protectors & the First Line of Defence of US Soil overseas (like American Embassy`s).

After all there the one`s who provide the Dress Blues Guards at them,so makes sense they`ll be the Combat Arm if it`s needed.

The likes of the Rangers & SPGs,well they can go off & take the fight to them,whilst the Marines make sure ALL US personnel get out safely.


Great photos too by the way :D Hope your USMC don`t suffer no **** from these clowns :D

Ja
Steel Bonnet

Hman123
02-23-2004, 07:50 PM
Are these guys FAST?

He219
02-23-2004, 07:55 PM
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A US security agent chases away a journalist outside the U.S. embassy during the arrival of marines in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, February 23, 2004. Rebels set their sights on the rest of Haiti on Monday after swooping in to take the country's second-largest city in an escalation of a bloody rebellion against President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, prompting the United States to send in trooops to protect its embassy. *******/Daniel Aguilar

:lol:

elguapo
02-23-2004, 07:56 PM
[quote=He219]
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=547732

The black guy, is it just me or is he carrying two rifles?

hummm looks like German cammo :| ???

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 07:57 PM
I doubt it,

There more for anti-terrorism, arnt they?

afterall they are the Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team, so i wouldn't think so.

But then again I might be wrong

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
02-23-2004, 07:59 PM
Question about these marines gear. How come there vests are tan? Isnt this kinda ironic? Most of the forces in Iraq wear 3 colors BDU and woodland vest ect ect. But these guys are wearing MARPAT and using Tan colored vests.

Would there be a reason behind this? If anyone could shed some light on it it would be appreciatted.

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 08:00 PM
[quote=He219]
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=547732

The black guy, is it just me or is he carrying two rifles?

hummm looks like German cammo :| ???

The camo is called MARPAT (Marine Pattern), or just digital camo.

It works VERY well.



http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/302_uniform/bdu_02/marpat_02.jpg

http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/302_uniform/bdu_02/marpat_desert_02.jpg

ChuckThunder
02-23-2004, 08:05 PM
Question about these marines gear. How come there vests are tan? Isnt this kinda ironic? Most of the forces in Iraq wear 3 colors BDU and woodland vest ect ect. But these guys are wearing MARPAT and using Tan colored vests.

Would there be a reason behind this? If anyone could shed some light on it it would be appreciatted.

No real reason. You get what you get... don't like it, write up a chit.

He219
02-23-2004, 08:10 PM
hummm looks like German cammo :| ???

One more time!
;)

http://www.henrikc.dk/camouflage/usa_marpat_pattern.gif
MARPAT (Marine Pattern)

http://www.henrikc.dk/camouflage/canada_cadpat_pattern.gif
CADPAT (Canadian Pattern)
Both come in Arid colors ....

http://www.henrikc.dk/camouflage/germany_summerjacket_pattern.gif
Flecktarn (including Wuesten and Tropen)

And it's orign (http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/bluzy_maskujace_wh_lw.htm) ...

Salty Dog
02-23-2004, 08:11 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team?

yes, why don't they send in better soldiers like Rangers or SF team?

:roll: :cantbeli:

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 08:14 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team?

yes, why don't they send in better soldiers like Rangers or SF team?

:roll: :cantbeli:


That question has all ready been answered :roll:

;)

Edit: after reading your post again I'm starting to thing you were implying something........... perhaps something about the "better soldiers" part...

AOCBravo2004
02-23-2004, 08:14 PM
They are Marines from one of the USMC's FAST Companies. One of the primary missions of FAST is to augment the security already provided by the Embassies MSG's. For those that do not know MSG stands for Marine Security Guards. FAST is very good at what they do. Also someone commented why not use Rangers or SF "cuz they are better", go read about the missions those units conduct and read about the types of missions FAST Co. performs. Educate self then open mouth ;).

At first I hated the Diggies, but they have grown on me.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
02-23-2004, 08:17 PM
Question about these marines gear. How come there vests are tan? Isnt this kinda ironic? Most of the forces in Iraq wear 3 colors BDU and woodland vest ect ect. But these guys are wearing MARPAT and using Tan colored vests.

Would there be a reason behind this? If anyone could shed some light on it it would be appreciatted.

No real reason. You get what you get... don't like it, write up a chit.

Thanks for the answer, I figured maybe different units have the ability to get different gear. Guess not, thanks woot

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 08:17 PM
What marine units are SOC (Special Operations Capable)?

Ratamacue
02-23-2004, 08:20 PM
Question about these marines gear. How come there vests are tan? Isnt this kinda ironic? Most of the forces in Iraq wear 3 colors BDU and woodland vest ect ect. But these guys are wearing MARPAT and using Tan colored vests.

Would there be a reason behind this? If anyone could shed some light on it it would be appreciatted.

The vests aren't tan, they're "Coyote Brown." Coyote brown is the most important brown color in the MARPAT pattern because it tends to adapt to ambient light, and as such is suitable for just about any terrain, hence why they use CB vests rather than OD ones: it can be used effectively for any environment you go into.

elguapo
02-23-2004, 08:22 PM
hummm looks like German cammo :| ???

