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Brzeczyszczykiewicz
01-29-2006, 04:03 AM
I know that this thread is quite OT, but in my opinion it shouldn't be posted among all the sh*t in the OT section...
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Hopes of finding any more survivors are fading after a building collapsed in southern Poland, killing at least 60 people, rescuers said. Some 500 people were in the trade hall in Katowice for a pigeon exhibition when the roof caved in - possibly under the weight of snow - on Saturday.
Among the dead and some 140 injured were Poles, Belgians and Germans.
President Lech Kaczynski has announced a day of mourning for what he called a "catastrophe" unprecedented in Poland.
Rescue official Leszek Suski told a news conference: "With such a low temperature the chances of finding someone alive are slim but we still have hope."

'Panic and chaos'
A central section of the roof collapsed at 1730 local time (1630GMT). A second collapse happened more than an hour later, during rescue operations.
Hundreds of rescuers with sniffer dogs worked through the night as temperatures dropped to minus 15C.
Rescuers have been blowing warm air into the wreckage to increase the chances of survival for those still inside.
Police said people had been telephoning from inside on mobile phones, reporting dead bodies near them.
But no-one had been found alive since 2100 GMT Saturday.
Officials confirmed that at least one child was among the dead.
"The dogs have located 13 places where there are bodies but it is impossible to determine how many people will be found there," local fire brigade official Kazimierz Krzowski.

Survivor's story
One of the survivors described the scenes of panic and chaos immediately after the roof collapsed.

"We heard something snap like a match breaking and people started to panic right away, realising what was happening," the unnamed survivor told private television TVN24.
"I started to run and something fell on me, others trampled over me and I was able to crawl out on hands and knees," the survivor added.
Many people, some clutching head wounds, milled around ambulances.
Some of the victims were in serious or critical condition, officials said.

New building
The cause of the disaster is not yet certain.
Jacob Parade, a journalist with TVN24 in Poland, told the BBC the collapse was a surprise as the hall - built in the late 1990s - was so new.
The fire brigade and police said the weight of snow on the roof were responsible.
But the building's manager told Polish TV that snow had been regularly cleared from the roof.
This was backed up by at least two people in BBC interviews.
One woman whose father had been at the scene, Sascha Kraus, said there had been little snow on the roof.

