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BoyElroy
01-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Sunday Times (London)

January 29, 2006, Sunday

HEADLINE: North Korea's plutonium pile attracts Iran

BYLINE: Michael Sheridan, Beijing

THE drab compound that houses the Iranian embassy in Pyongyang is the focus of intense scrutiny by diplomats and intelligence services who believe that North Korea is negotiating to sell the Iranians plutonium from its newly enlarged stockpile -a sale that would hand Tehran a rapid route to the atomic bomb.

It would confound the international campaign to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions by restricting its ability to make bombs through the alternative method of enriching uranium.

The risk is viewed with such gravity in Washington that the United States has launched a concerted diplomatic and covert effort to prevent it, according to diplomats based in Pyongyang and Beijing.

The belief that Iran and North Korea are talking about plutonium stems from a recently reported offer of oil and gas from Tehran in exchange for nuclear technology.

The discovery by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in 2004 that North Korea had sold an estimated 1.7 tons of uranium to Libya established a precedent for the sale and showed how hard it is to stop, diplomats say.

The Americans were aghast to learn last year that while engaging in disarmament talks, North Korea had made enough plutonium to amass a stockpile of about 43 kilograms, perhaps as much as 53kg. For the first time since the nuclear crisis began in 1994 it has sufficient fissile material to sell some to its ally while retaining enough for its own purposes.

Plutonium is the element used to fuel the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki in 1945.

Between 7kg and 9kg are needed for a weapon. According to Siegfried Hecker, the eminent American nuclear scientist, officials in North Korea intend to restart a reactor that will produce 60kg a year.

Iran already has a nuclear programme devoted to plutonium research, according to John Bolton, US ambassador to the United Nations. In a 2004 speech Bolton said the Iranians were building a research reactor "optimal for the production of weapons-grade plutonium".

Making a plutonium bomb can be more complicated than making a uranium bomb, but Iran and North Korea work well together on military science. The Americans believe Iran is sharing data on missile tests with North Korea in exchange for nuclear technology.

The US State Department revealed last summer that 11 shipments of nuclear materials bound for North Korea and Iran had been intercepted under the proliferation security initiative, in which 60 nations including Britain co-operate in air and sea searches. It refused to disclose any details.

Alarm bells sounded again in Washington late last autumn after nuclear disarmament talks in China ground to an inconclusive and ill-tempered halt. Christopher Hill, the American negotiator, came out of a meeting to tell colleagues that "those f***ers say they're going to go right ahead and build nuclear weapons no matter what we do", according to an official who overheard the remark.

In November western intelligence sources told Der Spiegel, the German news magazine, of a clandestine visit to Pyongyang by an unnamed high-ranking Iranian official who offered North Korea a huge amount of oil and natural gas in exchange for help on nuclear research and missiles.

Sources in Tehran say Iran's Revolutionary Guards recently established their own institutional links with North Korea, bypassing traditional policy channels.

"Whatever they're up to, it's probably done through the Revolutionary Guards," commented a western diplomat.

Last week the Americans were pushing their campaign to strangle North Korea's illicit fundraising through currency and cigarette counterfeiting, drug smuggling -including one speciality, fake Viagra -and weapons sales.

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, is due to meet foreign ministers from Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China in London tomorrow to discuss their differences on how to stop Iran going nuclear. Rice hopes that a meeting of the IAEA on Thursday will resolve to refer Iran to the UN security council as a prelude to sanctions.

The United States is also mounting a diplomatic offensive to get the message across, through China and South Korea, that a transfer of plutonium would cross a political red line.

One wild card remains the ability of Kim Jong-il, the North Korean leader, to take a gamble like Colonel Muammar Gadaffi of Libya, who abandoned his nuclear programme in exchange for international acceptance.

Back in Pyongyang, diplomats are left guessing as people enter and leave the Iranian embassy. One fact, however, is known. Jalaleddin Namini Mianji, Iran's ambassador who was appointed by the previous "reformist" government, is being recalled. His successor's credentials are certain to reflect the hard line of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who threatened to wipe Israel off the map.

LOAD-DATE: January 29, 2006

Apathy
01-29-2006, 06:38 PM
How long until the sh*t hits the fan?

Nizark
01-29-2006, 07:57 PM
^^^^ anyone a year ago, brother

caridon
01-29-2006, 08:03 PM
How long until the sh*t hits the fan?

- 3 years.

It hit the fan when Bush et al invaded iraq. It has been downhill from there.

/C

Turbo
01-29-2006, 08:33 PM
http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/n/news20051005_kimjong/20050920TOK02.jpg

"I'll do you special Buy 1 Get 1 Free" or is it just me think's he looks like a used car dealer?

Just one look at that ****er through my M-68 thats all i need

Eddy
01-29-2006, 08:37 PM
I heard that Kim Jong Il is a good shooter

Kilgor
01-29-2006, 09:00 PM
- 3 years.

It hit the fan when Bush et al invaded iraq. It has been downhill from there.

/C

The problem with this is not invading iraq, but having nothing left in the bag to screw over iran.

Kingswat
01-29-2006, 10:02 PM
interesting article.

annihilation
01-29-2006, 10:23 PM
The problem with this is not invading iraq, but having nothing left in the bag to screw over iran.

Much of the problem is Iraq and our invasion of it.

remo williams
01-30-2006, 01:01 AM
I heard that Kim Jong Il is a good shooter yes i found a short vid clip w/ an interview by one of his ex specialforces .he has a very unorthodox shooting style,but is a pretty accurate shot by accounts...i'll try to find the link and post it.as far as the plutonium thing, well it was onlty a metter of time before the ënemy of my enemy is my friend "frame of thinking kicks in.Not surprised at all by this.

ROKAman
01-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Kim's ex-bodyguard interview clip? you can look it up at http://www.spikedhumor.com/

shocker1
01-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Much of the problem is Iraq and our invasion of it.
At least we have those idiots in Iran surrounded.

remo williams
01-30-2006, 01:18 AM
i found it at mediaputfile.com search nk bodyguards at least it was under that 2mos ago..not there now..hmm

Uninen
01-30-2006, 01:28 AM
Omg Omg!!! Its Delta 1234567890!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kraf001
01-30-2006, 01:48 AM
the article is full of speculations!! there are cheaper regional outlet for plutonium... they sold them technology and there is nothing stopping them from selling them the plutonium!

caridon
01-30-2006, 06:49 AM
The problem with this is not invading iraq, but having nothing left in the bag to screw over iran.

I dont agree. if you pretend to be a rational paranoid then you can look at the 2 cases.

NK: dictatorship, has nukes..... not invaded.
Iraq dictatorship no nukes...... invaded.


The logical conclusion is, get nukes and you wont get invaded.

(this thought experiment is not intended to be a point of wiew only a interesting thoughtexperiment)

/C

Zvucni Efekti
01-30-2006, 07:39 AM
Pakistan: Got nukes...not invaded.
India: Got nukes...not invaded.

No nuclear armed nation has ever been directly attacked by another sovereign nation. The Soviet Union never attacked NATO, America never attacked France (rofl ), etc.

annihilation
01-30-2006, 09:51 AM
Pakistan: Got nukes...not invaded.
India: Got nukes...not invaded.

No nuclear armed nation has ever been directly attacked by another sovereign nation. The Soviet Union never attacked NATO, America never attacked France (rofl ), etc.

So if everyone gets nukes then we will finally acheive world peace?? If thats all it took.