One more time!
;)
MARPAT (Marine Pattern)

CADPAT (Canadian Pattern)
Both come in Arid colors ....
Flecktarn (including Wuesten and Tropen)

And it's orign (http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/bluzy_maskujace_wh_lw.htm) ...

Yet another. Does that mean woodlland is history? ;)

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 08:25 PM
No not yet, at least not for the entire U.S. military, the army doesn't plan to change thier camo until the integration of the landwarrior system.

elguapo
02-23-2004, 08:37 PM
cool I think woodland is the best patern around, aestheticaly...

Salty Dog
02-23-2004, 08:46 PM
i was being sarcastic about the better soldiers comment, because he said they were "better", when in reality, they all have different jobs, and you cannot generalize like that. we already had massive flame wars on who was better, army or marines blah blah blah a couple of months ago, i just couldn't beleive that person said that.

ibstolidude
02-23-2004, 09:00 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?
This is part of what these Marines are well trained for & known for doing it well...

Perhaps a marine in the board can answer your specfics.

AVZ
02-23-2004, 09:21 PM
go read about the missions those units conduct and read about the types of missions FAST Co. performs. Educate self then open mouth .




I love this statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Nothing more to say!!!!!!

Have a goood one.

USMarine3521
02-23-2004, 09:24 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?"We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?"
- US Army Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., USA, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the assault on Grenada, 1983 :D

hood
02-23-2004, 09:34 PM
I got a new album going under contemporary photos for this.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Uprising_in_Haiti_2004

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 09:37 PM
I got a new album going under contemporary photos for this.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Uprising_in_Haiti_2004

Yay! Thanks hood!

Salty Dog
02-23-2004, 09:40 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/rebels_against_president_aristide/aac.jpg

"gimme some crack mother f***er!"

hood
02-23-2004, 09:45 PM
Unlike the Ivory Coast, most of these people are so poor that they can't afford the guns to mount a proper rebellion. There were lots of pictures of these guys with rocks, and a bunch with fishing spear guns.

TriggerPuller
02-23-2004, 10:03 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?Where do you get this "better" idea from. Learn about the different mission profiles of said units before you open your suck again with such an asinine comment!

TP

Salty Dog
02-23-2004, 10:07 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?Where do you get this "better" idea from. Learn about the different mission profiles of said units before you open your suck again with such an asinine comment!

TP

i was trying to get to that without spewing out **** that i don't know about.

He219
02-23-2004, 10:10 PM
hehe ....

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FuturePara
02-23-2004, 10:16 PM
I second that question on the vests. Those aint the coyote brown interceptors....they're the three-color coffee stain.

Ratamacue
02-23-2004, 10:17 PM
I second that question on the vests. Those aint the coyote brown interceptors....they're the three-color coffee stain.

You're right now that I look at them closer. I honestly don't know why they're 3-color vests...trying to be unique I guess? ;)

TP, you have any idea?

Uncle Sam
02-23-2004, 10:19 PM
I've went to Haiti the last time...That place stinks !

He219
02-23-2004, 10:20 PM
Look, these guys have been equipped to go into Iraq, Afghanistan or the Horn if necessary.

Remember the Liberia Operation. Check out the Gallery.

FAST, Recon and the SEAL's all had some mis-matching kit. The guns were either painted 'arid', perhaps the boots, or the vests - who cares? Certainly not those foolish enough to shoot at them .....

They have to be prepared to respond anywhere at a moments notice - regardless of the circumstance or kit.

;)

Dominique
02-23-2004, 10:26 PM
FAST (the Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team) Companies are deployable platoons of Marines that are assigned to the Marine Security Force Battalion (MSFB).

The MSFB (along with its two FAST companies), the Marine Security Guard (MSG) Battatlion (whos job is to guard US Embassies), an Anti-Terrorism Battalion (ATBN), and the Chemical and Biological Incidnet Response Force (CBIRF) are all part of the 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade (Anti-Terrorism).

One of it's prmary jobs is to respond to crisis situations overseas (such as providing additonal security at US embassies).

It's the USMC's job to protect US embassies, and consulates. That's the reason they were sent it. FAST has deployed several times to reinforce the US embassy in Haiti. For a year or so after Restore Democracy they were rotating platoons from Norfolk to protect Navy Sea Bees, guard Haitian refugees at GITMO, and secure the embassy.

I think some of you are confusing Anti-Terrorism with Counter Terrorism. It's two different things. Anti-terroism is measures to prevent terroism (improved security, harding your defenses, etc.). Counter-terroism is more along the lines of dirrect action (raids, capturing wanted terrorist, etc.).

02-23-2004, 10:32 PM
good pictures, thanks for the post

MVSpartan117
02-23-2004, 10:36 PM
thanks Dominique
:)

AOCBravo2004
02-23-2004, 10:44 PM
Thank you Dominique, I was just too lazy to type all of that earlier :D

George

TriggerPuller
02-23-2004, 10:45 PM
FAST

F= Fake

A= Ass

S= SEAL

T= Team

TP

02-23-2004, 11:20 PM
FAST

F= Fake

A= Ass

S= SEAL

T= Team

TP

don't start that **** again, Force Recon VS SEALs or FAST, or whatever!.... the bottom line is that they are all professionals.