Graf Pietro also told the BBC the snow on the roof was not heavy and that those responsible for clearing it had done a good job.
Another theory is that the extreme cold caused steel beams to fail.
There were more than 120 exhibitors from countries across Europe at the Pigeon 2006 fair.
Polish Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz arrived at the scene, pledging a public inquiry into the accident.
Fifteen people died on 2 January when the roof of an ice rink collapsed under heavy snow in the southern German town of Bad Reichenhall.
In December, at least 14 people, 10 of them children, were killed when a roof collapsed at a swimming pool in the Urals region of Russia. Snowfall was again thought a possible cause.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif We are going to keep our hope until the end http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Jaroslaw Wojtasik
Katowice firefighters' spokesman
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: The top of the hall is seen where rescue teams search for victimes on January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event, trapping an estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: The top of the hall is seen where rescue teams search for victimes on January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event, trapping an estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, Poland: Rescuers warm up after the action next to the fire as temperatuer is -15C January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, Poland: Rescuers serch fro victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, Poland: Rescuers serch fro victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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ATOWICE, Poland: Rescuers serch fro victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, Poland: Coal mine rescuers going for the action January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, Poland: Rescue team search for victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. AFP PHOTO JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: Rescue Teams search for victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event, trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: The top of the hall is seen where rescue teams search for victimes on January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event, trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: Rescue Teams search for victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event, trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: Rescue Teams search for victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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KATOWICE, POLAND - JANUARY 29: Rescue Teams search for victims January 29, 2006 in Katowice, Poland. The roof of an exhibition hall collapsed on January 28 during a pigeon racing event trapping a estimated 500 people. According to reports, at least 32 people have been killed and an estimated 141 were injured in the collapse. (Photo by Carsten Koall/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers deploy snifferdogs on the site of the exhibition hall which collapsed under snow 28 January 2006 in Katowice, killing at least 20 people and injuring 100. Another 100 were believed still to be trapped under the hall's corrugated metal roof at 11:45 pm (2245 GMT), and rescuers with sniffer dogs and lifting equipment were working to reach the survivors under the jumble of metal beams and sheets. Voices of the injured could still be heard, and several people trapped inside had used their mobile phones to call rescuers and family. (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: A rescuer stands on the collapsed roof (REAR) of the exhibition hall which yielded under the weight of snow 28 January 2006 in Katowice, killing at least 20 people and injuring 100. Another 100 were believed still to be trapped under the hall's corrugated metal roof at 11:45 pm (2245 GMT), and rescuers with sniffer dogs and lifting equipment were working to reach the survivors under the jumble of metal beams and sheets. Voices of the injured could still be heard, and several people trapped inside had used their mobile phones to call rescuers and family. (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers and soldiers work under projectors on the site of the snow-laden exhibition hall which collapsed 28 January 2006 in Katowice, killing at least 20 people and injuring 100. Another 100 were believed still to be trapped under the hall's corrugated metal roof at 11:45 pm (2245 GMT), and rescuers with sniffer dogs and lifting equipment were working to reach the survivors under the jumble of metal beams and sheets. Voices of the injured could still be heard, and several people trapped inside had used their mobile phones to call rescuers and family. (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers evacuate a victim on the site of the snow-laden exhibition hall which collapsed 28 January 2006 in Katowice, killing at least 20 people and injuring 100. Another 100 were believed still to be trapped under the hall's corrugated metal roof at 11:45 pm (2245 GMT), and rescuers with sniffer dogs and lifting equipment were working to reach the survivors under the jumble of metal beams and sheets. Voices of the injured could still be heard, and several people trapped inside had used their mobile phones to call rescuers and family. (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers and soldiers work under projectors on the site of the snow-laden exhibition hall which collapsed 28 January 2006 in Katowice, killing at least 20 people and injuring 100. Another 100 were believed still to be trapped under the hall's corrugated metal roof at 11:45 pm (2245 GMT), and rescuers with sniffer dogs and lifting equipment were working to reach the survivors under the jumble of metal beams and sheets. Voices of the injured could still be heard, and several people trapped inside had used their mobile phones to call rescuers and family. (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers evacuate a man after a snow-laden roof of an exposition hall collapsed with scores of people inside near the southern Polish city of Katowice, 28 January 2006. At least 12 people died, a spokesman for the regional administration said. AFP PHOTO Tomasz Griessgraber POLAND OUT (Photo credit should read Tomasz Griessgraber/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers evacuate an injured man after a snow-laden roof of an exposition hall collapsed with scores of people inside near the southern Polish city of Katowice, 28 January 2006. At least 12 people died, a spokesman for the regional administration said. AFP PHOTO Irek Dorozanski POLAND OUT (Photo credit should read Irek Dorozanski/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers evacuate an injured man after a snow-laden roof of an exposition hall collapsed with scores of people inside near the southern Polish city of Katowice, 28 January 2006. At least 12 people died, a spokesman for the regional administration said. AFP PHOTO Irek Dorozanski POLAND OUT (Photo credit should read Irek Dorozanski/AFP/***** Images)
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Katowice, POLAND: Rescuers assist a man trapped under the wreckage of a building after a snow-laden roof of an exposition hall collapsed with scores of people inside near the southern Polish city of Katowice, 28 January 2006. At least 12 people died, a spokesman for the regional administration said. AFP PHOTO Irek Dorozanski POLAND OUT (Photo credit should read Irek Dorozanski/AFP/***** Images)

RIP to all the victims...

Zielony
01-29-2006, 04:42 AM
RIP.... like this case in germany

Smok
01-29-2006, 05:33 AM
There were few similiar but smaller accidents before (fortunatelly no killed). But people are still too stupid to remove snow from the roofs. I think that organisators of ehhibition should be locked in prison because they didn't remove snow. There were about 120 tonnes of snow on the roof!

Zielony
01-29-2006, 05:47 AM
i think that Police shuold knock to the building owner doors and leave the organisators..... that was totaly beyond their competences, they probably just rent this building..

signatory
01-29-2006, 05:56 AM
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omfg :( The owners of the building should burn

Weasel
01-29-2006, 05:58 AM
There were few similiar but smaller accidents before (fortunatelly no killed). But people are still too stupid to remove snow from the roofs. I think that organisators of ehhibition should be locked in prison because they didn't remove snow. There were about 120 tonnes of snow on the roof!
In the german case the reason was not too much snow but a lack of maintenance for the building. The roof was old and fragile.

