I question for a british RMC

[andreen]

Is there a Reconnaissance Force in 40, 42 ,45 Commando
or is it one for the hole 3 Commando Brigade?
How meny are they?
wath is there tasks?

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/gallery/image.php3?id=895

The I only info I got from the Royal Marines’ 3 Commando Brigade website was aboute this unit:

"Brigade Patrol Troop:
Consists of four six-man teams. They work ahead of the main force in a reconnaissance role, collecting information on the enemy and reporting back directly to the Brigade HQ. They are often deployed in advance of the main amphibious landings."

sorry for the bad grama

[Royal]

Why do foreigners insist on calling us RMC's?

We are Royal Marines. RMs. We just happen to be commandos. End of rant.

40, 42 and 45 all have Recce Troops. 3 Commando Brigade has the Brigade Patrol Troop and a selection of other assets that are added to BPT as and when required to form the Brigade Recce Force (BRF).

[rjbhutton]

or Royal Marine Corps (a la USMC)?? either way... wrong!
Would the SBS be considered a RM (deep/beach) reconnaissance asset?

[Royal]

or Royal Marine Corps (a la USMC)?? either way... wrong!
Would the SBS be considered a RM (deep/beach) reconnaissance asset?

No. The SBS are not part of the Royal Marines. Neither are they solely a reconaissance asset deep or otherwise. The high water mark distinction went decades ago - look at Afghanistan or for that matter the Iraq or the Balkans.

[RGRBOX]

Doesn't the Cadre from the RM Mountain school ??? sorry for f-ing up the title. Preform this mission for the Bde???

[Royal]

Doesn't the Cadre from the RM Mountain school ??? sorry for f-ing up the title. Preform this mission for the Bde???

M&AW Cadre has long since gone :( although NCOs in BPT are still required to be ML2s, there are plenty of MLs elsewhere. That said it's a small tight group that can be gathered up pretty easily if needed.

[andreen]

Why do foreigners insist on calling us RMC's?

We are Royal Marines. RMs. We just happen to be commandos. End of rant.

40, 42 and 45 all have Recce Troops. 3 Commando Brigade has the Brigade Patrol Troop and a selection of other assets that are added to BPT as and when required to form the Brigade Recce Force (BRF).


Ok on the RMs.

Are they a unit like the pathfiners in 16th Air Assault Brigade?

[Fudge]

wath is there tasks?

Is there a Reconnaissance Force in 40, 42 ,45 Commando

;)

Cheers
Fudge

[RGRBOX]

M&AW Cadre has long since gone :( although NCOs in BPT are still required to be ML2s, there are plenty of MLs elsewhere. That said it's a small tight group that can be gathered up pretty easily if needed.

Thanks Royal... I thought I remember reading about this a while back...

OK. Your a Marine Commando... I read the book "Unscathed" by Maj. Phil Ashby... I really injoyed his talk about some of the schools he attended. Moslty about the Mountain Leader Course he went on... ahve you done this course, and is it the tuffest course in the Commandos, or yet in the Britsih Army? I ask because in his book, it's the first I ever heard of it...

[SamHamam]

NCOs in BPT are still required to be ML2s,

I'm a bit out of touch these days, but where does the RL SQ fit in nowdays?

[Royal]

I'm a bit out of touch these days, but where does the RL SQ fit in nowdays?

They won't thank me for saying this, but it's basically an ML 'lite', with alot less emphasis on mountain/arctic skills.

[SamHamam]

They won't thank me for saying this, but it's basically an ML 'lite', with alot less emphasis on mountain/arctic skills.

Sorry question wasn't clear (can't disagree with your summary of the SQ) but can't RLs take up NCO billets in BPT these days? I saw an article in G&L a few months ago which I thought indicated that they could now - the context was around refresher/standardisation training for RLs, I must have thrown out the copy as I cant find it now.

[Royal]

Sorry I wasn't clear either ;) Senior NCO's in BPT must be ML2, full corporals are expected to attempt the course (and a failure doesn't look good ;)).

[RGRBOX]

Royal, could you clarify BPT... I understand ML, Mouintain Leader..

[Royal]

Brigade Patrol Troop. A brigade recce asset based on the old M&AW Cadre, but with a permenant role, rather than a wartime only one. The aspiration is for all members to be ML, but in practice many junoir ranks are RLs - a waterered down, recce orientated rather than teaching/leading orientated qualification. Forms part of the Brigade Recce Force - an ad hoc grouping of ISTAR assets formed and grouped as operationaly required.

[RGRBOX]

Thanks for the info... much appreciated..

[SamHamam]

Sorry I wasn't clear either ;) Senior NCO's in BPT must be ML2, full corporals are expected to attempt the course (and a failure doesn't look good ;)).

havala puno

[Royal]

havala puno

It's 'hvala puna' - nema na cemu ;)

[Canman]

Hey royal i know its abit off topic but im going to CTC for my PRMC in a couple of weeks is the selection criteria realy strict by that i mean if i say if i ran 30 second over for the 3 mile run would i be able to redeem myself if i realy dug deep for another one of the fitness tests. Also ive been given a time table for a 10 week period after completing the PRMC to fill before i start the 32 week commando coarse is that gap between PRMC and the commando coarse exactly 10 weeks or could it be less.

[Royal]

Selection criteria is strict.

If you are going to be a couple of seconds over on a 3 miler you shouldn't even be going - let alone half a minute.

You need to dig out blind for all the tests.

The gap from PRMC to start is usually longer than 10 weeks, but I don't know the hard and fast answer to that one.

Caveat - it's an awful long time since I did PRC (as it was then). Things have changed, but attitudes by and large havn't.

If you've got 2 weeks, you've got time to loose a good 30 seconds - it's hot at the moment keep your runs to early morning or late evening.

[OldRecon]

No. The SBS are not part of the Royal Marines. Neither are they solely a reconaissance asset deep or otherwise. The high water mark distinction went decades ago - look at Afghanistan or for that matter the Iraq or the Balkans.

Have the administrative responsibility for SBS been taken over by the army and SBS thus turned into an Army unit then, or do you mean in a more limited sense that SBS is not part of the 3rd Commando brigade?

[Royal]

Have the administrative responsibility for SBS been taken over by the army and SBS thus turned into an Army unit then, or do you mean in a more limited sense that SBS is not part of the 3rd Commando brigade?

The SBS comes under the Directorate of Special Forces, administered via the Royal Navy chain of command and is not part of 3 Commando Brigade.

[Psycomore]

Royal can i ask what commando unit you were in? & wether you served in Iraq? sorry if its a wrong question to ask im just curious as i have an uncle in law in 42 Commando at the moment

[DeltaWhisky58]

Royal can i ask what commando unit you were in? & wether you served in Iraq? sorry if its a wrong question to ask im just curious as i have an uncle in law in 42 Commando at the moment

Now that's a new one on me - Uncle-in-law!

[Psycomore]

lol well thats what i think it is any way, my uncles wife's (my auntie) brother

[Royal]

Royal can i ask what commando unit you were in? & wether you served in Iraq? sorry if its a wrong question to ask im just curious as i have an uncle in law in 42 Commando at the moment

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