Dominique
02-23-2004, 11:39 PM
FAST

F= Fake

A= Ass

S= SEAL

T= Team

TP

I know where TP is coming from with this. I know several former FAST Marines, and while most of them are good guys I used to work with one that truely beleived his **** didn't stink.

If you beleived everything he said, you would think he (along with every other FAST Marine) was Rambo, John Wayne, and Chuck Norris all rolled into one. He really embarassed us at a room clearing course we attended (when I was in FAST we did it like this, etc.).

Luckily, we also had two other former FAST guys on our team, who were slighty more level headed (and displayed the professionalism they learned in Corps) during the training.

James
02-24-2004, 12:10 AM
I second that question on the vests. Those aint the coyote brown interceptors....they're the three-color coffee stain.

You're right now that I look at them closer. I honestly don't know why they're 3-color vests...trying to be unique I guess? ;)

TP, you have any idea?

You get what you get. These guys might have been preparing to go to, or just come home from somewhere sandy (hmmm...).

angry cow
02-24-2004, 04:23 AM
There isn't exactly a set uniform for either the rebels or the government supporters. When people start shooting at each other we want them to know not to f*ck with our guys. As I'm sure you've all noticed, the MARPAT, desert vest combo is VERY distinctive. Makes it easier for ourt guys to tell whose who, since they likes the woodland camo down there in haiti. p-)

webfoots
02-24-2004, 04:42 AM
As I'm sure you've all noticed, the MARPAT, desert vest combo is VERY distinctive. Makes it easier for ourt guys to tell whose who, since they likes the woodland camo down there in haiti.

Isn't that kinda counter-productive to the whole point of camouflage??? :roll:


:lol:

Parzival
02-24-2004, 06:47 AM
Oh, sorry guys!
I thought the Rangers were better then the Marines. I Might have seen to much BHD-movies..Very well.

Vance
02-24-2004, 07:55 AM
Oh, sorry guys!
I thought the Rangers were better then the Marines. I Might have seen to much BHD-movies..Very well.
Oh God. Each team is better at the other in specfic tasks - comparing them on a general scale is wrong.

Cpl Stumps
02-24-2004, 12:09 PM
Had a buddy I served in the Corps with who was MSG. During his time MSG carried .357 revolvers, and the load out for the Embassy which was mandated by the State Dept was shotguns and Mini-14s. I noticed that the "Security Guy" had an M-4 of sorts. Anybody know if the State Dept has changed which type of weapons the Embassy is allowed to have.

hood
02-24-2004, 12:13 PM
I added 2 more to the security section btw.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aai.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aaj.jpg

BlackRain
02-24-2004, 01:00 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?

The first questions an American president asks in a crisis is?

Where are our carriers and where are our Marines?

Marines have training in urban combat and do not take **** from anyone.

Vacon do a little reading about Somalia to answer your question.

fokket
02-24-2004, 02:15 PM
I would love to see Vacon's ass saying that **** in right in front of FAST folks

TriggerPuller
02-24-2004, 02:32 PM
FAST

F= Fake

A= Ass

S= SEAL

T= Team

TP

don't start that **** again, Force Recon VS SEALs or FAST, or whatever!.... the bottom line is that they are all professionals. Ill start whatever **** I feel like Ahole!!!! Everyone wants to make FAST a HSLD unit or SOF unit of which they are not.The key word is Security. They are young and motivated and should get the job done without too many problems. No comparison to FR or SEALs.

TP

Dmitri
02-24-2004, 02:33 PM
Why are they send the Marines, WHy not better soldiers like Rangers or SF team? The Marines got new unifroms right?


The first questions an American president asks in a crisis is?

Where are our carriers and where are our Marines?

Marines have training in urban combat and do not take **** from anyone.

Vacon do a little reading about Somalia to answer your question
I think both of you guys are pretty stupid to say the least, you complement each other... At least try to act like you are older than 10 y.o.

Parzival
02-24-2004, 04:44 PM
Oh, sorry guys!
I thought the Rangers were better then the Marines. I Might have seen to much BHD-movies..Very well.
Oh God. Each team is better at the other in specfic tasks - comparing them on a general scale is wrong.
Yea, absolutly! But when the do hostages or something like commando asasult they use the Delta or Rangers. That was exactly what i thought, but I was wrong.

MolliG
02-24-2004, 04:51 PM
Yea, absolutly! But when the do hostages or something like commando asasult they use the Delta or Rangers. That was exactly what i thought, but I was wrong.

From what I've read around here, it's whoever is closest and most able to do the job, who gets it.

Ratamacue
02-24-2004, 05:59 PM
For much of the part, yes MolliG. But it's a hard fact that the Marines are the ones who deal with American Embassies.

Dmitri
02-24-2004, 06:07 PM
For much of the part, yes MolliG. But it's a hard fact that the Marines are the ones who deal with American Embassies.For most part - yes, but not always. SF is known to have helped them before

BlackRain
02-24-2004, 07:57 PM
Foreign Service Act of 1946
Sec. 562. The Secretary of the Navy authorized at request of Secretary of State, to assign enlisted men of the Navy and Marine Corps to serve as custodians under supervision of the principal officer at an embassy, legation or consulate.

