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EvanL
02-23-2004, 10:45 PM
PM's national security adviser tells of warnings about civil airliners


CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA - Canada has received warnings about terror threats to airliners, a senior security official told a Senate committee today.
Robert Wright, national security adviser to Prime Minister Paul Martin, told the national security and defence committee that there have been specific warnings about civil airliners.

He would not give any details.

He said the threats have been dealt with by police, but he urged the senators to approve new legislation which would give police advance information about passengers on both domestic flights and flights to destinations other than the United States.

Information on passengers flying to the U.S. is already provided to American authorities.

Senator Colin Kenny, the committee chairman, favours tighter security measures.

"We're aware of threats that have taken place," he said. ``There were some flights that were diverted in the last 60 days. This is obviously an ongoing concern for Canadians that we have to deal with."

Several transatlantic flights by British Airways, Air France and Continental Airlines have been cancelled in recent months by American security worries.

In October, an El Al flight to Toronto was twice diverted because of an unspecified threat. The plane landed first in Montreal, then in Hamilton, before continuing on to its final destination in Los Angeles.

"We've had tragedy strike too often to take chances," Kenny said.

He said he wants to see double cockpit doors on all flights into Canada and searches of all flight line workers.

"We think that the RCMP should be in charge of airport security."

He also said airport security personnel who search passengers should come under Anne McLellan's public security portfolio, rather than the Transport Department.

wholagun
02-23-2004, 11:05 PM
Crap, Canada's great univeral friendly immigration system is being used against us by terrorists. If we get attacked people in this country will get a wake up call, once the CN tower comes down like the Twin Towers maybe then people will take things more seriously. Its good to be universally friendly but at what cost? Canadians belive in the we are such nice people no one wants to hurt us BS that they are really starting to believe it, they must understand that terrorsts don't give a flying fvck and will attack any western target any chance they get.

memphiz
02-23-2004, 11:12 PM
Crap, Canada's great univeral friendly immigration system is being used against us by terrorists. If we get attacked people in this country will get a wake up call, once the CN tower comes down like the Twin Towers maybe then people will take things more seriously. Its good to be universally friendly but at what cost? Canadians belive in the we are such nice people no one wants to hurt us BS that they are really starting to believe it, they must understand that terrorsts don't give a flying fvck and will attack any western target any chance they get.
hopefully nothing happens

EvanL
02-23-2004, 11:15 PM
Crap, Canada's great univeral friendly immigration system is being used against us by terrorists. If we get attacked people in this country will get a wake up call, once the CN tower comes down like the Twin Towers maybe then people will take things more seriously. Its good to be universally friendly but at what cost? Canadians belive in the we are such nice people no one wants to hurt us BS that they are really starting to believe it, they must understand that terrorsts don't give a flying fvck and will attack any western target any chance they get.
DOnt ever ****ing say something like that man!
Sure it will take an attack to get most canadians views to change, but dont ****ing wish that sort of stuff. if you had any first hand experience with 9/11 you would feel pissed off as well.

cut
02-23-2004, 11:29 PM
why would they attack the CN tower, it has no symbolism. I think it mostly likely that they'd try getting the planes into the US.

Skaman
02-23-2004, 11:30 PM
This would not be the first time acts of terrorism existed in Canada.

Anyone recall the Air India bombing?

Its not that this new 'sexy' word 'terrorism' is anything new. 911 has made terrorism into some sort of pop culture topic. Terrorism has always existed, now we are more cognizant of it as North Americans as our neighbor to the south was attacked by Al-Qaeda or Saudi Arabian 'allies' if you will. Let’s not run around panicking, this is not anything new. Terrorism exists, and we will deal with it as we see fit. Marching into some Arabic state to appease the bloodthirsty people won’t solve anything, and definitely won’t serve as a 'wake up call’. Many nations have their terrorist issues, and we will deal with ours as necessary.

EvanL
02-23-2004, 11:37 PM
This would not be the first time acts of terrorism existed in Canada.

Anyone recall the Air India bombing?

Its not that this new 'sexy' word 'terrorism' is anything new. 911 has made terrorism into some sort of pop culture topic. Terrorism has always existed, now we are more cognizant of it as North Americans as our neighbor to the south was attacked by Al-Qaeda or Saudi Arabian 'allies' if you will. Let’s not run around panicking, this is not anything new. Terrorism exists, and we will deal with it as we see fit. Marching into some Arabic state to appease the bloodthirsty people won’t solve anything, and definitely won’t serve as a 'wake up call’. Many nations have their terrorist issues, and we will deal with ours as necessary.Afghanistan was necessary because it harboured terrorists and terrorists training camps under the wing of the Extremist taliban (towely-ban) government. Iraq was not part of the war on terror. As much as the Bush admin. says it is. Its not. hussein was a leader of a country. an evil leader. But not a terrorist in the same sense. He terrorized his people and the countries in his (hood), but Iraq was not terrorist related.