Pan_Grzegorz
01-29-2006, 06:11 AM
___rip___ :(

Kicius
01-29-2006, 07:06 AM
:-(

65 indentified victims so far. One of them still remains in place, because it's impossible to take her out.
Rescuers said that there is no chance to find any living people, and there could be few dozens victims more under the rubble.
The last survivor was found about 5 hours after the collapse, and the first phase of rescue operation has ended today morning. Now the rescuers will use heavy equipment - and whole operation can last about a month.

Somebody really f..d things up in this case.

RIP to the victims

F. De Saxe
01-29-2006, 07:21 AM
RIP :(
This hall few years ago:
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...and few hours ago:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5650/sgefcy22280106232319photo00pho.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here is most powerful pic I've seen. Priest prayin' over the bodies :(
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szr
01-29-2006, 07:51 AM
Rest In Peace to those, gone. Hopefully they're still finding and rescuing living injured and non-injured. How many hours ago did this happen?

Edit: Nevermind. I've got it.

"A central section of the roof collapsed at 1730 local time (1630GMT)." 11:30AM EST Saturday--about 21.5 hours ago.

Herrmannek
01-29-2006, 07:53 AM
20hours ago

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01-29-2006, 08:27 AM
is it me or do some of them wear ballistic helmets?

Kicius
01-29-2006, 08:33 AM
Yes, they really wear. There were some Military Police providing support for rescue workers.

(those guys in camo and "green glowing" jackets) ;-)

Seba23
01-29-2006, 09:04 AM
Photos from gazeta.pl

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http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/1/3135/z3135841G.jpg


RIP :(

1 Policeman died in action

SHAM
01-29-2006, 09:27 AM
Some video from Sky

http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-poland_p5105,00.html

Herrmannek
01-29-2006, 09:39 AM
http://fakty.interia.pl/gal/galeria?galId=6121&photoId=223274&nxt=1

kilroy1911
01-29-2006, 09:53 AM
Seem that all the tragedies are now concentrated in Eastern Europe. Last week our transport plane crashed killing 42 KFOR peacekeepers returning back to Slovakia and now this tragedy in Poland! RIP and I hope that all the injured will be OK soon... We pray for the families of victims...

Pan_Grzegorz
01-29-2006, 11:34 AM
Seem that all the tragedies are now concentrated in Eastern Europe. Last week our transport plane crashed killing 42 KFOR peacekeepers returning back to Slovakia and now this tragedy in Poland! RIP and I hope that all the injured will be OK soon... We pray for the families of victims...

Are you from Slovakia ? I heard that there were over 100 Slovaks, but fortunately they decided to leave earlier, 2-3 houers before that happened.

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
01-29-2006, 11:38 AM
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Chorzow, POLAND: A pigeon flies over an exhibition hall the day after its roof collapsed leaving at least 66 people dead, 29 January 2006, in Chorzow. Rescue teams abandoned their search for survivors from the wreckage of the exhibition hall at midday on Sunday and prepared to clear the debris of the collapsed roof with heavy machinery, a rescue official said. The center of the roof caved in at about 5:15 p.m. (1615 GMT) Saturday, apparently under heavy snow, as people attended a pigeon fanciers' exhibition in the 10,000-square-metre hall. AFP PHOTO/JANEK SKARZYNSKI (Photo credit should read JANEK SKARZYNSKI/AFP/***** Images)
The rescue operation is now over- tommorow heavy equipment will step in and begin demolishing the remnants of the hall. Final toll is 66 people dead, over 140 injured.
The only good thing is that the operation looked relatively good organised- members of the different services (police, medical rescue, fire service, mine rescue, army etc.) managed to cooperate effectively despite the hard conditions (at the peak of the operation, yesterday evening, there were more than 1300 rescuers working on the site).
We can only hope that similar accidents won't happen in the future...

Kingswat
01-29-2006, 11:54 AM
what amazes me, is anything else that happens around the world, ie someone takes a **** thats been constipated for a week, gets reported by CNN, FOX, and all the other news stations in north america, yet there is nothing on the news about this.