Evacuation of Saigon: Apr 1975 865 Marines, 70 helos.

Lebanon: Aug-Sep 1982 80 Marines

Philippines: Dec 1989 Aircraft from Clarke and 100 Marines to US Embassy in Manila

Liberia-Operation Sharp Edge: Jun 1990 4 ships & 2,000 Marines assist in evacuation.

Operation Eastern Exit: Somalia Jan 1991 2 Marine Amphibious Ready Groups






History of USMC Embassy operations: http://www.msg-history.com/index.html

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Now STFU.

James
02-24-2004, 08:01 PM
For much of the part, yes MolliG. But it's a hard fact that the Marines are the ones who deal with American Embassies.For most part - yes, but not always. SF is known to have helped them before

Liberia 1994, U.S. Army units from Italy secured the embassy, as the local MEU9SOC) was occupied elsewhere.

Embassy security is a traditional duty of the USMC. USMC FAST has, as one of its missions, the job of augmenting security at U.S. Embassies when necessary.

From USMC.mil:


Marine Corps Security Force Battalion headquartered in Norfolk, Virginia provides armed, anti-terrorism and physical security trained personnel to high value naval installations or units. The battalion maintains a worldwide presence at 14 different locations from Keflavik, Iceland to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Bahrain in the Arabian Gulf. The Marines protect key naval assets to include strategic weapons, command and control facilities and naval support activities. In addition to its fixed installations, Marine Corps Security Force Battalion maintains two Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team (FAST) companies for deployments as directed by the Chief of Naval Operations. The Marines of Marine Corps Security Force Battalion may also perform other functions as directed by the Commandant of the Marine Corps.

Marine Security Guards provide security services to selected Department of State Foreign Service posts to prevent the compromise of classified material and equipment and to provide protection for U.S citizens and government property.



Hope this helps.

Dmitri
02-24-2004, 08:20 PM
Well, one SF soldier told me how they had to go and "save the Marines' butts" (direct quote) when **** hit the fan somewhere, but that was during a formal meeting so he didn't give many details, he just mentioned that when they do it no one ever hears about it (and I guess they are not supposed to). From what I understood it was not that long ago, and it wasn't in Africa

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Now STFU.Son, I didn't challenge the Foreign Serivece Act, so STFUB

BlackRain
02-24-2004, 08:21 PM
On April 9 1995, President Bill Clinton ordered U.S. military forces to evacuate American citizens and certain third-country nationals who had taken refuge in the U.S. Embassy compound in Liberia. U.S. security assessment and enhancement teams deployed to Monrovia the same day to reinforce and protect the embassy and its personnel

Dubbed Operation Assured Response, the deployment and evacuation involved Army elements including approximately 140 soldiers from the U.S. European Command's Special Operations Command and forces from the Southern European Task Force and U.S. Army, Europe. Air Force, Navy and Marine units, plus British aircraft and personnel, also provided support.

Troops reinforced the Marine guard at the embassy and secured a central evacuee assembly collection point from which the evacuees were moved to landing areas where Navy helicopters waited to carry them to neighboring Sierra Leone.

Ratamacue
02-24-2004, 08:36 PM
Thanks for the corrections.

TriggerPuller
02-24-2004, 09:53 PM
For much of the part, yes MolliG. But it's a hard fact that the Marines are the ones who deal with American Embassies.For most part - yes, but not always. SF is known to have helped them before

Liberia 1994, U.S. Army units from Italy secured the embassy, as the local MEU9SOC) was occupied elsewhere.



But there was a Navy SEAL assessement team(led by CPO P.Ellis) that landed after the former FR Marine(COL ret) shot dead 2 Liberian police officers in front of the Embassy. iam also very proud to say that that Marine Col is a very good friend and is basically my surrogate father. He is still running the security for DOD down there.

TP

James
02-24-2004, 11:31 PM
I couldn't remember many details. Was this when the SEALS went searching in town for U.S. Citizens?

Please advise.

Salty Dog
02-24-2004, 11:45 PM
Well, one SF soldier told me how they had to go and "save the Marines' butts" (direct quote) when **** hit the fan somewhere, but that was during a formal meeting so he didn't give many details, he just mentioned that when they do it no one ever hears about it (and I guess they are not supposed to). From what I understood it was not that long ago, and it wasn't in Africa

You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Now STFU.Son, I didn't challenge the Foreign Serivece Act, so STFUB

i believe it, i believe that it happens all the time, but gosh darnit, you know, we never hear about it. :roll:

TriggerPuller
02-25-2004, 09:03 PM
[quote="Dmitri"]Well, one SF soldier told me how they had to go and "save the Marines' butts" (direct quote) when **** hit the fan somewhere, but that was during a formal meeting so he didn't give many details, he just mentioned that when they do it no one ever hears about it (and I guess they are not supposed to). From what I understood it was not that long ago, and it wasn't in Africa


BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could say the same thing about some units also but "professionals" dont do this and especially not outside their own!

