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PureMassacre
02-23-2004, 06:41 PM
Hi,

Could some one please post the standard structure of a platoon, ie. what weapons the soldiers are given and what squad they are placed into. Also the structure of a standard squad would be helpful.

If someone has the structure of platoons + squads for the 101st, that would be even better.

Note: This is current squad/platoon structure.

Thanks

Ian H
02-23-2004, 09:21 PM
It doesn't really belong here, for which I apologise, but would anyone mind posting the similar British Army/ RM structure, as I've heard conflicting reports of strength, equipment etc.

Thanks in advance

MSG Dman
02-23-2004, 10:54 PM
US Army Light Infantry Squad:

9 Men Total

Squad Leader - M4 Rifle
A-Team Leader - M4 Rifle
Grenadier - M4 w/M203
Automatic Rifleman - M249 SAW
Rifleman - M4 Rifle
B-Team Leader - M4 Rifle
Grenadier - M4 w/M203
Automatic Rifleman - M249 SAW
Rifleman - M4 Rifle

For a platoon, there are 3 of the squads above. Add 2 M240B Machine gun teams, a Platoon Leader, Platoon Sergeant and an RTO - 34 total men

James
02-24-2004, 12:17 AM
USMC Rifle Squad (c. 1997)

13 Men total
Squad Leader - M16

3 Fire teams, each with:
Team leader - M16
Grenadier - M16/M203
Automatic Rifleman - M249
Asst. AR - M16

USMC Rifle Platoon -
3 Squads +
Platoon Leader
Platoon Sergeant
Radio Operator
Corpsman

43 pairs of boots on the ground.

In the USMC, a Rifle company has 3 rifle platoons, a weapons platoon, and a HQ element. Our MMGs (M60/M240), mortars, and assault guys were in the weapons platoon.

crazyman
02-24-2004, 12:19 AM
since you asked about AASLT, take the light infantry as above, and add a wpn squad leader, and a pair of anti-armor teams, total 39 soldiers.

Dave the Dawg
02-24-2004, 07:12 PM
Regarding a US Army light infantry platoon, note that besides the 34 men MSG Dman identifies, a platoon will also typically have attachments. These may include 1-2 antiarmor teams (another 2-4 men), a medic and an artillery forward observer (FO).

For the UK: http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0029.html

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/army58.gif
Notes:
(1) In Mechanised and Light Battalions a fourth 'Manoeuvre Support Section' with two GPMGs in the light role, is carried in the existing platoon transport. Sustained Fire Tripod equipment for the Man Sp Sect GPMGs are carries by the CQMS. The 51mm Mortar men from platoon HQ are grouped with this fourth section, which is commanded by a Corporal but controlled by the platoon HQ .

(2) The whole platoon with the exception of the LSW (Light Support Weapon) gunners are armed with IW - SA80 (Individual Weapon).

(3) The APC could be either Warrior or Saxon and possibly AFV 432.

(4) Platoons in Armoured or Mechanised Infantry Battalions are armed with the LAW 80 for anti-tank operations. The LAW 80 is issued to other types of infantry battalion when a tank threat exists.

(5) All riflemen in the platoon carry a rifle grenade sight, which can be attached to the SA80. In combat each SA80 user is also issued with two 'Bullet Catcher' rifle grenades. This grenade is simply pushed onto the end of the barrel and an ordinary 5.56mm round fired into it. The grenade absorbs the bullet without damage and is projected towards the target up to 150m away.

Also, from the Devons and Dorsets website: "A rifle Platoon consists of 4 sections. Three are made up of riflemen armed with the SA80 assault rifle, Light Support Weapon (LSW), anti tank rockets, grenades and other specialist equipment. The fourth section is called the manoeuvre support section and consists of 2 medium machine guns called the "General Purpose Machine Gun" or GPMG for short. This weapon has a range of around 1100 metres and provides a huge weight of fire for the rifle sections."