Smok
01-29-2006, 01:34 PM
is it me or do some of them wear ballistic helmets?

No. There are teams from different organisations ie mine rescuers, mountain recuers, fire brigades etc. so they have different and specialistic equipment. But they don't use military helmets.

SEAHAWK
01-29-2006, 01:36 PM
RIP...

I have a Polish friend from Mielec. I hope there is no dead anymore...:(

Herrmannek
01-29-2006, 01:38 PM
No. There are teams from different organisations ie mine rescuers, mountain recuers, fire brigades etc. so they have different and specialistic equipment. But they don't use military helmets.
Look closely...

Brzeczyszczykiewicz
01-29-2006, 01:52 PM
No. There are teams from different organisations ie mine rescuers, mountain recuers, fire brigades etc. so they have different and specialistic equipment. But they don't use military helmets.
Yes, they do :). Look at these pictures:

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That's because the army units were involved in the rescue operation since it's beginning. Most of the soldiers involved (ca. 200) were military policemen from the Gliwice Special MP battalion (OSZW Gliwice), there were also smaller groups (ca. 70) from other units: 6th aabn, 10th Logistic Bde, engineers from the 22nd Teritorial Defense Bde. Also, some units stationed nearby (1st Engineering Bde, 18th aabn) were put on standby.

signatory
01-29-2006, 02:11 PM
what amazes me, is anything else that happens around the world, ie someone takes a **** thats been constipated for a week, gets reported by CNN, FOX, and all the other news stations in north america, yet there is nothing on the news about this.

Same with Beslan massacre and Kosovo riots 2004... is there a white girl missing somewhere perhaps?




R.I.P

Smok
01-29-2006, 03:36 PM
Yes, they do :). Look at these pictures:

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http://cache.*****images.com/xc/56694962.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=AAAB1D3D22B8F28C81853A64419E02FB

That's because the army units were involved in the rescue operation since it's beginning. Most of the soldiers involved (ca. 200) were military policemen from the Gliwice Special MP battalion (OSZW Gliwice), there were also smaller groups (ca. 70) from other units: 6th aabn, 10th Logistic Bde, engineers from the 22nd Teritorial Defense Bde. Also, some units stationed nearby (1st Engineering Bde, 18th aabn) were put on standby.

Ow! Really :) I haven't noticed. I didn't know that army was sent to help.
To be honest our goverment is making great job. Very good cooperation, no chaos... Good job :)

kilroy1911
01-29-2006, 04:05 PM
Are you from Slovakia ? I heard that there were over 100 Slovaks, but fortunately they decided to leave earlier, 2-3 houers before that happened.

yes, i am from Slovakia. We have aprox 100+ soldiers serving in Kosovo in joint Czecho-slovak unit. In that An-24 plane were 43 peacekeepers, 42 died, ONE survived wth minor scratches. He even called his wife with a cellphone from the crashsite and actually she called the emergency services... His survival was some kind of a miracle.

There were 2 planes flying back home - One was carrying equipment and one troops. Only the plane with equipment made it back safely, they even seen a massive fireball on the ground... Only these 43 soldiers were scheduled to return - not the whole slovak KFOR contingent.


For more info search militaryphotos for topic with keywords czech, hungary, plane, crashed...

Drako
01-29-2006, 04:38 PM
I think he meant that there were Slovaks in the hall yesterday but they left 2-3 hours before the roof fell in.

Herrmannek
01-29-2006, 04:41 PM
I understood that like kirloy did, but now it have a little more sens though

nick_ua
01-29-2006, 06:05 PM
sad.
same what happened on russia several years ago when the roof collapse on a swiming pool.
rip

kilroy1911
01-30-2006, 03:11 AM
I think he meant that there were Slovaks in the hall yesterday but they left 2-3 hours before the roof fell in.

Oh yeah.. that was an misunderstanding from my side.. sorry

Yes, there were some Slovaks in the hall - 2 of them died. You are probably right about 100 slovak visitors... dont know exact numbers... but even one life lost in such a tragedy is more then enough...

Baltic
01-30-2006, 04:53 AM
Damn, stupid tragedy. RIP :-(