TP

ChuckThunder
02-25-2004, 10:30 PM
I couldn't remember many details. Was this when the SEALS went searching in town for U.S. Citizens?

Please advise.

There were dependents of the embassy personnel in the city. The SEALs went to get them via convoy, made contact, ect. Got the job done.

alphabet
02-25-2004, 10:39 PM
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Dmitri
02-25-2004, 10:48 PM
Well I'm sorry TP, but I did hear it from a tabbed recruiter. I don't know why would you call me a liar, I would never even take my time to try to come up with anything like that.

Vintendo
02-25-2004, 10:53 PM
http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3007613.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=1AFADD5E5EEBA5C25C7ACF2C2962BF9D

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: This 60-centimeter resolution satellite image made 12 February 2004 and released 23 February 2004 by DigitalGlobe shows the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince. Haiti neared collapse 23 February 2004 as a deadline loomed for political foes of President Jean Bertrand Aristide to accept an internationally backed power-sharing deal and as rebels holding the country's second city vowed to march on the capital. Violence raged throughout the country, including overnight attacks on police stations on the outskirts of Port-au-Prince. AFP PHOTO/DIGITALGLOBE (Photo credit should read -/AFP/***** Images)

Haiti might be a poor country, but they sure build their roads straight!

venture160
02-26-2004, 12:54 AM
some new close protection pics:
[/quote]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040225/capt.xrm10202251754.haiti_uprising_xrm102.jpg
A US Marine escorting an unidentified OAS officer, runs toward his car outside the organization's building in Petion Ville just outside of Port-au-Prince, Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)

hood
02-26-2004, 01:31 AM
It would seem that there won't only be US Marines in Haiti. :)

venture160
02-26-2004, 01:43 AM
some more

http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-604537.jpg?size=67&uid=%7Bd893a7e8-09bc-4fca-83fa-4abbc6bbdc5c%7D

http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-604533.jpg?size=67&uid=%7B2535425b-9d17-4827-adf9-9ec0febe857b%7D

http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-604532.jpg?size=67&uid=%7Be39ae057-028a-45fe-885c-e000ff50d43a%7D

TALOS
02-26-2004, 02:04 AM
Ok, I dont remember all the facts but didnt a marine unit have to come to the rescue of the SEALs during the Grenada invasion. It was when they were at the Governor's Mansion.
This isnt a dis, all the members of the US armed forces should be available to assist the other units all the time in my opinion. No shame in that.

James
02-26-2004, 03:29 AM
It would seem that there won't only be US Marines in Haiti. :)

They are wearing khaki pants, black skivvie shirts, and they are carrying M-4s with all the bells and whistles. I am positive that they are ST6DeltaNinjas.

Any thoughts?















rofl

striker
02-26-2004, 07:22 AM
They seem to be DS. Prolly the RSO staff already at post. Khaki and skivvies became more ore less the standard uniform for the DS lately.
Look in the gallery
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Close_Protection_forces_Haiti
The suit on the first pic doing detail for the Assistant Secretary of State is the same dude that's chasing the reporters. Seems they like a comfy dress when they break out the heavy gear.
Besides, what need for any high speed super secret whatever unit would there be in Haiti?
brgds
striker

hood
02-26-2004, 07:52 AM
Actually what I meant was that there'll probably be more joining them soon, not that they're ninjas.. which they just happen to be anyway. :)

Erik_MAA
02-26-2004, 10:04 AM
n/m

zenmaster
02-26-2004, 12:14 PM
Is the only reason most hobbyists think rangers/delta/ etc. are "better" than everybody else because the Marines and SEALS don't have a cool movie showing how badass they are? Remember than cash flow is directly attributable to how "good" a unit is and the army generally gets way more cash than other services.

TALOS
02-26-2004, 12:34 PM
Is the only reason most hobbyists think rangers/delta/ etc. are "better" than everybody else because the Marines and SEALS don't have a cool movie showing how badass they are? Remember than cash flow is directly attributable to how "good" a unit is and the army generally gets way more cash than other services.
Its all about what they do, I personally feel the marines kick azz but thats just a biase on my part. They have been involved in every conflict since the inception of the United States (as a matter a fact, they were formed in 1775 so that makes them older then the United States)
They get all the handme downs (traditionally) and yet they are the face of america on foreign shores. Give them the credit they are due. For their purpose, They ARE the best.

TriggerPuller
02-26-2004, 12:46 PM
Is the only reason most hobbyists think rangers/delta/ etc. are "better" than everybody else because the Marines and SEALS don't have a cool movie showing how badass they are? Remember than cash flow is directly attributable to how "good" a unit is and the army generally gets way more cash than other services.
Its all about what they do, I personally feel the marines kick azz but thats just a biase on my part. They have been involved in every conflict since the inception of the United States (as a matter a fact, they were formed in 1775 so that makes them older then the United States)
They get all the handme downs (traditionally) and yet they are the face of america on foreign shores. Give them the credit they are due. For their purpose, They ARE the best.Not a bad post.Thanks. We were formed on Nov 10 1775 at Tun Tavern Pennsylvania.