Haiw
02-24-2004, 09:49 PM
Isn't the UK platoon layout gonna change with the (possible, not sure if it's gonna happen or not) introduction of the Minimi & underbarrel grenade launchers?

oldsoak
02-25-2004, 10:33 AM
I think the idea is to replace one SA80 in each fire team with a Minimi and give the Section I/C and 2I/C uglies ( UGLs ). The LSW's will be used as a marksmans weapon. Tell you what - ask Royal, Sabre or Mark Tigger - they have much better info than I on this.

Ian H
02-25-2004, 12:03 PM
Thanks for that.

One more :roll: : Is the crew for the Warrior/Saxon taken from the infantry section carried (ie. losing 3/2 dismounts), or are they from a seperate unit?

If I remember right, somewhere on the MoD website it says that each four man fire-team will have one each of Minimi, UGL, L86A2 and L85A2, and presumably a couple of LAW80 as well. I also read somewhere that the UGL would replace the platoon/troop level 51mm mortar, but this maybe wrong.

PureMassacre
02-25-2004, 12:53 PM
Thanks, what would a medical squad consist of?

German_American
02-25-2004, 02:53 PM
Anyone have any ideas of what a platoon would look like around 2008 or 2010.

marktigger
02-26-2004, 05:38 PM
as far as I'm briefed the section for the UK is as above

As I'm not infantry i'm not the authority on how a dismounted warrior section works. The theory was 1 of the turret crew dismounted but the practice is they work with 7. In some cases Bn's are so short they in peacetime have no one in the back.

wiggle
02-26-2004, 10:05 PM
US Army Military Police Squad

Sqd Leader M4 w/M203 *Shotgun Could be given to any member of squad
Team Ldr M4 w/M203
Driver M249
Gunner M4 with mounted .50 or Mk-19 or both with Eagle Mount

3 Teams to a Squad / 3 Squads

LT has his own team PSG with whoever
M9 Berettas for all

Spearin
02-28-2004, 09:57 PM
Thanks Dave for that chart of the British Sections, I was looking for just that!

crazyman
02-29-2004, 10:05 PM
ok since it's been mentioned..whats a "UGL"? i could guess, but i'd rather just get a proper answer

Haiw
02-29-2004, 10:20 PM
UGL = Underbarrel Grenade Launcher... like the M203 and AG36 (or HK69 or whatever it's called)

Ian H
03-01-2004, 06:24 AM
It is the AG36, but mounted on an L85A2, voila:

http://www.gun-world.net/Britain/sa80/ag36.jpg



Sorry for the size, thought it was smaller

crazyman
03-01-2004, 07:48 AM
ohhhh, thank you kindly.

Schwabo Elite
03-01-2004, 12:06 PM
Gun looks nice, bulpup though... :|

Is it for right handers only?? cannot see on this pic.

SE

scm77
03-01-2004, 03:49 PM
Anybody know the Canadian section numbers/weapons? :D

Spearin
03-01-2004, 04:42 PM
Anybody know the Canadian section numbers/weapons? :D

4 Fire teams of two in an 8 soldier section:

A1: Section Commander
A2: Rifleman (Radio Op)
B1: Section LMG (C9)
B2: Rifleman
C1: Rifleman
C2: Rifleman
D1: Section LMG (C9)
D2: Section 2ic (Second in Command)

Generally, everyone is issued C7A1 (besides the C9 Gunners) and two M203s per section. Not sure about the Reg Force choice/issue (?) of C8s to Infantry or any other things that they do; I'm just a Reservist :)

Charlie Fireteam is the 'Assault' team during Section Attacks.

That's basically it, maybe someone else has corrections/additions.

Guttorm
03-02-2004, 06:45 AM
Gun looks nice, bulpup though... :|

Is it for right handers only?? cannot see on this pic.

SE

Well, I know the A1 or what ever was righthanded only, due to the bolt that comes flying back after every shot fired, would break your jaw if you held it links style.

Not sure if it still is after the reasent modifications.

Ian H
03-02-2004, 01:16 PM
It still is.