Skaman
02-23-2004, 11:47 PM
This would not be the first time acts of terrorism existed in Canada.

Anyone recall the Air India bombing?

Its not that this new 'sexy' word 'terrorism' is anything new. 911 has made terrorism into some sort of pop culture topic. Terrorism has always existed, now we are more cognizant of it as North Americans as our neighbor to the south was attacked by Al-Qaeda or Saudi Arabian 'allies' if you will. Let’s not run around panicking, this is not anything new. Terrorism exists, and we will deal with it as we see fit. Marching into some Arabic state to appease the bloodthirsty people won’t solve anything, and definitely won’t serve as a 'wake up call’. Many nations have their terrorist issues, and we will deal with ours as necessary.Afghanistan was necessary because it harboured terrorists and terrorists training camps under the wing of the Extremist taliban (towely-ban) government. Iraq was not part of the war on terror. As much as the Bush admin. says it is. Its not. hussein was a leader of a country. an evil leader. But not a terrorist in the same sense. He terrorized his people and the countries in his (hood), but Iraq was not terrorist related.


I dont disagree with that.

EvanL
02-23-2004, 11:51 PM
he still needed to be taken out.
But not on the basis of non-existent WMD.

Skaman
02-23-2004, 11:53 PM
he still needed to be taken out.
But not on the basis of non-existent WMD.


Saddam was a threat to his people. Nonetheless, liberating his people would solve nothing, and respectively, there are far more needy nations than Iraq. Hmm, say Uganda?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9306

EvanL
02-23-2004, 11:56 PM
he still needed to be taken out.
But not on the basis of non-existent WMD.


Saddam was a threat to his people. Nonetheless, liberating his people would solve nothing, and respectively, there are far more needy nations than Iraq. Hmm, say Uganda?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9306
NK? I.R. IRAN?

SFontaine
02-24-2004, 12:44 AM
Saddam was a threat to only his own people? I don't get that. He wanted to see the US hurt, he tried to hurt the US in the past.. What's saying he wouldn't try again?

I bet if the US went into Afghanistan on September 1st 2001 to stop Bin Laden or the Taliban people like Douchey here would be whining about American war mongering and how "An old man in a cave can't really do anything to the US!"

EvanL
02-24-2004, 12:47 AM
Saddam was a threat to only his own people? I don't get that. He wanted to see the US hurt, he tried to hurt the US in the past.. What's saying he wouldn't try again?

I bet if the US went into Afghanistan on September 1st 2001 to stop Bin Laden or the Taliban people like Douchey here would be whining about American war mongering and how "An old man in a cave can't really do anything to the US!"
Of course he wanted to hurt the U.S. So do like 100 other countries in the world. He couldnt though. He didnt have the capabillity. Thats why im arguing that Bush's WMD claim was bull****. I wasnt against the war, just against bushes reason for the war.

Skaman
02-24-2004, 12:48 AM
Saddam was a threat to only his own people? I don't get that. He wanted to see the US hurt, he tried to hurt the US in the past.. What's saying he wouldn't try again?

I bet if the US went into Afghanistan on September 1st 2001 to stop Bin Laden or the Taliban people like Douchey here would be whining about American war mongering and how "An old man in a cave can't really do anything to the US!"


If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.

EvanL
02-24-2004, 12:52 AM
Saddam was a threat to only his own people? I don't get that. He wanted to see the US hurt, he tried to hurt the US in the past.. What's saying he wouldn't try again?

I bet if the US went into Afghanistan on September 1st 2001 to stop Bin Laden or the Taliban people like Douchey here would be whining about American war mongering and how "An old man in a cave can't really do anything to the US!"


If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.
We have had proof bin laden was capable of inflicting mass casualties since the embassy bombings in 1998. We had enough proof.

Skaman
02-24-2004, 12:54 AM
Saddam was a threat to only his own people? I don't get that. He wanted to see the US hurt, he tried to hurt the US in the past.. What's saying he wouldn't try again?

I bet if the US went into Afghanistan on September 1st 2001 to stop Bin Laden or the Taliban people like Douchey here would be whining about American war mongering and how "An old man in a cave can't really do anything to the US!"


If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.
We have had proof bin laden was capable of inflicting mass casualties since the embassy bombings in 1998. We had enough proof.