TP

Dmitri
02-26-2004, 03:05 PM
Well, here is my personal opinion, and I don't mean to start any wars here. Rangers go through an amazingly rigorous training, they are "elite". Besides basic and AIT, they have to make it through RIP and then Ranger school. The official attrition in Ranger school alone is averagely 50%, and that's not just for some privates, the numbers are the same from E-1 through E-7 and O-1 and O-2. Add on top of that airborne and for most of them also other schools. Also add all the rigors of just being at the Bat. If you don't call that "elite" and super-duper or whatever, you are just blind. That's just comment on saying that Rangers are popular because of the Black Hawk Down or whatever. I don't have problem with Marines, or them guarding US soil on foreign land, God help them. But keep it real... And I haven't seen too many American war movies, but so far majority of them were about Marines, except for some recent ones.

He219
02-26-2004, 03:52 PM
Rebel Fighters Converge on Haiti Capital (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=589&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20040226/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/haiti_uprising)

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016605.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEF0EB2A00F57CFC48A3897B0CF27A22A3

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016606.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEF0EB2A00F57CFC48FF7CD49C79A844B5

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 26: A U.S. diplomatic security agent escorts United Nations nonessential staff and their families along with others February 26, 2004 at the international airport in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. As rebels continue to threaten to attack the capital city to oust President Jean-Bertrand Aristide people are leaving because of the danger. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016744.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE90E34376B1512FD3B0C4E2C49605D445

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016887.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE321727AC5EB5F5F334C89CB0769255B9

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016885.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE321727AC5EB5F5F36B885823A4CFE21E

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016884.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE321727AC5EB5F5F35B245CE6055C8F8B

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 26: A young man watches a guard from the United States State Department as a convoy carrying non-essential United Nations and foreign embassy personnel prepares to be evacuated from the UN headquarters February 26, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The convoy was escorted to the airport in Port-au-Prince by the guards. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016749.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE90E34376B1512FD3E0571C5AE3291A70

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016740.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE90E34376B1512FD3EF6ED49339EFF98B

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 26: A guard from the United States State Department stands watch as a convoy carrying non-essential United Nations and foreign embassy personnel prepares to be evacuated from the UN headquarters February 26, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The convoy was escorted to the airport in Port-au-Prince by the guards. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016919.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE1076985EE8AE9912B5BBE5E240E9D78D

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016916.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE1076985EE8AE9912F4DD8D53123F15E6

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 26: American guards from the U.S. State Department stand watch as a convoy carrying non-essential United Nations and foreign embassy personnel prepares to be evacuated from the UN headquarters February 26, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The convoy was escorted to the airport in Port-au-Prince by the guards. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3016607.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEF0EB2A00F57CFC481476C697F253731D

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - FEBRUARY 26: A women carries her child as United Nations nonessential staff and their families along with others prepare to leave February 26, 2004 at the international airport in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. As rebels continue to threaten to attack the capital city to oust President Jean-Bertrand Aristide people are leaving because of the danger. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040226/i/r2032101561.jpg

U.S. Embassy special security agents stand guard and make way for people being evacuated from Haiti at the international airport in Port-Au-Prince, Haiti, February 26, 2004. The U.S. agents escorted a convoy of U.N. nonessential staff and their families and other foreigners to their flights out of the country. *******/Daniel Aguilar

venture160
02-26-2004, 08:46 PM
so what do you think, these guys are prob ex special forces, force recon, airborne or something that went into the dss?

bobdakilla
02-26-2004, 10:18 PM
Marines are the best plain and simple ...................... bitchs

He219
02-26-2004, 10:26 PM
so what do you think, these guys are prob ex special forces, force recon, airborne or something that went into the dss?
They certainly are equipped as such, M4/PEQ-2A and all the other kit we see.

My guess is that they are recruited from various service branches and trained for these types of diplomatic missions. I'm sure they gain exposure worldwide and I would be surprised if we haven't seen some of them on tours in Afghanistan or Iraq already.

Just my .02
;)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040226/i/r4179828704.jpg

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3016571.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=13AB8ECE774FD78DBB766A73A36725AF

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Two members of a special US security force for the US embassy in Haiti stop traffic in a street of Port-Au-Prince as they make space for buses carrying United Nations members and families of other International organizations on their way to the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 26 February 2004. Dozens of non essential personnel were evacuated by a special United Nations flight from Haiti into the Dominican Republic. AFP PHOTO/Roberto SCHMIDT (Photo credit should read ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP/***** Images)

striker
02-27-2004, 04:02 AM
Talked to a DSTC Instructor last year. He said that since the hiring rush after 9/11, you can always pick out the former SEALs in the gym, they are in a very different shape compared to their usual applicants.

cut
02-29-2004, 12:51 PM
found a pic of the last time the US was in haiti

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39901000/jpg/_39901339_usatairportap300.jpg

hood
02-29-2004, 01:02 PM
I added a bunch more to the album...

These 2 are security forces at the French Embassy.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aat.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aau.jpg

These are US:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aax.jpg

And I'm not sure what these are.. getting off a military transport, but look like the security guys.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aba.jpg

cut
02-29-2004, 01:09 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aat.jpg

wow delta! and another in the car! cool! where do you think they hide the weapons?

Vance
02-29-2004, 02:17 PM
The cross is a 9mm pistol ;)

Danj
02-29-2004, 02:24 PM
Just a thought as to IDing these guys...
Check out ***** Images for more pics of these guys getting of the AF C 130, some of them have beards, not exactly clean cut DSS guys, what do you wanna bet these guys are fresh from deployments in Afganistan and Iraq. Maybe army SF or something else.

Salty Dog
02-29-2004, 02:26 PM
i bet they are not.

Nizark
02-29-2004, 02:56 PM
http://delivery.*****images.com/comp/3007795.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE22AA62D470E566B2E810B282E270B951

Translation of pic: What the Fock are you looking at?!

Pégase
02-29-2004, 04:13 PM
I added a bunch more to the album...

These 2 are security forces at the French Embassy.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aat.jpg



there was a video about it :
http://www.france2.fr/contents/Video/0004B0A4.ram


they are from EPIGN

He219
02-29-2004, 11:58 PM
Thanks, Pégase! They have a broad selection of weaponry. I saw FAMAS G-2, G36C and Sig 550 w/ Grenade Launcher + Eotech ...


Some freshies:

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027275.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFF30B5BF9E7AD8689

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027258.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFEDB7249BC3A0772F

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: A US marine takes up a position at the tarmac of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027352.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF9EDDE8152E528AE7

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027358.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF346B60288568145B

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: US marines walk inside the concourse of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027355.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFB48502DC2F6B6977

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: US marines inspect the inside the concourse of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027221.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF823F635C5251490B

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: A US marine steps through the luggage belt at the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US Marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: US marines line up in the tarmac of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US Marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)


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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: A Canadian JTF-2 soldier rides a small vehicle before US marines on the tarmac of the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 29 February 2004. US marines landed in Haiti late 29 February 2004 as a vanguard of an international security force following the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)


From Yesterday:

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Unidentified members of US armed forces leave the back of a US Air Force transport plane upon their arrival at the International Airport in Port-Au-Prince 28 February 2004. Beleaguered Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide insisted he won't step down, and appealed for calm after his supporters engaged in a day of looting and deadly violence in Port-au-Prince that continued into the night. AFP PHOTO/Roberto SCHMIDT (Photo credit should read ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP/***** Images)

[AFSOC]
03-01-2004, 12:14 AM
[quote=He219]
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=547732

The black guy, is it just me or is he carrying two rifles?

hummm looks like German cammo :| ???

Ok first of yall yES he is carrying two rifles...second of all MARPAT doesnt look like anything like the German camo. Are you stupid?

MARPAT looks like MARPAT, and CADPAT IS CADPAT. MARPAT AND CADPAT are the two that look similar everyone else is there ownnn.

USMarine3521
03-01-2004, 12:15 AM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027221.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF823F635C5251490B

sweet! cadpat and marpat in one picture :D

Yard Ape
03-01-2004, 12:17 AM
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sweet! cadpat and marpat in one picture :DThe Canadian looks out of place with no helmet, flack vest, or weapon.

EvanL
03-01-2004, 12:18 AM
The ones coming out of the plane look to be JTF2. Look at the weapons. And some of the guys resemble those in the pics labelled as JTF2.

ibstolidude
03-01-2004, 12:20 AM
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3027275.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EFF30B5BF9E7AD8689
Am I the only one wondering where the drum or asslt pack is?
Yes yes it can use a mag, but it works like **** and limits rounds.

[AFSOC]
03-01-2004, 12:21 AM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aat.jpg

wow delta! and another in the car! cool! where do you think they hide the weapons?

Ok those are french soldiers dumby....notice the FAMAS??

ibstolidude
03-01-2004, 12:35 AM
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http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/close_protection_forces_haiti/aat.jpg

wow delta! and another in the car! cool! where do you think they hide the weapons?

Ok those are french soldiers dumby....notice the FAMAS??
ah dumby (?), I think he was jokingly speaking about the nuns.

venture160
03-01-2004, 12:36 AM
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HMMM who are these guys? maybe devgru going in to help the haitian leader leave the country?? or special forces going in to help take control of local police stations...... some of these guys look familiar as well, fromt the afghanistan albums

Yard Ape
03-01-2004, 12:39 AM
The ones coming out of the plane look to be JTF2. Look at the weapons. And some of the guys resemble those in the pics labelled as JTF2.Except they are getting off a US plane and Canada has sent its own aircraft.

EvanL
03-01-2004, 12:47 AM
The ones coming out of the plane look to be JTF2. Look at the weapons. And some of the guys resemble those in the pics labelled as JTF2.Except they are getting off a US plane and Canada has sent its own aircraft.Well it is at the same airport. Maybe some of them arent getting off but are just there for security and to brief the new gfuys.