True, the CIA knew of the impeding terrorist attacks, but did nothing; I am simply saying hard proof is needed to sanction any conflict against any country.

wholagun
02-24-2004, 01:27 AM
Crap, Canada's great univeral friendly immigration system is being used against us by terrorists. If we get attacked people in this country will get a wake up call, once the CN tower comes down like the Twin Towers maybe then people will take things more seriously. Its good to be universally friendly but at what cost? Canadians belive in the we are such nice people no one wants to hurt us BS that they are really starting to believe it, they must understand that terrorsts don't give a flying fvck and will attack any western target any chance they get.
DOnt ever f*** say something like that man!
Sure it will take an attack to get most canadians views to change, but dont f*** wish that sort of stuff. if you had any first hand experience with 9/11 you would feel pissed off as well.

no im not wishing it, i was just aluding to the fact that IF the CN tower WERE to come down the people would wake up. Same thing happened in the US no one thought they were a target of terrorism until the towers came down.

Seiyuuki
02-24-2004, 02:22 AM
This would not be the first time acts of terrorism existed in Canada.

Anyone recall the Air India bombing?

Its not that this new 'sexy' word 'terrorism' is anything new. 911 has made terrorism into some sort of pop culture topic. Terrorism has always existed, now we are more cognizant of it as North Americans as our neighbor to the south was attacked by Al-Qaeda or Saudi Arabian 'allies' if you will. Let’s not run around panicking, this is not anything new. Terrorism exists, and we will deal with it as we see fit. Marching into some Arabic state to appease the bloodthirsty people won’t solve anything, and definitely won’t serve as a 'wake up call’. Many nations have their terrorist issues, and we will deal with ours as necessary.





This would not be the first time acts of terrorism existed in Canada.

Anyone recall the Air India bombing?

Its not that this new 'sexy' word 'terrorism' is anything new. 911 has made terrorism into some sort of pop culture topic. Terrorism has always existed, now we are more cognizant of it as North Americans as our neighbor to the south was attacked by Al-Qaeda or Saudi Arabian 'allies' if you will. Let’s not run around panicking, this is not anything new. Terrorism exists, and we will deal with it as we see fit. Marching into some Arabic state to appease the bloodthirsty people won’t solve anything, and definitely won’t serve as a 'wake up call’. Many nations have their terrorist issues, and we will deal with ours as necessary.Afghanistan was necessary because it harboured terrorists and terrorists training camps under the wing of the Extremist taliban (towely-ban) government. Iraq was not part of the war on terror. As much as the Bush admin. says it is. Its not. hussein was a leader of a country. an evil leader. But not a terrorist in the same sense. He terrorized his people and the countries in his (hood), but Iraq was not terrorist related.


I dont disagree with that.

As long as it is convenient for your political ideology.

Seiyuuki
02-24-2004, 02:24 AM
If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.

Yes, appearing on tape taking for credit for the whole thing...and the man is still innoncent until proven guilty.

Skaman
02-24-2004, 08:49 AM
If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.

Yes, appearing on tape taking for credit for the whole thing...and the man is still innoncent until proven guilty.

read ALL the posts beforehand.

SFontaine
02-24-2004, 01:17 PM
So Saddams attempt on the life of Bush Sr wasn't proof enough that he wanted to hurt the US?
It's beruecratic liberals like you that tie the Armies hands behind their backs and such when they need to act.

EvanL
02-24-2004, 01:23 PM
So Saddams attempt on the life of Bush Sr wasn't proof enough that he wanted to hurt the US?
It's beruecratic liberals like you that tie the Armies hands behind their backs and such when they need to act.
He never said that Saddam wanted to hurt the U.S.
Like i said, so do many otehr countries around the world.

usa320
02-24-2004, 03:38 PM
**** boatlods or truckloads, there are PLANELOADS of evidence to convict bin laden. There was enough proof to indict him in 1996...

There is also sufficient proof to show that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the USA, with, or without Weapons of Mass Destruction.

He had the people, the methods, the means...

EvanL
02-24-2004, 04:16 PM
f*** boatlods or truckloads, there are PLANELOADS of evidence to convict bin laden. There was enough proof to indict him in 1996...

There is also sufficient proof to show that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the USA, with, or without Weapons of Mass Destruction.

He had the people, the methods, the means...
So does NK, they have even more. Iran.

Seiyuuki
02-24-2004, 06:53 PM
If I had PROOF Osama was capable of such terrorist feats I would not hesitate to overthrow his terror network.

Yes, appearing on tape taking for credit for the whole thing...and the man is still innoncent until proven guilty.

read ALL the posts beforehand.

UNDERSTAND the post beforehand.