USMarine3521
03-01-2004, 12:54 AM
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HMMM who are these guys? maybe devgru going in to help the haitian leader leave the country?? or special forces going in to help take control of local police stations...... some of these guys look familiar as well, fromt the afghanistan albums

haha its deuterium!!!! the guy on the left kinda looks like him :D who knows

mustamato
03-01-2004, 09:21 AM
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0403/01/NYHETER-01s06-skott3-90_368.jpg
From swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, that interviewed a couple of
militiamen in Haiti that guarded a Texaco-fuelstation. Who is this man?
Mercenary? Look at his weapon. Hm, american? He called himself "Dimitri".

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0403/01/haiti368.jpg
They saw a couple of men in a pickup that they shouted were looters, and
they probably were as well...

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0403/01/NYHETER-01s06-skott2-41_368.jpg
...but the man killed was probably just a innocent man,
at the wrong place at the wrong time.

venture160
03-01-2004, 09:41 AM
could, prob got hired by whoever owns the gas stations to protect them from being looted.... although if i were them ild leave pretty soon now that the marines are coming ;)

SOG
03-01-2004, 10:52 AM
Is the only reason most hobbyists think rangers/delta/ etc. are "better" than everybody else because the Marines and SEALS don't have a cool movie showing how badass they are?

uh, excuse me, navy seals with charlie sheen ring a bell? hello!? have you not seen my shrine!? :bash: god, god, are you there god? rofl

He219
03-01-2004, 01:14 PM
Some freshies:

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 1: U.S. Marines hold a machine gun position along the runway as a French military transport plane lands behind them at the International Airport March 1, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Several hundred U.S. Marines and French troops arrived in Haiti to restore order as former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide took refuge in the Central African Republic. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 1: United States Marines stand guard at the airport March 1, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Marines are part of an international peace keeping force that arrived in Haiti when former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide fled the country. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 1: United States Marines stand guard at the Presidential Palace March 1, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Marines are part of an international peace keeping force that arrived in Haiti when President Jean-Bertrand Aristide fled the country. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 1: U.S. Marines take a position on the steps of the presidential palace March 1, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Several hundred U.S. Marines and French troops arrived in Haiti to restore order as former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide took refuge in the Central African Republic. (Photo by Joe Raedle/***** Images)

GrimmyRX
03-01-2004, 01:56 PM
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sweet! cadpat and marpat in one picture :DThe Canadian looks out of place with no helmet, flack vest, or weapon.

Lol, what does he care? There are both Marines and JTF-2 outside.

Plus, if you look carefully, he's got a handgun on his leg.

He219
03-01-2004, 03:27 PM
more:

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 1: US Marines take up their defensive position at the International Airport March 1, 2004 as a French military transport plane lands at behind them in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Two US Marines (R) walk past newly arrived French army troops (L) at the International airport in Port-Au-Prince 01 March 2004. The arrival of a multi-national force is expected to be completed in the next few days as the International community makes an effort to restore stability to the region. AFP PHOTO/ Roberto SCHMIDT (Photo credit should read ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Two US Marines patrol the front lawn of the Haitian presidential palace in Port-Au-Prince 01 March 2004. The US Marines arrived in Haiti late 29 February 2004 in an effort to help stabiliza the country after Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide fled the country. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

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PORT AU PRINCE, HAITI: A convoy of rebels move before the presidential palace followed by thousannds of Haitians 01 March 2004 in Port-au-Prince. Thousands welcomed Haitian rebels who made a triumphant entry into the capital as US Marines and French troops started a peacekeeping mission to restore order after the departure of President Jean Bertrand Aristide. AFP PHOTOS/YURI CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

HooyahCQB
03-01-2004, 03:28 PM
Ok, I dont remember all the facts but didnt a marine unit have to come to the rescue of the SEALs during the Grenada invasion. It was when they were at the Governor's Mansion.
This isnt a dis, all the members of the US armed forces should be available to assist the other units all the time in my opinion. No shame in that.

Rescue? No my dear friend. Part of their mission was to relieve the SEAL Team there. They were a little late but it was a war zone and the Marines were also rescuing the medical students. The SEALs were low on ammunition by then and had to call in an AC-130 Gunship to lay it down on the compound. One of the snipers was credited with somewhere around 19 kills.


You're avatar is also of a SEAL, I believe.

He219
03-02-2004, 07:39 PM
some freshies:

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI - MARCH 2: US Marines patrol the airport with a Light Armored Vehicle March 2, 2004 in Port-au-Prince, Haiti. The Marines, Air Force as well as French and Canadian troops are now on the ground in Haiti. (Photo by Scott Olson/***** Images)

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PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI: Members of US diplomatic security team and a US Marine (L) guard the gate of Haitian Prime Minister Yvon Neptune's office in Port-Au-Prince 02 March 2004. Haitian rebels loyal to leader Guy Philippe said they would detain Neptune, a close ally of exiled president Jean Bertrand Aristide, to be tried for unspecified crimes. AFP PHOTO/Yuri CORTEZ (Photo credit should read YURI CORTEZ/AFP/***** Images)

[AFSOC]
03-03-2004, 01:45 AM
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He's like Bubba....

"Tuck in that lip soldier!"

Great movie.....too bad Bubba died :(